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Letters, 10/12: Behavior isn’t American

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Sunday, Oct 12, 2008 - 12:03:50 am CDT

The recent rhetoric at McCain/Palin rallies is not only disgraceful but dangerous. John McCain and Sarah Palin supporters have grown so desperate to win the upcoming presidential election that at rallies, crowds are accusing Barack Obama of being a “terrorist” and guilty of “treason.” The worst of course is the rally attendee allegedly yelling “kill him” toward Barack Obama.

At Palin rallies, attendees have become hostile to the media, including yelling a racial epithet at an African-American sound man.

Neither McCain nor Palin responds to these shouts from their crowds. I am concerned that by their silence they must condone such behavior.

Eight years of failed Bush economic policies have left some Americans in dire situations. Some are without jobs and losing their homes, have no or poor health care and a government more intent on helping the extremely wealthy rather than those of us who are the backbone of this nation.

It’s scary to think the person who allegedly yelled “kill him” at a recent rally could be desperate enough to actually commit an act of violence against Obama or his family.

This type of behavior at the rallies isn’t American, and it isn’t putting country first.

Donald White, Lincoln

We need McCain, Palin

Americans, stand up and salute our flag! We need to elect John McCain and Sarah Palin so we can continue to be proud American citizens. Obama wants to turn Americans into global citizens, and he admires China’s infrastructure! Obama didn’t put his hand over his heart or wear the flag lapel pin until just a few months ago when his not doing so was made public.

McCain/Palin want to keep everyone’s taxes low, reduce government, reward American work ethic and enterpreneurialism, cut special interest spending and get our economy back on track by putting more money into our pockets that we can, in turn, pump into our local economy. Obama wants to increase taxes. Obama claims to only be taxing the rich, yet in a free market, if he increases the cost of doing business for the rich, then those business/corporation owners will pass those new taxes down to the middle class through one of the following: higher costs of goods, lowering of benefits or laying off workers. That’s how it works.

McCain/Palin understand the conservative principles that made our country great. They understand that our freedom is in jeopardy with the hatred our enemies have toward America, and they will do everything needed to protect our country and our freedoms.

McCain/Palin have always put the American people first and have always been proud Americans. Citizens’ votes are extremely important in this election.

Cindy Hochstetler, Lincoln

Seek potential cures

In response to Chip Maxwell’s letter (LJS, Oct. 5), “Keep stem cell facts straight,” I want to give a layman’s understanding of the differences between adult and embryonic stem cells. Adult stem cells come from a number of sources, including umbilical cord blood and other tissues, and are already specialized — or programmed — to become certain cell types in the body, such as muscle or skin. Embryonic stem cells, on the other hand, can become any cell type in the body. Embryonic stem cells come from the inner cell mass of microscopic embryos that are created in a dish in fertility clinics. Those that scientists seek to use are embryos that otherwise would be discarded.

As to adult stem cells, a Sept. 29 article from the University of Michigan’s The University Record On-Line quotes Lawrence Goldstein, director of the stem cell program at the University of California, San Diego, as saying he would like to take unused embryonic stem cells and introduce genetic mutations for Alzheimer’s disease to discover better treatments and drugs. He says it’s not possible to do this research with any other kind of stem cell. The article, the source for some of my earlier comments, continues: “It is mistakenly said that there are 50, 70, 100 diseases that are cured with adult stem cells,” Goldstein said. “But it is simply not true.

“Nobody wants, more than I do, to find treatments for people with these diseases. If I thought there was an adult stem cell treatment that would work for people with Alzheimer’s disease, we would be working on it. It is not there,” he said, explaining the importance of being able to use embryonic stem cells in research on disease.

The foregoing summarizes the reason behind our need to do embryonic stem cell research. I rely upon scientists who report promising results from using human embryonic stem cells to treat Alzheimer’s, ALS, diabetes, Parkinson’s and spinal cord injuries in rodents, and they also say there is no evidence of successful use of adult stem cells to treat such diseases and conditions. Research is about exploring new areas of scientific inquiry, and universities should be encouraged to seek life-saving cures.

Earl Scudder, Lincoln

Keep watching Russia

I admire Sarah Palin’s talents and her ability to put things across, and of course she’s an attractive, likable person. But it seems to me her ability to make good things happen should be to remain as governor of our great state of Alaska, a state full of natural resources.

What bothers me is that Russia is “next door” — that country has a strong military and has been marching into smaller countries — and it would be easier for Russia to attack Alaska than for us to be sending supplies overseas to those war-torn areas.

I think Palin would be doing our country a much better service by being at home and keeping a watchful eye on that “big neighbor” close by.

Helen Jochim, David City

Bailout theft from Americans

History will show the following as the proper headline for Oct. 4, 2008: “Largest heist ever — $1 trillion stolen in single day.”

President Bush gave a parting gift to many supporters and friends by looting the U.S. taxpayers of close to $1 trillion when Congress voted to allow the Hank Paulson bailout. The American people were powerless to stop this action.

Paulson approached Congress one week prior to recess with a doomsday scenario that required immediate action. Congress in essence had a gun to its head and was given no option based on the mounting financial pressure.

Congress, feeling it needed to justify the heist, proceeded to dress the bill with very little that actually addressed the American people’s concerns and added the usual pork to a bill that would not dare to be held up. Congress has just one month until Election Day and needed to finish quickly so members could get home and campaign for their jobs.

A few investment banks will move sour assets off their balance sheets and stick them to the American people, while American families continue to see tightening credit, high inflation, dwindling property values and the inability to meet their mortgage payments, increasing debt, a falling dollar and a commodity crisis in full bloom.

Dave Wetzel, Page

Get out and vote

Did you ever think that maybe someday

There wouldn’t be a USA?

You think “Oh my, what a terrible thought”

Are we all doing the things that we ought?

There are so many things to think about

And sometimes I have a lot of doubt

Global warming, terrorists, should I recycle?

To save on gas, should I ride a bicycle?

Are the elected ones doing what they should?

Or maybe someone else would do what you would

From the top to the bottom and some in between

There were some better choices, or so it would seem

With all this in mind write yourself a note

This coming November get out and vote!

Jack Hendrix, Lincoln

Don’t attack messenger

Regarding the community column by Roger Conrad (LJS, Oct. 4): He paints liberals with a very broad brush. I consider myself to be very liberal. Neither I, nor anyone I know, would want to have Conrad banned from voicing his opinion. I may not agree with his views, but he has a right to them.

Regarding his claim of a liberal media, I would argue that most media are neither liberal nor conservative. They are for the most part driven by rating and advertising. The stories covered are the ones they believe will be of the most interest to their audience. The bigger the audience, the higher the ratings and the greater the advertising revenue. You would think this would be something conservatives would like because it’s market driven. As far as bias, as long as the story gives both points of view, which most news does, by the way, then it’s up to the reader to decide if it’s true or not.

The other problem with the column is that while Conrad cites the news as being biased, he uses “Saturday Night Live” and “The View” as his primary examples. Neither of these could even be remotely considered news programs. And while he cites NBC and MSNBC as liberal news sources, which I will agree have a liberal tilt, he completely overlooks stations such as Fox News, which I don’t think anyone will argue is not a conservative channel. So I would argue that those two news sources cancel each other out.

If people find the media to be biased, perhaps it’s they who are biased. I think we should all stop looking for bias and just be more concerned with what is true and what is not. With all the sources for information out there today, there is no reason to be uninformed on the issues. Claiming media bias is just a way to try and discredit the source. By attacking the messenger you don’t have to back up your arguments with pesky facts.

Brian Shaw, Lincoln


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N. Slater wrote on October 12, 2008 3:12 am:
" Reading and hearing pros and cons regarding one candidate or another poses several questions from me...

Are you voting Republican cause you think you are Republican..and Democrat because you think you are Democrat?

Are we NOT all supposedly Americans? Did we not agree to be called
America, the home of Freedom; the land to speak what we feel without prejudice? Then WHY oh WHY are we voting one party or another; discriminating each others party, bringing each others secrets out of the closet, instead of acting as an American should? We are American people, we live in the United States of America, we SPEAK ENGLISH..not bend over backwards to ACCOMODATE those that don't wish to follow the rules and laws and be truly American.

Mr. Obama is AMERICAN for those that are racist against him..He SPEAKS ENGLISH,and quite well. He addresses the problems and tries very hard to steer the debate back to the issues if so allowed.He isn't an illegal alien or even an immigrant. He is American! Wake up and truly listen!

My opinion is Americans need to drop the "Republican" or "Democrat"
titles..and vote as an American..one title, one people, voting
for the person not the government title. VOTE FOR AMERICA'S BEST
CANDIDATE, and end this finding fault with each other. I care about
what we CAN do for our country..not what you did or didn't do. God Blessed America! Its about time we truly did. "

Thank goodness wrote on October 12, 2008 4:24 am:
" Our long, national nightmare is coming to a close. Vote Obama-Biden to ensure prosperity, peace, and sanity for the next 8 years. C'mon Republicans, you hear that little voice in the back of your heads saying "what the heck is going on with this country?" If you don't hear that voice, turn off AM hate radio and turn on your brains. "

RJ wrote on October 12, 2008 5:21 am:
" Donald, I to worry about the rallies that have become full of hate, then to see Palin, McCain stand up there smiling, cheering the crowd on, what
has our country come to??? Palin is a danger. She encourages this kind
of racial hate. Yesterday I heard one say "Off with his head." People
give it some real thought as to if this is what you want running our country. Someone encouraging hatred. We don't need that in this country now.

Cindy, sounds to me like you have been listening to much to Rushy. Every
thing you point out that Palin, McCain is going to do, isn't what McCain
says, if you would LISTEN. "

Proud Liberal wrote on October 12, 2008 5:57 am:
" Cindy:

You have obviously 'drank the Kool-Aid' of the movement conservatives, which advocates (among other things) lowering taxes on the wealthy, shrinking the government whenever possible, and scaring the bejesus out of the citenzenry over terrorists first and Democrats second. We've tried this for the last several years, and today we have a huge income disparity between the wealthy and the middle class, a government that is largely non-functioning, and a scared, suspicious and angry electorate. Gee, maybe we should try something different! "

So Cindy wrote on October 12, 2008 6:05 am:
" You want McCain Palin to follow the conservative plan of Bush. A plan that has doubled the national debt from 4 trillion to over 10 trillion dollars in less than 8 years, increased the size of the government by creating more departments that spend money and does nothing and invaded a country that did not attack us and was not a threat and killed over 4000 Americans for no reason. The US has lost all respect it had world wide due to his "conservative policies".

If you take notice at the state the world economy is in now, due to Bush's economic policies of de-regulation, it will only get worse when McCain, who admits he knows little about economics, his own words, takes office.

As for feeling safe, I actually feel less safe now than I did 8 years ago because Bush has ruined the military and has done nothing to secure our borders. The only thing he has done is increase the number of illegal immigrants coming across our borders every year. He has done that by making it profitable for businesses to hire illegals to work for less money than a citizen and pocket the excess profit in the name of good business. He has also moved millions of good paying jobs overseas and put millions of Americans out of work.

As for McCain, I can't trust him because I don't know what he was subjected to while he was a POW, was he brain-washed or not? The communists were known to do that back during the Korean and Vietnam war. Is McCain a sleeper agent for the communists? One has to wonder. Have him open up his records that the North Vietnamese have on him so we know the truth.

Go ahead and vote for McCain and watch this country go down to disaster. "

Fear Tactics wrote on October 12, 2008 7:25 am:
" Why is it that many McCain/Palin supporters are so frightened of Barack Obama? I have serious policy disagreements with McCain, however, I am not the slightest bit frightened of him. Let's all grow up and agree to disagree like adults. "

My dear cindy wrote on October 12, 2008 7:43 am:
" . . .if he increases the cost of doing business for the rich, then those business/corporation owners will pass those new taxes down to the middle class through one of the following: higher costs of goods, lowering of benefits or laying off workers. That’s how it works.

Unfortunately for almost all of us, that is not how it works. That is how Republicans since Reagan have been telling us it works but the facts show a very, very different scenario. Based in the economic theory of Milton Friedman the ideas of 1) deregulation to encourage the 'free-market' and 2) give to the wealthy and corporations because they create jobs that the rest of us benefit from has come to be known, somewhat disparagingly though not inaccurately, as trickle-down economics. We are seeing the results of this economic policy today - mass economic crisis. What corporations have done is actually cut jobs through mergers and downsizing or move them to other countries. What the wealthy have done is to stockpile that wealth creating the largest gap between the rich and the rest of us since the last Great Depression. Both of these trends are a result of trickle-down economic policies and neither of these trends have been good for a majority of our population and in fact have been downright destructive to our economy and country.

Until people of both parties stop laying the blame for our current economic mess at the feet of this politician or that, or this CEO or that and begin to accept that overall the economic policies of the last 20 years will bring us regular crisis like we are experiencing now, we will continue to experience an unstable economy. "

Joe wrote on October 12, 2008 8:09 am:
" Thank you Earl.
Now can we talk about tuition.....? "

MarkyMark wrote on October 12, 2008 9:02 am:
" Wow Cindy, one can immediately see where you get your "News" from. Lapel pins? Chinese infrastructure? "Trickle down economics" is how it works?

You forgot to say that Obama is an Arab/Muslim.

Apparently you think the Republicans are Conservative. If you haven't been living under a rock the past 30 years, you will see that Republicans in Washington, have NEVER been Conservative. A complete myth repeated over and over, until people not paying attention, believe it.

Even on the Socialistic Bail-out of Wall Street, $150 billion in pork had to be added to the bill to persuade the Republican Congress holdouts to switch their vote.

Thank you for illustrating what is wrong with our beloved country. Let us Pray! "

Jeff wrote on October 12, 2008 9:55 am:
" At first I though Cindy's letter was all said as a joke, but then realized that there are still people out there who think you can win by challenging the patriotism of a United States Senator who has the faith and backing of at least 55% of this countries citizens. Cindy, most of us have come to realize that playing on peoples fears, as has been done by the current administration for the last 8 years, is not the way to go. You ask that we forget about the leadership disasters of the last 8 years and vote based on criteria that means nothing... that' right Cindy... if I were a muslim, communist (just insert whichever scares you the most) and I was trying to fool the American people, I would salute, wear a flag pin in a second. We have had 8 years of arrogance towards many of our allies around the world, and we have much repairing to do. We can't thumb our nose at other countries, act like we are the only nation God blesses, send our armies to war without international support etc. The last 8 years have changed that old approach. McCain Palin show no ability to grasp these issues. And Palin is not ready to tackle these issues is so needed. That was John McCains biggest error in judgement. Palin's approach and knowledge are so much like George Bush from 8 years ago, it is really hard to believe we are actually this close to going down that road again. "

To Don... wrote on October 12, 2008 10:24 am:
" I can only assume that you've WITNESSED the rhetoric at the McCain/Palin rallies? You've been there, right? Just wondering. I wouldn't want you to spew the normal left wing talking points. "

CS wrote on October 12, 2008 10:26 am:
" Cindy,
snopes.com, snopes.com, snopes.com, US Flag code does not specify covering your heart and wearing the flag as clothing actually is incorrect, snopes.com, stop believing every forwarded email you get, snopes.com, factcheck.com, tax cuts got us where we are already so everyone will have to pay anyway, snopes.com, Palin puts herself first, McCain puts himself first (see, "divorce of first wife"), snopes.com, conservatism is not the same as fundamental pentacostal christianity, snopes.com, separation of church and state. In short, please read snopes.com before you ignorantly vote in a few weeks. Thank you, that is all. "

Bob wrote on October 12, 2008 10:29 am:
" Cindy Hochstetler,

After 8 years of those "conservative principles", our country is as far from "great" as it's ever been... "

Jody P. wrote on October 12, 2008 11:12 am:
" Thanks for the laugh, Mr. Shaw. The NY Times, Wash Post, LA Times, the 3 major networks, CNN, and MSNBC may as well be attending Obama campaign strategy sessions. And I'm speaking of the news divisions, not just the news "analysts" and opinion pages. MSNBC in particular is so far removed from any objective reality that it resembles a surreal satire on liberal bias more than a real news channel.

You might consider the possibility that if you think those "news" sources are objective it may be because they are reflecting YOUR biases. Do you really think that everyone who has run against Obama (Clinton and now McCain/Palin) are really personifications of pure evil as the MSM has portrayed them, while Obama is a shining light of purity and goodness? Does that sound like a reasonable representation of reality to you? Really? "

Jona wrote on October 12, 2008 11:13 am:
" Cindy Hochstetler thinks that John McCain is so honorable he should be elected president. Let's see how honorable he has been.
1. According to fellow students at the Naval Academy, he managed to break every rule on the books. He was safe. His daddy was a 4 star admiral.
2. He graduated 5th from the bottom, which means with his activities, he wouldn't have graduated at all if his daddy hadn't been a 4 star admiral.
3. He was shot down in Vietnam for flying too low in a zone he had been told not to fly at all. Oh yeah, respect for orders mean nothing to him.
4. He lets everyone think he was tortured for 5 years. His fellow prisoners said that bad as it was, his torture was only for a short time when the No. Vietnamese decided they could use him for a bargaining chip and gave him medical treatment and more food. NOT 5 YEARS' WORTH.
4. He had an affair and left his disfigured wife to marry Cindy a month later. Really honorable.
5. There are also stories that this was not the first plane in crashed.
6. He's so honorable he allows his rallies to be dens of racial intolerance. He only this week has started to tone down the rhetoric. Never once did he admonish someone shouting, "kill him" when speaking of Obama.
The man doesn't know the meaning of honorable. "

To Donald wrote on October 12, 2008 11:35 am:
" Maybe the reason they are calling Obama a terrorist is he sympathizes with them. He has a more than friendly relationship with a terrorist named Ayers. He sat in the pulpit and listened to treasonous speeches for twenty years and did nothing to disassociate himself with the traitor. He went to Iraq and tried to convince the Iraqi PM to not go along with the President of the United States (according to the PM himself). That is treason, so I wonder where these people get these crazy ideas. "

Josh wrote on October 12, 2008 11:50 am:
" I see Cindy has been reading the internets lately. "

Andrew wrote on October 12, 2008 1:06 pm:
" Dear Donald,

While I do agree with your statement that these things should not be shouted at rallies, but lets look at it from a different angle. These people love their country, they want to stand up for the flag and they support their troops. Then they see a potential threat to America and America's vales, his name is Barrack Obama. People are scarred of him and his polices and are frustrated with the way that the mainstream media has handled the election. These people are passionate about their country, because they know how fragile the US is right now and how the next president could make it much worse. "

MarkyMark wrote on October 12, 2008 1:11 pm:
" Dear Cindy,

I do not understand how so many people are getting fooled into voting for Obama. If he was running for any other position, he would not get hired because he would not pass background checks. Anyone who believes that America should be a Socialist or Communist country needs to read history books. This may sound good, but it will turn out worse for all. I love my freedom and I will proudly vote for McCain. "

Beg to Differ wrote on October 12, 2008 1:16 pm:
" I hope that Cindy Hochstetler,is the not the norm. Its so obvious that this woman has not been reading the material out there. If you think McCain and Palin are not going to raise Taxes or make the common person's on the street life better?
The Problem here is a lack of education concerning our Government and how it runs. It NEEDS taxes to run. I will grant you that the last 30 years (If you run that through your head Reagan, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Clinton, Bush Jr, Bush Jr.) have produced a lot of People that apparently have been asleep at the wheel I wont even mention all the people in Congress that have been asleep I couldn't type that much!.
The point is, we have had people cutting taxes so much that they have to get money by pushing overblown bills through( That's the Pork barrel) The recent Rescue plan is an excellent example of this. Instead of just pushing through 700 Billion,they put through 850 Billion.
What we do need is some common sense. Lets figure out just Exactly HOW much is needed. Then go from there.
In that respect, look at the candidates again? I think anyone that says that they are going to cut taxes dramatically across the board or not raise taxes has a few screws loose. Both Candidates need to get honest with the American Public. However, we have become antagonistic to the truth, and that is SAD. "

Yup wrote on October 12, 2008 2:27 pm:
" If either Obama or McCain wanted to clinch the election, they should propose to 1. tell Iraq we can't afford you anymore, either pay for our liberation effort, or we leave, 2. tell all foreign countries that we give aid to that we are cutting and running and 3. cut the space program. It won't happen, but I wonder if we would solve some of our economic crisis by stopping spending. "

Pete Allen wrote on October 12, 2008 4:07 pm:
" While I understand the dismay when the public expresses its frustration at political rallies, it would be well to listen to the words instead of the tone. People are angry, and people are frustrated. And most of all, the people are outraged at the one sided media coverage given moderate and conservative candidates.

Google "gibson gate." The first result is "ABC edits 30% of Palen interview." Print out the transcript, watch the video. Compare the transcript with the video. And you should be appalled at Disney's political bias.

Do the same with "Couric Palen interview." And be appalled at Viacom's political bias. Time after time, story after story, from ACORN to the financial meltdown, media bias has kept the American people from finding out what is going on. And it should be a crime.

Pete Allen "

Early Voter wrote on October 12, 2008 4:09 pm:
" Couldn't have said it better Jack! "

Amazing wrote on October 12, 2008 4:11 pm:
" Gee, I read all the comments about who should be President and I wonder who has really done their homework. If you believe everything you are told or hear do you check it out to see if it is true. If you don't like what the media is telling you, do you check out what they are saying to see if it is true.

Have you read all the position statement information the candidates have put on their websites?

Yes, everyone has the right to vote, if they are registered. But the only question that I have for all is Are you really better off financially than you were 4 or 8 years ago?

You can not make an informed decision unless you have done your homework. Don't trust what you are told unless you have checked it out. I hear too many talking points of both partys just being repeated. Too many Polly Parrots. There are many websites like Snopes.com and FactCheck.org that you can check out the truth of information that is being told to the public.

When you vote, make sure you have done your homework! "

Rxwoman wrote on October 12, 2008 4:23 pm:
" Oh my goodness, Cindy Hochtetler, are you for real?
"Americans stand up and salute the flag..." Seriously? I ask, what exactly does that accomplish? Does it feed anybody? Does it create any jobs? Does it give anyone access to health care? Does it educate anyone? No, it's simply more of the same old condervative nonsense designed to elicite an emotional response. Standing up and saluting, or wearing a lapel pin does not make anyone more patriotic, or less patriotic. Stop already with the childish, emotional, symbols, and words, and look past the pins and the rhetoric.
As far as cutting taxes on the wealthy, and " how it works.." I think we have ample example of "how it works" with the collapse of the economy. I mean how much evidence does a person need? Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy, and raised the minimum wage, twice, and our economy boomed! Bush has done just the opposite, and the effect has been just the opposite. I mean really, could it be any more obvious how it actually works.
But, like columnist Garrison Keillor writes , " Anyone who got whacked last week and still thinks McCain-Palin is going to lead us out of the swamp and not into war with Iran is beyond persuasion in the Englsih language. They'll need to lose their homes and be out in the street in a cold hard rain before they connect the dots." "

Re Cindy wrote on October 12, 2008 4:38 pm:
" WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING? Could it be that faux news is the only channel your t.v. tunes to? I am an independent and quiver at the thought that people could be so completely brainwashed. You need to try to watch at the very least cnn once in awhile. Haven't you lost enough with the bush comrades in office. I don't really want to stand in soup lines because of a dumbed down president and lazy congress. Mccain has shown his true colors by spreading the terrorist and liberal stuff. Susan is a barbie doll that he likes to offset his age and health. It ain't the liberal news thats going to fail mccain its john mccain and his out and out lies. I have a 19 year old who questions all the politicians messages. This year she is voting and is sick of the negatives so she says shes voting for Obama. At least he isn't spreading a sick message to the voters. Maybe he should call mccain whitey. Hows that work for you? "

Look at the Facts Cindy wrote on October 12, 2008 4:52 pm:
" Cindy Hochstetler is yet another one of the shallow, uninformed McCain supporters who seems to think that wearing a flag lapel pin or placing one's hand over one's heart in public is an accurate measure of a patriotism or love of country. Trouble is, she's got it wrong. Barack Obama did not suddenly start wearing a flag lapel pin or start putting his hand over his heart when his not doing so was made public. Fact is, he always did and the one time he didn't has been seized upon by conservative pundits. I challenge Hochstetler to go back and look at the first presidential debate between McCain and Obama. Obama wore a flag lapel pin; McCain did not. Were I as shallow minded as Hochstetler I might be inclined to say that McCain is not a true American, but that is a crass insinuation that has no part in this campaign. Hochstetler is equally uninformed about the issues. She just repeats that same old tried and true mantra recited ad nauseum on Fox News and various right wing talk shows that Obama will raise taxes yet ignores the fact that Obama has said he will reduce taxes on 95% of Americans while the other 5% will see no tax increase. It's too bad that Hochstetler, like many McCain supporters, seems disinclined or unable to think for themselves and continue to spread the lies the right wing hate media keeps spreading about Barack Obama. "

Oh Cindy wrote on October 12, 2008 4:58 pm:
" You can't be serious. Proud Americans for OBAMA/BIDEN "

Rxwoman wrote on October 12, 2008 6:27 pm:
" JodyP, and any others who believe the media is "liberal biased", once more allow me to explain a simple fact. The mainstream media is owned by one of 5 large corporations. Large corporations have NO motive to slant information to the left. They DO, however, have strong motives to slant it to the right.
The mainstream media ( CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc) must answer to their corporate owners. They have no reason to bias anything to the left. They do however have much reason to bias things to the right. They simply are not as obvious about it as FOX News is.
Anyone who thinks that CNN, or MSNBC, etc. are liberally biased have been swallowing too much Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, BS. "

Pro Freedom wrote on October 12, 2008 6:41 pm:
" When the election is all said and done will any of you be willing to support your country and lay your politically swayed views to the side and work toward country instead of self?

No matter who takes office it is clear that they have to overcome a lot of "hate" from the other side. So very sad.... "

MarkyMark wrote on October 12, 2008 9:56 pm:
" McCain supporters are even so low as to steal someones name on this post. "

RE Andrew wrote on October 12, 2008 10:06 pm:
" Why exactly would these people be 'scarred' and worried about American 'vales' if Barrack is elected president? Are they worried he may try diplomacy with other countries first, instead of just flying F-15s in and dropping bombs before sending in the troops because they 'might' pose some sort of threat? Worried the U.S. could try and mend some world relations that definetly are 'scarred', instead of trying to be the bully on the block. Let's look at it from a different angle. Maybe these people, who you say love this country so much, stand up for the flag and support the troops, are just ignorant. Maybe racist. Probably both. Yelling 'kill him' at a campaign rally is just asinine. Passionate patriots? Whatever. The only thing to be scared of is how the next president is going to fix the huge mess left by GWB. The damage is already done. "

Tzi wrote on October 12, 2008 10:34 pm:
" ...Obama supporters are threatening riots/open rebellion if their chosen candidate should lose.

Interesting that the liberals are more concerned with "anger" at the McCain rallies.

Why do I even bother? The Journal Star loves Obama and will just take this down.... "

Nope wrote on October 12, 2008 10:48 pm:
" CBS has in the past and present slanted its news to the left. Fox has always been to the right. ABC used to be fair, but no more, they are leaning left along with NBC. People are wrong if they think the media is only reporting the news. They leave out more negative news on Obama and leave out more positive news on McCain. I don't listen to Rush, or any of the other far right, I just read and listen to the general public and to the candidates. "

Wow Cindy wrote on October 12, 2008 10:52 pm:
" It's so sad to be reminded that there are people like Cindy out there. Who cares about a flag pin when people can't feed their children, their homes are in foreclosure and unemployment rates are sky high. Oh well. Just put your hand over your heart and say god bless america and all will be fixed magically. "

BicycleMike wrote on October 13, 2008 5:01 am:
" By "conservative principals" do you mean Privatize the profits and socialize the losses? I'd have to agree those conservative principals really did a bang up job in the recent past... Oh maybe not. I don't have a litmus test that includes does he/she wear a flag lapel pin yes/no. Does he/she place hand over heart yes/no. When I stand in respect for our flag I choose to think about our great history and those who built our nation, I'm not really concerned with placing my hand over my heart. "

To Cindy wrote on October 13, 2008 7:33 am:
" I am an undecided voter. Letters like yours make democrats afraid of republicans. Accusing Obama of globalizing Americans, and then writing only in global terms is confusing at best. Next time please define: American, special interest, which taxes? I am not picking on you, I see this talk way too much and it only adds confusion.
Thanks to Donald White. He defined American as non-terroristic. One of many definitions I can agree with. "

Hey Rxwoman wrote on October 13, 2008 8:05 am:
" What happened to those middle class tax cuts that Clinton was promising on his campaign trail? Didn't happen, get ready for it not to happen again. You are critical of the right, it seems you have just as big of blinders on. "

Ignignokt wrote on October 13, 2008 9:45 am:
" Obama supporters are even so low as to steal Mark Wahlberg's rapper pseudonym for all their posts. "

mike wrote on October 13, 2008 10:09 am:
" Cindy, Being a global citizen is a good thing! Looking to other contries who show strong economic growth for inspiration is a good thing! We can't just shut our eyes and ears to the world and pretend everything will be ok. "

Lindsay wrote on October 13, 2008 12:22 pm:
" So what "are" American values? Somewhat subjective, no? "

Zoomie wrote on October 13, 2008 5:39 pm:
" Tzi - Obama supporters are threatening riot if Obama loses?!?! Really? What AM-Talk radio station told you that? 'Cause it sure wasn't from any Obama supporters! I recall being told the same thing about Clinton supporters in 1992...and Hillary Clinton supporters earlier this year! But thinking about it, only "riot" I recall seeing because of an election in recent years were REPUBLICANS!!! In Florida, they staged a phoney riot to shut down lawful counting of ballots in 2000. Or have you forgotten so quickly? "

I dont trust Obama wrote on October 13, 2008 8:51 pm:
" Obama went and campaigned in Europe. He wants the United States to be just like the rest of the world. What happened to the idea of American Exceptionalism? There are so many people that want to come to America they are coming here illegally so our freedoms must be desired verus what else is out there in the rest of the world. I have a bad feeling that if Obama wins, we will see less of a middle class by the end of his four years because he wants to tax the rich and when this is done, the rich won't be able to hire the middle class workers so then there will be more poor people without jobs and demanding welfare. "

Jody P. wrote on October 13, 2008 10:35 pm:
" Are we witnessing the re-emergence of the far right in American politics? Has John McCain unleashed a new movement built around fear, xenophobia, racism and anger?McCain's unraveling began with Palin;Palin hasn’t broadened McCain’s appeal; she has narrowed it to a Republican base that is seething with resentment, openly bigoted :the Republican side is alienating voters and creating a climate that encourage vicious attacks against innocent Americans . "

Yup wrote on October 13, 2008 10:39 pm:
" the McCain campaign had recruited as a Palin handler none other than Tucker Eskew, the South Carolina consultant who had worked for George W. Bush in the notorious 2000 G.O.P. primary battle where the McCains and their adopted Bangladeshi daughter were slimed by vicious racist rumors. "

Greg Stahlnecker wrote on October 15, 2008 9:56 pm:
" Regarding the letter by Cindy Hochstetler (LJS , Oct 12) I have just finished watching the third presidential debate. I noticed that for the third debate in a row, that John McCain didn't wear a lapel flag pin. Where is your and the rest of the right-wing's righteous indignation on how unpatriotic that is? "