" The County roads and Hwy 77 were solid ice right up to Cornhusker Hwy...but Cornhusker, Superior, downtown were all just fine. Hhhmmmm...maybe Lincoln's road crew was on to something with that preemptive brine application before ice can form. Good job guys. "

" ...Although some snow-packed areas were slick, the roads didn’t appear to be icy, Borer said....

what a bunch of crap! i drive about 6.5 miles to work. 90% of those roads are within the city limits and main arterial roadways. nothing but ice and icy slush. oh what wonders that saline solution does!! "

" The roads did not appear to be icy??? I beg to differ - the roads I drove in on were very icy! Traffic was slow and people were sliding all over the place! I guess putting down the saline solution ahead of time didn't help as much as they expected . . . "

" I wonder how many accidents will happen today? It's amazing to me how quickly everyone seems to forget how to drive in ice and snow. Slow down! It's not that difficult! "

" That brine didn't do squat! Every road from my house to work was slick. It continues to amaze me how bad a job this city does at snow removal. Go to any other major city in the snow belt and see for yourselves.What a terrible start to the snow season. "

" At 8am, most of the roads in town were sheets of ice until I got downtown, where they appeared to be merely wet. "

" I have never seen Highway 6 (between Lincoln and Waverly) that slick before and I've been driving 30 years. Horrible. I wish I could have stayed home. "

" Most of the roads I took to work this morning were pure ice also. Some areas were not as bad (think Hwy 2) but they were the MAJOR MAJOR roads.

I was driving a big 4x4 suv and was SHOCKED at how many mini vans were passing me like I was standing still. I would really like to urge people to SLOW DOWN when weather/road conditions are not ideal. Read the paper the day before...watch the news...know in advance that you may need to leave a little early and slow down. "

" Although some snow-packed areas were slick, the roads didn’t appear to be icy, Borer said....

Is this guy blind? "

" All this talk lately of the crap they spray on the streets "before the storm"... what exactly does this stuff do again. Seems to me the entire route from 84th and A to Hwy 2, then Pine Lake to 27th was nothing but ice this morning. Looks like another waste of money on the part of the city (BIG SURPRISE, EH). What happened to the good old days of gravel, traction is better than some stupid white lines on dry pavement. Someone send the head of our street crews up to the Minneapolis area to learn some things about winter road treatment. "

" It is sunny and 82 here in Tucson Today.... Go Big Red

sorry could not resist.. "

" Obviously, Borer wasn't on A Street this morning - which was a sheet of ice. Add to that the traffic from East High (think 16 & 17 year old inexperienced drivers) and the hills and you have the perfect storm. But since the city department wasn't expecting anything more than a dusting - they once again missed the boat. "

" You people mind not tail gateing! Some of us drive manuals and need room behind us, ESCPECIALLY when it is icy on the roads. Just remember when I roll back into you because you didn;t give me enough room to grab road traction, you are the one with the ticket for following too closely. "

" Driving to work on South St. I slid all over the place....ICE! Be careful. "

" Instead of using traffic cameras to catch speeders the city should be using them to check road conditions. If they would watch intersections where their cameras are located, they can tell if the salty solution works. Intersections that don't have the salt solution applied should be more dangerous than intersections where the salt solution was used. It shouldn't be hard to figure out if the solution works or not. "

" nothing but - ice ice baby. Ya, that past 3 weeks of laying down that salt mixture did alot of good. Then when a storm does hit we get "we did not know it was going to happen" "

" 17th Street was a skating rink from South until I hit downtown. I would just like to say, however, that everyone I encountered (including students on their way to Lincoln High) was driving reasonably and not tailgating. So we were all a little late this morning; at least we got there in one piece. "

" I don't think the solution they now use is going a good job. Yes South street between 27th and 14 was horrible "

" be careful, if the care behind you isn't moving, you could be the one cited. Look up "Unsafe Backing". "

" Could it also be that they laid the white line salt stuff TOO early? I dont know how long it's supposed to last, but it seems like they put it down over a week ago. That seems to me like too long of a time for it to wear off before snow actually falls. "

" Apparently the county roads crew didn't have enough to do this morning because they were mowing (yes mowing) the median at Highway 77 and Warlick Blvd. this morning. They had their tractor mowing the median between the lanes of the highway to the south of the intersection on the approach to the overpass. Couldn't this guy have been driving a sand/salt truck and doing some productive. "

" Yes, it was icy this morning. You're in denial if you thought it wasn't. I was listening to 1400 and they Coby Mach called in and said the roads were great! His experience came from a few blocks on two arterials. I had to drive through Lincoln and all the way to Omaha and it was a sheet of ice to the bridge. Naive people shouldn't be allowed to pass along information. But using common sense is most important on days like this; not the misinformed being quoted in the newspapers and heard on the radio. "

" Left home at 7:30 a.m., walked to the bus stop, got to work downtown at 9 a.m.

17th Street between Lake Street and J Street was a sheet of ice the entire way. I was very glad to be IN the bus and not in front, behind or beside the bus . . . "

" During all of the slipin and slidin on the icy roads, I talked with a buddy of mine the entire way to work and was a lot more relaxed and not so uptight. I found that if you just relax more you tend to not be involved in the accidents. Texting has also been a big help! "

" I implore the Journal Star to question the head of the City's road dept and ask him what his dept.'s priorities are during bad winter weather - my neighborhood (40th and Van Dorn) was in a horrible state - I know we're not in the wealthier part of Lincoln but c'mon there's a school near there - and so what if the major roads are clear - if you can't get to them what's the point???? "

" if this salt stuff that the city says was so great, why did they not put it down yesterday/last night when they knew that this little storm was coming 4 days ago? Oh I know the reason, it was not the scheduled day to put it down. Come on be flexable, storms do come on different days of the week. "

" South 56th was icy and dangerous, even with the slow traffic. What a way for Lincoln's Roads Dept. to start our winter season! Our Roads Dept. is a Joke! "

" You all sound like either worry worts or terrible drivers. It wasn't bad at all on any of the roads. Sure... there is ice on the road... BIG DEAL. I recently moved here from Dillon, CO. This is nothing... just rain coming down and the ground temp being cold enough for it to freeze on contact. It sounds like alot of you have no clue on what ice, snow or bad conditions really are. Try changing your tires from the "slicks" you've been driving on for 3 years. Or how bout learning how to drive on ice/packed snow. It's not that hard. I reccoment everyone with younger drivers to take them out tonite to an empty parking lot or the state fair grounds parking lot. Let them get behind the wheel and play with various acceleration and breaking. Heck, even encourage them to take the car into a spin and teach them how to let go of the wheel and stick it in neutral for a second and watch the car correct itself.

Seriously people... it is common sense and nobody should be in any accident for a trace of moisture. Get a clue... "

" Arterials like A street shouldn't be ice rinks! Wake up, public works! "

" North 33rd was unbelievably slick, but A street to 27th to Old Cheney was just wet...then Old Cheney to 14th was so slick that pick-ups were unable to climb the hill. Ridiculous. I think that pre-emptive solution just helped melt the snow and allow it to re-freeze. In my 15+ years driving in Lincoln, today ranks in the top 5 slickest days. "

" "you are the one with the ticket for following too closely" That's an urban legend. The driver is expected to be in complete control of their car at all times. You hit someone behind you you will get a ticket. Learn to use your clutch. As for the streets - some spots were OK, but 27 & Pine Lake area (esp. S. of Pine Lake) was sheet ice. I have an AWD car and was sliding, meaning all ice (and I was too fast-oops). I did see some city trucks circling about, but it was too little too late. You got to wonder if the stuff made this WORSE, with melting and refreezing... "

" Like stated before the roads were not that bad. What is bad is the soccer moms, kids, and of course no consideration of what the road conditions are. When roads are slick you can't drive like you usually do. Lay of the accelirater a little bit, instead of going 10 over like most drivers go 5-10 under. This is easy to figure out! "

" 75 accidents so far due to road conditions!! Off Flood of LPD just stated in her press conference that it was not the speed of drivers in fact drivers were driving very good, it was the ROAD CONDITIONS that caused all these accidents. Lincoln road crews - it is going to snow MONDAY--lets be ready this time. That is 5 days from now, you have been given notice now. MONDAY. "

" Look on the bright side. On the photo of the So 48th St accident, look at the front end of the car. The massive damage to the front end crumpled it just as it was designed to do, absorbing most of the shock of the collision, and the driver/passenger area of the vehicle looks secure, hopefully saving the occupant(s) from injury. Modern engineering has done something right - easier and less painful to repair a car than to repair people. "

" I avoid all this by riding the bus. The most I have to deal with is a chilly walk, sometimes a little slushy walk to the bus stop. Then I can relax on my way to school or work or whatever. "

" I've lived here 30 years. It's typical Lincoln ice and snow removal. It's all about the $$$, always has been, always will be. They wait for it to melt in March. "

" Some of you folks are just hilarious! Reading these comments one would think you expect the city to send a crew directly out to your house, roll red carpet out from the door or your home to the door of your work, fanning you and feeding you grapes on the way.

Seriously - man up. "

" Great way to start off the snow season. I drive major roads 10 miles to work and only one was treated. I sat on Old Cheney between 70th and 84th for 35 minutes. It was pure ice and everyone was sliding all over the place. Where are our tax dollars going??? WHEN are the Lincoln road crews going to figure this out and treat all the major roads BEFORE rush hour?? "

" I arrived late to work today because of the icy conditions. I think most of the problem is that people are so worried to get to work on time that they do not slow down.

It is ridiculous if your employer was upset at you for being 10-30 minutes late today. I wish more people would worry about their safety than mainly worried about being a few minutes late.

People are understanding and life goes on. "

" All you people in Lincoln do nothing but complain, slow down when it is icey. Give the brine solution a chance to work. "

" I made it just fine into work today with minimal delay. Of course I was on a bicycle with studded tired on the bike paths (no they weren't cleared like they usually are before the streets.) Took me the same amount of time and I was safer than all you drivers out there with other maniacs. Plus I burned enough calories for that latte when I got in! "

" I drove from the Cotner and Vine area to downtown, and I didn't have any problems, allbeit for a short drive. I did go a little slower than usual, but the roads I drove seemed to be in pretty good shape. It was a little "slushy" at times, but as long as you pay attention and aren't driving like most people in this town drive on a normal basis (ie speeding, running red lights, etc...), it was fine. "

" Drove from Crete to Lincoln on Hwy 33 - was a dangerous sheet of ice. Wondered where the State Dept of Road trucks with gravel/solution were? Long lines of cars going 15 mph on the highway. Hwy 77 mostly slushy. Most of the major roads in Lincoln City Limits seemed to be pretty decent by 8:30 a.m. At least so much better than Hwy 33! "

" I drove slowly this morning and got to work just fine. I did, however, pass someone going about 40 mph in a 65, and I thought that was just fine, as long as they were comfortable with that speed. Then, as i passed them, I saw them texting. Nice. "

" OK, slow down doesn't mean crawl. Some of us have adequate vehicles, tires and skill and can drive faster than others. It's kind of silly for the people who can't drive on ice to tell those of us who can to slow down to their 10 mph speed. "

" What a bunch of cry babies. Suck it up and deal with life in the northern part of the US. I wiped out on my bike and walked a few blocks, but I am not going to point any fingers at the city of Lincoln for it. It was actually kind of fun.

Lighten up and realise this has nothing to do with God being taken out of or put into our schools, Obama taking away your guns, or if the founding fathers were Christians. Heck you could even enjoy the beautiful glistening ground and be thankful it was not 12 inches deep. "

" I thought that the stuff that the city put down was to prevent Icing? I think that the city just needs to figure out what works and go with that. "

" I had an interesting experience on Old Cheney this morning when I got stopped on an incline up a hill just west of 84th street. I had my front wheel drive car going 90 mph and standing absolutely still just trying to find a way to get it to move, scared that if I let up, I would have slid back into the car behind me. I finally managed to move the car ENOUGH to drive on the grass to get moving again, then crawled to 70th and went from there. YES....I was late for work this morning. YES....I saw people in bigger vehicles than mine flying around like idiots, but I am still extremely thankful that I made it into work safely as did members of my family and my coworkers. I'll be looking at a vehicle with 4 wheel drive, but keep in mind that this is Nebraska, and the Roads department doesn't have a better crystal ball than the rest of us. "

" When I was first out, at 5:15 a.m. headed to the Cooper YM, it was cold and a little snowy but not slick. When I left the Y 90 minutes later, it was beginning to get slick. When I left my house at 8 a.m. to drive downtown, I was shocked at how conditions had changed -- pretty much glare ice most of the way. I think the fact it was barely freezing coupled with tire traffic worsens the ice. That's a function of physics/chemistry. I actually thought the arterials were worse than the side streets. "

" East of 80th Old Cheney was solid smooth ice. The slight hill was polish to a high gloss. The west bound right turn lane on Pioneers at 74th is an up hill lane and was polished. A tip to the roads department, intersections and particularly those that involve hills make a good entry on the high priority list. This weather event was well within the bounds of the forecast. This is not rocket science. What's the problem? "

" Moved to Omaha from Lincoln. Part of the reason was so I did not have to listen to people like you. The whole town is so negative all the time. Seriously. The streets here were good and that helps but the side streets were very slick. Man alive, it is no wonder Lincoln is in the state that it is in. When are you all going to start thinking positively and realizing that there is only so much you can do? If you don't like it, leave Lincoln. I left because I could not stand the negativity and also because I felt the city had a lot of operational issues. I'm much happier up here and especially so TODAY. "

" Wow people it was not that bad out. I really liked the one where someone said "go to any major city in the snow belt and see for yourself". Well buddy I drive truck over the road. I have been to every major city in the US and let me tell you guys this is nothing. Have you been in Denver, Chicago, and New York City in a blizzard?nHave you been in Dallas on the top bridge of the freeway that is about 200ft off the ground in a ice storm? Or in Little Rock when they get 13" and there are only a few plows in the state? I'm going to say NO or you would not have made that comment.

I was out this morning and didn't think it was to bad. I guess people should slow down and take there time. But wait then you would have to leave early for work. Oh and don't forget speeding threw that yellow light. Maybe if the city puts the speed camera's in people wouldn't have to worry about speeding. I have to say of all the city's I have been to Lincoln drivers SUCK. "

" Public Works? I believe it's Public "don't" Works..Just an icy mess...way to go Lincoln..I guess Public Works doesn't get their "Be Prepared" merit badge.. "

" To all of those who are complaining, we live in Nebraska, it is December, shouldn't we expect ice and snow on the roads? If you don't like it, move to Florida and you can complain about hurricane response. I want to buy a truckload of kleenex and give it out to drivers who cry about road conditions during the winter. It is going to be a long winter if road conditions like this morning got you this upset. "

" I completely agree with you Ed! You can barely find an article on this website anymore without one or several negative comments and someone complaining! You just can’t win in this town. If the Department of Roads wouldn’t have put down the solution, people would be complaining that nothing was done! And when they try to be proactive, people do nothing but complain of them wasting money. The Department of Roads can tell the future just as much as any of us can. There aren’t enough workers or plows for them to conceivably be able to cover EVERY street in Lincoln within a matter of minutes. I watched the news last night and saw snow so I planned accordingly and left EARLY for work. I drove Interstate and Hwy 77 south to work. It wasn’t THAT bad. Slow down, pay attention and keep your hands on the wheel. Although I don’t enjoy driving in these conditions, I am aware of the fact that I live in Nebraska and know that it inevitable that I will have to and I am capable in driving in these conditions. I trust my driving. And I don’t have a 4WD vehicle. It’s the other people that need to SLOW DOWN, get off of your cell phone (including texting)! That will help with preventing a lot of accidents! "

" This morning, I left the drive and struggled to get traction. Two blocks later, when I needed to turn, I slid a little bit. After that I figured it out: slow down, keep plenty of distance between myself and others, and take my time.

While this is not exactly rocket science, if I had tried to rush, I probably would have the one who got hit by the car who couldn't stop at the red light on O Street.

Grow up, quit complaining, and learn how to drive. If it is that unsafe for you to go out then STAY HOME! "

" I was up driving at 6AM and had no problems whatsoever with icy roads. Some spots were slick, yes, and with my job I had pretty much driven all over Lincoln by 9AM. But none were THAT bad. I'm 23 and pretty much know if the roads are icy slow down, give yourself more time to brake, don't follow too closely, etc. It's not that hard and for all of you complaining: learn to drive better in winter conditions and quit blaming the road crews. To whoever said this is the worst they had ever seen the roads....are you kidding me? This was nothing! Get real, people. If you don't wanna drive in snow move to California. I hear minimum wage is like 8.50 there. ;) "

" I was going no faster than 15 mph down Cotner between 66th and Vine this morning about 7:30. As I rounded the curve heading towards Vine, my car began to drift. I never once put my foot on the accelerator and knew my anti-lock breaks would do absolutely no good. I ended up doing a 180 and came to rest facing the other way from the direction I was heading in the the lane heading the other direction (basically facing the "right way"). As I doubled back through a parking lot to get going in the direction I needed to, another car lost control in the exact same spot -- a giant Suburban no doubt with 4WD. Another one of my friends flipped around just south of O St on 48th. He was going about 20 mph and was going straight. A GUST OF WIND caused his flip. Ice is the great equalizer when it comes to driving conditions. If the roads are untreated, even the most cautious of drivers can find themselves in unbelievable circumstances. "

" To everyone:

Check out the updated article about the 84 reported accidents. It says that the brine solution was not applied this week because the regular day was Thanksgiving, and they only got the bridges treated with the brine solution. The Rosa Parks bridge into downtown is usually the first place to ice up in this city, and it was ice free this morning due to the brine that actually was laid down. How could they not get this done when this has been forcasted forecasted a week. I am sure most of these people in the accidents would have liked to pay the city employees a little overtime. "

" The only problem I had this morning driving on the main roads was caused by some drivers who were a few fries short of a Happy Meal. Take a hint, people ... when everyone else is driving slow, you may want to slow it down a bit, also. And just because you have a big tough 4 wheel drive pick up that can drive through two feet of snow, doesn't mean you can stop any faster than my little front wheel drive. The only spots I found slick was where people would gun it trying to leave a light, or would slide trying to stop. Even the best saline solution can not help poor drivers. "

" Anyone that has ever lived in another midwest city understands how bad the Lincoln road system really is. It has nothing to do with slowing down and learning how do drive in winter weather. The road crews need to get out and do their job's. Some of them should have tried to drive up Old Cheney this morning. It was almost impossible. I want to hear what the Mayor has to say about this. The Lincoln road crews continue to FAIL us every single year. "

" I drove from Lincoln to Omaha today. They had separate street conditions--icy in Lincoln; dry in Omaha. Ed, you had a normal drive this morning. Lincoln drivers didn't. Let them blow off some steam. "

" Hey it is the same thing every year the first few little snow dustings and people cannot remember how to slow down and use caution common since is all you need,not blaming someone else for everything that is not perfect in life by the way did you clear your drive and walkways before you left for work in that mad rush this morning I bet not whoops sorry to all of the school children that might have fallen and got banged up.
And is it really that important that in weather like we had today the first thing you do is dial that cell phone when you put the car in drive and head off down the road or are you calling that someone special to say you should be here with me cause you aint never seen a wreck like your about to because I'm not paying attention I'm on the phone.See you on the 5:00 news.
Quit complaining and slow your roll the world out there will wait. "

" I must echo the majority of comments here about driving in hazardous conditions: use caution. If someone in front of me is driving slow, so am I. Nobody cares if anybody is in a hurry, and I don't care if you curse me all the way to the moon for being slow and staying WAY behind the car in front of me. Number of accidents I've had: zero. And I'll drive like a grandma and keep it that way, thank you. "

" I also drove from Lincoln to Omaha this morning at 8 am. South 17th Street was slicker than anyone could ever imagine. The final 49 miles through I-180, I-80 and into Omaha were tolerable to normal. But don't let anyone tell you that Lincoln streets weren't horrible. "

" What a bunch of babies. It's December in Nebraska. WOW..snow and ice, who'd a thought. Who cares if its icy and snowy. Don't like it? Stay home or move or drive for Dept of Roads and sand your own street. Until then I guess keep whining. "

" It took me an hour to get out of town. There was traffic lined up all up and down south 70th, people in the ditches. When I got to Hwy 77 it was clear all the way to beatrice. Seems the city of lincoln could use some training on how to clear streets. What a joke their department of roads must be. The smaller towns I went through were clear as well. Why is the richest city in the state also the worst maintained? "

" its the same thing every time out of public works HQ if's and buts and should of could of i am sick of hearing it just how much of this do the tax payers have to put up with before the mayor replaces our inept street maint superintendent??? mine and many many other votes ride on it "

" At least they are trying somethign different, not everything they try is going to work, but at least it's a sign of change. Stop blaming the city because you couldn't drive your usual five miles an hour over the speed limit. It is childish, and sad. I reduced my usual speed down to 20-25 mph and had no problems whatsoever. It doesn't matter what kind of care you drive, we all have to slow down in slick road conditions. "

" 'Drive like a grandma' remark mentioned in an earlier post here makes me laugh. I'm a grandma in my 60s, and according to my hubby (who drives like a farmer, looking at the roadside sights all the time), I drive like a bat outta hell. But not on the ice! Anyway, my Grama license plates (the grandkids gave me vanity plates for Christmas last year) give me away. "

" The roads were fine. I think some people just need to learn how to drive in conditions. "

" Why does everyone think government should solve every problem?? It's December in Nebraska. We have snow and ice. Drive carefully and you won't have a problem. If you speed, drive recklessly, yak on your phone, etc., then yes, you'll probably have a problem.

You really think the city should have put ice melt on every mile of every road before 7am for less than a 1/2 inch of precipitation? Hahahahaha! "