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Iraq sees hope of U.S. troop withdrawal by 2010

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By BRIAN MURPHY / The Associated Press

Monday, Jul 21, 2008 - 06:53:23 pm CDT

BAGHDAD — Iraq’s government welcomed Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Monday with word that it apparently shares his hope that U.S. combat forces could leave by 2010.

The statement by Iraq’s government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, followed talks between Obama and Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki — who has struggled for days to clarify Iraq’s position on a possible timetable for a U.S. troop pullout.

Al-Dabbagh said the government did not endorse a fixed date, but hoped American combat units could be out of Iraq sometime in 2010. That timeframe falls within the 16-month withdrawal plan proposed by Obama, who arrived in Iraq earlier in the day as part of a congressional fact-finding team.

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U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (left), the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, David Petraeus (center) and U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., ride inside a helicopter in Baghdad, Iraq, on Monday. (AP / U.S. Army)

“We are hoping that in 2010 that combat troops will withdraw from Iraq,” al-Dabbagh told reporters, noting that any withdrawal plan was subject to change if the level of violence kicks up again.

Obama made no public statements following the talks with al-Maliki and President Jalal Talabani in Baghdad’s heavily protected Green Zone. Obama also plans meetings with U.S. military commanders who will outline recent progress in the war he has opposed from the start.

This was the third stop on a foreign tour designed to gather information while burnishing the Democratic contender’s foreign policy credentials. Obama has been traveling with Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel and U.S. Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I. National security issues are the one issue area in which Obama trails Republican John McCain in the polls.

The Iraqi government comment on troop withdrawals could be embraced by the Obama campaign, but may irritate White House officials. The Bush administration has refused to set specific troop level targets and only last week offered to discuss a “general time horizon” for a U.S. combat troop exit.

At the White House on Monday, Press Secretary Dana Perino said she had not heard the latest statement from al-Dabbagh. But responding to the continuing debate over withdrawal, Perino said the U.S. shares the goal of bringing U.S. troops home based on security success.

“The key issue is that they understand it will not be arbitrary; it will not be a date that you just pluck out of thin air; it will not be something that Americans say, ‘We’re going to do — we’re going to leave at this date,’ which is what some have suggested,” she said.

The Iraqi stance also is another wrinkle in a confusing series of remarks and denials in recent days.

Al-Maliki was quoted last week by the German magazine Der Spiegel appearing to endorse Obama’s 16-month timetable. The Iraqi leader’s aides have since said his comments were misunderstood, and he is not taking sides in the U.S. election.

The U.S. military also took the unusual step of translating and distributing the Iraqi government reaction to the Der Spiegel article.

The meetings with Iraqi officials came after Obama began his first on-the-ground inspection of Iraq since launching his bid for the White House.

It marked the second major leg of a war zone tour that opened in Afghanistan. The contrasts in tone and message were distinct.

Obama sees the battle against the resurgent Taliban and al-Qaida in Afghanistan as America’s most crucial fight and supports expanding troop strength there to counter a sharp rise in attacks.

But Obama had opposed the Iraq invasion and now worries that an open-ended U.S. combat mission here will sap military resources and focus — at a time when Iraq violence has dropped to its lowest level in four years.

The senators arrived first in the southern city of Basra, the U.S. Embassy said.

Basra is the center for about 4,000 British troops involved mostly in training Iraqi forces. An Iraqi-led offensive begun in March reclaimed control of most of the city from Shiite militia believed linked to Iran.

His meetings in Baghdad were expected to include the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, and other military chiefs outlining the significant gains in recent months against both Shiite militia and Sunni insurgents including al-Qaida in Iraq.

The White House and military leaders — and many residents of Baghdad — trace the momentum back to last year’s buildup of more than 30,000 troops in areas around Iraq’s capital. McCain has tried to hammer Obama on his criticisms of that military surge.

In an interview Monday on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” McCain said he hoped Obama would now “have the opportunity to see the success of the surge.”

“This is the same strategy that he voted against, railed against,” McCain said. “He was wrong about the surge. It is succeeding and we are winning.”

All five surge brigades have left Iraq, but there are still about 147,000 U.S. soldiers in Iraq, more than in early 2007.

Iraqi leaders also pressed Obama for more clarity on his long-term vision for relations with Washington. Such discussions have added importance since Iraq and U.S. negotiators appear stalled in efforts to reach a long-range pact to define future U.S. military presence and obligations.

American diplomats hoped to reach a final accord by the end of the month, but it now seems the goal is a stopgap “bridge” document that would maintain the status for U.S. forces once a U.N. mandate on their presence expires at the end of the year. Such as move would leave the hard bargaining to the next president.

Obama arrived following talks Sunday in Kuwait with the emir, Sheik Sabah Al Ahmed Al Sabah. Earlier he met with U.S. military commanders and troops in Afghanistan and held talks with President Hamid Karzai.

He is scheduled to go on to Jordan, Israel and European capitals.


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mike wrote on July 21, 2008 12:33 pm:
" The press coverage of this "tour" is a pathetic display of journalistic bias. The are collectively drooling over obama. The press used to at least pretend to be unbiased, now, they are openly out of the closet. "

T. Furgeson wrote on July 21, 2008 12:47 pm:
" Obama = Flip Flopper, he will say and tell you whatever you want to hear. This guy is a complete joke. "

Flip wrote on July 21, 2008 1:11 pm:
" Speaking of Obama flip flopping, McCain is flipped on almost every issue. "

joseph wrote on July 21, 2008 1:26 pm:
" show me a politician that hasn't "flip flopped" on any issue and i'll reveal the diamond fields of Nebraska to you.

speaking of jokes how much do you pay for gas? thanks for voting Blindly Red T.Furg how abut buying me a tank of gas, you owe me that much. "

Proud of Hagel wrote on July 21, 2008 1:58 pm:
" Chuck Hagel is an honest man. He stands up to those in the republican party who have abandoned honesty. It is a shame that we dont have more men like him and it is a shame to see so many nebraskans slander him. "

nemo wrote on July 21, 2008 3:25 pm:
" He can say what he thinks we want to hear now, but when push comes to shove, after, if he's elected, what then. What if there is a resurgence in violence? How's he going to keep that promise? "

Hey mike wrote on July 21, 2008 3:50 pm:
" and others who think georgie and dicky are the gift of the u.s. Hagel has forgotten more than georgie ever knew. Dick is a coward with a big mouth. Put them in combat for a year or two .Bet dick would find god real quick. Obama may be new to washington politics , but, that only tells me that he hasn't been compremised yet. Hagel it seems never was. We should vote out everyone who has one term in and get all new that the lobbyist don't own. Hagel at least votes and speaks what he believes. Nebraska should be proud , but, no they condemn him whenever possible. Wish he was in my state as a senator as we have a bunch of george bush wantabees. "

MarkyMark wrote on July 21, 2008 3:57 pm:
" The press isn't necessarily biased. They seem to be all worked up because this election is even more historical than the usual year. I think it would be the same if it were Hillary, or if it were a black, or woman, republican nominee. (If that would ever happen). "

to Nemo wrote on July 21, 2008 4:01 pm:
" You mean like all the resurges of violence weve been experiencing for the past 5 years? What in the world do we have to lose? "

JR wrote on July 21, 2008 4:13 pm:
" A number of things have come together to lead the media to cover Obama more than McCain at this time. 1. Obama, as MarkyMark pointed out is the first African American to get a presidential nomination. 2. Mc Cain won his nomination easily and early. and 3. While Obama is doing something right now which is new, for him, McCain is in the states repeating the same old mantra, which while some of it may be true and needed to be heard, is still not NEW. Henceforth the media is compelled to cover the NEWS. Trust me, I know how the R's feel. I felt the same gut wrenching feeling when everyone was fawning over W as he landed on that aircraft carrier to declare Mission Accomplished. "

jonnyb wrote on July 21, 2008 6:06 pm:
" Sen Hagel? I'm so sorry. What a shame. "

T. Furgeson wrote on July 21, 2008 7:36 pm:
" Voting for Obama cause he is black is as bad as me not voting for him cause he is black. Hey Joseph its your Blue friends who are holding up the drilling process you only have your party to blame. Buy you a gas how about a punch is the nose. "

Zoomie wrote on July 21, 2008 7:43 pm:
" In 2005 McSame said, when asked about our departure might be from Iraq, when the Iraqis say we should leave, we leave. Now Maliki is saying Obama's estimate of 16 months is about right. The Iraqi people and gov't have made clear they want a timetable for withdrawal, and they'd prefer it be about the same timeframe as Obama has called for. In Afghanistan, Obama said we need two more brigades of troops (brigades we don't have because they're either recovering or tied up in Iraq). McSame flip-flopped (he used to say we had enough troops in Afghanistan) and now insists he'll send THREE brigades to Iraq (though I have no clue where he plans to find them)! Today he said Obama is to blame for $4 gas. Huh? How exactly is it Obama's fault? In fact, six months ago McSame said high gas prices are the fault of Congress over the last 30 years for failing to do their job. Uhh, Obama's only been in Congress a few years; McSame has been there, what, 27 years? So I guess, according to McSame, expensive gas is HIS fault! "

whatever wrote on July 21, 2008 9:14 pm:
" McCain agreed years ago that if the Iraqi government "requested" a withdrawal of US troops we would be bound to honor it. "

MarkyMark wrote on July 21, 2008 9:19 pm:
" Just an example of how Neo Cons like to twist whatever is said. We were talking about it being a historical election because of Hillary the Woman and Obama the African American. This and the way things have unfolded have caused a lot of the media wanting to cover the historical era that is happening now. No one (T Furg) but no one, mentioned "voting for Obama because he was black" and I think I resent you putting words in other peoples mouth. That was something you came up with on your own, my friend. "

To T. Furgeson wrote on July 21, 2008 9:25 pm:
" How about making some sense? You said you won't vote for Obama cuz he's black. Your misquoting other posters. Starting a fight and threating someone on a message board is very 7th grade. Please grow up and put some thought into your posts or you will get no respect at all. "

Military Intelligence wrote on July 21, 2008 9:31 pm:
" Question? When I hear Bush apologists bragging about how the "Surge" has worked, I can't help but realize how horribly this war was managed to start with. Four years of ill-equipped soldiers and an "understaffed" invasion. On top of that, everything seemed to be a surprise. This adminstration and advisors acted like they knew the Middle East at about a high school freshman level. Mission Accomplished. Let's go home. "

JB wrote on July 21, 2008 11:00 pm:
" Just like anything else, the press follows a "winner". Losers are not very interesting. McCain is kind of boring. He only wants to continue Bush's failed ideas and programs. Obama doesn't use a script like the Repulicans like to use. "

joseph wrote on July 22, 2008 8:39 am:
" you still owe me tank of gas. in fact i think all republicans should pay 6 dollars a gallon for gas and all dems should pay $2 seems fair since you voted for big oil - cough - i mean GWB & DC. 2 oil men controlling the country and gas prices out of control what are the odds? "

nemo wrote on July 22, 2008 9:56 am:
" We have a lot to lose. I said a resurgence because violence is down over there, al Dabbagh said it himself, " if the level of violence kicks up again" You can deny it, because it doesn't fit in with your politics, but the troop surge has worked. I am one person that would never argue that this war was not about oil, you want a bunch of terrorists who hate our guts in control of the bulk of the world's fossil fuels, that we as a country are so addicted to? You think 4 bucks is bad, by the way big oil would be saudi aramco, nioc iran, inoc iraq, kpc kuwait pdv venezuela,,,,,etc.... Exxon and chevron conocophilips and bp control 3% of the world oil reserves. How do you like that for some propoganda? "

mike wrote on July 22, 2008 11:52 am:
" if people cannot see the media bias then they too are not being honest with themselves. Also, for the record, the GOP has had african american candidates...and they were a LOT better, smarter and experienced than B.O. is or ever will be. "

joseph wrote on July 22, 2008 12:54 pm:
" yeah i never see or hear any media bias on fox news or 1400am. "

Grundle wrote on July 22, 2008 3:48 pm:
" HAHAHAAA! Obama doesn't use a script! Classic! You're right, he doesn't use a script...he just steals (err...borrows) all of his speeches. "

For the Record Mike wrote on July 22, 2008 3:54 pm:
" Apples to Oranges, Mike. Any Republican African American candidate was not the parties nominee now was he? What were their names by the way?

I see a lot of bias in your letter while you are accusing the bias of others. "

Imagine That wrote on July 22, 2008 5:24 pm:
" Politicians they will all say what ever you want to here to get elected but they never seem to get the job done after elected and Obama is no different.I see a lot of he hopes this will happen but as far as positive time tables well we cant do that.A proposed 16 month plan,we all know proposals can be trashed as easily as they are drafted. "