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BY CHARLES BABINGTON / The Associated Press

Monday, Oct 06, 2008 - 09:33:45 am CDT

ASHEVILLE, N.C. — The McCain and Obama presidential campaigns traded accusations of mudslinging Monday in the wake of new ads dredging up infamous events from 20, 30, even 40 years ago.

Nancy Pfotenhauer, an adviser to the McCain campaign, said it’s “absolutely essential” that Americans hear not only about his plans for the future but also “about the decision they have to make about these two individuals.” She said she thought that commercials that raise new questions about Obama’s associations “have struck a nerve” with the Democrat.

Obama’s communications director, Robert Gibbs, countered that the new McCain offensive — including GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s allegation that Obama “pals around with terrorists” —is happening because Republicans want to talk about something other than the struggling economy.

Gibbs, who appeared with Pfotenhauer on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Monday, charged that the McCain campaign is resorting to “a despicable smear campaign.”

Democrats on Sunday had denounced Palin’s charge and warned that it would trigger reexaminations of McCain’s past. Sure enough, Obama’s campaign released a Web video and a letter about McCain’s role in the Keating Five scandal from the early 1990s.

McCain “does not want to play guilt-by-association, or this thing could blow up in his face,” Democratic strategist Paul Begala said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

The names being bandied about — Bill Ayers and Charles Keating — are unfamiliar to millions of Americans, and their wrongdoings occurred decades ago. But political operatives dredged them up over the weekend, and they could play a prominent role in the campaign’s final month.

Palin, the Alaska governor, defended her earlier comments about Obama and Ayers, in which she said the Democratic nominee is “palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”

Ayers was a founder of the violent Weather Underground group during the Vietnam era. Its members were blamed for several bombings when Obama was a child. Obama has denounced Ayers’ radical views and activities.

The two men live in the same Chicago neighborhood and once worked on the same charity board. Ayers hosted a small meet-the-candidate event for Obama in 1995, early in his political career. Obama strategist David Axelrod has said the two men are “friendly.”

On Sunday, Palin told reporters in California that her comments were about “an association that has been known but hasn’t been talked about. I think it’s fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy’s living room.”

In fact, Obama was questioned about Ayers during a prime-time Democratic debate against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton before April’s Pennsylvania primary.

“The heels are on, the gloves are off,” Palin said of her campaign strategy.

Obama, speaking Sunday to thousands at an outdoor event in Asheville, N.C., fired back. He said McCain and his aides “are gambling that he can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance.”

He described the criticisms as “Swiftboat-style attacks on me,” a reference to the unsubstantiated allegations about 2004 Democratic nominee John Kerry’s military record in Vietnam.

Other Democrats rushed to Obama’s defense. Veteran party activist Hillary Rosen, on CNN’s “Late Edition,” said, “If they throw mud like that, then you go back to Charles Keating, you go back to Sarah Palin’s investigation.” She was referring to inquiries into the firing of Alaska’s top police official.

“You know, I just don’t think that John McCain wants to take this nuclear strategy,” Rosen said.

Just months into his Senate career, in the late 1980s, McCain made what he has called “the worst mistake of my life.” He participated in two meetings with banking regulators on behalf of Keating, a friend, campaign contributor and savings and loan owner who was later convicted of securities fraud.

The Senate ethics committee investigated five senators relationships with Keating. The panel cited McCain for a lesser role than the others, but faulted his “poor judgment.”

Obama’s new Web video, being e-mailed to millions of his supporters, summarizes a 13-minute Web “documentary” that the campaign plans to distribute Monday.

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said in a statement, “McCain’s Keating history is relevant and voters deserve to know the facts.”

On Sunday, Obama also unveiled a TV ad on the economy that describes McCain was “erratic in a crisis.” Some see that as a reminder of McCain’s age, 72.

 


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Desperate Times wrote on October 6, 2008 9:46 am:
" Desperate times call for desperate measures. McCain sees the polling data and the projected Electoral College votes and realizes he has to do SOMETHING to try to eat into Obama's lead, so we get all this nonsense instead of actual issues. The sad thing is that there are many who will fall for this stuff. Think for yourself, America. Don't fall for mudslinging "

Great wrote on October 6, 2008 9:49 am:
" You want controls and you want less freedoms then vote for OBAMA. You want freedoms and free enterprise than vote for McCain. My vote goes to McCain, he is a true leader and has what it takes to keep us free. "

Nina wrote on October 6, 2008 9:51 am:
" In this scoreboard of trying to make big of only slightly related events of the distant past, I see it as another instance of waste of money paid by citizen contributors to forward a campaign. Both candidates should stop and think that if they approve this waste of "Swift Boat" stuff, people might think they're likely to waste government money on frivolous, silly things, too. Every presidential candidate for years has eventually resorted to this kind of ad, which should be beneath the dignity of any serious candidate. How much more effective would be this answer to the first such ad by one's opponent: "Senator...... has seen the ads falsely portraying......., and refuses to participate in this type of trash, instead believing American voters have more substance and intelligence than to believe such nonsense." "

Winner John McCain wrote on October 6, 2008 9:54 am:
" Obama looks and acts like he was born yesterday "

Brian wrote on October 6, 2008 10:03 am:
" At the beginning of this election, I could have voted for McCain or Obama.
I've realized since McCain's campaign started that he's a delusional, hateful old man that thinks he's right 100% of the time.

McCain said during his last presidential campaign, "You can judge me by my presidential campaign"

McCain is now running a 100% negative campaign. 100% negative campaigns doesn't serve his supporters or doesn't lead the American people as they deserve. McCain is a disgrace, we don't need a leader that leads by negative assaults on his competition. "

Zoomie wrote on October 6, 2008 10:15 am:
" Actually, McCain took dozens of free jet rides from Keating, as well as vacations in the Bahama's at Keating's mansion (which McCain only paid back AFTER the scandal broke). Additionally, McCain's wife and father-in-law were business partners with Keating (with Keating illegally using bank money). He also took literally hundreds of thousands in donations from or arranged by Keating over several years. When asked later if his (Keating's) goal had been to buy influence by donating to the Keating Five Senators, Keating's reply was "I certainly hope so!" The S&L collapse was the direct result of deregulation in the '80s, and is almost exactly parallel to the collapse of our financial system now, also largely caused by deregulation. McCain was directly involved in the corruption and scandal then. Apparently he learned nothing from it, as he still preaches deregulation at all costs. Meanwhile, Obama has NEVER had anything to do with bombings or people who -- at any association in his life -- are bombing America. He served, briefly, on a charity board with many people, one of whom was a radical bomber 30 years earlier. While McCain was involved in the decades old Keating scandal, Obama was never involved in Ayers radical youth! "

JohnR wrote on October 6, 2008 10:26 am:
" Great - and yet isn't McSame promising to continue the Imperial Presidency of George Bush, AND to continue the warrantless spying on American citizens? That's more "freedom" to you? I suggest you don't know the meaning of the word!
Obama has never had any particular relationship with Ayers, especially as regards his radical past. McCain, by contrast, was directly involved in the middle of the Keating corruption, much of which seems to directly tie in to today's banking scandal as both were in large part the direct result of gov't deregulation gone awry (and McCain still strongly supports yet more gov't deregulation!). So there would seem to be a valid reason to bring up McCain's past Keating relationship; there is no real reason to associate Obama to Ayers other than an attempt at a smear. Let's note that last week an independent group that monitors the types of TV ads both are running noted that Obama was running about 20-30% attack ads against McCain; by contrast, McCain was literally running 100% of his TV ads attacking Obama's character. Why is McCain afraid to talk issues? "

Zoomie wrote on October 6, 2008 10:29 am:
" Anyone catch the attack ad McCain is running, at least in Omaha? In it, he claims Obama voted to defund out troops in wartime, risking their lives! Unmentioned in the ad is the fact that there were two funding bills. Obama voted for one and against the other. No matter which passed, the troops were never in danger of being defunded! Additionally, since Obama voted for one (and against the other), let's note McCain voted against the first (and for the second)! So, if Obama voted to defund the troops....so did John McCain! "

Dave wrote on October 6, 2008 10:55 am:
" What are people smoking? Less freedoms under Obama, are you kidding me? Under the current administration the American people have lost more constitutional rights than at any other time ever. These are rights that countless Americans have given up their lives to defend only to have them erased by the pen of GWB. Please check the voting records of McCain. He has voted with this administration 90% of the time to go along with the trashing of our rights.

ANYONE who thinks this will change with McCain is not living in this reality. "

Freedom wrote on October 6, 2008 11:10 am:
" To "Great", Less Freedoms?? Have you heard of the Patriot Act? We've lost plenty of civil liberties in the last 8 years.
By the way, I think politcians on both sides of the aisle want more control/regulation in the financial sector. "

My indepent view wrote on October 6, 2008 11:13 am:
" I had made my mind up that I could not support Obama due I did not think I could trust him. McCain appeared the lesser of two bad choices. Then Obama picked Biden and McCain picked-well, golly ge shucks, what even you want to call her. On top of that in the past two weeks Obama has acted and sounded like a president while McCain flounders in poor attach sound bites. This independent vote goes for Obama in a state where it will not matter but I will feel like the right choice was made for me. The big question is how many other independent voters in other critical states feel like me? "

middleofnowhere wrote on October 6, 2008 11:15 am:
" The dysfunctional GOP hijacked by the social conservatives has shown no leadership, no direction only horrible messes and they are growing worse. But that's OK you can still stay in power by use of tricks, lies and innuendo. It’s about time the party changed. "

Carol wrote on October 6, 2008 11:40 am:
" McCain is running scared. He has shown that his bad judgment was not born yesterday, there is a long history of it that was confirmed with the Keating 5 verdict. McCain and Palin have turned to deception and twisting of facts, anyone who has listened to Obama knows his plan should bring taxes to the most wealthy 5 per cent of the nation. There is a clear difference in integrity and credibility, McCain has squandered his for political gain. "

Johnh wrote on October 6, 2008 12:16 pm:
" If Obama is "palling around with terrorists" isn't it equally true McCain's VP choice is married to someone who supported treason for many years? After all, as an active member of the Alaskan Party for 6 or 8 years, he supported a political party position calling for Alaska to secede from the Union, with or without permission of the American people...and that's called treason! Isn't having a suppoter of treason inside your White House more noteworthy than someone who was casually acquainted with a 30-yrs-ago ex-terrorist, who would never have any position in your White House? "

Jason wrote on October 6, 2008 12:48 pm:
" I guess this means it's swift boat season "

MarkyMark wrote on October 6, 2008 2:54 pm:
" More terrible decisions by McCain. Making this about personality and then going negative is so superficial, it's no wonder he is slipping daily in the polls.

Now, He may need to send Sarah back to college to smarten her up, but at least he doesn't have to train her to lie. Looks like she came with that talent. She's a natural. "

Winner Barack Obama wrote on October 6, 2008 2:58 pm:
" McCain looks and acts like he was born around the time of the Civil War. You kids get off my lawn! "

JR wrote on October 6, 2008 3:10 pm:
" Don't be too harsh on ol Great. He did what he always does and turns on his am radio to get his news and talking points for the day. I am sure ol Rush, Bill, Shawn or one of the other gas bags told him to write in and say this.

I have a brother who is just like him. Every day he has one argument he got from his am radio which he repeats and repeats till someone faces him with the real facts. Then he goes back to the "Fact" from the day before.

Which brings up another point. With all the right wing media types around, aren't they dangerously close to becoming the evil "mainstream media" empire??? "

asdf wrote on October 6, 2008 3:23 pm:
" I guess if you play with fire you're going to get burned. The Obama campaign would not have brought up the Keating Five scandal otherwise. Sen. McCain has quickly led to his own demise ever since choosing Palin as his running mate. "

Utica wrote on October 6, 2008 3:50 pm:
" Talking to farmers from Columbus to Seward, it sounds like they will at last join Lincoln's voters to vote for Obama. Quite a few weren't excited about having a black president, but then they learned more about Sarah Pahlin and llistened to her silly folksy mimicing and realized she's mocking allot of us. Go figure, maybe the state is more progressive in rural areas than once thought. Time to shuck the Red image. "

P. Robert wrote on October 7, 2008 11:59 am:
" Can't say I like what MCCAIN is doing, would consider voting for someone who has a lot of experience and is qualified to be President.......can anyone tell me one meaningful thing Obama has accomplished as a Senator? Still haven't heard anything......Why doesn't Obama answer the allegations about Ayres? If he has nothing to hide, why not address it instead of attacking back with Keating. He is doing the exact same thing as McCain. He has no experience so he points to the issues anytime someone brings up his background.

I can't believe I am going to say this but where is Hillary when we need her?

The bottom line is we are in a world of hurt. We can't pay for Obama's giveaways and we can't afford anymore conservatives that have lost their fiscal restraint. God help us all. "

JB wrote on October 7, 2008 12:07 pm:
" Politifacts.com: Obama met Ayers "Mostly True", McCain helped the Keating Five "Mostly True". What Ayers did took place when Obama was eight years old. McCain was helping the Keating Five while they were doing their criminal activities and McCain was older then eight. "

John wrote on October 7, 2008 12:10 pm:
" Obama 364, McCain 174 electoral votes. Add Missouri to Florida, Ohio, Nevada, North Carolina, and Virginia which are now going for Obama. McCain has fallen behind in all the toss-up states he had to have to make this election close. Game over. "

JB wrote on October 7, 2008 12:19 pm:
" Obama 364 McCain 174 electoral votes. Looks like a big blowout. McCain is very desperate. "

Lincoln Taxpayer wrote on October 7, 2008 12:54 pm:
" To Utica
Get real, Lincoln will vote for McCain because it is the only choice to make, Obama needs to come back in a few years when he has some experience. Nebraska votes Republican because it is the smart thing to do. "