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Former B17 pilots get to ride in Flying Fortress again

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BY JOE DUGGAN / Lincoln Journal Star

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2008 - 12:37:19 am CDT

Thunder dropped out of a blue Lincoln sky Monday afternoon.

Bill Schock watched the B-17G bomber — its silver body reflecting the sun, its four propellers cutting the air — and he asks a question to no one in particular.

“A beautiful airplane, isn’t it?”

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World War II veteran Bill Schock smiles as he stands behind the co-pilot's seat during a ride over Lincoln Monday afternoon in a WW II-era B-17 bomber operated by the Experimental Aircraft Association. (Eric Gregory)
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The Experimental Aircraft Association will display and sell flights on its restored B17 Tuesday and Wednesday at Silverhawk Aviation. The public is invited to take free walk-around tours. Interior tours cost $5 (discounts for families, kids or groups). A 20-minute flight costs $399 if booked in advance or $425 for walk-ups. There are discounts for EAA members. Call (800) 359-6217 or go to www.b17.org. The Lincoln information number is 219-0111.

Anyone can admire the classic lines of a B-17, but Schock’s feelings about the plane go much deeper. About every guy who ever flew a B-17 in World War II will say the aircraft got them through combat they never should have survived.

On Monday, the 89-year-old Falls City man was one of two veterans who got to fly again in a B-17. The Experimental Aircraft Association, which owns the plane, took them up on flights intended to promote the B-17’s visit to Lincoln.

Dick Miller, 88, of Lincoln, was the other veteran. Like Schock, Miller was stationed in England as part of the 8th Air Force and flew bomber missions over Germany.

“I never brought one back with fewer than seven holes in it,” Miller said Monday.

On March 15, 1945, during his 13th mission, the plane sustained severe damage from antiaircraft fire and was limping along on 1½ engines when he knew they wouldn’t make it back. But Miller said he was able to belly the plane into a field without losing any of his nine crew members.

By April 1, they had made it to a Russian air base in Poland, where they were flown back to England. Miller, a retired architect who still holds a private pilot’s license, said he hadn’t flown in a B-17 since 1946.

A few minutes later, the plane had taken off with Miller in a seat of honor behind the co-pilot. Watching from the ground, his wife, Kaye, said her husband rarely talks about his war experiences.

“This is pretty exciting for him,” she said.

About 20 minutes later, as he stepped back onto the tarmac at Silverhawk Aviation, he wore a big smile.

He didn’t recognize the instrument panel, he said. But the tight quarters, the noise and the view from the cockpit brought back lots of memories.

“It was a perfect flight.”

Schock and his 35-year-old grandson, Jason, joined eight media representatives for the second flight. A crew member gave them a safety briefing before they climbed aboard.

“The only fun I ever had on a B-17 was when we buzzed Falls City for a half hour the day before we flew overseas,” he said.

Outside, the plane may be beautiful to look at, but inside, it’s bare bones function — narrow walkways, nylon mesh seats, no pressurization and lots of Army-green paint. A pair of .50-caliber machine guns point out the B-17’s waist as a reminder of the plane’s former purpose.

The four, 1,200-horsepower engines roared, and the plane generated a tremendous racket when it lifted off the ground. As the Flying Fortress gained altitude, the volume dropped a little and a cooling breeze flowed through the plane.

Schock stood behind the co-pilot’s seat, a seat he occupied on many of his 25 missions. He absorbed every second of the flight, which ended too soon.

“It was real fun to be in the airplane again, especially when they weren’t shooting at you,” he said.

He walked around the plane to the nose and showed his grandson the hatch he parachuted from 64 years ago as flames engulfed his B-17 over Germany.

It was all that needed to be said. The grandson knew his grandfather spent the following 13 months in a German prison camp.

He survived it all and spent his life publishing his hometown newspaper. Monday’s flight was his second in a B-17 since the war; the first took place about five years ago.

As time puts distance between him and the war, he said, it hardly seems possible he did what he did.

As it turns out, the days of disbelief haven’t ended.

“I can’t believe that 63 years later, I’m riding in one.”

Reach Joe Duggan at 473-7239 or jduggan@journalstar.com.


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CS wrote on July 1, 2008 9:21 am:
" 400 dollars? Is that a WHOLE 400? Sure, Ill just write a check. It doesn't make a lot of sense to allow living history demonstrations and then price it out of the reach or pretty much anyone. Just a thought. "

Cool Plane wrote on July 1, 2008 9:30 am:
" I live off the north end of the runway and I was home yesterday afternoon. I heard this throaty roar that modern planes simply don't make, so I jumped up and ran to a window just in time to see this beauty zoom by the house. It's a great airplane, and it saved a lot of airmen's lives. "

IFlewIt wrote on July 1, 2008 10:46 am:
" At $400, CS, they are barely breaking even. You think $4 auto gas is expensive? Call SilverHawk and ask how much it costs to fill-up a B-17. And remember that those big, round, Studebaker motors are in no way thrifty. The idea was to take the war to Hitler, not to save a nickel doing it. Then, let's recall that this is one of about a dozen examples left in the world--where do you get your parts when your B-17 needs them? Add in some insurance to cover potential lawsuits (I actually flew the airplane, a decade ago. They no longer can offer that) and the fact that they aren't making any more of these and $400, I am sure you will agree, is a tremendous bargain. "

Erik wrote on July 1, 2008 10:47 am:
" I remember I rode on a similar plane I believe last September. I think it cost about $100 per person to ride on it for 15 minutes. The reason it costs so much is because how are the people that maintain the 10 planes going to pay for the maintenance? Think about it. "

heliodoc wrote on July 1, 2008 10:49 am:
" Check out aviation fuel 100 LL for right around 5.75 /gal and each engine roughly eating away at 20+ gallons per hour

Check out the airline tickets and jet fuel 6.00/gal

Aviation is not cheap anymore thanks to the fuel folks and lawyers...... "

Socialist CS wrote on July 1, 2008 11:15 am:
" It's not priced out of reach at $400. These things are very expensive to fly and maintain. Does CS expect them to run it at a loss? "

JB wrote on July 1, 2008 12:12 pm:
" I would like to see a "B-24" come to Lincoln. My father flew this plane over Europe and it was the most used bomber in WWII. I believe they have a B-17 at the Offut Air Museum. "

CS wrote on July 1, 2008 6:36 pm:
" I'm not a socialist, and I am well aware of the price of fuel and maintenance-even for military vehicles, since i've worked on some. The point is that if they want to do a living history demonstration that does some good, they should seek out some sponsors to help with the cost. 400.00 is in the reach of what, maybe a few hundred people in Lincoln and the surrounding area at most? I certainly don't drop 400 on a lark for anything, I'm too busy feeding my family and paying bills-and I make over median income, for Lincoln. The interest they could have generated by lowering the price might have inspired some younger people to look at aviation, or read about WWII, or thank a Vet. Instead, at 400.00 a shot, it was nothing more than a 20 minute joyride for those rich enough to afford it, or fortunate enough to fly in it again so the paper had a story. "