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Letters, 4/27: Statistics mean little

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Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 - 11:09:33 pm CDT

Once again, Roger Conrad has attempted to justify the U.S. presence in Iraq (Community Column, LJS, April 19). This time he spouts numbers as if he got them on sale at Wal-Mart. Something interesting about all those numbers, though. If you add them and divide by 47 you get 4,475. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing, just like his 4,600 people who died from choking. (I was almost victim 4,601 trying to absorb the meaning of all that!) This diversionary maneuver is a smokescreen that clouds, not clarifies.

He does give passing acknowledgment to the 4,000-plus who have lost their lives. However, he fails to mention that for those lives there are mothers, fathers, wives, children, brothers and sisters who also have been permanently affected. Put those numbers “into perspective.”

According to Conrad, the average monthly number of military deaths decreased, ostensibly because of the surge, from 92.25 to 38.75. I’m sure that provides only average comfort to the families of those who died during this period.

He blithely dismisses the obscene monetary cost of the war as, “unfortunately, in the billions” (didn’t have space for all those zeros, I guess). But this is justified as the “price … of a freely elected … democracy in the heart of the Islamic world.” Good luck keeping that church/state separation intact!

I commend Conrad for his service to our country. His repeated attempts to justify our current presence in Iraq, especially with cold, irrelevant statistics, are contrary to this service.

Larry McClung, Lincoln

Benefits of flood control

In response to Roy E. Swanson’s letter (LJS, April 21), we wanted to provide some additional information on flood control benefits of the project. The Natural Resources District’s Stevens Creek Project includes 10 flood control dams east of Lincoln. For each dam, the NRD purchased easements for flood control only, leaving land-use decisions to the landowner and zoning regulations.

The nine completed dams are far enough away from Lincoln’s future growth area that most have no development and only a couple of them have acreage development occurring at this time. The 10th dam, now called Waterford Estates Dam, is nearing completion northeast of 98th and O.

Because of annexation just prior to the NRD acquiring land rights, the landowners negotiated to redesign the dam and create an “urban lake” that also provides flood control benefits. At the NRD’s insistence, all additional costs were paid by the landowners, and the redesigned dam provides the same amount of flood control benefits.

Flooding has been a problem in the watershed, and the capacity of the Waterford Estates Dam was increased from a 100-year design to be able to handle a 500-year runoff event, similar to Holmes Lake Dam. After a 100-year rainfall, the lake level will rise 7.5 feet and then slowly recede after the flooding has subsided, reducing flooding downstream.

The NRD operates and maintains the Waterford Estates Dam, while the landowners will maintain the lake, shoreline, silt removal and determine if they pump their wells to keep their lake full during dry conditions.

The NRD is also concerned about how pumping of these wells or other irrigation wells in the vicinity might impact the local groundwater resources and the many domestic wells on Lincoln’s edge. We are hopeful that pumping will be managed properly by all well owners, including those at Waterford Estates.

Ron Case, Lincoln, chairman, Lower Platte South Natural Resources District

Felons in the military?

I read the news brief in the April 22 edition of the Journal Star stating: “The Army and Marine Corps brought in significantly more recruits with felony convictions last year than in 2006, including some with manslaughter and sex crime convictions. Data released by a congressional committee show the numbers of soldiers admitted to the Army with felony records jumped from 249 in 2006 to 511 in 2007. And the number of Marines with felonies rose from 208 to 350.” 

My question is: With all of the trouble being attributed to sex/murder crimes being committed by our service personnel in foreign countries such as Japan and Iraq, how can the services enlist these felons? In most states, sex offenders cannot live/work/relax within 1,000 to 2,000 feet of schools,  parks, etc. Does being a member of the military allow these exceptions?

If our country is so pressed for personnel, maybe it would be prudent to return to a national draft rather than to continue what they are doing in an escalating manner.

Robert D. Crampton, Lincoln

Don’t unionize UNL faculty

As a full-time University of Nebraska-Lincoln professor who worked previously at a unionized university in California, I find that I must disagree with the union advocacy position expressed recently by Professor Steve Bradford in the April 23 Lincoln Journal Star.

The Lincoln Journal Star article compares faculty raise percentages for the four NU campuses but does not compare the faculty averages or workloads at each campus. For example, most faculty members at the University of Nebraska at Kearney and at Omaha still earn less than their average peers at UNL, and they teach more classes with fewer resources.

UNL faculty members bring in significantly more external research funds than these those at other campuses, which has allowed UNL to build world-class research facilities that generate more grant funding. Faculty members are rewarded for their performance and initiative, not for their seniority and union membership. For these reasons, no major research university in the United States has a unionized faculty.

The Journal Star reports that the average UNL faculty salary is $83,000. Practically no professors in the humanities or arts will ever earn this annual amount. Engineering, science, medicine and business faculty earn much more. The irony of the article is that Professor Bradford is a member of the College of Law faculty. The average law school salary in 2004 was $115,000 annually.

Unions have had a devastating effect on the quality of university education. In California, New Jersey and other states, unionized universities are forced to cut operating and instructional budgets just to pay higher salaries to fewer employees.

Student tuition in California has close to doubled in the past few years. And just look at what public employee union contracts have done to the budget of the city of Lincoln.

For the quality of our students’ education, and for the respect of the taxpayers of Nebraska, please do not support this very destructive position.

Ed Forde, Lincoln

Half isn’t good enough

Good grief! Government officials “justifiably were pleased” that a tiny bit over half the respondents to a poll say they are “satisfied” with local government and  “think officials can be trusted.”

What business would be pleased with half of its customers being trusting and satisfied? This is a fair question, because most public and private organizations have been convinced they should act as businesses these days.  

I agree that it’s a good idea to seek our input and that there were questions whose answer options were silly and useless. I hope respondents didn’t think the poll was taking a vote to determine what the city will do. Of course, many respondents select “other options” over paying more taxes to have the services we need.

Let’s hope that our decision-makers consider the information they get and then have the guts to do what they were elected or appointed to do. I expect them to make decisions in the best interest of all of us for the short- and long-term, whether that means tax increases or not. (I expect that it will, don’t you?)

Judith M. Gibson, Lincoln


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Give me a break wrote on April 27, 2008 4:58 am:
" Please stop the "hook" issue media politics. OK since ex-felons are such a risk, why do we even let them out of prison in the first place? The military has always been the ONLY true second chance most ex-felons ever get. With business turning them down for employment based on thier record, what are the options you, society create? The military where they can at least have a shot at life, or back to prison. I am en ex-felon who served 23 years in the military when I was given the option in the 60's. The military is a micro representation of US society, with the same problems the civilian world faces. So statistically crime figures are no differant by population numbers. I bet the crime rate at Ft. Benning is quite a bit less than lets say inner city Chicago, Detroit. Where would you feel safer walking at night? Would you be comfortable with an ex-felon living next store, or would you hire one for your business, Mr Crampton, or are you that much of a hypocrit? The investigative and waiver process is quite extensive to get an ex-offender into the military.
They do not contrary to popular belief (now) enlist any and every ex-felon they find for cannon fodder. BTW sex offenses, violent crimes, drug crimes, are NON waiverable, so they are not allowed to enlist. The kid who gets picked up for shoplifting at 17, gets another chance at life at 20, must be terrible for that "felon" to be in the military. Americorps allows felons in, right next to your 17 year old daughter, great program there to Bill Clinton. "

Gerard Harbison wrote on April 27, 2008 7:40 am:
" Professor Forde is misinformed. The State University of New York is unionized. SUNY campuses at Stony Brook and Buffalo are certainly major research universities. According to the NRC, Stony Brook ranks 20th nationally in Mathematics (UNL 83rd), 22nd in Physics (UNL 78th), 46th in Chemistry (UNL 65th), 31st in Biochemistry (UNL 77th)...you get the picture.

I'm not a big fan of unionized faculty, either, but I'm coming to the conclusion that our administration and Regents have left UNL's faculty with no alternative. "

Mystic Mike wrote on April 27, 2008 8:26 am:
" Larry,
You hit the nail right on the head...... "

herbieleroy wrote on April 27, 2008 8:26 am:
" in response to "half isn't good enough" look at the election results that put most if not all of our public officials into "power" They were elected by a majority of less than 36% in almost all cases when you take into account how many qualified voters actually voted Your are right half isn't good enough neither is ONE THIRD! "

Tod wrote on April 27, 2008 11:31 am:
" I don't think there is anything Larry McClung and myself agree upon. He is the anti-Tod. "

dewboy wrote on April 27, 2008 11:49 am:
" If Stevens Creek was and is so prone to flooding it should not be developed. I bet the so-called Waterford Estate Dam increased the value of the land surrounding the lake Sounds like a sly move by someone with City of Lincoln connections. This will turn out like Holmes Lake (Dam) as it will fill with silt and then guess who gets the tab for silt removal. Very strange that the NRD spent so much time and money on Stevens Creek development and so little on Salt CReek flooding problems "

Tax payer wrote on April 27, 2008 11:50 am:
" So the professor's don't think they are payed enough. Well that is the way it is and the pay will just go lower it is called the new world order. Everyone,s pay has been going down why not the professor they are no better than anyone else. And as they say those that can do those that can't teach. "

Thanks Larry wrote on April 27, 2008 1:19 pm:
" For proving the point that liberals cannot acknowledge being wrong and that they are not capable of seeing a comparison rather than a justification. Conrad did discuss the families of those who have died. Perhaps you should read the column with your eyes open. No, never mind. You would probably just get sand in your eyes, what with your head buried in the sand and all. "

Historian wrote on April 27, 2008 1:41 pm:
" By the way Larry describes it I still wonder how we as a society managed to survive the 1941-1945 war. By records FDR knew the Japanese were going to attack, so he should have been ready. Should not have provoked Germany or Japan with trade restrictions and American warships escorting convoys to England prior to Dec 11. So did FDR actually start the wars for the benifit of the Ford's, Rockafeller's and other industrial giants to further stimulate the depression economy, and to enrich his freinds and political backers. By end of 1944 we were broke, tired of the war, KIA casualities over 125,000, and needed a morale and financial boost. Read or watch "Flags of our Father's", what was the intend of the War Bond tour of the flag raisers. Thank god for a few marines and a Flag raised on Suribachi, or by Larry's analogy we would have quit, brought our troops home and hope Japan does not try to expand again.
Today we do not have rationing, travel restrictions, and other issues as faced by our grandparents during thier war. Yet they managed to survive and actually win the war. How could they have done that? If people like Larry were around to manipulate numbers and facts for an alternative ending eganda. Wonder how many today would not be here if thier grandfathers died on the beaches of mainland Japan? Because as we all know the A-Bombs were not "justified" in the minds of those marine's children or grandchildren, based on a manipulation of facts, totally based on an agenda.
Yes, History can be used as a comparison, by those who see history for what it was, not for what they wish it could of been. "

Think of this... wrote on April 27, 2008 4:39 pm:
" Let them unionize the faculty at UNL. Then there will be union dues to pay that will draw even more from their paychecks than what they now receive and may realize they didn't have it too bad in the first place! "

MarkyMark wrote on April 28, 2008 11:21 am:
" I absolutely agree with Larry. One can't help wonder if all were the same, but Slick Willy Clinton would have taken us into Iraq, how Mr. Conrad would be dealing with this war and rationalizing it. My guess is that he wouldn't be sticking up for the Slickster, as he has no "R" behind his name. "

Zoomie wrote on April 28, 2008 11:58 am:
" Had Clinton taken us into Iraq on the same evidence as Bush in 1998/1999/2000, I have absolutely no doubt he would have been impeached! Let's not forget, his launching missles at bin-Laden brought overwhelming GOP condemnation of his "waste" of millions of tax dollars on a nobody (even as those same GOPers today whine he didn't try hard enough). His sending troops into Kosovo to stop genocide (without a single combat loss of life) brought the GOP to the floor of Congress to vote on a bill to cut off all funding to our troops (imagine how the GOP would scream and whine on FauxNews if Democrats did the same thing today)! So I think its obvious what would have happened had a Democrat done what Bush has done...impeachment! "

JR wrote on April 28, 2008 1:40 pm:
" Larry, count me in as another Anti Tod. There are so many of us, we should form a club, as 70%of the country agrees with you. What confuses me is how anyone can call themselves "Historian" and then make up falsehoods to wrap around their viewpoint in order to make their argument. No true "Historian" would ever confuse the Bush War in Iraq with WWI or II. And anyone who does, does a great disservice to all those who fought for our freedom. "Historian", you should be ashamed of yourself. "

Gen Petraeus Says wrote on April 28, 2008 2:22 pm:
" Gen Petraeus says "this war cannot be won on the battlefield, it has to be diplomatic". Bush Jr acts like Petraeus word is gospel, then ignores his opion on this. Oh thats right, "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here." Wouldn't u think an undertaking like this would have been thought out before jumping in headfirst? Rumsfeld and Wolfowicz should be in prison along with W, for crimes against God, Man, and Nature. "

Grundle wrote on April 28, 2008 4:13 pm:
" Had Clinton taken us into Iraq on the same evidence as Bush in 1998/1999/2000, I have absolutely no doubt that the bobble-head Democrats would still be singing his praises. The Democrats have had control of Congress for over a year now, yet no impeachment proceedings...why is that? "

Chad Miller wrote on May 7, 2008 2:17 pm:
" In regards to Judith Gibsons letter that "Half isn't good enough",when it comes to our governments performance and trustability...I myself am in a state of shell shock with this daily unfolding train-wreck that seems to be the way of life in these our United States nowadays.Between Bushs' unrepentant dedication to incompetence and bankrupting our country,as well as the Democrats' unswerving diligence to assist him in that endeavor wanting us as American's to support their subliminal socialist philosophies buried in their rhetoric...I wonder just who exactly conducted this poll and who did they poll?It wasn't me.Was it you maybe?Like I've heard mentioned...Of all the millions of people we have in America,these 3 questionable examples are the best our country could produce to give "WE THE PEOPLE" a choice from?(Nothing though against McCaine.Of the three he's the most deserving of respect given his genuine service and sacrifice for our country)It's still a perplexing mystery to me how O'Bama(with such a glaringly insufficient political resume),could achieve an almost Messianic grandeur as to be deserving of running for the office of President of the United States,in such a brief period of time.(I know there's a few million other conveniently censored American's who wonder the same thing.)AND Hillary Clinton??!!Well,I just said it all right there.But I digress...I'd like to know how they even managed to get a dozen folks (let alone half)in this poll to express anything near to being considered approval of this circus we've got going on in Washington?And why do so many have to suffer for the subversive,self-serving, political ambitions,and corruptibility of so few? S'cuse me while I go ask Mr. Owl THAT question.... "