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At least four from Ag Committee like Grand Island as fair site

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BY ART HOVEY / Lincoln Journal Star

Wednesday, Mar 26, 2008 - 08:09:56 pm CDT

At least four of the eight members of the Legislature’s Agriculture Committee regard Grand Island as the best site for the Nebraska State Fair if it moves from Lincoln’s State Fair Park.

Committee Chairman Phil Erdman of Bayard, still working Wednesday to broker a deal that could convert the fairgrounds to a research campus, was not willing to state a preference for a new location.

Only one senator, Norm Wallman of Cortland, wants to move the fair to near the Lancaster Event Center in northeast Lincoln.

Sen. Don Preister of Omaha wants to keep the event in Lincoln, although, he said, “I can live with Grand Island.”

The eighth member, M.L. “Cap” Dierks of Ewing, is mostly worried about keeping the cost of any move in check.

Although committee members are starting to stake out personal positions, Erdman has yet to schedule the executive session needed to advance a bill to the floor.

“We are down to crunch time,” Dierks said. Nonetheless, “I want to give Sen. Erdman all the discretion I can because he’s the one who’s done all the groundwork on this.”

Erdman had tentatively scheduled an executive session for Wednesday. It didn’t happen, and his new forecast is “soon. That’s the new time and the new date is soon.”

The possibility of moving the fair from its century-old home made it to the Legislature’s agenda in 2007 after a group of Lincoln civic and business leaders proposed the University of Nebraska be allowed to develop a public and private research partnership at State Fair Park.

But the companion concept of moving the fair to near the Lancaster Event Center met with strong resistance from the State Fair Board.

 Disagreement over who would cover costs — estimated as low as $35 million and as high as $175 million for building a new fairgrounds, most likely in either Lincoln or Grand Island — also threatened to quash the idea entirely.

Erdman said he remained optimistic about reaching a negotiated agreement in continuing talks with the fair board, the university, Grand Island officials and a Lincoln group organized as Friends of Innovation Park.

“There’s still time to get this done and it’s still possible to get it done,” he said.

He’s also prepared for other options, “and one of the options is to kill all bills and leave the fair where it is.”

The committee’s current priority bill would require the university to offer $30 million in compensation for taking over State Fair Park, or its appraised value, whichever is higher.

Various amendments are also possible, including an alternative advanced earlier by Sen. Ron Raikes of Lincoln that would remove the fair by 2012 and sort out its destination and any financial implications later.

Along the way, Gov. Dave Heineman has been providing his perspective. Heineman reportedly told the Nebraska Chamber of Commerce and Industry on Tuesday the fair appears headed for Grand Island.

That fits with the preferences of several members of the Agriculture Committee, including Sen. Vickie McDonald of St. Paul.

“I say that, because as we’ve looked at all the proposals, I feel that Grand Island has the most to offer,” McDonald said in a brief interview Wednesday. “They have a considerable amount of infrastructure already in place.”

Also, according to McDonald, “they want it for all the right reasons, and that would be to bring back the agricultural focus that has always been the primary reason for the fair.”

Sens. Russ Karpisek of Wilber and Annette Dubas of Fullerton also favor Grand Island, although Dubas said, “My whole decision will be based on the financial picture and what we can afford to do.”

Even Sen. Ernie Chambers of Omaha, who has never made any secret of his indifference to the fair, said putting it in Grand Island ranks right behind its abolishment in his personal inclinations.

“I think the state fair is an anachronism,” he said, “but if it is to have any relevance, it should be somewhere other than where it is now.”

Karpisek expressed some frustration with all the outside predictions on what the Legislature might do, including those coming from the governor.

“There’s been so much ‘foregone conclusion,’” he said.

If matters move to the floor, Lincoln Sen. Bill Avery has a notion of what he would do.

“If I am faced with a choice of keeping the fair in Lincoln or getting the research park for the university, I would go with the research park for the university,” Avery said.

Fellow Lincoln Sen. Danielle Nantkes said Grand Island would be her first choice of alternative sites. “In terms of governance and finance issues, I’m not sure the 84th Street location is the best fit.”

But Nantkes said it’s important for the Agriculture Committee to finish its work before the local legislative delegation weighs in strongly, either as individuals or collectively.

Committee member Preister said there’s some advantage to the tightening schedule in coming to some sort of resolution.

“I detect the pressure cooker getting hotter for all parties as the clock ticks away,” he said. “There’s more pressure to compromise and come to some agreement.”

Reach Art Hovey at 473-7223 or at ahovey@journalstar.com.


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Fair Game wrote on March 26, 2008 7:59 pm:
" Move! The! Fair! Move! The! Fair! "

Who is Norm Wallman wrote on March 26, 2008 8:07 pm:
" Who elected that guy? "

joe wrote on March 26, 2008 9:26 pm:
" What happens to the racetrack? Fonner tried to get out of racing all together this year. You senators better realize that there are a lot of fans, horsemen, hay growers rtc. as your constituents! "

What! wrote on March 26, 2008 9:28 pm:
" I'll never go out to G.I for the fair. What a mistake! "

Russ A lincoln wrote on March 26, 2008 9:36 pm:
" I am just wondering what it would be like to live in a town where its not run by a university or by contractors it must be nice well maybe one day i will be able to get out of Lincoln and see what its like "

Lincoln Doesn't Want It wrote on March 26, 2008 9:40 pm:
" We have not done anything to keep the fair here in Lincoln. If this were Omaha we would do it right to keep it. Move it to Grand Island where they're willing to put up the money to keep it. Sell the land to UNL or donors who will put research buildings at the current site to help finance the move. "

Mark wrote on March 26, 2008 10:01 pm:
" I think it should stay in Lincoln by law "

no thanks wrote on March 26, 2008 10:05 pm:
" I will not attend the Fair in Grand Island, if it comes to that. I like to see the Heritage Village when I go to the fair. What will happen to Heritage Village? No one seems to care. State Fairs are usually held in the CAPITAL, not in smaller populated cities.

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Thank Commissioner Bob wrote on March 26, 2008 10:33 pm:
" Lincoln and Lancaster officials dont seem to have no problem loosing 28 million a year the fair generates to the local economy plus the millions the fairgrounds create throughout the year. These are the same officials (Lancaster County Board) that created restrictions to prevent a Drag Racing facility as well. A facility that would have created 10-23 million a year to the local Lincoln economy. What happened to private enterprise to create revenue for the city of Lincoln? Lincoln officials just see dollars signs from the University...and thats all. To sad for the rest of Nebraska taxpayers to keep Lincoln alive. "

My Vote wrote on March 26, 2008 10:34 pm:
" My vote is going to strongly correlate to this decision. Those senators who decide to lay down to the bullying of UNL and who give up the Fair to a certain death outside of Lincoln will be significantly less likely to get my vote. That's bad news for Sen. Avery. This is a Democratic voter who will be sitting it out if he gets his way. "

To no thanks wrote on March 26, 2008 11:07 pm:
" Then why is Colorado's in Pueblo instead of Denver and Kansas' in Hutchinson instead of Topeka? "

Devils Advocate wrote on March 26, 2008 11:12 pm:
" Looking around us, ONLY Iowa has the state fair in the Capitol. It seems smaller cities, Hutchinson,KS, Douglas,WY, Huron,SD. Pueblo,CO and Sedalia, MO, are the norm in our neighboring states. Maybe there is a "more caring attitude" in smaller cities. "

Fair to taxpayers? wrote on March 26, 2008 11:17 pm:
" This needs to be decided by the citizens on the ballot, how about on the general election ballot? Not by special interests who don't have 20/20 vision. "

L wrote on March 26, 2008 11:44 pm:
" If the fair moves to G.I. there will be no more going to the fair on school nights for my teens which usually go every night they can. I personally will never go. If they don't like the 84th st location there were others to look at. Gee why don't we just move the football team to G.I. too? "

no way! wrote on March 27, 2008 12:01 am:
" The fair should stay in Lincoln, it is the capital for the state on every map you look at. It is called the state fair for a reason. Grand Island does not have the means to host the state fair in my opinion. Has anyone been there lately? Where is anyone going to stay? Can't people just be happy? Change is not a good idea in this matter, and I am a person who likes change, but no this on, let it GO!! "

Russ wrote on March 27, 2008 12:13 am:
" Lincoln's first priority should be the research park. If they want to move the fair to GI, so be it. It will eventually die there. Yeah, they might be able to sustain it for a few year, but eventually the novelty will wear off and GI does not have the population to support it long-term. "

fair goer wrote on March 27, 2008 1:07 am:
" Well all us Lincolnite and Omaha people will just have to travel across the river to Iowa and go to a really great fair instead of going to Grand Island. "

Joe wrote on March 27, 2008 1:26 am:
" If Lincoln loses the state fair, don't be so quick to blame the Mayor or Lincoln 2015 or the legislature or the university. Put the blame where it belongs...the state fair board. Their inability to compromise or even discuss possibilities in the Lincoln area is indicative of their long standing feud with the Lancaster Event Center, even to the point of losing the fair. I attended all of the public hearings and was very disappointed when the state fair board gave the weakest presentations of all. Rather than testify to the merits of their own proposals, they were content to "bad mouth" the Lancaster Event Center and act as poster boys for the Grand Island Chamber of commerce. Now it appears that they are about to abandon their loyal fairgoers and make a vindictive move to present a second rate fair in GI. Some would call it the "Central Nebraska Fair". We should not berate the many loyal fairgoers who say they will not attend a second rate fair in Grand Island. After all, the state fair board has abandoned them, why should they not abandon the fair when it is parked in Grand Island? I have an idea....let's count heads after the new MODERN one mile race track and grandstand is built at the Event Center. More exhibit halls and improvements will follow to accommodate the displaced fairgoers abandoned by the state fair board. Maybe the Heritage Village and some of the other state fair attractions could be moved there. Lincoln has a need for an event center. Let's support the Lancster Event Center and make it a premier fair and event site. All the requirements listed in the consultant's report ich is being ignored by the state fair board) are in place here to make it happen. You might be surprised how many abandoned fairgoers will prefer Lincoln to Grand Island. "

i will not go to GI wrote on March 27, 2008 3:34 am:
" I will not go to the fair in GI either... just in my family that would be 9 less people per year... and we usually go 3-4 times each year when its here... but not in GI "

LOL wrote on March 27, 2008 7:11 am:
" The infrastructure in Grand Island is better than Lincoln! That spells BUILD THE ARENA/CONVENTION CENTER! "

Straight Thinker wrote on March 27, 2008 7:17 am:
" Who will go to GI on weekday evenings after work? In Lincoln, a lot of people do...otherwise the Fair is rather deserted during the week. Can GI afford to build it without taxing their people to death? This whole thing all boils down to a personality conflict, nothing more and nothing less. The County Ag Society doesn't get along with the State Fair board...and so now we will lose the Fair because of that? That is not thinking very straight. "

hattie wrote on March 27, 2008 7:58 am:
" Just think of all of the room for practicing sports at the state fair site. U of N will not be faced with having to raise the price of football tickets to $75.00 and a $5,000 donation (required). Can the fair. "

Lost Cause wrote on March 27, 2008 8:00 am:
" I can see how the western part of Nebraska would benefit with the state fair in the middle of the state, but I think it will be a failure there. The population in Nebraska is mainly in the eastern third. People will not travel and have to pay more costs to attend. This will not work in that location. I think it should be located close to the interstate between Lincoln and Omaha. "

Fair fan wrote on March 27, 2008 8:01 am:
" Keep it where it's located, if not, then move it to Grand Island or anywhere other than Lincoln. Grand Island doesn't have the hotels, motels to house people, and I doubt if they want to build more if there aren't other events to keep them full, but it's better than moving it to anyplace in Lincoln. And by the way, the UNL is not going to pay for any of the land, they're going to confiscate it for their own for free. Most of the folks that want it moved are the ones that don't go to the fair, I'd like to get rid of something they like, just because I don't like it. See what they'd think of that! "

mark wrote on March 27, 2008 8:19 am:
" Please, please don't use the phrase, "our beautiful fairgrounds" when commenting on this article. You lose all credibility when you lead with that statement.
OK, resume NostalgiaRama; prepare for the 21st Century. "

MJ wrote on March 27, 2008 8:30 am:
" Why isn't anyone talking about the $2 million that is being diverted from the environmental trust annually to pay for building repair at the state fair. If it moves, these funds go down the drain. Regardless of where the fair goes, legislators should stop diverting these funds intended for the environment. Come on Lincoln Journal Star, why don't you report on this. "

Ghost wrote on March 27, 2008 8:37 am:
" Why does the research park have to be at the fair grounds location? Why can't it go to the West of the Haymarket area? Lincoln City Officials say that they want to bring in more big ticket events, but they continue to push them all away. If the Fair goes to Grand Island, I can promise you that it will be a big mistake and a big failure. Yes, they may have the infrastructure in place, but they don't have the biggest item needed to keep it going and that would be people to attend. Most of the people attending the fair now are from Omaha, Lincoln, and 30 mi around Lincoln. I've done my own study, and it didn't cost me millions to determine, and found that the people that are in favor of moving the fair to Grand Island are those people that don't go to the fair. A good percent are those that would rather see Lincoln as a ghost town. I think that those people should move to Grand Island. With gas prices what they are do these people really think that the people from Lincoln and Omaha will travel to Grand Island for the fair. If it does move to Grand Island it will become an up scale version of their present county fair. It will be the tax payer that will end up paying for this, but the tax payer will not be given a chance to voice their oppinion with a vote on the election ballot. I still am in favor of leaving the fair where it is, save the tax payers the expense and tell the University to look elsewhere. "

JAZZY wrote on March 27, 2008 8:39 am:
" The fair should be in Lincoln. My family and I will bot attend if not in Lincoln . I live outside of Lincoln adn won't go to GI. This would be downplaying the fair. The State Fair made a big mistake when they run the farm machinery dealers out of the fair displays, by raising the price to display. This brought a lot of out-of-town people to the area. This wil not bring any extra revue to area. And as for new jobs with the UNL project. Good Luck I think it's a big mistake to let the University take over where ever they want to. KEEP THE FAIR IN LINCOLN "

mitchy_v wrote on March 27, 2008 8:54 am:
" Keeping the fair in lincoln will kill it. Move it to GI and give it a chance to revive itself. Lincoln has proven over the past decade that they don't care for it. They now say that they want it so nobody else can have it, or if we can't have it, nobody can. Ammend the law. Keep your options open. "

Disagree wrote on March 27, 2008 9:13 am:
" If the fair moves to Grand Island it will die. Who wants to drive that far and have no place to stay. A lot of people attend durning the week because it is in Lincoln. Who would drive for 3 hours round trip durning a work week? Not I. Leave it in Lincoln. "

ck wrote on March 27, 2008 9:37 am:
" moving the fair to gi is a great idea...but lincoln and lincolnites would be fools to let it happen. acceptence that the fair has to move needs to come then make it happen in LINCOLN. people from rural areas love to come to the city, to visit, buy gas, clothes, supplies, food, motel rooms, the university needs to expand. it's a win win if people would just get on with it. make the majority happy with a location, but if lincoln loses it, the impact will be felt for years. oh, and who cares what the fair board has to say, as soon as they run a profitable fair i'll listen "

Jim wrote on March 27, 2008 9:55 am:
" Well to those of you that think it should stay in Lincoln because fair are held in the capital, or because lincoln has some "birthright" to the fair your wrong. Actually very few state fairs are in the capitals, South Dakota, Kansas, Missouri, Wyoming, Colorado and many others are not held in the capital, or even the largest city. Being the site for the state fair is and should be an honor, I am not sure that Lincoln deserves that honor anymore.

We as residents of Lincoln need to embrace what the fair means to the state, not just what some think is good for Lincoln. We need to make everyone feel welcome not just welcome under our terms and conitions. In the face of poor economic times is it the smartest thing to spend millons and millons NOW. There will always be time for a R&D Park and maybe with a little time UNL and Lincoln can learn to work with others and utilize building and space they already have and realize that Nebraska tax payers pockets are not overflowing with cash. UNL and the city of Lincoln are not going to just fold up and die without this research park, nor will they die with or without the fair. The bigger question is how many times do we disrepect the residents of the state before they say the heck with Lincoln. If the leaders in Lincoln think that we can just push everyone around and they will keep coming we are mistaken. We need the people of western/outstate Nebraska to come to town to spend money shopping, eating and sleeping, we can't do it on our own Lincoln. "

sgb wrote on March 27, 2008 10:22 am:
" I'm tried of hearing about moiving the fair. Let it move to Grand Island, I and my family won't being going there. Good luck. "

Phil Wharton wrote on March 27, 2008 10:22 am:
" It seems to me that alot of the people commenting, state they will not travel to Grand Island to go to the Fair. Well, let me ask you a couple of questions. 1. Why should citizens of western Ne have to do all the traveling? Are you too stubborn to go west. I bet you travel to other states on vacation. Well, spend your money supporting Ne activities. 2. If you own a business, would you like it if the customers went somewhere else to buy the same product that they use to purchase from you? Even though you only moved your store from one side of Lincoln to the other side. Come on, true Nebraskans would support the Fair, no matter where it is located. If you can't be a little flexible, maybe you should move out of the State. "

Joe is right wrote on March 27, 2008 10:42 am:
" The Fair Board needs to be dissolved and redone. It's a bunch of bickering old people who have done nothing for the Fair for the last 20 yrs except sit on their hands and ask for money. So they got lottery money to fix-up and improve the Fair, where has it gone? Why has this place become such a trainwreck? How has any of those people benefitted the Fair? No innovation, improvement in entertainment, facilities, infrastructure, parking, nothing! Good riddance. "

mark wrote on March 27, 2008 10:47 am:
" 'we need outstate Nebraskans to come to Lincoln to eat, etc. . . we can't do it on our own.' That's exactly the point of developing Innovation Park. A city or a state can't be dependent on retail taxes (or construction of retirement facilities) from a aging, dwindling populace. This is exactly the time to move forward (since it didn't happen 30 years ago), and insulate the city against economic ripples.
I didn't vote for Beutler, but he is showing leadership and moxie to move Lincoln into the 20th Century.
"Status quo is the only Latin I care to know" "

mitchy_v wrote on March 27, 2008 11:15 am:
" Many western nebraskans own these things called campers and would be more than will to take the week off to go to a fair in GI. Many of the comments directed towards them as stated above keep them from wanting to go to Lincoln. Lincoln can still have their county fair in which all of those who don't want to travel could support. You could have the largest fair in the state, but it still wouldn't be the "State Fair". The State Fair is for everyone, not just the eastern third. "

OOOOhh That Smell! wrote on March 27, 2008 12:24 pm:
" I would love to boot the failing state fair out of town. I live near the fairgrounds and I resent having to smell manure on my front porch for 10 days a year. If I wanted to smell manure I'd move to the countryside. "

hmmm wrote on March 27, 2008 12:41 pm:
" i think the fair in grand island will hurt husker harvest days something that has a strong tradition in GI. I don't know if they plan on merging to the 2 or what, but I think that should be a consideration. i think this is a perfect example of how lincoln fails to meet the demands of growing a big city economy. things leave and lincoln doesn't fight for them. IE. state wrestling. lincoln needs to realize what it takes to grow a city and attract people to it. "

ALW wrote on March 27, 2008 1:20 pm:
" Who goes to GI for anything except to see the cranes, and for that we stay in Kearney. What do they have there? Husker Harvest Days-give me a break. Have any of you been there? I have. It's either hot and extremely dusty or it rains and it's mud every where. Have fun GI. My family and I (parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and kids will not attend.) FYI my grandfather attended DAILY to drive his antique tractor. Not any more. I think it's asking a bit much for old guys to drive four hours a day round trip to participate in a parade, don't you agree? I feel bad for him and his friends. They loved doing this. "

Race Fan wrote on March 27, 2008 1:25 pm:
" Where are the Horseman in this debate. The Horse Race track has supported the State Fair financially for many years. They need to start yelling and screaming - the Fair belongs on 84th street with a Mile Horse Race Track and they can help make this happen. Are they lobbying the Senators in question? Moving the Fair out of Lincoln makes no sense - the 84th street location is fine - if they are worried about downtown hotels - run shuttle buses we have plenty of city buses no one is using! Give the University a break - they have good reason for wanting this land. "

Marisol wrote on March 27, 2008 4:51 pm:
" Seriously, there is NO WAY I am driving out to Grand Island for the fair. If you people want to lose the Lincoln attendance at the fair, go right ahead and move it out there. "

jtf wrote on March 27, 2008 6:45 pm:
" people where do you live that it takes you 2hrs to get to G.I.?? it is only a one hour drive to G.I. from lincoln. I go there once a month. and how many of you drive 45mins to Omaha once a week or even daily? why cant you drive an extra 15mins to G.I. to support NE

the people of G.I. and the large number of small towns around the area will more than make up for all the upset people in lincoln that wont go b/c its no longer convenient. The tri-cities will support the state fair the way lincoln used to 25yrs ago. I Live in lincoln and I will be making the SHORT drive to G.I. for the fair "