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BY BRENT C. WAGNER / Lincoln Journal Star

Saturday, Jul 19, 2008 - 12:47:27 am CDT

It seems like some days your  minivan is the only one in the school parking lot without a bumper sticker pledging allegiance to the Lincoln Rebels, Lincoln Dodgers or Lincoln Hawks.

Young Billy says he's one of the only kids who didn't have to leave the January slumber party early for an indoor practice session with his select baseball team.

So, you're once again exploring getting your son on a select baseball team. You know, those teams that play 50 games a season, travel throughout the Midwest and help fill Saturdays from January to July.

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Head Coach Bob Bade explains a fielding drill to players during youth tryouts for the Dodgers baseball team at Elks Field recently. (Heidi Hoffman)
Tryout information

The following is a list of youth baseball tryout information for programs in the Lincoln area that have tryout dates this month. All ages listed are for the player’s age as of May 1, 2009.

Sites

Ballard Field: 66th Street and Kearney Avenue.

Cooper Park: Eighth and D streets.

Densmore Field: 6701 S. 14th St.

Elks Field: 38th Street and Normal Boulevard.

Optimist Youth Sports Complex: 5300 S. Folsom St.

Southeast High School: 2930 S. 37th St.

University Place Field: 50th and Francis streets.

Lincoln Dominators

Remaining dates: Today and Sunday.

Times: Today, 5:30-7 p.m. at Uni Place Field for 8’s, 7-8:30 p.m. at Cooper Park for 11’s, 5:30-7 p.m. at Cooper for 13’s, 7-8:30 p.m. at Uni Place for 9-year-old Black; Sunday, 7-8:30 p.m. at Ballard Field for 12’s, 5:30-7 p.m. at Ballard for 14’s.

Lincoln Hawks

Date: Today at Ballard Field.

Times: 9-10:45 a.m. for 10-year-olds; 11 a.m.-12:45 p.m. for 11-year-olds; 1-2:45 p.m. for 12-year-olds; 3-4:45 p.m. for 14-year-olds, 3-4:45 p.m.; 13-year-olds, contact Jim Prai (440-4820) or Scott Oehm (304-2803) for info.

Lincoln Heat

Dates: Today, Tuesday and Wednesday.

Times: Today, 9 a.m. for 9-year-olds, 10 a.m for 10-year-olds, both at Elks Field; Tuesday, 6 p.m. for 11-year-olds, 7:30 p.m. for 12-year-olds, both at Elks; Wednesday, 6 p.m. for 13-year-olds, 7:30 p.m. for 14-year-olds, both at Densmore Field #4.

Lincoln Titans

Dates: Today, July 26-27.

Times: Today, 5-8 p.m. for 11- and 12-year-olds at Elks Field; July 26 (all at Uni Place Field) — 5-6:30 p.m. for 11-year-olds, 6:30-8 p.m. for 12-year-olds, 8-9:30 p.m. for 13-year-olds; July 27 (all at Ballard Field), 5-6:30 p.m. for 11-year-olds, 6:30-8 p.m. for 12-year-olds, 8-9:30 p.m. for 13-year-olds.

Lincoln Sox

Dates: Sunday.

Times: 5 p.m. for 9-year-olds, 7 p.m. for 11-year-olds, both at Elks Field; 8:30 a.m. for 13-year-olds, 10:30 a.m. for 14-year-olds; 5 p.m. for 10-year-olds; 7 p.m. for 12-year-olds, all at Cooper Park.

NYAA Sharks

Dates: Sunday at Ballard Field.

Times: 9:30-11 a.m. for 12-year-olds, 11 a.m. -12:30 p.m. for 13-year-olds.

Lincoln Cyclones

Dates: Friday at Optimist Youth Sports Complex.

Times: 10 a.m. for 10, 11, 12 and 13.

Lincoln Dodgers

Date: July 26 at Cooper Field.

Times: 8-10 a.m. for 14-year-olds; 10 a.m.-noon for 12-year-olds.

Lincoln Jaguars

Date: July 27 at Cooper Field.

Times: 12:30-2 p.m. for 11-year-olds, 2:30-4 p.m. for 12-year-olds.

Lincoln Lightning Baseball

Date: July 27 at Optimist Youth Sports Complex.

Time: 2-5 p.m. for 14-year-olds, ages as of April 30, 2009.

Lincoln Pirates

Date: July 27 at Ballard Field.

Time: 12:30-3 p.m. for 14-and-under.

Lincoln Rebels

Remaining date: July 27 at Southeast High School.

Times: 3-3:45 p.m. for 11-year-olds; 3:45-4:30 p.m. for 12-year-olds; 4:30-5:15 p.m. for 13-year-olds; 5:15-6 p.m. for 14-year-olds.

Now is the time of year when select programs begin to pick their teams for next season, and many will have tryouts in the next two weeks.

The thought of a select baseball team can evoke many questions for parents, especially those who grew up when a 16-game season and $25 fee were the norm, and most of the baseball was played in a sandlot.

Area coaches say you should get your questions answered during the tryout process and before you commit to the season.

"We want to make sure the parents understand how different select traveling teams are from Little League or the YMCA, just in terms of commitment of time," said Dan Little, who will coach the Lincoln Dominators’ team of 10-year-olds next season.

Ah, yes, time. You should expect to spend plenty of it. Most traveling teams will play between 40 and 70 games a season. At the peak of the season, you should expect a weekday game or practice, and a weekend tournament.

"It's usually pretty eye-opening for a new parent to come in and grasp what the commitment really is for these kids to get better and develop their skills," Little said.

The time commitment is one of the questions Chuck Kreikemeier gets most. He's been an assistant coach with the Lincoln Sox for several years, and will be coaching the 9-year-old team.

Kreikemeier says 50 games seem like a lot when you've been playing 12 games, but when stretched over four months it, "maybe isn't as crazy as it sounds."

“It is a commitment, no question. But I guess it's part of my lifestyle,” Kreikemeier said. "I don't play golf on the weekends, and I'm not boating. I'm spending time with my kids and helping other people's kids, and that's my enjoyment. My family is out there, and everybody enjoys it."

To keep players from spending most of their time on the bench, most teams have between 11 and 13 players. So it's important that parents decide if their child will be committed to attending practice and games throughout the season.

"Sometimes kids need to be pushed intro trying new things," Little said. "Select baseball is probably not a good thing to push a kid into, just because of the time commitment. Unless the kids are really interested in learning the fundamentals and getting better, it can be a long season. You really want the kids to have a love of the game and want to get better.”

Another factor parents need to consider is the financial commitment. Select teams fees can range from $400 to $900. Add to that the  cost for indoor practice time, clinics, and travel and hotel costs. Whether a team has volunteer or paid coaches also factors into players’ fees.

Fundraising opportunities do exist. The Dominators have a soup supper each season. Other organizations sell concessions or clean up after various sporting events.

Just like the organizations themselves, each tryout is different. While the core of select teams remain largely the same from year to year, Little says many players can still make the jump from another league to select baseball. 

Like most teams, the Dominators make players try out each season, and ask returning players to not wear any of their previous team gear. As many as 50 players will try out for some teams.

"One thing I think is important for parents to know for tryouts is that when they get out there to do groundballs or fly balls or hitting, it's not matter of which kids catch all the fly balls or field all the groundballs clearly," Little said. "But which kids are hustling after the ball, which kids look like they want to be out there and have a good attitude."

With the Sox, Kreikemeier plans a two-hour tryout that he will videotape. He'll be looking for thinks such as speed and agility, throwing ability, how players listen and their attitudes.

As the father of three, Kreikemeier understands that kids have bad days, and encourages parents to look at several organizations.

"I tell parents to plan on going to a few tryouts, just don't plan on going to one tryout," Kreikemeier said. "Just because you don't show your stuff at one tryout, you might at another."

Reach Brent C. Wagner at 473-7435 or bwagner@journalstar.com.


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mike wrote on July 19, 2008 7:40 am:
" Crazy. With all of the kids and teams in Lincoln, one would think there could be some exceptional leagues formed that wouldn't require traveling to other places to play every weekend. I have a friend whose kid played 3 of his first 30 games in Lincoln - makes no sense. "

JPB wrote on July 19, 2008 8:48 am:
" IMHO, select sports are ruining some kids and team sports. Select teams usually consist of the best players in any given age group. Any coach with the best players in any sport will have a dominating team and can attribute the teams' success to "better skills." Is a ten year-old's "skill development" going to be enhanced by practicing more than some college and high school players practice?
Physicians everywhere express concerns about the risks of long term injury when young kids' bodies are not developed for the types of excessive repetitive movements baseball may require (esp. pitching and throwing).
Select sports is more of a money making enterprise than anything else. "

JB wrote on July 19, 2008 10:48 am:
" Know what "level" a team plays. The higher the level, the more games, the more travel, the farther they travel, the more time, and the more expense. Most teams play in the USSAA and the levels are simlar to MLB. "A-AA-AAA" with "Major" being the highest. The higher level teams usual practice in the winter and will start play earlier in the season. The highest level teams in Lincoln are usually Dodgers, Dominators, and the Rebels. They will be the most "selective" of the programs. Most high schools coaches prefer "select" players above other. My son played for Bob Bade and the Dodgers. Later he played for Southwest. If my son would do things over, it would be playing "select" baseball at a earlier age. Once a team is selected, it is harder to get on a team in later years. "

JB wrote on July 19, 2008 1:20 pm:
" Know what "level" play a team will participate in. Most teams are in the USSAA which has their teams rated like in MLB. "A-AA-AAA" and "Major", with the later being the highest level. The higher the level the more games, the more travel, the more pratices, the more amount of time needed, the greater the travel distances, the greater the expense and greater the want to win. In most cases the Dodgers, the Dominators, and the Rebels play the the higher levels and are MORE selective. It is easier to get on these teams at a younger age because the better teams do not have much of a turnover of players in later seasons. To save money I bought a tent to use for away tournaments. My son played for Bob Bade and the Dodgers. Recent years he played for Lincoln Southwest. "

Cole wrote on July 19, 2008 2:28 pm:
" Programs like this are ruining participation and commitment to local school athletics. School programs offer appropriate and measured competitive athletic experiences to kids while giving them a sense of loyalty and contribution to their community and school culture.

This much focus, this young on one thing limits normal, well-rounded child development. It is common for these kids to miss participation in many other activities. Other sports, clubs, music, church, family functions, birthday parties - they all take a back seat to this cult-like nonsense. And to top it all off, there's no useful transferrable skill. We can hoist the championship trophy and hang a medal around little Johnny's neck, but someone from India is answering my customer service calls.

Little Johnny and his friends should definitely be playing baseball and playing hard... during the summer... twice a week... in Lincoln... on dirt a dirt infield. On August first the glove is in the closet and it stays there! It's time to get ready for algebra and to play a little football. "

John wrote on July 19, 2008 4:12 pm:
" My son played select baseball along with soccer and football. He did quit Boy Scouts, the band, and participating in church activities, but it was his decisions. Later it was only baseball and football of which he played in high school along with track. Now that he graduated from high school he is going to be a student manager with the NU football team so he wont be so lost without his sports participation. He is a very rounded student in a age of phisically unfit children. "

rt wrote on July 19, 2008 5:38 pm:
" If anyone has tried out for any select team it's quite obvious that in order to make "some" of these teams you have to a) have quite a lot of money to throw to the team, and b) know someone on the team. My son has tried out for a few of these teams and he's not too bad of a player, but because of the money factor and not knowing anyone he didn't make it. And I say this because he has played with some of these kids who did make the team and he was a lot better than they were. i.e., kids whose dad made them play and who was a coach on the team and the kids who cried when things didn't go their way. Some, not all of these teams are a joke to even try out for as in my opinion they are not fair and impartial. "

John wrote on July 19, 2008 6:26 pm:
" Go to www.usaaabaseball.org to see a team's level of play, schedule, record, and ratings. For the ratings teams get points for how well they do in tournament which is used to qualify for the nationals. Use to compared current and past teams. "

Sam wrote on July 21, 2008 6:38 am:
" John....I'm curious...what college did your son play for? "

Jessica wrote on July 21, 2008 6:53 am:
" My nephew played select teams for 3 years. He was so busy with them that he wasn't able to participate in band, speech and some of his academic programs. His parents didn't feel it was up to a child of his age to make the decision that would affect his future so they pulled him from the whole select sports atmosphere and he was able to concentrate on his acdemic programs instead. Their family had more time to spend with each other and they worked out as a family every day at the YMCA. He goes to the University every day as well. University Med. Center that is. He is going to be a doctor. "

JB wrote on July 21, 2008 11:15 pm:
" Almost all the players on high school teams in Lincoln played select baseball. Playing Little League, YMCA, or Babe Ruth don't give a boy enough game experience. Prior to my son playing select ball he played all three at the same time inorder to get enough games to improve. Little League is weekday evenings, YMCA is weekends, and Babe Ruth was weekdays. "