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By MELISSA LEE / Lincoln Journal Star

Monday, Jan 21, 2008 - 12:28:21 am CST

Debra Rhoades was standing in line at the grocery store when she heard the news.

Eight murdered at a mall in Omaha. The gunman, a troubled teen, also was dead.

The woman behind Rhoades couldn’t hide the venom in her voice.

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Charles Starkweather's mother, Helen. (Journal Star archives)

“He’s just another Charles Starkweather.”

Rhoades didn’t say anything.

Didn’t even turn around.

Inside, she was sinking.

It was another slap in the face for those who have carried the Starkweather name in Lincoln, who still pay the penalty 50 years after Nebraska’s deadliest murder spree, Rhoades says.

No one has ever asked Rhoades what it’s like to bear the sin of an uncle put to death in the electric chair nearly a decade before she was born.

She wants you to know: You can’t even imagine.

“My whole life is knowing my uncle did this,” she says from her northwest Lincoln trailer, cigarette in one hand, Kleenex in the other. “It keeps getting brought up. It’s in my face, and there’s nothing I can do.”

A half-century hasn’t erased our memories of the Starkweather murders, which some say stole the city’s innocence.

Nor has it healed the wounds he inflicted on those connected to him, who scattered as far as Pomeroy, Wash., where a Starkweather brother lives, and Lansing, Mich., last known home of Starkweather’s onetime sweetheart Caril Ann Fugate, whose role in the murders is still being debated.

Those wounds felt fresher still when nine people died last month at a Von Maur store in Omaha.

Rhoades — once Debra Starkweather, daughter of Charles Starkweather’s older brother Rodney — remembers thinking immediately of the Von Maur shooter’s family.

I know how you feel, she thought. It’s with you forever now.

A killer’s family, says Rhoades, 41, are forgotten victims.

“People don’t realize what it does,” she says. “It’s always going to hurt.”

Rhoades learned early not to let too many people get close. At school, girls bullied her, calling her “killer.”

Her brothers had to be escorted through the hallways by police officers, she says.

A boy once teased one of her brothers: “Hey, Starkweather, who’s gonna be your next victim?”

Her brother whipped around. “Shut up, or it’ll be you.”

Rhoades dropped out at 16.

But the nightmare followed her.

She believes she has been turned down for jobs and apartments because of her last name.

When people hear it — Starkweather — or see it on a check or a driver’s license, she says, they give her the look first, and then the questions come.

Wow … are you related? How does it feel?

How could she ever answer? It feels like not trusting anyone, like being stereotyped by an entire state. It feels like getting a hug from your grandfather in a Kmart deli and hearing a stranger ask him: “Don’t you know you’re hugging a Starkweather?”

It feels like wheeling your newborn through the grocery store and having a woman you’ve never met tell you it took some gall to give your son your last name.

Rhoades weeps at the memory, 20 years old.

She didn’t then. She turned away fast and took her baby to the car.

That was one lesson she learned long ago.

Never let them see you cry.

Miles away is another woman burdened by the killings. She maintains she is a victim. Others call her a killer.

Caril Ann Fugate was 14 when she accompanied Starkweather during those deadly days.

Among the murdered were her mother, Velda Bartlett; stepfather, Marion Bartlett; and 2-year-old half-sister, Betty Jean Bartlett, whose bodies were found behind their home on Belmont Avenue.

Fugate has said she did not know her family was dead and that she went along with Starkweather to protect them.

A jury didn’t believe her. Fugate was found guilty of first-degree murder for her role in the robbery-murder of 17-year-old Robert Jensen of Bennet.

Originally sentenced to life in prison, Fugate served 18 years before authorities commuted her sentence to 30 to 50 years. Paroled in 1976, she went to live with a young Michigan couple who had befriended her in jail after seeing a TV special about her.

Fugate always had dreamed of becoming a nurse and was a medical technician in a hospital for nearly 20 years before recently retiring, according to her friend Linda Maria Battisti, a Cleveland lawyer who is co-writing a book she says will prove Fugate’s innocence.

Denied a full pardon in 1996, Fugate, 64, now lives a quiet, private life.

She’s newly married, Battisti says, and enjoying retirement with her husband.

“My feeling is that people in Lincoln don’t want to accept that she may be innocent,” says Battisti, whose partner in the writing of the book, “The 12th Victim,” is Lincoln attorney John Stevens Berry.

“There was so much hostility against her. To the people of Lincoln, Caril was poor, she was considered a no-count: ‘You’re on the wrong side of the tracks. You went with this piece of trash, so you must be just like him.’

“People don’t want to admit that we may have made a terrible mistake,” Battisti says.

A. James McArthur, whose father was Fugate’s defense attorney during her trial, remembers Fugate as “very frank and very open.”

“My father was a very good judge of character,” McArthur says. “My father could spot a phony a mile off.”

Fugate’s lower-class background — her family didn’t have indoor plumbing, for example — and an aggressive police campaign to show her guilt that included rumors and lies contributed to a prejudiced public, McArthur says.

A guilty verdict, his father feared, was inevitable.

Even so, McArthur believes Fugate’s choices since 1976 show parole was the right decision.

“So much as I know, she’s never gotten so much as a parking ticket.”

Others say Fugate deserved the same fate as Starkweather.

Starkweather’s father, Guy, often said Fugate should have been “sitting on Charlie’s lap” when he was executed in 1959. And the Starkweather family continues to believe Fugate was a willing participant in the murders.

Barbara Thompson, Rhoades’ mother and former wife of Rodney Starkweather, says Charles Starkweather told her during a prison visit that Fugate had committed at least one of the killings, an assertion Starkweather also had made to police.

The Starkweather family also believes Fugate had ample opportunity to flee during the killing spree but chose not to.

The family has had no contact with Fugate. They don’t wish to.

She must live with what she did, the Starkweathers say.

“There’s only three people who know what happened,” Rhoades says. There’s God in heaven. There’s Charlie, buried underground.

“And there’s Caril.”

Del Harding, the Lincoln Star reporter who covered the murders and the trials, is convinced of Fugate’s guilt, a belief he bases partially on hundreds of conversations with law officials that led to information that didn’t always reach the public.

Authorities never once spread rumors that misled the public, says Harding, who now lives near Fort Collins, Colo.

Fugate’s demeanor during the case also shocked Harding. He remembers her acting far older than her 14 years.

“I covered a lot of murder trials, and I’ve never seen anybody with a look in their eyes like Caril,” he says. “She looked daggers. … She was just cold, emotionless, never smiling. There was never a flicker of warmth that I saw.”

Fugate always has maintained her innocence.

Her last public statements came on Aug. 8 and 9 in 1996, when Fugate was a surprise guest on Berry’s local radio program after her request for a pardon was denied.

Fugate took calls from listeners — many of them sympathetic to her — for hours, saying repeatedly that she had tried to break up with Starkweather before the murder spree and that she had been a hostage, scared to run because she thought he would kill her or her family.

Fugate broke down in tears at one point, thanking callers for their support.

“Don’t you think that I, every day of my life, that I think to myself, ‘Why, dear God, didn’t he just kill me and be done with it?’” she said, according to a transcript of the interview Berry provided to the Journal Star.

“He couldn’t stand the fact that I did not want to date him anymore. I did not want to date him anymore.”

Callers included Fugate’s sister, a niece and old acquaintances who said they always had believed in her innocence.

Crying, Fugate said: “You have to realize this is the first time that anyone has ever came forward on my behalf.”

She had received support before, at least privately, evidenced by stacks of letters and cards mailed to her when she first was jailed.

The letters were provided to the Journal Star by a Lincoln man who found them at the bottom of a box he bought at a tag sale at the former home of then-Lancaster County Sheriff Merle Karnopp and his wife, Gertrude. The man requested his name not be used.

Most of the letters contain prayers, well wishes and Christian literature as writers urge Fugate to turn to God for forgiveness.

A few say prayers won’t help: One letter begins, “Hiya, you dirty scum!”

One teen named Vicki asks to be Fugate’s friend, chatting about football games and the pep club. A family sent cards on Easter and Valentine’s Day and signed them “In Christian love.” A woman asks for Fugate’s birthday and dress size and promises to mail a Bible. She says she doesn’t know Caril but loves her, and, like many writers, she requests a return letter.

It’s unclear whether Fugate did write back or whether she read the letters at all.

Today, Fugate prefers to avoid public attention, says Battisti, who recently hosted a belated New Year’s celebration for Fugate and her new husband.

Battisti says her book will allow readers to meet “the real Caril” for the first time.

“I think she’s an incredible woman. I’m humbled in her presence,” Battisti says. “She’s a very strong person. Caril probably deep down cannot forgive herself for going along with Chuck.

“She’s a soldier.”

On one of her first visits to Fugate’s home in Michigan, Battisti met Fugate’s small yellow bird, Moses, which was flying freely throughout the house.

To be polite, Battisti kept quiet about her fear of birds, even when Moses crawled up her leg.

Only when the women became close did Battisti confess that fear.

Fugate’s reply: “Nothing will live in a cage in this house.”

Fugate has perhaps one thing in common with the women who carried Starkweather’s name: They believe it’s time to let the memories die.

Thompson, 68, whom Starkweather once affectionately called “Sis,” says there’s no value in stirring up old emotions.

“Why should we live with what he’s done?” Thompson says. “Why should I wake up and feel like I have no business being here?”

Perhaps if people could see her now, she says through tears, they’d finally drop their curiosity.

“You try to be a better person. You try to be rubber,” she says. “You take your troubles to God, and you try not to let people know it bothers you.

“But it does. It always does.”

Reach Melissa Lee at 473-2682 or mlee@journalstar.com.


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1reader wrote on January 21, 2008 1:23 am:
" I have read these stories over the past few days. I personally was in prison with a Starkweather in 1987. I don't remember his name. I know even in prison his name carried a little extra 'awe' from fellow inmates. I wonder how that man is doing now? I know for myself, it hasn't been easy to turn things around. Not because of my name but because I have a record. I have gotten use to being turned down for good jobs and living only where they don't check references. "

Lincolnite: wrote on January 21, 2008 5:44 am:
" Caril was 14.
My daughter is almost 14 and a totally rebellious one at that. One thing I know is that her rebellion could go much further - but it doesn't. At this age they know what they can get away with and what will cause everything important to come to a screeching halt. At 14 your brain isn't developed fully but your survival instinct is intact.
Perhaps it was the case that Caril's yet to be developed brain was in survival mode and fearing a much older Charlie such that she wasn't capable of challenging him by running away or doing anything contrary to his wishes.
For God's sake, a 14 year old doesn't even have legal consent! There's a reason for that. If she had run from him and gotten caught by him, what would have happened? She was 14! HE had the whole city of Lincoln toting guns! We expect a 14 year old to stand up, unarmed to a nut case?
Her anger in custody? She lost her whole family for Pete's sake, and was being prosecuted. Did we expect her to serve coffee and smile about the delicious smell of her jail's laundry detergent? "

friend wrote on January 21, 2008 7:07 am:
" Debra Rhoades, I am the same age as you, born and raised in Lincoln,you should know not all people judge you for being related to Charlie, you are an innocent bystandard. I think people must feel better about themselves when they are hurting someone else,so next time your in line at grocery store or anywhere just remember theres someone who wants to be a friend standing next to you also. "

Dave the Doorman wrote on January 21, 2008 7:13 am:
" My family was touched by Starkweather, I am a cousin of the King family. I also know Debra, having worked with her years ago in a local bar. We discovered this common link between us, and I have never faulted her or her or her family for what Charlie did. It has been a few years since I have seen her, but I still consider her a friend and a very decent person.

I can only imagine the pain that she felt through life bearing a name like that of a scarlet letter, and my heart goes out to her.

I thank the LJS for publishing this series. It is in fact history, a dark history of Nebraska that cannot be forgotten.

Oddly enough, in a gathering that I was at Sunday, that included approximately 50 people, I asked how many knew the name Starkweather. I was immediately floored that only four people knew the name and the history. Time may fade, and memories may fade, but history never fades.

Be strong as you have Deb, life dealt you some crappy cards, but I know you have done good things with your life my friend. "

Phil Wharton wrote on January 21, 2008 7:36 am:
" Why does the paper make something like the Starkweather murders such important news. Quit making him out to be someone special and report some refreshing and good news. Everyone involved with this situation, probably wants to get on with their lives. Yes, it was horrific what happened, but there is alot of news that can bring out the best in folks. Please do some research and wirte about the good things that people of Lincoln achieve. We are all tired of the negative publicity that Lincoln recieves. Why not take a poll and see what the citizens of Lincoln want to read about. Good, inspirational news or bad, hurtful and sorrowing news. "

kathy gragg wrote on January 21, 2008 8:11 am:
" I feel for those who bear the starkwether name. I saw throughout my life unwarranted & vicious attacks on people simply because of thier last name. "

b s wrote on January 21, 2008 8:52 am:
" Debbie, Barbara, Eric, and the rest of the young kids of Barbara's are good kids, they grew up having a hard life. When I first met the kids, I didn't know if I wanted to be around them. But after i got to know the kids personally, they are okay people to be around. I had fun partying with some of them and socializing with others. I See Barbara every week and She is still kind and loving as she has been all of these years. I have never asked them about Charles, maybe because they have been asked enough questions about him. Or I had read enough about him in the paper. But I never held what there uncle did against them. Charles Starkweather committed all of those murders with Carol Fugate. Not the ansesters of Charles Starkweather. This family has suffered enough and the people who hold it against this family should put themselves in there place for a minute. Would you want to be blamed for what a relative did years ago. Would you want to go through what this family has went through all of these years for one week. Everyone should be ashamed of themselves for blaming these kids and everyone in there family. They didn't do it. Charles and Carol did the killings, and Charles is dead for it, and Carol was put in prison for it. Now let it rest. The rest of the Starkweather family, are good people. Let them leave in peace without being condemmed for what has happened in the past. God bless you "

HPG wrote on January 21, 2008 10:45 am:
" The bible says the each man shall stand before God and give an account for his life. Unfortunately, here on earth we must give account for all to whom we are related.
"

An Old Friend wrote on January 21, 2008 11:00 am:
" I went to elementary and junior high school with Debra and I remember some of the stuff she went through. I also grew up only a few blocks from her and I clearly remember some of the hard times her family had. I am saddened when I think about it, and this story makes me sadder knowing that people still can't let it go. "

confused wrote on January 21, 2008 11:18 am:
" It doesn't matter to me what your name is or what your relatives did; you should be judged on who and what you are and the way you conduct yourself presently. I also know that there are small minded people who will use anything they can to irritate and torment another, possibly to make themselves appear more important, who knows. Those type of peoples opinions are never relevent anyway.
I guess I am confused as to why the women in the article are still being tormented by these type of people? Neither carry the Starkweather name presently, so unless it is someone from their past, how would current friends or acquaintances know their previous name? And if it was such a disquieting part of their life, could they not have amended or changed it?
Just curious....its been 50 years, the people who still dwell on it might need to think of moving on.
"

grateful wrote on January 21, 2008 11:39 am:
" Many years ago, I dated a guy who was neighbors with Eric Starkweather. One night, this guy I was dating becamse physically abusive, to the point that a truly feared for my life and honestly believe that I would not be here had someone not stepped in. Now, Eric is not a big guy at all, and the guy I was dating was a very tall, muscular guy. If I were Eric, that would have been pretty intimidating to me, but that did not stop Eric from intervening when he was desparately needed most. As far as I am concerned, he saved my life that night. He may not know how important what he did was, or even that I still remember his name, but it was and I do. I just wanted to share a positive story about someone with the last name of Starkweather. I too feel badly that this family has had to carry the burden of this name and deal with how people feel about it. My advice...judge others not by their name, but who they prove themselves to be. You can't pick your relatives. "

Deb Bienka wrote on January 21, 2008 1:16 pm:
" Tell me has Caril once thought was this has done to the family members that were killed, or how their lives turned out because of it? My stepdad's sister was killed by Charles and Caril, i saw the hell he went through even as an older man and what it did to his mother. And is Caril going to make money off the book that is being written now?....because if so she dont deserve a penny, not a cent, if anything it should go to the victums fund in Lincoln. "

Mary wrote on January 21, 2008 2:36 pm:
" Anyone who believes Caril Fugate is innocent is deluded. I believe she knew exactly what was going on and took part in it. She should have done life in prison. She should feel lucky to be out. It is a LOT more than she deserves. "

We tend to judge... wrote on January 21, 2008 2:52 pm:
" After reading this article it makes me mad that people still have to judge the living relatives of Charlie Starkwether. These people have been through enough in the past 50 years. To the family I am sorry you have been riticuled and judged through out the years. "

M wrote on January 21, 2008 2:57 pm:
" I think it is important to run stories like this so we can have a view into the hurt that people can cause each other. I am not talking about Charlie here but what his relatives went through. I cried when I read that Debra was made to feel shame about the name she had given her child. How awful! How can someone say that to a woman who wasn't even born when this all happened? Must we punish her and her children because of a name? Like the previous poster, friend, I also would stand beside Debra to sheild her from the hurtful words of others. "

Ramone wrote on January 21, 2008 3:04 pm:
" The world is not always great and superb and we sometimes need to be reminded of the darkness to appreciate the light. It's not always good news on the front page and doesn't need to be. Spare us your preachy attitude and maybe say 'thank you' to LJS for doing something different and insightful instead of Day 146 of the latest celebrity meltdown. "

north bottoms rooshin wrote on January 21, 2008 4:35 pm:
" My mother went to several grades with Caril,lived across the street for a short time from Charlie, and Charlie was her garbageman. My dads family was best friends with Sherriff Karnopp and his family, and I am named for and the godson of Merle Karnopps son. Sooooo, I have spent a lifetime hearing the stories of Charlie and Caril.And, the bio aside, it seems that good old Lincoln Nebraska has to its infamy of being the home of the first U.S. serial killer.I recall Merle and Gertrude Karnopp telling me stories about it all, and numerous things that never made the media. The movie about the events that came out in the 90's I think, was pure Hollywood, and seemingly glorified Charlie. It made my mother nearly laugh out loud, and she then regaled me with even more stories about it all. I understand the significance of the 50 year anniversary, but please don't glorify these horrific acts, committed by BOTH of them. "

Bob wrote on January 21, 2008 7:48 pm:
" In this day and age, you would hope that people would not hold this against the surviving family members. Also, Caril could be innocent, but her case is not helped by her claim that she did not know her family was dead. I believe the estimate was they had been dead for up to 10 days when discoverd. So, where did Caril think they were for 10 days. Vacationing in a warmer climate? I grew up not far from 9th & Belmont in the 50s, and we didn't have anywhere to go (or the money) for 10 days in the dead of winter. "

~Dragonfly~ wrote on January 21, 2008 9:40 pm:
" I came on the the LJS site for another reason and seen yet another article about Charles and Caril. So as usual I read it and then read what other readers had posted. I am pleased to see that there are no hatred comments posted. I know that the name Starkweather brings up fear in alot of people. It is good to finally good to hear that not everyone thinks that the rest of the family is like that.
I was only 13 when my mother married Eric Starkweather and for the last 21 years I have seen and heard it all. The Starkweather's are just a normal family wanting to live a quite normal life. I know it is a part of Nebraska history, but I think it is time to move on and stop bringing it up every couple years. Mom, Eric, Debbie,Barb and all the rest keep your heads high and don't let anyone make you feel less then you are.
~In Love & Light~ "

MMP wrote on January 21, 2008 11:02 pm:
" These events were 19 years before my time and I am not a Lincoln native, so I was glad to have the opportunity to learn more about this time in our city's history. Thanks LJS for going ahead with the coverage. "

Bob wrote on January 22, 2008 2:11 am:
" What happened with Charlie's parents? "

Jen wrote on January 22, 2008 7:23 am:
" I was born and raised in Indiana, moving here when I was 14. I hadn't heard anything about Charles Starkweather until I took Criminal Justice in high school. I just want the surviving families to know that not everyone in America knows their family history, so try not to let the small-minded here get to you. It's only because they have nothing better to do with their lives except live in the past. The rest of the world has moved on. "

lincolnII wrote on January 22, 2008 3:53 pm:
" Nobody should blame the family. That's ridiculous. "

Debra wrote on January 30, 2008 10:21 pm:
" Thank you for all the nice things that you said, i really appreciate all your support, and thank you to my good friends sticking by my side through the hard times, i appreciate everybody who has stuck up for me and my family, especially those who do not know us. your last name is not what matters, its the person in general.

Thank you alot!
-Debra

- "

Linda in Oregon wrote on February 9, 2008 10:30 pm:
" I believe Caril Fugate helped Starkweather commit those horrendous crimes years ago. A lot of time has passed and she has apparently forgotten all the horrible things she did to those innocent people. She is just lucky the prison system saw fit to release her from jail. From: A Federal Marshals daughter in Oregon "

zen wrote on February 28, 2008 2:06 pm:
" Ms. Rhoades,I regret the unfair treatment that you have had to endure for being related to Charlie.You certainly are entitled to be left alone and not judged as you have been for so many years.It's odd that C.F. was able to leave Nebraska and re-invent herself,and live in virtual obscurity while good people like yourself remained and took the brunt of criticism for the actions of these ill fated lovers some fifty years ago.There is no way that I can relate to your suffering but I sympathize with you and your family wholehertedly.Sincerely,z. "

Victor Williams wrote on April 20, 2008 4:10 pm:
" Please accept my appreciation in sharing the information contained in this story. Perhaps it will help people learn to judge people for who and what they are, not for what relatives did. This article was both informative and revealing. Much thank to the writer. "