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Monday, Mar 10, 2008 - 12:29:56 am CDT

I am appalled and angry to read (LJS, March 3) that Sens. Ben Nelson and Chuck Hagel supported a letter to the Interior Department requesting the ban on the carrying of loaded weapons in national parks be repealed in favor of local and state laws.

Sens. Nelson and Hagel have listened to the National Rifle Association about changing a 25-year ban on loaded weapons in national parks.

If the senators really believe the Second Amendment guarantees individuals the right to bear arms, they should publicly ask the Interior Department to specifically allow, say, grenade launchers in the new rules.  

In any case, I don’t want to visit Yellowstone National Park and come upon Dick Cheney with a loaded weapon of any kind.

Rodger Harris, Lincoln

Worry about citizens first

Last week Gov. Dave Heineman was correct about the killing of LB963 angering people. I am one of the many. I hope to be clear enough for our lawmakers to get the point.

Last week, a Nebraska legislative committee killed LB963 that would exclude illegal immigrants from receiving state benefits. I personally challenge you (state lawmakers) to start being prudent with our tax money.

What part of the word illegal do our lawmakers not understand? Illegal immigrants are breaking the law and are not entitled to benefits, period. Americans should not tolerate or be required to support the illegal immigrants whose own countries should be supporting them.

Lawmakers should understand that the money and benefits so freely given away to illegal immigrants come from us, the legal resident taxpayers of Nebraska. Lawmakers need to quit pandering to the rich special interest groups wanting cheap labor. I challenge them to start working for the quiet (so far) majority, the legal residents who elected them to office.

Illegal immigration is only one of America’s problems, but it’s as good an issue as any to start fixing. Look, I don’t want to see anyone on earth go hungry, American or otherwise. However, our country is broke and not the rich Uncle Sam of days gone by. America can no longer afford to accept and take care of the world’s poor hungry masses. We cannot currently afford to take care of ourselves, just look at our budget and trade deficits.

Ray L. Ericson, Grand Island

CROPS feeds mouths, souls

Community CROPS, a local nonprofit agency, creates opportunities for hope and renewal for refugee and low-income gardeners by providing land, water, seed, tools and organic methods of gardening.

Five years ago, this community garden program in Lincoln started with one garden on city property at 23rd and P that met the needs of just more than a dozen people. Today, this program has grown to 11 community gardens serving more than 300 refugee and low-income gardeners. Most of these gardens are managed in partnership with churches, nonprofits, landowners, businesses and the city of Lincoln.

As a result of CROPS community gardens, neighborhood residents, immigrants and refugee gardeners can provide healthy and nutritious food for their families and renew bodies and spirits through gardening.

Furthermore, the community gardens provide green zones that locals and children passing by can enjoy as oases in their community. Community CROPS not only contributes to the needs of the landless, providing hope and nutritious food, but it enables gardeners to share their skills and work to enrich the local community.

At CROPS’ 15-acre farm site, 12 farmers grow vegetables for local marketing in a beginning farmer project. CROPS staff also has worked with more than 100 Lincoln youth, developing gardens and exploring the mysteries of biology, nutrition and environmental renewal.

One of the best-kept secrets in Lincoln, this community garden network provides oases where young and old can celebrate nature and renew body and soul.

John Doran, Lincoln

What will arena really cost?

Lincoln is told by arena consultant John Kaatz that a proposed arena is financially feasible for our city. He has interviewed about a dozen unnamed event promoters who indicate to him a lot of interest in booking more Lincoln events.

The taxpayers of Lincoln are told that this makes economic sense. We are currently providing an annual operations subsidy for the debt-free and 50-year-old Pershing Center, to the tune of $525,000 per year. We might even save subsidy money, says Kaatz, because we would only subsidize the larger new arena to the possible tune of $400,000, but certainly no more than $900,000 per year. Kaatz tells us that cities justify this cost as a means of attracting out-of-towners who drop a load of cash on the city and then graciously leave.

But who are the recipients of this cash? Isn’t it the hotels and restaurants of Lincoln, certainly not the overburdened property taxpayers who must ultimately stand good for any miscalculations made by Kaatz? It would be logical to assume that a lodging tax of 10 percent on hotel rooms would be the right way to pay for this tourist enhancement, but there is already a 12 percent tax on Lincoln hotel rooms.   

If a debt-free Pershing Center costs $525,000 in annual subsidies to taxpayers, what would a facility three times as large, with a $160 million debt to retire, really cost taxpayers annually, ignoring the possibly rosy forecasts of our consultants?

Lincoln would surely benefit from the presence of a new arena if the economic forecasts of our hired consultants could refrain from pie in the sky and address themselves to the specifics of how it may be financed without breaking the backs of an overtaxed Lincoln and Nebraska citizenry.

George Pickard, Lincoln

Affirmative action is needed

Out-of-state wealth is seeking to influence our social values through the anti-affirmative-action petition drive. The proposed constitutional amendment would “prohibit discrimination or preferential treatment. …” It sounds just and fair, but its effect is to allow discrimination and racism to continue to hurt people.

I illustrate this by way of my children’s school experiences some years ago in Omaha. For two years, my children went to a school where the majority of students were black. The school had no library, inadequate help for learning disabilities and overcrowding.

This kind of situation would not have been tolerated in white, affluent west Omaha. That school is gone now, but those children are out in the work force, disadvantaged by their earlier experiences.

To help compensate for poorer educational opportunities, we need affirmative action. Affirmative action doesn’t level the playing field, but it does allow some very qualified people to compete.

Further, while you may trust your own judgment as nondiscriminatory, there is a tendency to prefer those of our own skin color and gender in hiring; we do need affirmative action.

The Rev. Jay E. Schmidt, Lincoln

‘True Americans’ all around

When I read the letter from Donald W. Hunt (“True American,” LJS, Feb. 28), my first thought was I was glad that my Grandpa Schneider (born on the way from Germany) never decided to run for office. He was a World War I vet. Maybe his being a Lutheran with a German name would have precluded “true Americans” from supporting him. JFK was a Catholic with an Irish name. Reason to not support him?

I was taught not to practice guilt by association, and that is what Hunt is doing. So what if Barack Obama’s father was once a Muslim.

Garland, Nebraska, was formerly named Germantown. They changed the name during World War I. Just because someone lived in Garland made them less of a true American?

Many people of Japanese descent were interred during World War II. Were they guilty of anything more than being Japanese?

I am proud to be the third generation of direct descendants of this blacksmith who have served and even more proud that my son is the fourth generation serving our country right now.

David L. Foster, Brainard


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How wrote on March 10, 2008 4:18 am:
" Much state aid do illegal immigrants receive now Ray?

I keep hearing that illegal immigrants are receiving state aid but no one can come up with some hard numbers saying how many received aid and how much they did receive. If you want my support on this, please give me some hard data to analyze instead of these empty arguments.

BTW, do you realize that even illegal immigrants pay social security taxes? If you earn a pay check, you pay social security. There are no exceptions until you earn over 80k. "

mitchy_v wrote on March 10, 2008 7:09 am:
" The reason to allow guns in the national parks is to allow hunting and bring in additional income. They have a hard time controlling the populations of certain species. "

Here's an idea wrote on March 10, 2008 7:26 am:
" I agree with George in a lot of what he says. Perhaps the Roller Skating group (which George belongs) can purchase Pershing as their permanent home. I would assume it would be a larger site for their museum. They wouldn't have to mess with the new arena, and they would have a site they could call home year-round! The citizens of Lincoln would benefit and so would George's group! "

thank you Ray and George wrote on March 10, 2008 8:04 am:
" Thank both of you for fine letters. And to "How", yes, if there are illegal immigrants who hold a job, then they do in fact pay social security taxes. But that is the only tax that they pay. They do not pay Federal and they do not pay state. With skyrocketing food and gas prices, the tax payer needs some help now more than ever. This is one of the reasons why people like the flat tax because it would catch those who pay no taxes now. "

Brian in Lincoln wrote on March 10, 2008 8:20 am:
" I wonder how many times, if ever, these so called "expert" consultants say an area is not suitable for an area, business, etc. From what I read, every consultant ever hired says YES to every project. Makes you wonder "

Mike D. wrote on March 10, 2008 8:47 am:
" But many illegal immigrants don't pay social security. They are paid cash and do not file taxes. "

Oh Ray wrote on March 10, 2008 8:48 am:
" You ask "What part of the word illegal do our lawmakers not understand?" I have a question for you. What part of this law is already a federal law in existance which means Heineman's bill changes nothing about state aid benefits don't you understand? Those of us who are for the killing of this bill are not, I repeat, not, for giving illegal immigrants benefits - we're merely against a do-nothing bill that is based solely on racism and fear mongering. "

Jack wrote on March 10, 2008 9:04 am:
" Nice letter George. You raise some good points. Lincoln should stick to NU Football and NU Baseball, which already have spectacular facilities, and leave the entertainment sector to Omaha's Qwest Center. An arena in Lincoln will NEVER compete with Qwest. Stop kidding yourselves, and lets move on. Besides, we already have a beautiful venue in Lincoln NE called Pinewood Bowl, sadly it has not been used in years. "

Jason wrote on March 10, 2008 9:19 am:
" Call me naive. Illegal immigrants do not pay federal taxes? How is that possible? I mean, I understand they do not file taxes because they aren't registered federally but how can someone get a job and not pay federal taxes (have them withheld)? "

Deeds wrote on March 10, 2008 9:19 am:
" With all due respect Rev. Schmidt, affirmative action actually creates more racial/gender bias than it prevents. It's time to get past the "feel good" 60's rhetoric and realize the truth - it's doing more to divide than provide opportunities for minorities. As long as people are told they are victims, they are going to buy into it and rely on our ever increasing nanny state for solutions to all life's problems. Now, where can I sign that petition.... "

Jody P. wrote on March 10, 2008 9:53 am:
" If Barack Obama is really a leader who will bring us together so that we rise above partisanship, then he has the power right now to put an end to this silly controversy over his middle name (e.g. "Why is Obama's Middle Name Taboo?" in Time magazine). He can simply say: "Yes, my middle name is Hussein. It's an ancient and honorable name given to millions of people over the centuries in many countries. I am proud of it. Anyone can feel free to say my middle name as often as they please, just as freely as they can say John Sidney McCain. THIS TABOO IS SILLY AND NEEDS TO STOP RIGHT NOW!". But he doesn't do that, does he? In fact his wife has railed against the use of his middle name. I think it is very srange indeed, and very partisan, that in the year 2008 Americans are not allowed to speak the middle name of their likely next president. I find myself wondering what other free speech and thought will be prohibited in this brave new world that awaits us. "

I See wrote on March 10, 2008 10:23 am:
" No one can come forward and tell us how many illegal immigrants are receiving federal or state aid? If you don't know how many, how do you know they are collecting state aid?

As for illegal immigrants not paying taxes, how do you know that? Has some illegal immigrant told you they were doing so or is that some supposition on your part?

In this day and age of the internet and access to virtually any and all information, it seems like someone would come up with some hard numbers to back their claim. Even the honorable governor says he doesn't know how many so how can anyone else? "

Come on wrote on March 10, 2008 10:46 am:
" Illegal is illegal. Just ask the many people behind bars. Does anything think they can go into another country and work illegally? They would end up in a jail in mexico if thats where they worked. Mexican jails are not nice as compared with the U.S. without tv's, good food, medical, exercise rooms. These people mostly work for cash which is not taxed. They just loaded up another 43 of them and sent them back from where I live. I don't want any percent of the 13,000 dollars I paid in federal taxes to go to them. "

correcting thank you wrote on March 10, 2008 10:47 am:
" thank you, you are talking about the flat tax being fair and everyone would have to pay. If I'm not mistaken you are speaking of Ron Paul's "Fair Tax". The fair tax is basically a sales tax. The Flat Tax on the other hand would mean that everyone would pay the same % of income tax. Now that would be a disaster as the poor and middle class would get a tax increase to pay for the rich's tax cuts. With income tax we definitely need a progressive system. With Ron Paul's fair tax it is the spending that collects the taxes. "

Jim in Seward, NE wrote on March 10, 2008 11:01 am:
" I applaud Senators Hagel and Nelson in supporting the Interior Department decision allowing the modification of the fire arms carry policy in the state parks. Before you get all paranoid how about waiting for the acutal rules to come out. It doubt that it will be open to grenade launchers like someone said. When hunting in the west where it may be legal in the state park and you walk across the imaginary boundry and you are now in a national park you have now broken the law. By allowing states the park and forest officials to follow the state law it sure makes it easier for law enforcement and rangers to enforce the law. Wait and see what the rules will be before becoming so paranoid before we know what the rules will be. Thank you. "

Good grief Jody P wrote on March 10, 2008 11:31 am:
" He's not against his middle name, neither is his wife. He is against the use of it by people who are trying to thwart his candidacy by associating him with Saddam Hussein and Islamic terrorism - or were you not aware about the huge smear campaign waged against him to try and portray him as someone "pretending" to be a Christian in order to get elected. It's sad enough that being considered Islamic would be enough to have people question your patriotism - it's even worse to try and excuse it as you have done. "

How to not pay taxes wrote on March 10, 2008 11:37 am:
" For those wondering how illegals get away with not paying taxes there are at least 2 ways that come to mind. 1) They get paid in cash or 2) They claim 10 exemptions so no income taxes are taken out. "

Education is aid wrote on March 10, 2008 11:40 am:
" How many illegal immigrants are in our school system? Isn't that a form of aid at the taxpayer expense? There is a reason why schools now have ESL (English as a second language) classes. "

stignob wrote on March 10, 2008 11:51 am:
" illegal immigration debate is like the smoking debate, no cases attached to second hand smoke but people have died from. No case of illegals not paying taxes, but you know they are sucking our system dry. "

Billy wrote on March 10, 2008 12:05 pm:
" Rev. Schmidt in your own statement you said that afftermitive action is to "To help compensate for poorer educational opportunities" that may be what it does but is that fair and is that right. I thought that we should treat every race equal. A employer should hire who ever is the 'best qualified' for the position. Not a lesser educated person may they be black or white. By leaving affermitive action in place we do not solve the educational problems of the past that you talk of. That is a separate issue. We are talking business and profit and who deserves the job the most bast on qualifications. You cannot say "Oh I am sorry that you had a rough childhood and did not have the advantages of others, let me give you a job that will overpay you for your qualifications." In America people need to learn that hard work gets them ahead and that Mr. Goverment will not solve all of your problems. Our country was founded getting rid of the British goverment because they were too controlling. Now look at us. We have laws that favor one race over another and somehow that is NOT discrimination? Are you kidding me?

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Big Chief wrote on March 10, 2008 12:58 pm:
" Actually Mr. Harris if you were facing a hungry Grizzly Bear that has you on his lunch menu a grenade launcher might be a good thing to have. "

ck wrote on March 10, 2008 1:17 pm:
" There are lots of people out there - People like Donald Hunt love to use Barack Obama's last name to inspire fear and hatred in fellow racists. Should we be able to say the name Hussein without getting people all riled up and calling him a muslim and a terrorist? Absolutely yes, but unfortunately in this country we still have a number of people who will ignorantly hold his name against him. Interesting that the people who want most to point out his middle name aren't using John McCain's middle name or Hillary's. What is Huckabee's middle name? John Kerry's? Al Gore's? Ron Reagan's? Bet you can't name them without a google search. My point is that we don't normally use a candidate's full name and it's more than a little dishonest to be playing this game of what's he ashamed of. You ask why shouldn't we say his middle name, I ask why do you want to? What's to be gained? "

ck wrote on March 10, 2008 3:31 pm:
" Excuse me - I meant middle name, not last name. "

Edgar Pearlstein wrote on March 10, 2008 5:16 pm:
" Has this arena consulting company ever turned in a report, anywhere, that said such a project is NOT feasible? Such a company is hired by people who want the project, and if the consultants gave a negative opinion, other people wouldn't hire them, "

Gerard Harbison wrote on March 10, 2008 6:12 pm:
" Reverend Schmidt should deal with his own issues, and avoid imputing prejudices to people he doesn't know. I don't decide people are 'like me' based on their gender or skin color; I submit a person who does do is quite literally 'superficial'. "

That Guy wrote on March 10, 2008 6:21 pm:
" Actually Edgar (and others) - usually consultants of this type have contracts specifically stating that they will NOT be contracted to provide consulting services if an arena is built (and most usually don't even offer this service). That way, they can freely give a "no-build" opinion since their revenue stream is in no way tied to the outcome of their study.

Further - as a consultant myself, I know that companies get images of how objective their work is. If a company were to always have a "build" result, than they wouldn't be contracted because no one would value their research or evaluation.

Besides, these reports usually have mountains of data to support their conclusions (more than is printed in the LJS, trust me). Thus, even if you are concerned about their outcome, you should instead look to the data that supported their conclusion instead of making some generic critique of their reputation, which incidentally you know nothing about. "

Jeff wrote on March 10, 2008 9:21 pm:
" The Governor and his sidekick simply did not make their case before the judiciary committee. They failed to convince them that there was a significant problem, and the system they are proposing be used does cost money, and they didn't make their case for the need for it. They did succeed in trying to build support for themselves by playing on the hysteria that currently surrounds illegal immigrants. The bill ended up where it deserved to be - it died. "

Grundle wrote on March 11, 2008 9:32 am:
" Hey Mr. Harris, I have absolutely no problem with you carrying a grenade launcher around a national park...in fact, carry two if you like! It won't do you any good, since the grenades that are used in the launchers are outlawed under federal legislation that is over 50 years old. I guess if you think an empty grenade launcher will protect you, then go for it. I also wonder if or how your opinion of Dick Cheney would change if he were to fire the shot that saves your life. Think before you speak. "

Matt P. wrote on March 11, 2008 10:25 am:
" Rodger. Ummm...the 2nd amendment DOES guarantee the right to bear arms...its pretty unambiguous. It does not however say that that right can't be regulated. Hagel and Nelson are simply moving the power from the federal government to local government. Why is this bad policy?? Why should someone in Washington tell someone in Utah that they can carry a gun on that land? Let the local government decide. The rules that apply to one national park shouldn't necessarily apply to a park 1000 miles away. "