Proposal would aid Nebraska swimmers

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BY RYLY JANE HAMBLETON / Lincoln Journal Star

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2008 - 12:43:23 am CDT

The best swimmers in the United States were recently in our backyard battling for the chance to compete against the best in the world.

A Nebraska School Activities Association committee on dual participation has proposed some changes for the membership to consider that would make it easier for young Nebraska swimmers to someday be among those vying for Olympic glory.

Those changes, one of the group’s members said, wouldn’t mean significant changes in the high school programs.

“The priority is with the high school competitions and practices,” said Lisa McNeel. “Once the athletes meet those requirements, then they can choose to do more outside of that.”

Nebraska schools will have several proposals to consider this fall when the legislative process begins with the first round of district meetings. Each of the proposals will be introduced at the six district meetings. If any pass at that level, they would advance to the second round of meetings, and passage at that point would send the proposals to the NSAA Representative Assembly, the rule-making arm of the association.

“I’ve never been an advocate of, ‘You can do whatever you want.’ I will always stand for high school sports being first,” said McNeel. “We wanted to work with the NSAA. The process is too painful to do a little bit here and a little bit there.

“I think we came up with some viable things for schools to consider.“

The committee proposed a change in the soccer rules that would allow for an athlete to compete on a nonschool team in two competitions during the NSAA season, which runs from March through April.

There are two proposals for swimming, one that would allow unlimited outside competitions and one that would allow two outside events.

Proposals were also drafted to switch the NSAA swimming season from the winter (December through February) to the fall (September through November), and change the soccer season from the spring to the fall.

Perhaps the most important of the proposed changes involves the ability to have individual instruction that doesn’t interfere with the high school team’s requirements.

“This was a compromise to get these proposed, and I think it worked well,” said NSAA executive director Jim Tenopir. “I don’t know what kind of support they will have, but this puts the option out there.

“We’ll let the membership speak. If any are worthy of consideration, they will move forward.”

A bill was introduced in the Nebraska Legislature that would have opened up outside participation, but while the Education Committee was interested in the notion, LB 1135 failed to make it out of committee.

Tenopir said the proposals to change seasons might be a difficult sell to the NSAA membership.

“Our winter season has the fewest number of activities. If you take swimming out, then we’re down to wrestling and basketball,” he said. “The soccer one was proposed the year before and it didn’t gain a lot of traction.

“When soccer started, it was placed in the spring because schools had concerns about sharing outdoor facilities used by football. I’m not sure that’s as big of an issue that it once was.”

Tenopir told the members of the Representative Assembly last spring that the issue would need to be considered carefully.

“I’ve tried to instill in people that you have to look at the whole issue,” he said. “When it comes right down to it, each of the schools will get to vote their school’s position on dual participation.

“There are 38 or 39 that have swimming. With 312 member schools, we likely will have people see that as an issue that won’t affect them. We’ve seen more and more that schools are abstaining if the proposal doesn’t pertain to them.”

Still, Tenopir isn’t sure what will come of the proposals.

“My crystal ball is foggy on this one. At least the issues are put out there,” he said.

And McNeel said she appreciates the effort made by the NSAA.

“We wanted people to know it isn’t just all or nothing with us. We wanted to help people think outside the box,” she said. “School practice and competition takes priority.

“I applaud those kids who do three sports — fall, winter and spring — and get three letters. It’s also just as amazing that a kid says, ‘I want to excel at one thing.’ If this is what you love more than anything else, you should be able to do it.”

Ryly Jane Hambleton at 473-7314 or rhambleton@journalstar.com.


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Fullerton Flash wrote on July 9, 2008 6:27 am:
" My prediction: The compromises made by Mrs. McNeel and her dual participation advocates will prove all for naught as these proposals will all be voted down by the NSAA membership--primarily by little schools who don't offer swimming or soccer to their students but neverthless get a vote as large as Omaha Central, Millard North or any of the other large Class A Schools. Its totally undemocratic but it allows the entrenched male-rural good ol' boy coaching interests to stay in control of high school sports in Nebraska. And that's the way it will always be in the magical kingdom of the NSAA. "

education first wrote on July 9, 2008 7:36 am:
" "School Practice and competition takes prioritity" she says. How about homework takes priority. Let's not forget the meaing of 'EXTRAcurricular.' "

Swim fan wrote on July 9, 2008 8:56 am:
" The difference is that swimming in a completely different type of training. Short course and long cousre competition training need to be considered. High school does not offer olympic events such as the 800m and the 1500m among others. These athletes need to train different than for high school competition. There is also very low risk of injury when compared to soccer so it is a completely different argument. The coaches in Omaha have it figured out. The rest of the state needs to catch up and realize that it will only effect the athletes that have a shot at qualifing for national meets, which are bigger than the NSAA weither they want to admit it or not. "

H.S. Athletic Advocate wrote on July 9, 2008 8:59 am:
" If this were to be passed, it would signal the downfall of high school athletics. Opening this door for overzealous parents thinking little Johny or little Suzie is the greatest of all time would be like opening Pandora's box. Remember, "No servant can serve two masters", and that is exactly what you are asking these kids to do when you have them compete for two different teams and coaches. "

Female AD from Small School wrote on July 9, 2008 9:32 am:
" Fullerton Flash: YOU apparently have never attended an NSAA District meeting! First of all, the majority of schools who do not offer an activity usually do not vote on issues that deal with an activity that they do not have and I am sure this will be no different. Your "male-good ol boy" comment oozes with sarcasm and you apparently are only familiar with coaching situations in your area. The last I knew, each Class A school only had 1 Basketball team as does every Class D School. What make them warrant a "larger" vote than anyone else?? You are sadly misinformed! "

Love Swimming wrote on July 9, 2008 6:05 pm:
" As a swim coach, former athlete and participant in this movement I would like to respond to several misconceptions. First, this WILL NOT be the downfall of HS sports, 43 other states have some form of dual participation in this country and it is much more successful than NE. This is also not about "crazy parents", this is about parents and student/athletes having control over what they can do in their free time, not the NSAA telling them what they can and cannot do. I work closely with Mrs. McNeel on this issue and we all want compromise, but we want the kids who want to swim at the National level to not be restricted by a publicly funded ogranization, this is a parenting issue!!! We do support HS swimming all the positive that is brings to the kids. "

Former HS and Club Coach wrote on July 9, 2008 7:13 pm:
" What more can we possibly expect of HS swimmers. During the HS season, the serious swimmers have a very rigorous schedule. Maybe "Love Swimming" does not remember the hours that he/she put in, but most swimmers attend morning practice (at 5:30 a.m.), go to school all day, then have another workout for 2 hours after school. If they are lucky enough to swim for a school with a large pool, that practice will be immediately after school, otherwise, they may have to return in the evening. Then on Saturday, there is another 2 hour workout. During the holidays, teams have 2-a-day workouts. These are not optional practices. WHEN could you possibly have time to meet with your club? Or do homework? Or sleep? If you want to compete, you work out with your HS TEAM, every day, every practice. That is the policy. Why do clubs think that their meets are more important and more valuable than high school meets. In high school, swimmers actually learn about TEAM swimming, not individual swimming. Isn't it nice that an individual sport can actually teach athletes to compete as a TEAM. Who cares if GNST, MAC, NA, CCA, or some other team with an acronym as a name wins the meet. NOBODY. High school swimming keeps kids motivated through the age group years to keep swimming and be a part of "State". Without the State High School swimming program, club swimming would have ZERO purpose. Who has a career as a swimmer? Nobody. Swimming is a great sport in the high school arena. Club sports have a purpose and summer meets are the place to let these swimmers shine - in the long course pools. Let high school have 3 1/2 months without clubs trying to over train the athletes and put in their input. It is not illegal for a swimmer to have "private lessons" with a stroke coach, but leave the meets out of the picture until the HS season is over. It isn't that long of a season. "

Red wrote on July 9, 2008 7:34 pm:
" Let the kids participate whenever they want! The NSAA has been a detriment to many athletes.It's the parents that should have the control over their kids and not any organization or school! "

Swim anywhere anytime wrote on July 9, 2008 11:44 pm:
" High School swimming in Nebraska is something quite SPECIAL. Keep it the way it is! I'm not sure what all the fuss is. Most of the high school swim coaches are current and former club coaches. Why is Ms. McNeel complaining - her daughter's future high school coach is also one of her club coaches. "

Why wrote on July 10, 2008 2:01 am:
" The NSAA is an arcane organization. The student athletes attend public and private schools. The schools hold membership in the NSAA. The parents of the students have no direct voice in the NSAA. Most of the schools are public schools. ADs represent the schools at the NSAA. None of this makes sense. "

Matt wrote on July 10, 2008 10:30 pm:
" I agree with comments of "Former HS and Club Coach" and would add few facts to consider: 1. There are 13 Olympic events and high school has 8 corresponding events. 2. The NSAA would allow high schools to have invitational meets that would allow the swimmers to compete in the other 5 races. 3. As a former high school swimmer/club swimmer/Olympic Trial qualifier/club coach from a state that has dual participation I can say first hand that high school swimming is special in Nebraska and would be negatively impacted by dual participation. 4. Part of life's lessons is having to make difficult choices. Swimming is a demanding sport and it's not physically possible to give 100% effort to the high school practice and then train with their club as well. If you choose to participate in high school swimming you need to follow the rules. Every private organization, including USA Swimming, has rules the athlete must follow if they CHOOSE to participate. "

Swim parent wrote on July 11, 2008 9:06 am:
" I know quite a few swimmers who also run cross country. This would eliminate that because they would be during the same season. "

Fullerton Flash wrote on July 11, 2008 10:47 am:
" Female AD from Small School: While the NSAA will surely appreciate your post in its support, you are so woefully misinformed that you hurt the NSAA's cause, not help it. Your statement that "the last you knew, each Class A school had only 1 basketball team" borders on the incredible unless the last time you knew anything was 1977 because each Class A school has had atleast 2 teams for atleast the last 31 years with most if not all of them
annually fielding eight teams per year, 4 boys and 4 girls. My comment about the good ol' boy male and rural interests running the NSAA stands. If you disagree, cite me some FACTS that would dispute that (1) only white MEN sit on the NSAA Board of Control and that such has been the case for since I would guess before you were born, (2) that out of 178 Distinguished Service Awards handed out by the NSAA, only 6 have gone to women, (3) that a Board
of Control member from Omaha represents 4 times the number of schools and sixteen times the number of students as does the outstate Board member from District V, (4) that the NSAA Districts have not been redrawn to reflect the
actual number of schools and students since the days before rural Nebraska was introduced to electricity. I am not demanding that Class A schools to get MORE voting power than their schools and students would entitle them, I
am only saying things would less unfair if you would join with me in arguing that its not right for schools with only 17% of Nebraska's (mostly white & rural)students to be able to frustrate the will of schools with over 83% of
its (mostly diverse & urban) students. While you apparently have no interest in any issues involving gender or racial fairness, I would have hoped that anyone's interest in principles of basic equity and fairness for kids
throughout Nebraska might have trumped a selfish desire to maintain the status quo which you are apparently willing to defend. And finally, you're right that I haven't been to an NSAA District meeting--but not for the
reasons one might think. Its because only AD's and coaches are welcomed at NSAA meetings. Parents and members of the public aren't allowed to participate in these meetings at all as that could only exist if the NSAA meetings were public under Nebraska open meetings rules so NSAA's lawyers simply say those rules don't apply. Kinda makes one proud of your esteemed NSAA, doesn't it. "