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Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 - 12:32:21 am CDT

David Moshman’s Aug. 30 community column seems logical, but it deceptively diverts attention from the main reason why affirmative action is so necessary for overcoming our unfortunate legacies of racial and gender discrimination. It is not at all just a matter of diversity; it is a matter of fairness.

The fact is that most of the “objective” measures we use to assess others are not fully objective. There is overwhelming evidence showing that test scores, faculty evaluations, interview skills and personal communications depend, partially but significantly, on one’s cultural background.

All other things equal, an upper-middle-class white male will perform better on standard exams, will use the more appropriate verbal and body language, and will appear to “fit” the job better than someone of a different social or cultural background. Because race, gender and ethnic background are systematically related to the social, gender and ethnic biases in standard tests, school grades, job assessment procedures, the sincere personal judgments of interviewers and many other so-called “objective” measures commonly used to qualify people, it is also true that race, gender and ethnic background are perfectly valid criteria for a college or employer to apply in seeking to accurately judge a person’s true expected performance.

Justice Lewis Powell noted exactly that in California Regents vs. Bakke; what that case prohibited was absolute quotas and completely separate acceptance procedures. Prohibiting reasonable and objective adjustments of faulty and biased assessment procedures, as the Nebraska ballot issue would do, is a step away from fairness.

The “diversity issue” is a different issue, and it was used to reaffirm the California Regents vs. Bakke decision by the much more conservative Supreme Court in 2003. But, as the original Supreme Court decision made clear, diversity is not the only, or even the most important, justification for affirmative action.

The Nebraska initiative, by claiming objectivity and fairness, merely continues the cultural oppression of our white male society: You’d better learn to think, act and look like a white male, or you will not have equal rights.

Hendrik Van den Berg, LincolnNot just her safety at risk

In response to Sara Graham’s letter (Aug. 27) regarding the seat belt law, I’m not pro or con on the value of passing a law to make this a primary violation, but her thought that it is her choice and does not affect anyone else’s safety but her own has no merit.

She mentions herself you could be thrown from your car if you are not wearing your seat belt. Logic would tell you that if the driver was ejected from his or her vehicle, the operator no longer has control of said vehicle, obviously putting others’ safety at risk if the vehicle is still in motion.

Randy Wilson, Lincoln

Race isn’t important

There will be those who don’t want to vote for Barack Obama because of his mixed blood. If the truth were known, most of us are mixed blood of some kind. Way back in time, my great-grandparents were on the Trail of Tears from Georgia to Arkansas.

My kin were in the Civil War, mixed blood both of them, father and son. They were rebels and fought for the south. My grandmother had Native blood in her, but how much nobody knows. People were ashamed of being part Native not too long ago; now it seems some are ashamed to put a good man in office because he is of mixed blood.

I would make a guess that more than a third of the population of the United States is of mixed blood if they would admit it. I’m part Cherokee. The United States is a melting pot of all races. I bet the mixed blood and other races outnumber the Anglos, so the day of the white supreme race are numbered, if not over, for the United States.

I vote for the man, not the party. I want to see our troops home. We have troops scattered all over the world. Do you realize what that costs the taxpayer, and in lives. The now-single mothers without husbands.

Our government had the knowledge to stop the Sept. 11, 2001, attack but let it slip by. How long would it take for the Mideast to settle down if we just pulled out and let them fight it out? Let them spend their money instead of ours. We are not making friends trying to play world cop.

I don’t care who Obama’s daddy was. He will get my vote.

Joe Smith, Johnson

Peace through strength

Regarding the letter “Like war? Vote McCain” (LJS, Sept. 3): I am not an expert on history, but I believe several European countries tried to negotiate with Adolf Hitler. Where did that take us?

I will cast my vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin, not for war, but rather for peace through strength. As a veteran, stating that a POW likes war is an insult to all vets.

Leland Foote, Lincoln

Choice of Palin insulting

I find Sen. John McCain’s choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as running mate insulting.

What, Sen. McCain, qualifies this woman to go toe to toe with such volatile foreign leaders as Vladimir Putin and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? Her bachelor’s degree in journalism (her highest degree completed), or her experience as a local sportscaster? To attempt to entice those voters inspired by the accomplishments of Sen. Hillary Clinton with a woman whose resume boasts such accomplishments as “Miss Alaska runner-up,” “PTA member” and “hockey mom” suggests that McCain views women as little more than window dressing, and that one is just as good as another.

This viewpoint is an antiquated one, which citizens of the 21st century have abandoned as ridiculous.

Bonnie Fitzgerald, Omaha

Rocky road ahead

Americans feel the solitary confinement of credit dependence, one paycheck from catastrophe. Outrageous credit card rates, variable mortgage rates and payday advances have created a “beggar my neighbor” predator society in which the powerful prey upon the weak. The government is your enemy till you need a friend. Deregulation hasn’t helped the little guy. Credit card interest rates were regulated until the Supreme Court allowed South Dakota to remove them.

Finance has replaced manufacturing as the fulcrum of our society. Unions represent only 7 percent of the work force. The credit system, carefully crafted by lobbyists over the past 30 years, like a giant slow-moving glacier may be descending into an abyss.

Americans have a sharecropper relationship with their creditors. Paying their bills is beyond their means. Over the past decade, Congress steadily deregulated credit scams and made it more difficult for people to declare bankruptcy.

The goal of corporations is profit. The goals of government are far more complex. By outsourcing government to private contractors, President Bush has substituted corporate profit for the public welfare.

The Bush system of corporate democracy has privatized the profits of government spending through capitalist cronyism but socialized the risk to the taxpayer.

Creative government accounting and off-budget spending would send everyone to prison in the private sector. On the other hand, perhaps Ken Lay and the boys shared their ideas with the government. Today, three-fourths of the American people think we are headed in the wrong direction economically.

American politics is dominated by trivia and misinformation. If the past eight years is prologue to the future, America faces a very rocky road. If a politician means what he says and says what he means, we had better pay more attention to what he says.

This election may be decided by issues, personalities, party labels or race. I hope we get it right.

Roger L. Green, Scottsbluff

Birth control an issue

Watching CNN on Monday, the issue of Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter was discussed by a panel of experts. One point made clearly by CNN contributor Bill Bennett was that the teen was going to “keep the baby.”

Then a CNN reporter in Alaska discussed what people were saying there about the issue. She included that Palin was a strong supporter of teaching only abstinence as birth control in schools.

Bennett admonished the reporter that she was politicizing the issue.

So, it’s okay for him to politicize the issue of “keeping the baby” (anti-abortion), but the issue of the federal government only allowing public schools to teach abstinence as birth control to the peril of losing federal funding is off limits?

While I agree with Sen. Barack Obama’s comments aired at the same time that “candidates’ families are off limits,” I think the right better not make an issue about “keeping the baby” if they don’t want all the studies, statistics and other data that show teaching only abstinence doesn’t work made a major issue in the campaign.

Steve Poots, Seward


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Old WayNew Way wrote on September 7, 2008 7:40 am:
" This country has stopped countless more wars through diplomacy than it could ever hope to win in combat. (i.e. Russian missile crisis) Nobody can doubt the noble cause of WWII, and it's veterans. However we are not fighting such a noble cause today. The reference to Hitler is about as relevant to the discussion as John McCain himself is. "

MarkyMark wrote on September 7, 2008 8:37 am:
" Not sure what point you are trying to make, Leland. Is it because negotiations with Hitler failed, that we shouldn't bother negotiating with anyone?

Why stereotype every situation? I am glad you are not on the cabinet. It is shear insanity in this world, not to attempt negotiations first on every potential international problem. My guess is that you are only upset because Dick Cheney isn't running for president. "

interesting wrote on September 7, 2008 8:49 am:
" Hey Bonnie- You conveniently forgot to mention that she has executive experience as a mayor and as governor of one of the most important states (economically speaking) in this country. The community organizer has zero executive experience and claims that he is qualified to run the country because he has experience running for president. Let me tell you...that's change I can believe in. "

RELeland wrote on September 7, 2008 9:38 am:
" Why is it that people like you keep bringing up Hitler? I don't know where you get your information. I can only guess from Rush. When Hitler was in power he attacked European countries to make the world his. He did have mass killings of jews. Read history. It wasn't just the americans and english who went to war with him. He directly attacked the u.s. by sinking ships in the atlantic. He declared war on the u.s. Saddam attacked a neighbor, who asked the world to help. The world helped. Not just the u.s. and england. Your partys leader Bush, was good friends with the saudis and bin ladin. Who drove the planes into the towers? Not iraqis. It was saudis with the help of jordan. It wasn't iraq. Wmds? Where? this thing was based on conquering a oil nation. Everyone who lived when truman was in office knows that you don't stir the pot in the middle east unless you want to go to war with all the muslim countries. I to am a veteran of 20+ years and I am tired of our kids being killed and wounded beyond recovery. I classify bush and cheney as cowards and should be held accountable as war criminals. Mc Cain is just following their footsteps to keep us in war till "victory". Because he was an officer who happened to get shot down doesn't make him a hero. My hero's died on the battlefield protecting their fellow soldiers. "

Saline County wrote on September 7, 2008 9:46 am:
" Joe Smith you have an interesting letter and background. It is very similar to my own. My father's family settled in OK when it was called Indian Territory around 1900. We were always told by older relatives that my great-great grandmother from MS was 1/4 Choctaw. Younger relatives counterd that she was Cherokee. You can determine your heritage by having a DNA test performed. My test confirmed 9% American Indian. However, the test is not sophisticated enough to determine tribal lineage. "

Gerard Harbison wrote on September 7, 2008 10:36 am:
" It pains me to say so about a colleague, but claiming that an ability to solve problems in logic and mathematics, which is what we ask students to do on standardized test like the SAT or the GRE, amounts to requiring them to 'think like a white male', is racist and sexist, plain and simple. It hearkens back to the bad old days at the beginning of the last century, when algebraicist Emmy Noether was mocked by referring to her in the male gender, because she was a better mathematician than her peers. It reinforces a significant educational problem in some minority communities, where kids who study hard are derided as 'acting white'.

Knowledge and skill have no gender or race, Dr. van den Berg. "

Enlighten me wrote on September 7, 2008 11:04 am:
" If Bonnie or anyone else can tell me how Obama is any more qualified to go toe-to-toe with world leaders, I'd be glad to listen. His recent whirlwind tour does not make him an expert by any stretch. "

Huh wrote on September 7, 2008 11:54 am:
" Is Journal Star so devoid of letters criticizing Palin as a VP pick that they have to print letters from Seward, Scottsbluff, Omaha and Johnson. Or is this just a campaign by the dems telling their faithful to flood the news with the same rehashed smears against Sara. "

DFB wrote on September 7, 2008 12:14 pm:
" Leland, talking to Hitler may not have stopped war but how do you know that Hitler wanted to talk? Maybe he refused to talk unless there were pre-conditions. If anything, talking delays the onset of war.

Talking to the other side may not always prevent war, but refusing to talk increases dramatically the chance of war.

I am a Vietnam vet and know first hand what war is like and I would rather have our leaders at least try and talk and not end up in war rather than refuse to talk and end up in war.

As for McCain, no one is saying he wants war because he was a POW. That is a right wing myth propagated by Rush and his ilk.

Before you throw your support behind McCain because he was a POW, you better do some research and find out exactly what he did as a POW. He actually was a collaborator with the North Vietnamese by accepting special treatment and volunteering classified military info. "

Zoomie wrote on September 7, 2008 12:42 pm:
" Leland, holding up a finger wearing a purple band-aid was a slap in the face to every veteran who served their nation honorably! Did it stop you from voting for Bush? I doubt it!
McSame has promised (and demonstrated) that his "gut" reaction to anything he doesn't like in international affairs is to push for a military challange, and as any decent historian can tell you, war should be the last option as it demonstrates a total failure of diplomacy (which is NOT the same as acquiesing).
And Roger, you are exactly right, Republicans hate "socialism"...until it comes time to socialise the risk to protect corporate profits by shifting the risk to taxpayers. If you doubt that, explain why Bush Friday afternoon quietly ordered the effective nationalization of the mortgage industry by ordering the seizure of Fannie Mae and Feddie Mac! Literally hundreds of billions in losses will now shift to taxpayers, in a bailout that will dwarf the S&L scandal of the '80s, and over $5 trillion in mortgage debt will belong to the Federal gov't! While ordinary shareholders will lose all; preferred shareholders will get only cents on the dollar; but debtors (mostly foreign national banks, such as China and Japan) will get all their money! Let's remember Fannie/Freddie WERE gov't agencies, once upon a time. Then the GOP pushed through laws privatizing them, followed by banking/financial deregulation (same as the S&L) which led to excess, abuse, no enforcement, eventual collapse! And we taxpayers pay the cost!! One immediate result? Friday evening, representatives of the US auto industry are now asking for a $50 BILLION loan from the gov't! "

CS wrote on September 7, 2008 12:56 pm:
" If you are in an accident that would have ejected you from the vehicle, had you not had a seat belt on, you still would be in no condition to pilot the vehicle and would STILL be a risk to those around you. "

Preferences wrong wrote on September 7, 2008 1:54 pm:
" Mr. Van Den Berg states his case as well as possible, but it is still no go with me. I favor teh Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative. I know that white males are being hurt by preferences, here in Nebraska and everywhere else. Everyone knows that. Mr. Van Den Berg says that we have to do this to compensate women and minorities for past discrimination. I'm sorry, but the solution to yesterday's harm to someone is not to go off and hurt some innocent person tomorrow. That's a very brain-dead way of dealing with a problem. The way to deal with discrimination is to stop discriminating, period. "

MarkyMark wrote on September 7, 2008 2:04 pm:
" Very seriously, How can anyone even think about voting Republican? All they done is lie for decades now, about being Conservative!

When they finally had all the power for 6 years, they grew the biggest government ever and weren't even responsible to pay for it. That ain't spin, that's the facts. "

Yes to No wrote on September 7, 2008 4:16 pm:
" Birth Control stance. Since the "sexual revolution" of the late 60's, and the governmental reward (ie benifits) for having children to increase the government benifit, hense we have been teaching a no-responsibility form of birth control. The initial, "It is not your fault you are pregnant, and we will take care of you" stance, of the Liberal Democrats manifested into abortion as final option. We have gone from a society that saw premarital sex as a "sin", to an inviornment of entertainment perception and expectation of premarital sex is OK and expected. The high rate of single teen and even pre-teen pregnancies show the current form of "safe sex" and if all else fails abortion position is NOT WORKING. There is only one 100% effective birth control method, and that is abstinence. Any other form of birth control requires a higher level of personal behavior responsibility. And the statistics so far show that is NOT WORKING. So if we could go back to the initial personal responsibility of NO, and teach the 100% effective method, and make that again the societal norm, maybe the problem will eventually go away on its own. But teaching the it's OK if you use one of these less than perfect record birth control methods, so far has not produced any positive results based on the statistics. I too believe in abstinance, I am constantly on my teenage kids and step kids, that premarital sex is not a requirement and needed image maker. My message is plain, simple and direct, option A a 100% success rate with abstinance and all the advantages, or Option B, take your chances, and watch the potential of your life lower substatually, and Dad, and Mom are no going to be the de-facto babysitters/kid raiser while your continue your teenage life of "fun". "

MarkyMark wrote on September 7, 2008 4:32 pm:
" Finally! John McCain and Sarah Palin talking all week about the Middle Class. It's about time they paid some attention to us. After all, we are the ones that grow the economy.

It's almost a warm fuzzy feeling when the Republicans talk about the Middle Class.

AND, they do it every four years just like clockwork. "

Good Grief wrote on September 7, 2008 4:37 pm:
" Amazing! Another comparison of Adolph Hitler to that perpetually limp dicator, Sadaam Hussein.

Now that is some twisted logic. No wonder America is in the condition it is in. "

UnAmerican wrote on September 7, 2008 4:41 pm:
" I too am a little afraid of Sarah Palin's Anti-American stance.

If My wife or daughters were victims of a rape and they want an abortion, why can't they have it? Because Sarah Palin says so? By the way, she also proclaims the "morning after" pill after a rape is a sin...so....all the rape victims in America are forced to carry the "demon seed" to term. Get this woman out of government. "

Greg wrote on September 7, 2008 7:45 pm:
" Zoomie's characterization of war as a failure of diplomacy is accurate but unfortunately is a concept which seems to escape the understanding of some of the posters herein. He was anticipated in his thinking by Prussian general Carl von Clausewitz in his groundbreaking book "Vom Kriege" (On War) published in the 19th century, and still required reading in military academies. Clausewitz, in his book, analyzes the causes, motivations for and effects of war, but makes it clear that war should be a last resort, turned to only when diplomacy fails. In fact he sees war occurring as a direct result of the failure of diplomacy. And lest some might accuse him of "bleeding heart liberalism", he fought in the Napoleanic wars and, as a result, saw the death, waste and destruction at close hand. Nor should we forget that Union General Sherman (no liberal himself) said, some fifty years after Clausewitz, that "War is Hell". In brief, not to explore all possible diplomatic solutions before opting for war is lunacy. "

yes wrote on September 7, 2008 8:37 pm:
" Mr. VanDenBerg hit it right on the head - systemic racism and sexism.

boiling affirmative action down to individuals will always undermine the purpose for which is was enacted - to take a few small steps toward righting massive systemic wrongs.

I am a white female. I understand how affirmative action works. I understand that I might be passed over for a position somewhere by a person of color who is equally qualified. Knowing what kind of privileges I've had in my life and will likely continue to receive makes me OK WITH THAT. "

Fence sitter wrote on September 7, 2008 8:55 pm:
" Can we also show fear of several of Obama's "Anti-American" stances. I read the constitution along with the Declaration of Independence as well as the Bill of Rights. Many of the stances Obama takes are direct controdiction to the founders intent in these documents. If I look closely I do not see abortion rights in any of the above named documents. If one woman believes in the sanctity of human life, and one believes in abortion, which is Anti-American? Each of us has to search for a self morality, and faith in something, too bad Sarah Palin does not have the same views as some of the more radical left leaning beliefs. I personally am against abortion also but on the fence when it comes to rape or incest, life is life, not a "demon seed". There are many children of rape or incest that have been eventually kept by the mother kept or put up for adoption that have contributed to our society, life is life. Throwing a life in the trash because it does not meet a psuedo set of standards is truely Anti-American. "

Brian wrote on September 7, 2008 10:32 pm:
" Joe . . . I don't care who Obama's daddy is either, and he does not have my vote because I do not agree with him politically.

Bonnie . . . your statements are absolutely sexest and insulting. Take out Obama's European tour this summer and he and Sarah Palin have the same amount of international experience.

Obama is a joke. He can't speak without a teleprompter and his statements following the Russian attack on Georgia clearly show he doesn't have a firm grasp on international relations or on how the UN works. He and his wife have bad mouthed this country many times. It is on the record. I do not agree with McCain on everything, but I know this . . . he loves this country dearly and would sacrafice himself for it. I can't say the same for Obama. "

From Palin to Seat belts wrote on September 7, 2008 10:39 pm:
" I agree that choosing Palin, was an insulting choice on the part of McCain, I can't help but to wonder if he hoped to sway some of the Hillary Clinton supporters to his side by choosing a woman, using her essentially as a pawn. Palin's views however,are not in keeping with this woman's views, I will not be voting for that ticket.

On the issue of seat belts, I think anyone who does not put on a seat belt and wants to drive should be required by law to carry extra liability and health insurance. People that are thrown from cars, have more serious injuries or deaths that result from such actions. Seat belts save lives, and save you from more serious injuries, but if you choose not to wear one you must be responsible and have better health insurance and or a higher liability insurance to cover your choice. "

Unappreciative wrote on September 8, 2008 12:17 am:
" I have watched Obama's life story umpteen times, and he gives very little
and even NO credit to his "white" grandparents who raised him the biggest
part of his childhood. I have heard NOTHING as to what his maternal
grandfather did except go to college on the GI bill. He calls his mother
"a nice lady" but is more talk-a-tive of his father who "wasn't around to
raise him." I take away from every time I've listened to his story, that
he didn't appreciate being sent back to Hawawii and rebelled because
the school wasn't black. I hate to tell him, but he is very lite skinned
and DOES have half white blood in his veins. He has been toooo pushy
and will walk over anybody, according to all the news stories, to get
to the top. He constantly says he didn't have a "father" figure but my
guess is that he was unappreciative of his white grandfather. Shows
little appreciation of all the fathers who have been killed in the wars
and all the children who didn't have a father figure either, but their
fathers gave their lives so HE could have freedom!!!! "

JR wrote on September 8, 2008 12:44 am:
" According to the great Karl Rove, being the mayor of such a small town does not mean a person is qualified to be president. He also does not think being governor of a state for even three years is long enough to gain any real experience. Why is it one week ago, a majority of Americans had not even heard of Sarah Palin, and now, after one speech, the AM talk radio blow hards are claiming she is the next Ronald Reagan? Well, if I may venture a guess, it may have something to do with her ability to actually give a speech. The Republicans have gone years with out a great orator and are so tired of what passes as a speech they will do anything, or vote for anyone who can complete a sentence or even pronounce nuclear correctly. "

Peace through strength wrote on September 8, 2008 7:12 am:
" Is that like War is Peace? Freedom is Slavery? We have always been at war with Oceana. "

Just a lowly bachelors degree wrote on September 8, 2008 9:17 am:
" Bonnie,

I guess I will give up my dream of being considered for high elective office. Alas, I only have a lowly bachelor's degree. Do you realize that your "only-advanced-degrees-need-apply" litmus test disqualifies (among others) Presidents Truman (no college); Kennedy (bachelor's degree); LBJ (bahcelor's degree from - gasp - a state teacher's college); and Reagan (bachelor's degree). None of them could relate well with people on the international stage. "

Pay attention a little wrote on September 8, 2008 9:58 am:
" Obama has given plenty of love to and appreication for his grandmother. He's mentioned it many times in his speeches, if you just paid attention. But, it may be just me, but I read a little bit of reverse racism in your letter. Are you upset that he's not proud enough of being white? "

Abortion wrote on September 8, 2008 11:37 am:
" If using the Morning-after pill after a rape, I don't see how you consider it throwing away a baby. It's more like snuffing some goo. "

Reality wrote on September 8, 2008 11:39 am:
" Obama has givenlots of Kudos to his grandparents. But you won't see that on Fox news "

No Yes to No wrote on September 8, 2008 11:48 am:
" With your very conservative stance on birth control, I'm guessing you are in lock step with the GOP VP candidate, Gov. Palin on that issue. Of course her approach as resulted in her own unmarried 17 year old daughter getting pregnant.

As I understand it, here is a conservative’s idea of planned parenthood:
- Oppose sex education – What you don’t know won’t hurt you.
- Birth control is wrong - abstinence only!
- What?!? You're pregnant!
- No abortion for you!
- And you better not expect my taxes to pay for any sort of assistance, cause it's your own darn fault. "