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Legislative committee hears effects of illegal immigration

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BY JoANNE YOUNG / Lincoln Journal Star

Wednesday, Oct 15, 2008 - 05:59:34 pm CDT

SCHUYLER — They may argue illegal immigration is a federal issue, with implications for the state.

But it’s communities — like Schuyler, Scottsbluff and Crete  —  that are being forced to adapt and figure out how to best live with undocumented residents.

In Nebraska, it’s primarily Hispanic immigrants, some who have entered the country illegally, who are swelling school enrollments, putting pressure on small hospitals and straining traditional lifestyles.

Schuyler-area residents representing education, law enforcement, business, government and health care met Wednesday to talk about the effect of immigration on their city. Three state senators —Brad Ashford of Omaha, DiAnna Schimek of Lincoln and Chris Langemeier of Schuyler — listened.

The Legislature’s Judiciary Committee has scheduled a series of meetings around the state to talk to residents about issues surrounding immigration. The one in Schuyler was the fifth.

In each town, senators have heard a variation on the same themes. The number of immigrants are impacting economies and draining resources.

Health care and law enforcement are dealing with people with no IDs, or with multiple IDS, and people living in fear.

All the issues result from the inconsistencies in enforcing federal laws, Ashford said.

“The human toll on families and communities struggling to deal with these issues is incredible,” he said.

In a dozen years, Hispanic enrollment in Schuyler Community Schools has gone from around 8 percent to 65 percent. Four hundred-fifty of those students have to learn English, said Superintendent Robin Stevens.

Many immigrants come from places without democratic governments, said Schuyler Police Chief Lennie Hiltner. Some are highly transient.

They fear reporting crimes in which they are the victims or witnesses.

Hiltner said he saw an illegal immigrant plead guilty in court to a crime she had not committed to take attention off herself.

But unless immigrants are arrested for a crime, the police don’t care about legal status, he said.

Fear is a huge issue, both in Schuyler and across the state.

So is the need for some type of ID cards, some way undocumented immigrants could function within the system, said attorney Dick Seckman. 

Connie Peters, Memorial Hospital administrator, said having an ID in health care is a big deal.

In some cases, one patient who comes in for treatment may have three records from using different false identifications.

“For us it’s not about documentation status,” she said. “We just want to know who they are.”

Some said businesses in the area were struggling to get employees because white residents were moving out of town. Some churches are hanging on by a thread after losing many of their members who moved away. Hispanic residents tend to establish their own churches.

The town is also losing its volunteer base. 

Steve Thompson, Cargill vice president and general manager, recently moved to Schuyler from Hereford, Texas.

“From my perspective, we have to adapt, not cast stones,” he said.

The immigrants are here for good, he said, and communities must figure out how they are going to deal with the effects rather than continuing to think immigrants have to go.

If they were forced to leave, he said, the economy would come to to a screeching halt.

“We’re going to have to change the way we do business and make them a part of it,” Thompson said.

“In 10 to 15 years, they are going to be living the great American dream the way we are.”

The schools don’t look at their  Hispanic students as illegal immigrants, Stevens said, but rather as students who have to be educated.

“I don’t care if they are illegal,” he said.

Leaders said Hispanic residents need to be integrated into all aspects of the community life. Right now, they said, there is a separatist attitude among many Hispanics.

No Hispanic residents were at the meeting, although they were invited, Langemeier said.

Schimek said if she were in this country from Mexico, she would be distrustful, too, and not want to participate in the community.

She worries about the kids, and all their negative experiences, she said.

Still, the cities the committee has visited are making progress, Schimek said.

“But until the federal government acts, problems will remain with us.”

Reach JoAnne Young at 473-7228 or jyoung@journalstar.com.


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Constance wrote on October 15, 2008 10:40 am:
" Maybe it is time to consider ways to improve LEGAL immigration. The state depends on immigrant labor, as do many parts of the nation. What programs has the state initiated that begin to manage legal immigration from the point of origin? The state is failing if there is no attention given or processes implemented to encourage legal immigration. "

Outside the Box wrote on October 15, 2008 10:45 am:
" Target and punish the employers. If they don't hire illegals -> there are no jobs -> if there are no jobs -> the illegals don't come. "

Mr. Goodsense wrote on October 15, 2008 11:07 am:
" It's about time. All we hear from so-called "leaders" is the economic benefits of illegal aliens. What about the social costs? What would our savings be on Medicaid, housing costs, infrastructure, schools, food programs, etc. if all illegals and their dependents were forced to return to their country of origin?

The economy and our natural resources can't sustain the invasion. It needs to be halted -- now. Are you listening Legislature? "

SB wrote on October 15, 2008 12:25 pm:
" Don’t curse the illegal with your big box shopping cart full of cheap goods – I think that’s how the saying goes. "

Earl Scudder perpetuates the problem wrote on October 15, 2008 1:51 pm:
" The article is right that government needs to "identify solutions to problems that have resulted from illegal immigration in Nebraska." One solution, proposed by NU Regent Candidate Earl Scudder, is to give illegal immigrants in-state tuition. Providing taxpayer benefits for illegal activities is not the way to solve the problem. I am voting AGAINST Earl Scudder. "

Biased Meeting wrote on October 15, 2008 2:02 pm:
" "Representatives from law enforcement, education, business and faith-based groups from the Schuyler area were invited." Attention Legislature is this really the only people you invited? Seems a little out of whack. What about health care providers or other community organizations that are not faith based and deal the illegals? I agree with Constance, look at the process to become a citizen. They may give a known rapist citizenship due to his country of origin and send a hardworking Hispanic home. "

Douglas wrote on October 15, 2008 7:01 pm:
" Dear Senator Schimek, champion of educating children, Pay attention. Building of new schools to educate the illegal immigrants will come to a screeching halt with the new economy. No way in hell am I going to vote to increase my taxes to support a bunch of thieves. The next crisis in Schuyler, Crete, or other packing plant towns revolves around school construction and the defeat of bond proposals. Mark it down as fact before it happens. Until these children arte old enough to vote there won't be new schools and by that time I'll be dead and don't give a damn. "

Mercy wrote on October 15, 2008 7:23 pm:
" We had laws and our govts. and leaders and greedy ignored them. NOW,
everyone is suppose to learn how to cheat, lie, pamper all the wrong,
but if your a citizen and get caught, to jail you go!!! Its no different
than how this mess with the financial institutions came about. Everyone is like the company AIG. Got caught spending the taxpayer money for a
hoop-de-la time in Calif, laughed in everybodys face, turned right around
and took another fun time in Europe!!! "

Send them home wrote on October 15, 2008 7:56 pm:
" They are taxing our resources and making USA their country. Be here legally, get the help you need legally, stop stealing from us. It is because of this and the government allows it to happen, people are out of jobs, homes lost, taxes are raised. We ALL need to live and live together but WE have to abide by the rules then it should be for ALL people, not a select few. If we went to Mexico illegally would they teach me Spanish in school NO, would they allow me to work illegally--NO. "

whatever wrote on October 15, 2008 8:32 pm:
" If this is all these Senators took away from this meeting then there simply is no hope. You invited people that needed to be invited but you didn't invite everyone. And Mr. Thompson there is plenty of stone casting but as a Cargill corporate hack you only chose to cast your stone in one direction and one direction only. At least it was recognized there is a separtatist attitude among the Hispanic community. That is a big part of the problem. But then you have Sen. Schimek essentially telling the Hispanic community that they should be fearful. Now Sen. Schimek you tell me how that is helpful, how it builds bridges how it minimizes fear? Frankly it's attitudes like yours that blankets all of us as "nativist zeolots". Your generations time has come and gone, please you and everyone of your generation needs to step down from all leadership roles so the rest of us can repair the damage you have done and build the new America. Your type more than any others IS the problem. "

Kenneth H. Zike wrote on October 15, 2008 9:05 pm:
" Illegal, means illegal. Round up all illegals, their families, and sent them back to where they come from. The money hungry businessmen who are taking advantage of the cheap labor should be arrested and punished for knowingly abetting illegals. If there were no jobs the illegals would not be here. "

mTm wrote on October 15, 2008 9:16 pm:
" Sounds like an egotistical Cargill hack basically saying the Joe Public "screw you the illegals are going nowhere" We need to nail these employers, especially this ego monster to the wall. "

foragainst wrote on October 15, 2008 10:12 pm:
" There are a couple of things that people seem to not think about with this issue.
1) If we send the illegal immigrants back that already have established families here we will leave the families without anyone to support them. The families then will be supported by you and I through state services. Most illegals that I have met are very hardworking with two or more jobs that they provide for their family with and they also pay taxes on what they make just as you and I do.
2) There are many "legal" aliens here that actually cost us much more than the illegals do and do not pay taxes on wages because they are living off public services. Who makes the decision for "legal" people to come here? T"Legals" actualluy use much more of our public services than the illegal culture does.Which is worse? Who should decide who should live in our free country and who should not.If we are going to have barriers because of economic costs then we are looking at keeping out the wrong people.
3)Every culture has it's difficulties in acclimating to a new country. It takes time for adjustment on both sides. However, I am troubled when people come to live here and do not want to live according to American ways. If their culture was so great then they should stay there no matter if they are legal or illegal.
Just some additional thoughts. I think this a confusing issue for everyone. I do agree that breaking the law is breaking the law no matter who you are but at that same time I have to wonder if it is a good law. I feel sorry for the children that are caught in this issue. No matter how one looks at this situation it is not fair for children to live in fear everyday that their parent(s) may be taken away. "

The real source wrote on October 16, 2008 7:03 am:
" The real source of this problem is the current Bush administration's refusal to crack down on the employers that hire the illegals. They want the cheap labor no matter what the cost so they can reap the 7 figure bonuses.

Crack down on the businesses that hire illegals by stiff fines for the business and each executive for each illegal hired for the first couple of times. After that, jail the executives. The only thing corporations understand is money. Fine and jail the executives and the jobs for illegals will disappear and when the jobs disappear so do the illegals because they have no incentive to come and stay.

Simple solution and at a very low cost to the taxpayer. "

4america wrote on October 16, 2008 8:05 pm:
" The 14th amendment was intended to protect the rights of newly freed slaves to become citizens. In the 1960's, this was re-interpreted to allow any child born in the US to be considered a citizen. This opened the floodgates to illegal immigration. If a woman could make it across the border and have a baby, that child would be eligible to welfare, medical, food stamps, and housing, of course paid to the illegal mother. If we as a nation went back to the original intent of the 14th amendment, and when an illegal alien had a child in the US, both mother and baby were deported from the hospital back to the mothers country, this problem would end. No need for fences, employers reporting, fines for renting to aliens, etc. If they can't self support, they will self-deport. "

Milt Smith wrote on October 17, 2008 9:17 am:
" Illegal immigrants are stealing identities, stealing jobs, stealing healthcare, stealing welfare and changing the culture of our country!! "