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Thursday, Oct 02, 2008 - 12:45:28 am CDT

I have watched politics since I was old enough to know what politics are, and I have never seen such hate for a candidate that I’m seeing for Gov. Sarah Palin.

She is under attack because of not having traveled overseas, having a special needs child and a daughter who is pregnant, among other senseless things. What are the attackers afraid of?

Before throwing too many stones, people should take a look at her opponent. Joe Biden thought Franklin D. Roosevelt was president in 1929 and that he spoke to the American people on television about the Great Depression. Television?

Dan Quayle was crucified in the media about misspelling “potatoe.”

Let’s be fair here.

Doug Vandervort, Lincoln

Safe haven a good idea -- in theory

In theory the safe haven law was a good option. Having the option to place an infant in a safe place rather than abandon or worse, leave it for dead, does address that specific issue. I certainly find comfort in knowing that an infant will be safe in the care of hospital staff.

However, the lack of information about who and how the law should be used has been severely neglected. But it does bring a serious and significant problem to the forefront for Nebraska. Fourteen children have been dropped off at hospitals in Lincoln and Omaha. Can you imagine just being dropped off by your family?

I think the real problem is lack of support and resources for families in crisis. First we have the proverbial waiting list. We can’t just say, “Hey, we need to wait for this crisis because was are on a waiting list to get some help!” What are families supposed to do during a crisis? We have some great programs in Lincoln that truly help, but you have to wait. And cost is always an issue for services.

I think the use of “abandon” to describe how families are utilizing the safe haven law is very degrading to both the children and their families. These are folks with nowhere else to turn for help. It is responsible to take the children somewhere safe.

The problem here is not the safe haven law but an issue that has been facing many Nebraska families for a long time. Families struggle every single day with little to no support.

Families need to become a priority for our state. Developing programs for families in crisis should be the priority. I will not judge the families who have used the safe haven law to take their children to hospitals. I will, however, say this is not a new problem. It has simply been brought to light for the public to see, and maybe, just maybe, the real issues that families in crisis face every day will get the attention and appropriate action that is desperately needed.

Teresa Vanderzee, Lincoln

Focus on Congress this election year

The country is in the middle of one of the most serious financial crises in its history, and power politics is again raising is ugly head in the Congress. As usual, it’s the Democrats against the Republicans and the Senate against the House, and enough roadblocks are thrown up by the sides that nothing gets done and the country suffers. The do-nothing Congress wags its jaw until the next excuse to go home and look for campaign donations.

This current circus makes me wonder if we are spending too much time, money and effort selecting a new president and not enough on changing the makeup of the Senate and the House. The current members of those once august and respected bodies have done little to nothing for the benefit of the people of the United states for a number of years.

They have run up excessive debt, have messed up taxes and have found ways to spend money without having public hearings. They are among the highest paid people in the country, have a health insurance program none of their constituents can afford, and work only three or four days a week. Most seem to do little other than that which their party leaders direct them to do for fear that by showing some independence of thought, campaign money from K Street will not be available.

The mortgage loan crisis has been building for a long time. A plan to recover is necessary. The risky loans that are the basis of it have been used for more than the eight years President Bush has been in office, and nobody has had oversight responsibility. Members of the various committees of the Senate and House, while not having specific oversight of these practices, should have been asking questions (the lack of responsibility has not stopped them in the past).

This situation will only get worse if congressional infighting is the only action we see. It may be time to think about removing the bunch.

Patrick J. Henry, Lincoln

Haar stands up for families

I was glad to see candidate Ken Haar talking about a plan to lower taxes in the state Legislature (Sept. 22, LJS). Too often campaigns are filled with attacks and distortions instead of thought and innovation. It is refreshing to see a candidate like Ken Haar presenting ideas and plans that will actually benefit Nebraska families. Ken has a record of standing up for families and working with others to find solutions.  Ken Haar will be a great asset to the Nebraska Legislature.

John C. Harper, Lincoln


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Minsless Robot wrote on October 2, 2008 1:58 am:
" Just because a lot of people think Palin is totally unqualified for the position of Vice President of the United States doesn't mean they, "hate" her. Enough of the drama. "

BicycleMike wrote on October 2, 2008 2:30 am:
" I agree with Vandervort to a point. As far as Palin is concerned I don't think we really need to be talking about her kid that is going to have a baby... big deal. Nor do I think we need to talk about her special needs kid either... big deal. What is a big deal is the fact that she can't name one Supreme Court ruling that she disagrees with, not can she agree on policy in regard to Pakistan with McCain. In addition, Governor Palin went one one of the most odd rambling I have listened to in a long time with concern over the 700 billion bail out. In the end I don't think people "hate" Governor Palin but they do know BS when they hear it and they are calling her out on it at every turn. Just like Biden and everyone else, she's just getting more coverage because she continues to astonish everyone with her total lack of knowlege about anything not Alaskan. I think we could raise the bar much higher as far as getting into the personal lives of candidates but be it Dem. or Rep. I want them squirming in their seats being peppered with questions. "

Al wrote on October 2, 2008 3:10 am:
" Uh.... who exactly is attacking Palin about her children? Anyone? I haven't even seen this pathetic excuse to buy sympathy brought up in weeks.

We don't need to criticize Palin about her children, she's giving us daily reminders on dozens of other things for why we should not vote GOP this year. "

Cole wrote on October 2, 2008 6:24 am:
" ...has a record of standing up for Nebraska families. Can anyone tell me what that means? What specific actions do politicians take when they are pro-family, where is this documented and where do I find the record?

I'm Cole and I sanctioned this message. "

MarkyMark wrote on October 2, 2008 7:19 am:
" A clueless cheerleader being a heartbeat away, are what Americans are afraid of. Apparently, you haven't seen her interviews, so be sure and tune in tonight.

Your comparison with Dan Quayle speaks volumes. "

Its true wrote on October 2, 2008 7:34 am:
" Unrelevent personal things keep getting printed about Palin that doesn't matter in her ability to become vice president. This week, a video of Palin playing the flute as part as the beauty pagent has appeared on the internet. And of course people are making rude, hateful comments about this. You need only to get on the internet to see that people will do or say anything to discredit Palin. Even tonights debate is tainted. Gwen Ifill, the moderator, has written a book about Obama and the black politicians achievements in the political ring. She is totally partisan for Obama, yet she is somehow going to put this aside to ask questions in the debate. So yes, the democrats are scared of Palin. "

brainlessvp wrote on October 2, 2008 7:37 am:
" Let's be honest, Doug -- when is the last time you have seen a vice presidential candidate SO unqualified. She is not being attacked for her family or personal issues. Rather, she is being attacked for her own exploitation of these factors to further her argument that she is just an "average joe 6-pack" from Alaska. Well, I don't want an average joe-blow-i-dunno running my country!! Since when is mediocrity such a prized characteristic in positions of authority? Why is it a good thing that Bush and presumably Palin are just average people that anyone could sit down with at a bar and have a beer with? These aren't the types of people I want running my country! No one in their right mind would accept such intellectual mediocrity from a surgeon or a pilot -- the same should apply here! "

Tired of it wrote on October 2, 2008 7:57 am:
" It is a shame the "The Government For the People, By the People.." must now limit itself to the self appointed elite who target anyone who approaches thier protected status. Palin is one of the people, and as per the requirements of the position just as qualified as Biden or Obama. It is just that she does not come from this self appointed and media appointed elite, that she is found unqualified. I for one dream of a return to a true government as the founders intended, and the era of the proffesional polititian class ends. Obama, the more I watch and listen to him is just an empty suit amatuer, Biden is a dinosaur who does not even know the histroy of FDR and TV . Palin is a fresh face, someone not contaminated with the poisons and power of DC politics. Palin is one of the people, attempting to serve her nation as the forfathers intended. And for that she is crucified by the self appointed elites. "

Palin is attacked wrote on October 2, 2008 7:57 am:
" http://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/ap/20081002/ten-people-bernhard-palin-5e343d7.html "

Palin is Failin wrote on October 2, 2008 8:02 am:
" Anyone in their right mind would be scared of Palin. Of her being in charge of the country, that is. She's manipulative, deceitful, selfish, and uninformed. She's just like George W. Bush. She seems to have a history of doing whatever benefits her and her cronies, regardless of the cost to anyone else. You've seen what eight years of that kind of attitude in the White House have brought us to. Mired in a war with no clear end in sight, trying to take (more) money away from the working class to pay for the mistakes of the rich who own the banks. Alienating our former allies against Russia through Bush's arrogance and inept decisions to the point that some are talking of the rebirth of the "Cold War". We need someone in charge who has some chance of starting to untangle this mess, and Palin is not that person. "

Josh wrote on October 2, 2008 8:04 am:
" I see It's true has been reading the Fox News talking points. Gwen Ifel is not "totally partisan". She wrote a book about black politicians (not just Obama, btw). As for Palin, if you can't play with the big boys, get out of the snadbox. "

Hitcher wrote on October 2, 2008 8:10 am:
" You're right, Doug V. Partisan attacks have been the norm in politics, but the Obama campaign and his media attack dogs have turned hateful attacks and smears into an art form. When it comes to hatred, no one can match the hatred of true fanatics, be they religious zealots, or political extremists such as Obama supporters. "

Smarty wrote on October 2, 2008 8:19 am:
" Let me ask you Doug... what if it were a Democratic canididate's daughter who was 17 and pregnant out of wedlock?

The Republicans, especially the evangelical Repubs, would have an absolute FIELD DAY talking about the devolution of "family values" and whether or not a person with such low moral character is qualified to be VPOTUS! You know it and I know it.

Spare me the holier-then-thou, 'poor innocent me', jargon. It goes both ways. "

Joe Six Pack wrote on October 2, 2008 8:22 am:
" I have yet to see a creditable news source criticizing Palin for her pregnant daughter or her special needs child besides of course the ‘editorial talking heads’. As “it’s true” has pointed out there is a lot of ‘stuff’ on the internet (but I wouldn’t call it ‘printed’ or credible as any joe six pack can post something on the internet, however I wonder how much hatred (actual hatred) I could find on the internet for Obama? Gee I’ll just google “KKK + Obama”… "

excuse me wrote on October 2, 2008 8:27 am:
" Exactly how is the moderator of a debate going to show her bias? She asks the same question of both Biden and Palin. "

Lets Be HONEST wrote on October 2, 2008 8:28 am:
" "...when is the last time you have seen a vice presidential candidate SO unqualified. "

Ahem. When is the last time you have seen a PRESIDENTIAL candidate SO unqualified??? "

Lincolnite wrote on October 2, 2008 8:46 am:
" Have you ever watched a debate? The questions are taylored to the individual candidates and are not always the same for each candidate. The questions asked tonight will be a farce. That is okay though, as she will do fine. Biden is no bright shining beacon. He will trip up as much or more. He has way more to lose in this thing. "

SE Lincoln wrote on October 2, 2008 9:03 am:
" Heard on the news this morning that 1 in 3 vice presidents end up in the oval office. I would think not just "elites" would be chilled by this. What is the deal with "elites" anyway? I want smart, thoughtful people in policy making positions, not "Joe six-pack." "

Chip wrote on October 2, 2008 9:04 am:
" All of the Harvard and Yale grads have done such a better job of governing cuz they're not in it for themselves; they really care. "

JT wrote on October 2, 2008 9:21 am:
" Doug, I don't hate Sarah Palin, I just really really don't want her to be Vice President of the country. Perhaps you missed this and don't know what an incredible disaster she would be in Washington.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E&eurl=http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ "

JT wrote on October 2, 2008 9:24 am:
" Gwen Ifill's book is NOT about Obama. It is an analysis of African American politics from the 60s until today. She got the book deal when Hillary Clinton was the heavy favorite to win the nomination. "

NRK wrote on October 2, 2008 9:25 am:
" Hey Doug, hopefully you'll see the light and see why people criticize Palin after you watch the debate tonight. Her stupidity will be on display for all to see.

Who "hates" her? She gets criticized because she is a moron and has no business being in a position to potentially run the country. That doesn't mean that anyone hates her. As for attacking her family and such, don't think that the Republican party wouldn't be going after a Democrat if the shoe was on the other foot. This is politics, get over it.

Poor, poor, poor Sarah... She knew what she was getting into when she accepted the role as McCain's running mate. What did she expect would happen? "

michelle wrote on October 2, 2008 9:33 am:
" Theresa you are absolutly right. I moved back to Lincoln just about a year ago when I left my husband. I immediatly had a job that I transfered to, a good paying job. I have two kids. I applied for low income housing, and was told it was at least a year or more waiting list and I am still waiting. I pay 700.00 a month for rent. I also went to Child Support Enforcement to make sure I would start getting child support from my now exhusband. That was in January. Guess what? Still nothing. The State of Nebraska doesnt care. I call them once a month to check on the progress and they tell me this takes time.How much time do they need? THey know where he works and lives. I finally asked the worker, "what do I have to do to get some child support? Quit my job? Go on welfare? What?" She didnt have an answer for me. I make about 100.00 too much a month to qualify for any help at all for my two kids. I pay about 480.00 a month for daycare for one child. Its tough to do this as a single parent. To get any kind of help you are stuck in limbo on a waiting list while living from paycheck to paycheck. Meanwhile some neighbors of mine live off of welfare, they live in a bigger house, have two cars, get about 600.00 per month in food stamps, get assistance paying the heating and cooling cost, and could afford a pool pass this last summer for a family of 7. How is that for fair? I work my butt off for my kids to give them what they need to thrive, and give nothing to myself. I shop at the Goodwill for my clothes. People who work hard but connot make ends meet no matter how much they work cannot get help, but people who keep having kids and live off of welfare are living high on the hog. I have seen it first hand by watching my neighbors. "

Sean1 wrote on October 2, 2008 9:36 am:
" You folks are absolutely correct. We don't need to bring up Palin's family or personal life anymore than we need to bring up Biden's abandonment of his two small sons following his wife's death, his plagiarism of speeches or that he misrepresented his academic record on more several occasions.
After all....he is just an old school "experienced" politician. Isn't he? "

Nina wrote on October 2, 2008 9:38 am:
" There's a difference between attacks and commentaries. Everyone knows the difference, whether or not he/she wishes to admit it, between a lack of knowledge and mis-speaking because one wasn't concentrating on that part of what he/she was saying. As I posted elsewhere, Biden was partially correct in the aformentioned statement, in that FDR DID appear on television, but it was in the '30s, not in 1929. Television was in its infancy, and broadcast only to small portions of New York, with the general public not having access to TV sets. I learned this years ago via encyclopedia and confirmed it on the web. But we all realize Biden really does know who was president 'when.' Also, Obama knows how many states there are, but mis-spoke in his earnestness to get a point across. But Palin - the things she's said during interviews are not mis-speaks, you can tell - she really doesn't have a clue, if the subject veers off of what she's been tutored on. I don't understand how anyone could have seen her interview with Couric and not been scared! I suspect in her governing, she has relied heavily upon her husband's assistance, who attends meetings with her. This is NOT natural for a strong woman leader, or a good leader of either gender. Can you imagine Madeline Albright dragging her husband around to her job? I don't think she did. Hillary Clinton not only didn't need her husband to assist her, but at times had to shoo him away. Palin is not VP material, plain and simple, and in fact, her lack of knowledge is downright embarrassing. "

Oh Doug wrote on October 2, 2008 9:42 am:
" John Kerry was a Vietnam veteran who served his country admirably after he enlisted. He was an honorable man who was willing to do what so many people were not in his time. And the Republicans had no problem funding the "Swift Boat Veterans" that attempted to portray his honorable service as something much less than honorable. That's true hate and disgusting politics. Calling Sarah Palin unqualified because she's unqualified is nothing close. "

Jeff wrote on October 2, 2008 9:48 am:
" First of all - what some bloggers put up on the internet does not represent "hate" from the mainstream democrats or major media outlets, so that is an exaggeration. I too have seen no credible sources in the mainstream or representing the democratic party that have in any way attacked her because she has a "special needs child". It's true that every verbal misstep that she makes is keyed in on, and we don't hear as much about those that Obama or Biden make. The reason for that is that we know that Obama is a Harvard law school graduate and that he therefore knows how many states are in the United States. We also know about Biden's experience so when he makes a historical misstatement, we know that he is overall a smart guy who has a working knowledge of foreign relations, governement, etc. With Palin.... we still literally don't know what she does and doesn't know. And it is pertinent. She hasn't had foreign policy experience and why should she - she was a mayor of a town of 7000 and then briefly a governor of state with low population. She hasn't been focused on national issues, let alone international ones. Her selection to be vice president appears to be purely for political reasons, and therefore open to question until it is proven differently. She only gets so many points for her home state experience. Evidence to this point suggests she would be in over her head if she were to become president, and we just lived through 8 years of that, thank you very much. "

RE mr. vandervoft wrote on October 2, 2008 9:49 am:
" One would think you had a crush on Palin. She was asked and put herself into the spotlight. Anyone who runs for public office has to show their personal records to the public. She has ignored this mandate just like some other politicians. Does she have something to hide. She is intimidated by senior people. Do you think someone like the president of iran would take pity on a poor lady? Think about it! If she can't pass muster with her own citizens how do you think she would fare in the real world? I want a leader not a cheerleader. "

Dave wrote on October 2, 2008 9:57 am:
" Republicans perfected the art of character assassination and personal attacks and now they are crying foul? Hahahahhahahaha, that is too funny. "

Standing Ovation wrote on October 2, 2008 10:18 am:
" All the fanfare and adoration, the standing ovations at the Republican convention. When Mrs. Palin said "Ask me anything, You can even play stump the candidate if you wish", the crowd went wild.

So, what's the problem? "

MarkyMark wrote on October 2, 2008 10:26 am:
" President Bush failed miserably with the majority of his cronies he appointed to high level jobs. Most have resigned in disgrace.

Now you have John McCain's first big pick, and it's Sarah Palin. Don't blame Sarah Palin, John. This was your pick. Who are your cabinet picks going to be????? Maybe you can get Rumsfeld out of retirement. "

Dustin wrote on October 2, 2008 10:33 am:
" I just love her couric interview. I don't think once she said a complete rational thought. Palin was a political ploy at the beginning and now is becoming a political joke. Serves the republicans well for trying this curveball. How bout that "McCain Judgement" now????? Simply ridiculous... "

Cathy wrote on October 2, 2008 10:39 am:
" We don't have to question Palin on her daughters or dig dirt on her life. Just stick a microphone on her and let her open her mouth for a bit... its odd how my 7th grader knows more about foreign affairs and the supreme court. And she can just say them right there and doesn't have to "Get back to me!" hahahahahah! "

Are you kidding wrote on October 2, 2008 10:40 am:
" Gov. Palin is simply not qualified. She has been unable- totally unable- to discuss any subject or issue in more than the most superficial of terms. She has been all slogans, catchphrases and snarky remarks. She is the office blowhard. What's frightening me are the people like Doug V. who (seemingly sincerely) are defending her complete lack of both a knowledge base and the intellectual ability to use it. The same people who claim Sen. McCain will be a great decision maker even though his first decision (selecting a running mate) has been stupendously bad. Please please please, convince me by any other means than pointing fingers at their opponents. I need to know why McCain/Palin are a good choice, not why their opponents are a bad one. "

Its true wrote on October 2, 2008 10:43 am:
" A moderator of a debate can certainly show bias, not by the questions asked as they are the same questions asked to both candidates, but by the way the debate is managed. A biased moderator could allow Biden to go over on his time limit, allow him talk over Palin, moderator could cut Sarah off, a moderator could show facial expressions like rolling her eyes or showing disgust on her face at Palins answers. There are many ways a moderator could show bias, however, I don't think she will because the world is watching. On a side note, Gwen has given glowing news about Obama. She has also showed her disdain for Palin. You know some of you would be screaming if they had chosen an obviously right winger for a moderator. As far as reading this on fox news, this story has been all over every major news channel for several days. "

sammi to nina wrote on October 2, 2008 10:48 am:
" Think now, is anyone really completely qualified to do this job?
They can tell you what they want to do, but can they really accomplish it?
As far as spouses go, it seems obvious to me that Obama's wife might run the show and advise him on various subjects as white house advisors do for the President.
Just my personal opionion. "

Third Party wrote on October 2, 2008 10:56 am:
" When will we stop following the crowd and ask for REAL CHANGE? Why not Nader? "

History vs now wrote on October 2, 2008 11:03 am:
" How is it that seems so unforgivable for the Biden screw up about FDR and television from a time 80 years ago when McCain apparently doesn't know the difference between Sunni and Shiite in a war that's going on right now? "

Sam wrote on October 2, 2008 11:34 am:
" Doug, I have been following this campaign pretty closely. I've seen only a few attacks on Sarah Palin because of her pregnant daughter and NO attacks whatsoever regarding her special needs child. Since you're throwing stones about Joe Biden's misstatements about who was president in 1929 and when whether that president appeared on television, it seems only fair to point out those of Gov. Palin; most notably, that she said "thanks but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere", and that she knows foreign policy because she can see Russia from her back door. It also seems fair to point out that Palin had never travelled overseas until this year, since McCain has said repeatedly that Barack Obama never travelled to Iraq until earlier this year. More simply put Doug, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. And to "it's true", you conveniently neglected to mention that (1) Gwen Ifill's book is about black politicians in general rather than specifically about Barack Obama, and (2) The book's publication was announced in July and presumably the Republican Party and the McCain campaign were aware of it long before now. Your statement about Ifill's book is at best a half truth and at worst intellectually dishonest. "

Put Up or Shut Up wrote on October 2, 2008 11:40 am:
" it's true, you claim that Gwen Ifill has given glowing reviews about Obama and showed her disdain for Palin. I don't believe a word of it. I have NEVER, EVER seen Gwen Ifill do anything of the kind so I issue this challenge to you. Come up with verifiable proof that she has done anything of the sort...if you can. Fox News and National Review op ed pieces don't count. "

To Dave wrote on October 2, 2008 11:45 am:
" I don't know if Republicans perfecting the art of character assassination and now they're crying foul is funny as you claim, but it's definitely true. "

re Chip wrote on October 2, 2008 12:03 pm:
" Chip says: " All of the Harvard and Yale grads have done such a better job of governing cuz they're not in it for themselves; they really care. "

George W. Bush, a Yale grad, really cares. "

Sue F. wrote on October 2, 2008 12:05 pm:
" Just in case people didn't know, Gwen Ifill was picked by McCain's campaign for this debate long after they knew or at least should have known about her book. Her book is about black politicians, not about Obama. Did they want her just so they could cry foul when Palin tanked? "

Dont wrote on October 2, 2008 12:41 pm:
" Don't attack Palin for lack of experience but do use it against Obama. Don't attack Palin for 'real people' issues but do seize on the minister of Obama's past. Don't attack the age of McCain but do point out the Biden-Palin age difference. Don't blame Bush for everything but do continue to blame and bash Bill Clinton with everything possible. Do support an unwarranted war whose preemptive need never was established credibly but do attack any sane response for ending it. Do support your party that's ruined the country in so many ways but attack anything thing that represents a change away from failed policy and leadership. Shall we go on? "

Rob wrote on October 2, 2008 12:46 pm:
" I'm so tired of Republicans making excuses for Palin. She is an idiot, to put it bluntly, when it comes to politics. Have you seen her interviews? Good grief. She was only picked because MacCain wanted the female vote. And if I were a female, I would be insulted by that choice. She is going to get destroyed tonight, and the best part is, by herself.

And btw Doug, the depression lasted more than a year and there were TWO Roosevelt presidents, Thodore and Franklin D, the later who was in office in the 30's DURING THE GREAT DEPRESSION. See, its people like you who start spouting off unfactual information and complete ignorance that give Republicans a bad name. You only make yourself look ridiculous when you write your letters to the paper. "

Jona wrote on October 2, 2008 1:00 pm:
" When information began to be disseminated about Sarah Palin's family, Barack Obama issued an order to his campaign. He would fire anyone making comments about the Palin family. After this became known, the attacks on Michelle Obama seem to have abated. Let's see, who has the most personal integrity? Obama or McCain? Rest assured the attacks would have continued against Michelle Obama until, finally, the McCain campaign was shamed out of their actions. "

ron wrote on October 2, 2008 1:09 pm:
" I for one will be glad when this election is over !! Then we can just go about bashing one person, whoever is unlucky enouugh to win !! "

RJ wrote on October 2, 2008 1:44 pm:
" Doug, what is so unfair about the comments made about Palin,then you turn
around & start in on Biden, etc. Going to be in politic's you better be
able to shoulder the comments, as well, as your dear GOP party knows how
to hit low. That is one reason I left the Republican party. Now look at
the mess we are in because Bush/cheney were able to cover up the truth about themselves. Better to tell the truth about this gal now, then find
out later that she isn't the change we need. "

Hop wrote on October 2, 2008 1:54 pm:
" I have seen no attacks on Palin that involved her special needs child. What is there to attack?
I think it's valid to criticize her for raising a daughter who became pregnant out of wedlock at the age of 17. But only because Palin is an advocate of “abstinence only” with regard to sex education, and this is an obvious poor result of such a stance.
All other criticisms I’ve heard are also valid. She is running for elected office! The voters have the right to know what kind of person she is and where she is strong or weak, competent or inept. That’s part of the deal! As Truman said, “If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.” For Palin, if she can’t stand the criticism, she needs to get out of politics.
I think folks like Mr. Vandervort take issue with all this is because it does smack of “piling on” with the amount of criticism. But that is only because she has provided the public with so very much to criticize. "

Late ODay wrote on October 2, 2008 3:13 pm:
" @Nina. Though I largely agree with your defense, I should point out that Biden never said "1929". Check the quote. That was an RNC enhancement. They are evidently unaware that there were subsequent crashes related to 1929 all the way up though the early 40's. And though I tend to think Biden blurted out "television" when he meant "radio". Golly, if that's the worst they have on him -- a trivial slip of the tongue -- I'd say they are in dire straits. "

Gee wrote on October 2, 2008 3:30 pm:
" I'm not sure - having an 'average' person in the White House seems like a great idea to me!! Enough of the rich, career politicians who just get in to 'serving' the public to pad their own pocketbooks. What could an 'average' person do in the White House?? How about - bring some down-to-earth knowledge about what citizen's lives are really like?? How about - put an end to all the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" political maneuvering in DC?? The only chance we have of real-life American values EVER taking over in DC is to have a 'politician' that doesn't talk-the-talk. We need someone who will git 'er done!!!

Go Sarah - take a bite out of that career politician Biden!! "

Julie Schmit-Albin wrote on October 2, 2008 4:03 pm:
" Right, Ken Haar the family values candidate. Tell it to families in Lincoln who opposed their city dollars going to Planned Parenthood year after year while Haar voted for it as a city councilman. You will have many here dispute that he "stands up for families" with his support of aborting those most innocent among us. How many more state tax dollars will he advocate going to Planned Parenthood of Nebr/Council Bluffs, the entity his wife, Chris Funk, has run for years. "

Mindless Robot wrote on October 2, 2008 4:27 pm:
" Step One: Have debate rules changed to help Palin.
Step Two: Intimidate moderator of the debate.
Step Three: Make excuses for candidate's showing...before the debate even happens.

It's pretty clear that even McCain's camp knows they have a time bomb on their hands and they are doing anything they can do to subvert the debate and hide Palin from scrutiny.

The bar has been set so low for Palin that even if she's able to string together some words to form a coherent sentence, it's a huge huge victory for her. She's in way over her head.

I think the United States can do better and deserves better. "

whyDidPalinsInterviewsGoSouth wrote on October 2, 2008 5:00 pm:
" ...because the DC political machine has tried to change her already - and brainwash her with all the 'facts' and 'happenings' as DC sees them. That is exactly NOT what we want or need. Please, just give us the real Sarah for this debate. Her inexperience in World affairs, Supreme court rulings, etc. don't mean squat. How many of you knew the difference between Iraq and Iran before the wars?? How many Supreme court rulings do you know of (other than Roe v Wade)?? Does that matter??? NO!!

And - why is everyone AGAINST having a common Joe six-pack in the White House?? I think that would be the best thing to happen to America!! Get someone in there who will say NO to keeping the fat cat gravy train rolling and YES to making everyday US citizen's lives better. "

Mrs. Albin-Schmidt wrote on October 2, 2008 5:59 pm:
" There is sooooo much more to family values than abortions. Do you realize that of all the services done by Planned Parenthood Nebraska & Council Bluffs, only 3.3 percent of those services done are abortions? Do you realize how many abortions they prevent with their family planning services? It's absolutely abhorrent to say someone does not have family values if they support funding an agency that provides so many services to so many low income women and men. "

Palin facts wrote on October 2, 2008 7:27 pm:
" Palin= ineloquent,incoherent,incurious about the world in general,ill-informed about foreign policy and the Supreme court, -need I go on?I'm a woman but after the initial pleasant surprise of her nomination I was horrified to realize that if this woman is supposed to represent my gender she was playing right into the very stereotype that we've been trying to change.No wonder she's so popular with republican men because they can then say "well,look at Palin-she couldn't just perform -just proves no woman is really qualified for a leadership role".The McCain camp's sequestering of her further proves the point! "

Zoomie wrote on October 2, 2008 7:29 pm:
" WhyDidPalin...GoSouth - you're joking, right? Off the top of my head, no book, no Wiki...Marbury vs Madison, Brown v Bd of Ed, Plessy v Ferguson, Dred Scott, Bush v Gore, Griswald v CT...And my favorite, though I don't remember the whole name: Exxon v (??Valdez??)! That's the Supreme Court case handed down just 3 months ago, re: the Exxon Valdiz oil spill in Alaska! One that Palin herself talked about in June on Alaskan TV stations, but apparently forgot all about by October! And sorry, but sitting in the White House, access to all that intell, control of our nuke weapons, and facing Putin, I do NOT want "Joe SixPack"!!! I want the smartest, most curious and intelligent person we can get! Palin may or may not be stupid, I don't know. But I do know she is ignorant, and apparently trying to be proud of it! You can't see Russia from her front door (she's hundreds and hundreds of miles from Alaska's west coast), she's worth over $1.2 million, she is incredibly uncurious and disinterested in the world around her (and haven't we had enough of that with Dubya?). Oh, and she hasn't a clue what the US Constitution really means: in the Couric interview, she first said she thinks Roe v Wade should be overturned and she's totally against abortion. But then she said she would NEVER support ANY law that sent a woman to jail for having an abortion. Then she said she DOES believe there is a Constitutional right to privacy, but that each state should decide for itself how much privacy to protect and how! Uh, NO! If its a Constitutional right, each state does NOT get to decide for itself! There is a single and NATIONAL right, equally available to all Americans! I would hope a potential US President would know that! "

Reader wrote on October 2, 2008 8:01 pm:
" We don't have to put down Sarah Palin because of her family life. All we need to do is listen to her for 10 minutes, and we realize this lady does not have the experience or the know-how to lead this country! In reply to the person who said Senator Obama doesn't have the experience: When we compare Obama with Palin, guess what? Obama comes way out on top!! While Senator McCain may be a fine man, his age needs to be taken into consideration especially since he chose Palin as his running mate. Do we really want to take the chance of her becoming President? I think not!! "

To Sean1 wrote on October 2, 2008 8:09 pm:
" I would like to know where you have the idea that Biden abandoned his children after his first wifes death? Biden has never has a residence in Washington D.C. because he took the train from Deleware every day to make sure he was there for his children. Get your facts straight before you open your mouth, but somehow I doubt it. You just like to spread the same lies and talking points as the republican party "

Re Sean1 wrote on October 2, 2008 11:43 pm:
" Only a Republican would be capable of such callous,vicious and cruel lies.Anybody who knows Biden's history knows he almost refused to take up his senatorial job because his boys were in the hospital at that time,and only did so when his sister could stay with them during the day.He has always taken the train from Delaware to be with his boys every night.But then-you wouldn't know anything about compassion. "

Crystal Smith wrote on October 3, 2008 4:17 am:
" I can tell you exactly why people are dropping off their teenage children at hospitals. It's because of the way that CPS conducts themselves. I have had a terrible with my 21 year old son since he was 15. He was diagnosed with bi-polar, adhd, and oppositional defiance. He pushed me down when I was 6 months pregnant, and he called the police on my husband when he restrained him from hurting me. I tried to take him to Bryan hospital, but they sent me away and said he wasn't a danger to himself and had no concern about me and my baby. I had to drive him to a hospital in Kearney for an evaluation which was very hard, but one of my best friends took me. They told me then that he was unparentable and that he should be institutionalized but that we had to go with the least restrictive option as possible. He developed a motor tick from the medicine they put him on and then refused to take it. When he became a ward of the state due to violence in school, the county attorney held my hand and said "We just have to get you some help." Social services couldn't have been less help. They treated me terrible, and when I asked to get him back on anti-depressants they said no. Even though I tried to explain to my son that it was the medicine for adhd that caused him the tick he wouldn't take anything. The doctors didn't care that he got a tick and said he probably had it all the time. Which he doesn't now. Things had escalated to the point I had to kick him out of my house because he was so abusive to my little girls. They put him with my mom and I begged them not to. He started using drugs and now has a child in this wonderful foster care system. Which they will not allow me to see because I kicked him out to protect me and my children when he was 17. Social Services has this coming and it is time that they actually do their jobs! You can't ever get a hold of them and they are always out of the office. It is time that these people step up and do what is best for the child instead of what is the easiest for them. "

Ken wrote on October 3, 2008 6:18 am:
" To Lets Be HONEST: Glad you asked the questions. No doubt about it Obama and Biden are so unqualified.

And to those posting that say Palin is not hated by the liberals. Go back and read your own posts and the others spouting their venom. I have never read so much hatred for one person in my life. Calling her a moron, stupid, deceitful, selfish, and uninformed. You haven't spouted your hatred for even Sadam or Bin Laden. Where is your hated for these dictators and murderers? "

Unqualified for job. wrote on October 3, 2008 7:13 am:
" To Doug Vandervort,

Where is this perception coming from? After the VP debate last night, the pundits treated her as if she had won, or at the very least, stroked her for "holding her own." Far from it, she looked like an idiot.

She is completely unqualified for the job. It was obvious in last night's debate that she doesn't even know what the Constitution says about the powers of the Vice President. We are not vetting a 7th grader for a geography bee, we are looking for the next Vice President of a very large superpower. One heartbeat away from taking over the office from a 72 year old cancer survivor.

What I don't understand is why everyone treats her with kid-gloves. Her "folksy" speech is not disarming, it is alarming. Her politics are incredibly divisive, and her continuous reference to her "executive" experience is akin to Nebraska electing a governor because the person was voted in and reigned as Homecoming queen at her high school.

I'm sick of people electing officials because the person is "a regular person." The forefathers of this country were explicit that only the best should lead. It wasn't until the general election process began to erode this early principle that we have started this downward spiral to mediocrity. That's right, I believe that the allowing "Joe six-pack" to vote is NOT a good idea. Think about the decisions "Joe six-pack" made to get to where Joe thinks a six-pack is his closest friend. "

Crystal Smith wrote on October 3, 2008 8:35 am:
" Love the character assaination comment! You hit it right on the nose!

Now let's stop sending money to Iraq and help the American people and buy made in the USA! "

ted wrote on October 3, 2008 9:52 am:
" Why is Palin unqualified to run for national office because she is only a governor, but Scott Kleeb is "qualified" to run for Senator when he has had 2 jobs in his life, ranch hand and part time teacher, and no government experience? The Palin critics are hypocrits. "

To Crystal Smith wrote on October 3, 2008 10:24 am:
" Thank you for sharing your very touching story. This is not the first time I have heard frustrating stories from parents who have attempted to get help for their children, knowing that a horrible incident was imminent, yet were rebuffed by the legal and social service communities because no crime had yet been committed, or the child's rights would be infringed upon. Surely, in all our wisdom, we can offer these families a better system of dealing with these serious issues. "

Dear Ted wrote on October 3, 2008 10:59 am:
" Being a governor doesn't disqualify Palin from running for national office. Being unable to answer a question about what newspapers or other periodicals she reads, or Supreme Court decisions she disagrees with, other that Roe v. Wade, should. "

P. Robert wrote on October 3, 2008 11:06 am:
" The "pig with the lipstick" did pretty well when someone wasn't editing her interview to portray her a certain way. If the liberals want me to vote for OBAMA then you need to stop saying Palin is unqualified. She has more experience than Obama when it comes to leading anything....ignoring that fact makes you liberals sound like you have just been drinking the "kool aid". Someone please explain to me how anyone can think that OBAMA has more experience than Palin? Biden, yes.....Obama no. If there was anything to point to, Obama wouldn't let us forget it. Fortunately, he has done nothing. I'll take my chances with the unqualified VP over the unqualified President. "

Still unqualified. wrote on October 3, 2008 1:56 pm:
" Your argument would be lucid if it wasn't for the fact the comparison by *independent* voters (I'm no stinkin' liberal) is Palin to Obama. McCain, statistically, is much closer to assuming room temperature than most would like to admit. Age + cancer . . . Palin would be President very quickly if McCain is elected. I would never wish it on McCain, but it simply is the reality of the world.

The reality is that this would be a much better election if it was McCain vs. Biden for President and Obama vs. Palin for VP. "

BothWays wrote on October 3, 2008 3:41 pm:
" Obama has no experience but we like to quote is voting record as 90 percent this or that. How do you get a voting record, how do you get as high as 90 percent, without experience. Can't have your kool aid both ways. "

To Ken wrote on October 3, 2008 7:45 pm:
" Since when was calling someone uninformed hateful?I'm not a liberal-I'm an evangelical woman who gets more convinced every time Palin opens her mouth she's uniformed.Do I hate her? No.I wouldn't mind going out and having coffee with her.She and I agree on a few of the same values.But do I want her as my vice president and perchance president?Absolutely not!She's without a doubt unqualified for that role and will put our country at further risk. "

It IS a big deal though wrote on October 6, 2008 2:15 pm:
" Saying Palin's teenage daughter's pregnancy is no "big deal" is far from the truth. Any teenager getting pregnant should be considered a big deal. But people targeting Palin's daughter has to do with the fact that Palin adamently espouses "abstinence only" sex education. The fact that her own child can't or won't abide by the "abstinence only" rule speaks volumes.

As a side note to "Its true," "unrelevant" is not a word. Why is it that so many Repuglicans cannot form a complete sentence, write coherently, spell correctly, and/or use proper grammar? I'm guessing you managed to buy your way through all those pesky English classes. "