'Life Chain' lines up against abortion
By ZACH PLUHACEK / Lincoln Journal Star
“The Holocaust of abortion is like Hitler reaching out of the grave to win,” said David Ford, a 70-year-old member of Christ Temple Church.
He and hundreds of other anti-abortion protesters lined O Street in a “Life Chain” Sunday.
Some explained their presence using personal stories, like 38-year-old Marie Kleinschmit, who stood near 33rd Street.
“I used to be a liberal pro-choicer,” she said. Then she got pregnant and saw her ultrasound. “There was a baby there at six weeks.”
Nearby, Father Sean Kilcawley offered his philosophy:
“I love all people, and a person is a person from the moment of conception.”
There was no counter protest.
Father Chris Kubat said he wished he didn’t need to protest.
“I pray for the day we don’t have to stand out here and pray for this issue,” he said.
He and others in the chain said they believe pro-choice individuals have “hard hearts.”
Even the hardest hearts can soften, Kubat said.
“I feel bad for all the children that have been lost,” said 46-year-old Dawn Daarud.
Dick Zierke, 57, was there to fulfill his religious duty: “We’re just doing what we’re supposed to do as committed Catholics.”
Christina Hanus, 12, stood with her family on North Cotner Boulevard.
“To me,” she said, “abortion is like a murder, and people should be able to have the choice of whether they live or not.”
Then there was 19-year-old Seth Brauning, who simply hoped to hear about more mothers giving birth. He shared a story about a woman at his college.
“She had just found out she was pregnant ... and thankfully,” he said, “she will be saving the baby.”
Reach Zach Pluhacek at 473-7306 or zpluhacek@journalstar.com.

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GasMiser wrote on October 6, 2008 7:28 am:
... wrote on October 6, 2008 8:28 am:
breches wrote on October 6, 2008 8:29 am:
Ethical1 wrote on October 6, 2008 8:38 am:
to GMP wrote on October 6, 2008 8:43 am:
I think (and Father Kubat, please correct me if I misconstrue your remarks) that the reference to "hard hearts" related more to spiritual openess than to emotional status. "Hard hearts" I believe comes from the scripture relating to the exedus of the Jews from Egypt when Pharoah had his "heart hardened" to listening to the request of the Jews/God (and thus leading up to more plagues and more signs and miracles of God's favor of the Jews). This scripture, taken contextually, refers to Pharaoh not being open to God's desires for the Jewish people. While many would argue within the church that this would be an appropriate parallel to pro-choice people not listening to God's desire of having child taken to term and thus entirely appropriate to use in discussion of abortion, I think this kind of terminology doesn't belong in a discussion of abortion as it can obviously be misconstrued and should be left out of an emotionally charged subject. "
hard hearts wrote on October 6, 2008 9:13 am:
DrFeelGood wrote on October 6, 2008 9:30 am:
Vern wrote on October 6, 2008 9:37 am:
JB wrote on October 6, 2008 9:51 am:
and you wrote on October 6, 2008 9:55 am:
annoyed wrote on October 6, 2008 10:08 am:
ItsAboutLove wrote on October 6, 2008 10:11 am:
And I've seen 3D ultrasounds. Its amazing how much detail you can see as early as 6-8 weeks. The arms and legs and head and little body. Its not a "ball of cells" its a tiny persons growing. "
prochoice wrote on October 6, 2008 10:12 am:
figures... wrote on October 6, 2008 10:18 am:
Hi pot, I'm kettle. I believe the little boys that were molested throughout the country and the world should have had the choice to not be. Thoughts? "
Rose wrote on October 6, 2008 10:21 am:
Pro-Choice wrote on October 6, 2008 10:26 am:
Another one read me the riot act for helping a relative who was a single mother of a three year old, nine months pregnant and sick with a kidney infection. "You're just supporting her bad choices to have children outside of marriage" the woman told me. It was a Saturday. She had spent the morning protesting at an abortion clinic.
In my humble opinion, more lives would be enriched if these people poured their energy into helping single mothers and their children and supporting public policy that does the same. "
Just maybe wrote on October 6, 2008 10:28 am:
ProLifer and proud of it wrote on October 6, 2008 10:47 am:
Personally, I don't think pro-choice followers are hard-hearted, but rather ignorant of when life begins. I think most who abdicate pro-choice believe that life begins when it's convenient for the mother. Absolutely it must be a hard decision to make for a woman to walk into a clinic, knowing that she is about to kill a 'baby', not just a mass of cells. "
RAS wrote on October 6, 2008 10:54 am:
CTB wrote on October 6, 2008 11:11 am:
Christian for Choice wrote on October 6, 2008 11:16 am:
James wrote on October 6, 2008 11:36 am:
Jen C wrote on October 6, 2008 11:38 am:
Jack wrote on October 6, 2008 11:51 am:
jab wrote on October 6, 2008 11:57 am:
have adopted wrote on October 6, 2008 12:12 pm:
Promote wrote on October 6, 2008 12:13 pm:
Eric wrote on October 6, 2008 12:23 pm:
MEK wrote on October 6, 2008 12:34 pm:
To jack wrote on October 6, 2008 12:34 pm:
But, it would also be irresponsible to ignore the end-result of not listening to the abstinence message. I think it would be best that when picketing against abortion, they should be emphasizing the other options (adoption, assistance programs, etc) rather than focusing on how terrible abortion is. "
nemo wrote on October 6, 2008 12:39 pm:
ItsAboutLove wrote on October 6, 2008 12:44 pm:
And Ethical, educate yourself about fetal development, cause the heart starts to beat at 18 days after conception. 3D Ultrasounds show a lot more detail as early as 6-8 weeks you can see a tiny little human being growing -- with tiny arms and tiny legs and a little head. "
MY BODY MY CHOICE wrote on October 6, 2008 12:47 pm:
connie wrote on October 6, 2008 12:49 pm:
I am not your incubator. "
Lisa wrote on October 6, 2008 12:52 pm:
Don't you DARE tell me what I can and can not do to MY body! EVER!!! "
E Jr wrote on October 6, 2008 1:13 pm:
eddie wrote on October 6, 2008 1:16 pm:
Two things wrote on October 6, 2008 1:25 pm:
Number two, how can a "choice" be abused? If I have 10 abortions, every one of them is my choice. What is an acceptable number then?
It all boils down to the same thing--whether I have one abortion or 10, it's MY business, NOT YOURS! "
TinkBelle wrote on October 6, 2008 1:28 pm:
People balk over the numbers of those killed in wars...(yes, war IS a tragedy and the witness of Evil in this world). How trite when compared to the number of those killed in abortions in our own "safe haven", the United States. Ethical, don't preach about what is involved in a decision to abort. Often women are coerced, threatened into having abortions. IF this wasn't "LEGAL", people like myself and millions more I'm sure would not have been had our babies ripped from us either by "well intentioned" persons, ie parents, spouses or significant others. Do Not be Deceived. Others do make the decision on their own. I've also know those who have used it as birth control...that is pathetic. One I knew went 4 times in 2 years. Planned Parenthood offered free abortions at the time, and she didn't "want to" use birth control b/c she wasn't that kind of girl. Might have been the pot she smoked. Who knows. Thank God "fanatics" (LOL!!! OK, if you say do:) like us influence legislation. I shudder to think where we would be if we didn't. We are on the slippery slope as it is b/c lack of morality. From me, an "old fashioned" "left over" "hippie":) Flower child was my mantra.
I held a 16 week spontaneous aborted little girl in the palm of my hands. THAT was the moment I was forever changed.
It IS Murder. "
NOTICE wrote on October 6, 2008 1:35 pm:
Here's a hypothetical for all of you:
Your daughter gets raped and becomes pregnant. Do you feel she should have this child? Are you willing to help raise a child that was created out of such a violent and sick act? Oh, maybe she should just put the child up for adoption so it can be raised by the state.
We know none of you will actually lift a finger to help except to call her a sinner... "
funny wrote on October 6, 2008 1:51 pm:
John wrote on October 6, 2008 1:52 pm:
Outside the Box wrote on October 6, 2008 2:06 pm:
As much as I'd like to pay to raise these kids, I'd rather have the anti-abortion folks address the root of the problem: using birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies. "
pro-choice opinion wrote on October 6, 2008 2:12 pm:
SNB wrote on October 6, 2008 2:58 pm:
Shut it wrote on October 6, 2008 3:16 pm:
Oh, and people are kidding themselves if they think the Republicans are going to overturn Roe vs. Wade. They are using pro-lifers for votes and laughing at them behind closed doors.
They manipulate the voter that is concerned about this, make promises that will never happen, and in the process, use the power those voters just gave them to "stack" the Supreme Court. They're not "stacking" that court for you and your interested, they are "stacking" it for their lobbyist and personal interest that has nothing whatsoever with abortion.
This basically "illegal" practice of "stacking" the courts goes directly against what the founders of this nation designed it to do. That being, the courts complete and total separation and insulation from the Executive and Legislative parts of government. These parties both have completely abandoned this principle. This lead to such Supreme Court decisions as letting private corporations have the legal right to come to your home, purchase it at pennies on the dollar, hand you an eviction notice and put up a parking lot for their shopping center. By believing these Republican promise markers about abortion and letting them utilize your power as a voter, you've allowed a very unequal view of our Constitution to take place at the Judicial level of our government and that lopsided view lead to decision such as the one I just describe. You didn't realize you were being manipulated, and you don't realize you still are. And the price we've paid for that manipulation was the loss of a great deal of our Constitutional rights in another area, very common by the way.
The Republican and Democratic parties will never, but ever overturn it, but will go against you in many other ways with your unknowing help in the judicial part of our government, which clearly is now as messed up from this type of policy as our economy is.
Btw, Cindy McCain and Laura Bush both have publicly stated they are against overturning Roe vs Wade. Another possible reason why it hasn't and won't happen. "
Im wondering... wrote on October 6, 2008 3:18 pm:
Pro-Choice for ever wrote on October 6, 2008 3:21 pm:
To Pro-lifer and proud of it wrote on October 6, 2008 3:24 pm:
I know that was exaggerating, but people come on. Being pro-Choice is not pro-Murder. Its understanding that their are circumstances that need to be taken account for before a judgement is made. Also the over-turning of Roe v Wade begins the slippery slope of taking away a woman's right to birth control. Think of that? For the record I am an adopted child who values that I was born. I am thankful to the people who took me in and really walked the talk of being good Christians.
"
ah yes wrote on October 6, 2008 3:29 pm:
To Jen C wrote on October 6, 2008 3:38 pm:
peb wrote on October 6, 2008 3:39 pm:
Confused wrote on October 6, 2008 3:39 pm:
and Dick says it all: “We’re just doing what we’re supposed to do as committed Catholics.” Its amazing what the Catholic Church can convince people to do as a "religious duty." Think for yourself and let others do the same. "
Ignignokt wrote on October 6, 2008 4:05 pm:
Others mention encouraging parents to seek alternatives to abortion. Well, it seems to me that most, if not all, Nebraskans have been made aware of the recently passed 'safe haven law'. If the pregnant party does not wish to keep the baby, they could leave it at a hospital, and allow the state to find a loving home for the baby.
I guess we can consider ourselves lucky that such great minds as Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, all of the founding fathers, etc., as well as artists like Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Mozart, etc. were all born before the age of abortion. "
Im an American wrote on October 6, 2008 4:39 pm:
social worker wrote on October 6, 2008 4:39 pm:
i am a social worker and once you have worked my job and seen the result of unwanted children YOU HAVE NO SAY...... I see the horrible treatment that children endure by parents who cant or dont want to care for them. THere are not enough foster or adoptive homes to house all these children. THese poor kids are born drug addicted with mental, emotional, and physical disabilities.... either they are given to the state to raise or they end up being the criminals in our community in a few years.
YES.,.. many of these unplanned pregnacies would have been better off terminated for the sake of the child and society!!!!! "
sue wrote on October 6, 2008 4:40 pm:
Kristine wrote on October 6, 2008 4:46 pm:
Incidentally, to the poster who asks if any of us have seen the late term abortion with the 'baby' stabbed through the head........you saw that in propaganda used by extreme religious fundamentalists. If you believe this to be some kind of norm, I assume you also don't have tv. "
Rey wrote on October 6, 2008 4:52 pm:
To Im Wondering wrote on October 6, 2008 10:20 pm:
To Funny wrote on October 7, 2008 12:50 am:
jo wrote on October 7, 2008 7:43 am:
CR wrote on October 7, 2008 8:25 am:
I wrote on October 7, 2008 9:37 am:
To Ignignokt wrote on October 7, 2008 9:42 am:
MOM wrote on October 7, 2008 10:10 am:
Become a Foster parent wrote on October 7, 2008 10:38 am:
American you say wrote on October 7, 2008 10:40 am:
J wrote on October 7, 2008 11:19 am:
These people should really be out volunteering or spending their time doing something that actually makes a difference. "
pro-SAFE- CHOICE wrote on October 7, 2008 11:36 am:
ANd to all the people that wrote saying with the what if it were YOUR DAUGHTER theories....
What if it were your daughter,niece,daughters best friend, female best friend...and they were scared to tell someone they had gotten pregnant by accident(for fear of their family or church telling them what a bad human being they are to have had sex before marriage- or worse yet, kick them out of the house), or by rape...and they CHOSE to get an abortion.
Tell me...would you rather have them doing it in a LEGAL, sterile, SAFE environment with a licensed doctor(with a trained staff and hospital rights), or in the back of some alley, car, or hotel room with someone "claiming" that he has "done this thousands of times"??
And when that girl/woman has that ILLEGAL abortion and ends up bleeding to death somewhere because of the "doctor" who has "done this thousands of times", leaves her in that hotel room so as not to be caught...are you pro-NO SAFE CHOICE lifers going to be screaming about how HER LIFE was not as valuable as that "tadpole" she was carrying? And will you be telling everyone how she deserved to die because she was sinning by having sex before marriage and then having an abortion??
And if you answered yes to that last question...YOU shouldn't be allowed to have children. Whether one wants to believe it or not, there is still many "god-fearing" families out there that will put there daughter out on the street or some far away town to have the baby(and force them to give it up) to save the "family name" from being tarnished.
Making abortions illegal will not stop them from being performed. It will just be the nasty, make a quick buck, black market "doctors" who will be giving them. Is that REALLY what you would want for your daughter, niece, best friend, or your daughters best friend?? REALLY?
I am not pro abortion. I am pro LEGAL AND SAFE CHOICE. "
give me a break wrote on October 7, 2008 11:55 am:
Hmm, I resent the pro-abortion crowd taking over the term, "pro-choice" when they don't consider adoption, abstenance, or birth control ahead of time choices, or allowing citizens to make school choice. Lets face it, a vast number of abortions are on children, children who are not emotionally ready to engage in sexual behavior. The proper "choice" is to allow them to develop properly and then when they are adults they can engage in this behavior when they are emotionally ready for the consequences.
A lot of you constantly bash on Christians or other religious people on this issue. Just look at the philosophy rather than the spiritiaul aspects, abstaining from sex until married solves a vast number of social ills. A lot the ills that you are all complaining about that you say abortion fixes. There is a much better choice to make that causes far less emotional, economic, or other damage. "
funny again wrote on October 7, 2008 12:05 pm:
While I dont agree with the tactics of this protest group, they have a right to do it just like the "dont kill the mass murder in the gas chamber" crowd has a right to protest. "
use your head wrote on October 7, 2008 12:49 pm:
most are outside of marriage wrote on October 7, 2008 2:01 pm:
no one is pro abortion wrote on October 7, 2008 2:20 pm:
Jen C wrote on October 7, 2008 2:38 pm:
re Planned Parenthood wrote on October 7, 2008 4:02 pm:
Wow Give Me a Break wrote on October 7, 2008 4:48 pm:
Since Planned Parenthood is the "evil abortionist" in this area, I pulled this from their website: "Whether you choose adoption or to become a parent, if you plan to continue your pregnancy, you should begin prenatal care as soon as possible." "
Ridiculous wrote on October 7, 2008 4:53 pm:
Funny, the first leader of this country owned lots of slaves. Completely irrelevant to today. "
Nina wrote on October 7, 2008 5:13 pm:
In Lincoln wrote on October 7, 2008 5:25 pm: