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Letters, 10/11: Doesn’t sound like cheating

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Saturday, Oct 11, 2008 - 12:29:10 am CDT

Apparently Neal Obermeyer (cartoon, Oct. 5) learned something entirely different than I did from the article on alleged cheating at the dental college. As a teacher with 38 years of experience, I read the article carefully and concluded that students were learning the material and successfully passing exams; they just weren’t learning in the manner some professors had in mind.

I applaud Dean John Reinhardt’s move to publish the contents of the notebook online, making the information available to all students. That should have taken care of anyone’s concerns. The real rub seemed to be that students were making money for a hog roast by publishing test information.

It wasn’t Nebraska College of Dentistry students who received credit for clinical procedures they didn’t perform, and the article never suggested that students graduated without learning what they needed to know to be good dentists.

I don’t see an ethical problem here. I see students eager to learn what they need to know for their chosen profession, and a few professors who for whatever reason balk at facilitating the learning process.

Kathy Hegler, Cortland

Deleted from society

At 56 years old, I feel obsolete. I write thank you notes and letters. I don’t have access to e-mail. I am a snail.

But even worse is people don’t respond. I don’t hear back, “Oh, I got your note.” They don’t call and say thank you for the card, the letter, the gesture. I do not hear back via phone, nor card, nor letters. I guess I got deleted.

And nobody bothered to inform me. Should I stop being nice, i.e., buying greeting cards and stamps and writing tablets and envelopes? Is being nice an expense on my part that I need to dispose with doing?

Susi Eddens, Lincoln

Thank you for phone use

The newspaper carrier who delivers between Washington and Garfield streets on South 11th Street responded admirably to a customer’s demand of whether she had a cell phone.

I had a flare-up that put my own phone out of reach and was going to try to wake a neighbor at 5:30 a.m. The carrier not only let me call but also ascertained how long it would take for help to arrive and that I was OK with that. This is not a job expectation, and I am very grateful.

Shirley A. Clark, Lincoln

Positive movies buried

I have many complaints about the media, but for now I focus on entertainment coverage. The most vile movies get much space and good recommendations, while those with positive messages and role models get negative comments or are ignored entirely.

The most recent example is the movie “Fireproof.” It opened at The Grand for one week. Its extension of time was to be dictated by whether it garnered enough attendance. The Journal Star barely mentioned it, which would have totally escaped me if I hadn’t been looking for it, having heard about it on Christian radio. I am sure many people would have gone if they had known about it.

The prevailing culture of trying to protect us from Christian values by declaring their positive actions and messages “religious,” and therefore unacceptable, while promoting almost anything that is deleterious is making itself increasingly evident in the behavior of almost every segment of our society.

If I were sentenced to watch for a month all the movies and programs that are highly touted, I probably wouldn’t make it that long.

Martha Greene, Lincoln


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Justin wrote on October 11, 2008 2:58 am:
" Oh, wow! The new Kirk Cameron movie is out! Let's go, gang! (Yeah...probably not) "

positive movies RENTED wrote on October 11, 2008 4:19 am:
" Martha, with the way the economy has been not many people have been going to see all the movies they would like to in the theater. Seems like the only people who can afford to go anymore are teens with allowances and those who want to see the gory, high action, fantasy, tip of you're seat suspenseful flicks that are only worth seeing on the big screen.

When people want to see a movie with romance or the clever positive message in a plot they seem to rent and have an evening with a loved one or the family. Christian values are still there, remember how well "the Passion of Christ" did? People just want to be entertained for their monies worth not to sit through a reality check for 90min. Morales are good, but they don't sell. It's up to family to keep their morales and beliefs alive, not entertainment. Until all movies are made with plots that give life altering experiences that sell your only going to see the type of genre's that are simple and have already proven to sell amongst the mainstream. For now just rent the movies with family values. "

Hank wrote on October 11, 2008 7:25 am:
" No Susi, please don't stop being a caring person. It is the many, many who feel that thier own little world is soooo important that they forget or totaly disregard anything close to respect and common courtesy that they can't take the time to respond to someone who treats them with kindness. "

It occurs to me wrote on October 11, 2008 7:25 am:
" that there are some Christian values we should be protected from and are not: conceit, bigotry, slander, repression, are just a few that come to mind. Positive values are not necessarily JUST Christian values. "

WWJD wrote on October 11, 2008 7:32 am:
" Martha

my wife and i went to that movie and it was a great movie! we came right home and i wanted to see if the book was a real book because while we have a great marrage i believe that you can always make it better.

i love how the movie showed how hard marrage can be even for us christians. i know that when the dvd comes out that i will buy it and start loaning out to people it has a great message!

Love Dare Rocks!!! "

William wrote on October 11, 2008 9:26 am:
" Martha, you make a silly point. The CIA note that 78% of the citizens of the USA are Christians. How can that high a percentage be protected from their own values? No protecting Christians from non-Christian values like hate and intolerance, maybe that is what really is going on out there? "

Outraged in Omaha wrote on October 11, 2008 9:31 am:
" It's terrible to hear stories like this from good people like Susi who try to make contact with other people. I too, feel the same way. Deleted from society. At 60 years old, I feel obsolete, too. I email and write thank you notes and letters, also. And Susi is correct; people don’t respond. I never hear back from them. Whether it's after a job interview, birthday, anniversary, birth, congratulations, sympathy, Christmas or Easter. They don’t call, write or email and say thank you for the card, letter, or for the kind gesture. Should we stop being nice to these heartless people? I think being nice is a necessary expense on our part. Perhaps after Bush and his cronies are gone, maybe we'll return to being a more compassionate, warm-hearted people. "

Eric wrote on October 11, 2008 10:28 am:
" Martha, not everyone shares the same opinion of what is good entertainment. Go watch the movie of your choice and worry less about what other people are doing. "

MarkyMark wrote on October 11, 2008 11:17 am:
" If you like religious themed movies, Martha, May I recomment "Religulous" by Bill Maher. "

peb wrote on October 11, 2008 11:27 am:
" Fireproof was a horribly-made movie with horrible acting. The fact that no one went to see it had nothing to do with "protecting anyone from Christian values." There are hundreds of churches in Lincoln with thousands of members. Why didn't those thousands of people go see the movie? I read reviews of the movie on Christian websites and they were horrible. "

CS wrote on October 11, 2008 3:21 pm:
" Fireproof got little attendance because after the local churches exhausted their flock of seeing it, the rest of us didn't feel the need to go. If I want to be proselytized, Ill go to church. "

WWJD wrote on October 11, 2008 6:09 pm:
" 78% give me a break there are a lot of people not telling the truth about being a christian.

i'll give you the wife was not a good actress but the movie was very entertaining. lots of people from my church were going to the movie. but i would have to agree that with a 50% divorce rate people don't want to be told that divorce is wrong. i wouldn't expect them to spend there fun money on it. because there is probably more like only 25-30% of the country that is really living like christians. it does take more than just sitting in church on sunday to qualify. "

Jeff wrote on October 11, 2008 7:37 pm:
" You can learn some things by studying old tests, but on the other hand, learning the test questions isn't the optimal way to master a the material. Especially if those test questions are still in use on exams. Then you have a problem. They are learning the test, not the material. So I've got to disagree with you Kathy. "

Doesnt do the Movies wrote on October 11, 2008 7:37 pm:
" Actually I don't do movies, and I HAD heard of the movie. I can't afford them, # 1 and #2 I can't HEAR in a theater. I have to be honest I prefer DVD's. Its Less expensive!
I have to wonder if Ms. Greene lives in a bubble, there is an economic problem going on, people DON'T have the money. They might rent the movie later when it comes to that venue however.
Look, listen and observe your surroundings before making gross accusations! "

Rxwoman wrote on October 11, 2008 9:59 pm:
" WWJD, I guess that would depend on what your definition of "living like christians" is.
If by "Christian" you mean religiously delusional, bible-thumping, conservative Republican, hate-everybody, homophobic, hypocritical, war mongering, intolerant, judgmental, holier-than-thou types, then no, it really doesn't take much more than sitting in church on sunday, and then watching FAUX News the rest of the week.
If by Christian you mean Christ-like, non-judgmental, love your neighbor, heal the sick, and give to the poor, then there aren't a whole lot of them, and most who are, are labeled "liberals". "

Richard wrote on October 12, 2008 4:38 am:
" Susi, as much as you would like, you simply cannot be friends with everyone -- so why even try? It's not that you should write certain people off or starting being rude to people who don't fawn all over you. But you should stop wasting all of your energy trying to charm others who just don't seem to get where you are coming from. Instead, put your energy toward the people who deserve your time and who give you back the kindness and respect you give to them. "

to RXWOMAN wrote on October 12, 2008 1:40 pm:
" You are the one being judgmental here! "

To Susi wrote on October 12, 2008 2:48 pm:
" Susi, I am a little more than half your age, and I too, write thank you notes and send cards and letters. I think there is just something really nice about sending someone "real" mail and being thoughtful, but I also know how frustrating it is because I don't always get much response in the way of acknowledgement either. There are times I wonder if I should continue also, but I enjoy doing it and it makes me feel good that I might be doing something that make's someone else's day a littler better. There are likely people who appreciate it more than they tell you.

To Martha, Fireproof wasn't screened for critics so I don't know why you expect the LJS to do a write up on it. It was included in Ground Zero as being a new movie, and I did a search on this site, and it did come up as being listed on the "Family Calendar" as a viewing option for families. I doubt you'd be any happier if an unflattering review had appeared. For those curious, it is still at the Grand so if you want to see it, go, if you don't, don't! "

Thank you Kathy Hegler wrote on October 12, 2008 7:44 pm:
" You hit it right on the mark. I think they should look at the fact that maybe the professors are not doing their job well enough. "