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BY DEENA WINTER / Lincoln Journal Star

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 - 06:28:41 pm CST

Six months of research into the viability of a new arena in Lincoln resulted in this conclusion by a consultant: It’s financially feasible and needed.

John Kaatz of Convention, Sports & Leisure, which is based in Minnesota, told an arena study group Tuesday that only 17 percent of national touring events can squeeze into the city’s outdated, 50-year-old Pershing Center. And so the city is missing out on a “a tremendous amount of market,” he said.

His company interviewed about a dozen event promoters, and there was a lot of interest in booking more Lincoln events, Kaatz said. Most of them said they’d prefer to see an arena with at least 11,000 seats, with the flexibility to do smaller events.

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Project costs

Summary of estimated project costs for new arena and convention center

Arena and garage: $150 million-$160 million

Convention center: $18 million-$22 million

Road network: $15.5 million

Land acquisition & site work: $22.5 million-$40 million

Surface parking: $6 million

Soft costs and contingency: $5 million-$10 million

Total project costs: $217 million-$253.5 million

Note: Cost estimates are based on preliminary Task Force estimates and CSL industry data.

Kaatz recommends the city build a 13,000- to 16,000-seat arena with 600 club seats and 20 suites — if the University of Nebraska-Lincoln’s basketball team is a tenant. An amendment limiting Lincoln’s arena to 16,000 seats was recently tacked onto a bill in the Legislature that would help Lincoln finance an arena.

That’s OK by Kaatz; he says beyond 18,000 seats the city would see diminishing returns. Only 5 percent of Omaha Qwest Center events fill more than 15,000 seats, he said.

He estimates the city would have to subsidize the arena to the tune of $400,000 to $900,000 annually. Currently, the city subsidizes the Pershing Center at a rate of $525,000 per year.

While it seems logical to base the size of a new arena on the population of a city, he said the presence of a university and proximity to a metropolitan area are bigger factors.

The Husker basketball team has a chance to “go to the next level,” he said, with a new arena. Nebraska is selling 78 percent of capacity, which is about the midpoint for Big 12 conference basketball arenas, Kaatz said. A quality new arena could push Nebraska to the top five, he said.

City and UNL representatives (including Athletic Director Tom Osborne) have been meeting regularly and talking seriously — about things like rent, concessions proceeds, suites — in the past couple months. But no formal, public commitment has been made by UNL.

A thorny issue will be whether alcohol will be allowed in the arena. Kaatz said Fargo, N.D., Fargodome officials say it’d be a lot easier to sell suites and club seats if alcohol were permitted.

The city could host a minor league sports team in the arena, too — likely an indoor football team, Pershing manager Tom Lorenz said.

The consultant wasn’t as optimistic about the need for a new convention center. (An arena is for big events like concerts; convention centers are more for meetings and conferences.)

Kaatz said the city’s existing conference space can handle most of the state and regional events, but a new convention center would likely attract a modest number of bigger national conferences, maybe a half dozen annually.

He said the return wouldn’t justify the “very, very high” cost of a new convention center, so the city should pursue a public-private partnership with a developer.

The city could buy the land, provide infrastructure improvements and finance the development of a portion of the convention center, for example. And a private entity could build a hotel and operate both with no city subsidy, perhaps.

Operating losses for convention centers range from a couple hundred thousand dollars to more than $1 million annually, Kaatz said. But cities build them because they’re considered an investment to attract out-of-towners who come to town, drop a load of cash and leave.

He recommends the city work with a private developer to build a 30,000-square-foot convention center and at least 250-room hotel. The bigger the hotel, the better, but the bigger the hotel, the bigger the city subsidy, is usually the way it goes, Kaatz said.

During Kaatz’s briefing to the arena committee, Osborne asked whether practice fields associated with the arena couldn’t be used for convention space, but Kaatz said they would probably only be suitable for a limited number of events.

And the total cost of all this? Prior estimates have varied, but Kaatz puts the total for an arena, parking garage, convention center, roads, land and other costs at between $217 million and $254 million.

Kaatz said the city of Lincoln has done its homework, and the project is financially feasible if the city succeeds in obtaining the bulk of a list of 17 possible revenue sources. Some of those sources are big ifs, though, since they require legislative or voter approval.

The city is looking at everything from an increase in the hotel occupancy tax to a general obligation bond to naming rights to generate between $11 million and $18 million annually to pay off the projects.

Kaatz said the city has tapped all the typical funding sources. The only other idea he suggested is to do something like Oklahoma City did, by convincing voters to agree to a temporary 1 percent increase in the sales tax to do a laundry list of projects, including schools.

So while Kaatz came to the conclusion that a new arena is needed and doable, ultimately he said it’s up to Lincoln voters to decide whether it’s worth the cost.

Reach Deena Winter at 473-2642 or dwinter@journalstar.com.


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Mike wrote on March 4, 2008 2:42 pm:
" Build it. Lincoln's tax revenue dollars are way low and getting worse. We need to attact events to keep tax dollars flowing into the city. If we don't build it we will lose all the HS Sports State Championships to other cities, Omaha, Grand Island and Kearney. If we do not build it Lincoln will be in much worse shape financially than spending the money to bring people into town. "

Lincolnite wrote on March 4, 2008 2:48 pm:
" Get it done already. "

mark wrote on March 4, 2008 2:54 pm:
" essential "

Local resident wrote on March 4, 2008 3:11 pm:
" Sounds good to me. Let's make this happen Lincoln. "

Not a Destination wrote on March 4, 2008 3:11 pm:
" I like Lincoln every bit as much as the next guy, but let's face reality - as this city exists now it is NOT an attractive destination for anyone. The infrastructure of nightlife, entertainment, restaurants and attractions simply does not exist to provide Lincoln with the package of incentives that a convention would look at for their location. It's not cheap to stay in hotels here, either. Why would someone pick Lincoln over Kansas City, or Omaha, or Des Moines?

Build that infrastructure, grow up as a city and stop acting like a small town, and then you'll have an attractive community for these types of events. "

Seth wrote on March 4, 2008 3:17 pm:
" It needs to get built. It will be good for everyone involved. Especially putting nebraska basketball to the next level. I think another go round with indoor football would be awesome (you just couldnt play football in pershing).
Is there a website up or any rough prelim skecthes up on the net somewhere?? "

abals2000@yahoo.com wrote on March 4, 2008 3:23 pm:
" Build it. It is one aspect of a lot of good things on the horizon for Lincoln. "

I like it wrote on March 4, 2008 3:24 pm:
" I like the idea of a new arena and agree with everything the article states about it. HOWEVER, when it comes to the convention center, the article states what I've believed all along: 1) It won't generate the kind of money needed to sustain it, 2) Lincoln can't afford it and will, in fact, lose money on it, and 3) it will barely be used from year to year. WHY WHY WHY do we need to continue to discuss a convention center that will turn out to be nothing but a money pit??? WE ARE NOT OMAHA (and that's a good thing) and we need to stop trying to be. "

Cary wrote on March 4, 2008 3:30 pm:
" Given great economic uncertainty and anticipated high bond costs, this may not be a good decade to subsidize businesses who are pushing this. LIBA is acting in a socialist, rather than capitalist manner when the public subsidizes this type of scheme. Homeowners and the city are always at least a year behind in realizing total effects of economic swings. We should be asking, “How many business owners” would be primary beneficiaries of this welfare program for private businesses”? Is there an alternate program or investment in infrastructure that could better create new jobs and attract employers to provide higher paying jobs than that of Haymarket restaurants and hotels? Is a different type of consultant needed to explore other options? "

lol wrote on March 4, 2008 3:35 pm:
" Ok, I give you mega bucks so you can regergitate what I tell you. Put in the fancy words so people will think it's your work. Come on folks wake up, you all know what consultants do. You can find one who can write it for what you want. I can find one who would counter what this guy did. Is this a surprise to you? "

jason wrote on March 4, 2008 4:00 pm:
" I'm in, but tell TO that we need to sell beer at the Nebraska basketball games. I know he tried to pass some law while in congress to ban beer sales at college events, but it brings in people. Watch a Creighton game when they scan the crowd half the people are drinking. That's more revenue.... "

Ryan Hattan wrote on March 4, 2008 4:01 pm:
" Why don't we change Pershing into the new proposed ice rink? "

Cap wrote on March 4, 2008 4:03 pm:
" The consultant did not compare alternative options for investing $254 million with an added $1 million as another annual cash outlay. Nor did he suggest the bond pay period or interest the city would be faced with. Could this huge capital outlay be better used to attract or recruit profit driven businesses to Lincoln? Let us have transparency and complete information before letting this cash draining project advance. . How long would the “UNL” commitment /lease be and would the Foundation or athletic department be putting up a substantial “deposit” upfront? "

Mini Airport wrote on March 4, 2008 4:09 pm:
" We have few nonstop flights into Lincoln from any major coastal metros, and no international nonstops at all! So these acts are supposed to fly into Omaha, then bus it an hour away, instead of just playing at the Qwest center? Wow, that makes sense... "

CleanCaveman wrote on March 4, 2008 4:11 pm:
" Lincoln needs a new arena (as it does a east-south bypass and 4-lane, north-south thru streets). It does not need nor can it afford a convention center. Let that aspect of this project go and build the darn arena already! Please don't forget to build the roads leading to the new arena... Look around at the proposed site. It is a bottleneck with limited access. Factor in a new access road to the northwest and get it done! "

Barry wrote on March 4, 2008 4:52 pm:
" Why doesn’t UNL and the State take the lead and finance this project? The city might be in a lessor financial position and along with high school associations and promoters be the “renters”. The Athletic Department and NU Foundation are key, if not primary, stakeholders and this is a project that has limited “city organized” activities to host. Is the report posted for the public to read on-line? "

who really profits wrote on March 4, 2008 5:29 pm:
" why the strong push for this arena which will operate at such a loss for many years to come? The Downtown Lincoln Association seems to be fuel for this vehicle. Will they receive BID money once the hotel, convention center, and arena are built? With the footprint of this monster, any BID amount will be huge dollars in their pockets if this comes to surface. Is this the reason they poopoo any other area besides what is inside thier BID fence?

Why would events come to Lincoln rather than Omaha? Why would a band choose a city with a smaller population over Omaha. Common sense would tell any event planner that a larger population will better guarantee a sell out for their event.
Seems ridiculous to try to compete with Omaha's arena. Where is the hidden agenda here, we all know there is one - my finger points to the DLA, where does yours point? "

Ricky wrote on March 4, 2008 5:47 pm:
" Build the Arena!
Touring bands will stop at our Qwest Center then down to Lincoln. Fans of the groups will have two chances to see the shows.
Big Red Basketball will flourish with a new arena.
But you have to serve beer!
I will come down to see the Huskers play.
Don't let Tee-toting AD Osborne talk you out of beer sales.
More people will come and more revenue generated.
Go for it!

Ricky From Omaha "

Steve wrote on March 4, 2008 5:59 pm:
" Let the people who stand to make money of this deal pay for it too. I don't expect to attend anything at an arena, or a convention center, so why should my tax money subsidize it? This is all about big business making money at the expense of the taxpayer. While this article doesn't say, I'd bet the city spent hundreds of thousands of dollars already just for the study. Somebody on the council has a good friend in the consulting business. "

Brandon wrote on March 4, 2008 7:36 pm:
" Sorry Ricky, but there are very few artists and bands that would play Omaha and Lincoln. The cities are just too close. Omaha's concert scene has remained very strong since the Sprint Center opened in KC. A lot of artists are willing to play Omaha and KC. But Des Moines and Sioux City are not doing so well. I really don't see Lincoln competing very well at all. "

Erik from Omaha wrote on March 4, 2008 7:41 pm:
" To the person who suggested the one's who attend the arena pay more -- I can guarentee you that a large portion of the revenue to pay for this will come from ticket proceeds..

Another thing, Lincoln is too big and growing too fast with too large of a university to not build this. The arena will work, absolutely! As a matter of fact, you will see that you do not need an int'l airport that will make this work, believe me Lincoln is a beloved town in this state and its area of importance is actually quite a bit larger than you think..

Projects like this spur economic development, and downtown Lincoln will see a re-burgeoning downtown retail/entertainment scene, and as risky as this may sound, the convention center may be something the city lacks that is desperately needed to retain businesses as well as pull in some prospecting ones as well..

Lincoln didn't fall behind the economic trend because of its population base, truthfully.. It has to do more with how much Omaha has allowed itself to become about the most economically viable cities in america and DesMoines (the copy-cat smaller sister metro) has been darn successfull for doing the same thing.

This isn't something cities like Lincoln that has everything needed to make this successfull just dream up or willing to take a large risk, no this is something that 'makes' an economy roll even more.

You may end up paying up to $1 mil a year in convention center losses,but I guarentee your economic development in result in tax revenue will outgrow this added debt by minimum 10-fold, especially since this will be Lincoln's 'one and only' and is NEAR MEMORIAL STADIUM and UNL and downtown and other downtown facilities! "

Dave wrote on March 4, 2008 8:12 pm:
" To all thous people who say YEA lets build the arena. Do you have to pay our property taxes. How long are you staying in Lincoln? Isn't it enough that the Mayor has just ordered a 22 Million dollar water line and the county wants 70+ Million for a new jail. My pockets are not that deep: "

Another Steve wrote on March 4, 2008 8:30 pm:
" Sorry Steve, I don't agree. There are lots of things in life that I don't attend/partake in, but I'm still expected to pay for. I live in a part of town that has been to lucky to have little crime. Should I moan about my funds to LPD? No, because we're all a community and I would hope we're all wanting to make it a better city. I left a small town where people didn't want anything to do with investing in their community, and now that town is practically dead. Lincoln has a good future. This is a good idea. The convention center needs more thinking though...

Let's roll with this! "

whatever wrote on March 4, 2008 8:39 pm:
" There is absolutely no point in building this if alcohol isn't allowed. This is a financially risky adventure to begin with, why make it even riskier. And don't count on touring bands to go to Omaha and then to Lincoln, it ain't gonna happen. It didn't happen in the 70's and it ain't gonna happen in the 21st Century. Lincoln will have to sell it's soul and prove that it is as big a draw as the Qwest Center. "

Remember... wrote on March 4, 2008 8:41 pm:
" "In Heaven, There Is No Beer"

Allow brewsky sales please! Look at what it's done for the Stars. That's the main draw there. "

Yea Right wrote on March 4, 2008 9:05 pm:
" I live in a city with a new convention center. The city has way over 2 million people visit annually. I will tell you that the convention center has not been used much in the 3 years it has been completed. Now someone tell me how lincoln with a small tourist base or small business or factory base can begin to say that it will take in one million dollars in business. By talking to people who I know in lincoln , the city is in trouble already without taking on any more bonds. The people who will make it good from this are only the developers and the government officials who get a little under the table. "

Mike wrote on March 4, 2008 9:06 pm:
" I find it interesting that the article makes mention of Pershing not being adequate, but rarely does anyone ever mention how underutilized the Devaney Center is. I'm also curious how Husker basketball will "go to the next" level with a new arena - is there an expecation that a new arena will somehow lead to a better record and more fans? Yes, it would be great to have more entertainment options in Lincoln, but the cost and lack of detailed plans being released are a little disturbing. "

JT wrote on March 4, 2008 9:14 pm:
" Lincoln would attract different acts b/c of the university. Pershing is decrepit and needs to be razed. The new arena should go up asap, but there is no need for a convention center. Make the area next to the arena a park, that'd be a nice buffer from the railroad. "

Time wrote on March 4, 2008 9:15 pm:
" Time is MONEY!! Lets get this arena built. Worry about details later! We NEED it yesteday. Sign on with it UNL. Great place for womens and mens bb. I can't wait. "

What If.. wrote on March 4, 2008 9:42 pm:
" we thought a little more 'outside' the box this time. Arena replacement for Pershing....ok maybe. Convention center that can't fund itself.... don't think so. Although, a big 'ol hotel & a light rail system between Lincoln & Omaha...hmmm then look at it from how Nebraska can benefit, as opposed to the same 'special' interested people here in this city. We have Kawasaki building rail cars right up the street, yet nobody can figure out the possibilities & make them work. Once again, Lincoln has the 'blinders' on, maybe the 'tunnel' walk has truly affected our 'vision'

Oh, I am for the beer at a basketball game (hey the team has improved over years past;-) "

for the arena wrote on March 4, 2008 10:19 pm:
" simply put...get it done. we don't have mountains and we don't have oceans. what we have is quality of life. the younger generation needs something to keep them in lincoln. "

rac wrote on March 4, 2008 11:05 pm:
" Sorry, but all you "retireds" are out of the box on this one. Please move to AZ or FL if you don't like this. This means new growth for Lincoln, and a new attraction for the young to stay. Now couple that with putting in the UNL research park where the decrepit fair used to be...AWESOME! "

Lincoln business owner wrote on March 5, 2008 2:34 am:
" The arena will be filled because it won't compete with anything. We have nothing to do in Lincoln and people are starving for a place to go. A major reason people don't attend basketball games is because it is such an effort to get to Devaney. If in the Haymarket, people can make it a one stop destination. They can eat, drink, hang out, and only have to park once. Personally, I would go to more games...especially if they serve beer. "

READ wrote on March 5, 2008 6:00 am:
" Read the article people it say the arena will lose money to the tune of 1 million so pump 200 million into building it the a million are year to keep it going. Does this make sense? pump more into a brand new building double the amount we put into the old building. So who is gainning here the City of the FAT CATS wanting this? "

I'm reading wrote on March 5, 2008 8:08 am:
" And I don't see anything that says the arena will lose "money to the tune of $1 million." The article says the city would need to subsidize the arena (like Pershing) at a similar amount. It does say the CONVENTION center would probably lose money, but the city isn't definitely interested in the convention center. Where am I missing this READ? I'm a firm believer that in order to make money you have to spend money. Sitting on our hands isn't going to make Lincoln better. "

ryan wrote on March 5, 2008 8:22 am:
" Build it, but not downtown. There's too much chaos down there now. Build it on the State Fair grounds or out by the convention center where there is some room to park. "

Rosie wrote on March 5, 2008 8:43 am:
" So, is this to be paid for by revenue bonds or by property tax or both? I am not in favor of any new property tax. "

Edgar Pearlstein wrote on March 5, 2008 8:48 am:
" The estimated cost of the new arena comes to about $1000 per person in Lincoln, or $4000 per family of four. "

Think BIG! wrote on March 5, 2008 10:12 am:
" If the paid consultant is admitting that the city will have to subsidize the project to the tune of 900 thousand dollars (that's 90% of a MILLION DOLLARS) EVERY YEAR, then what do you suppose the chances are that it will end up requiring an even bigger subsidy than that? I think we should save up for better projects like 65 mil for a jail, 250 mil for a creek, half-a-bil for a research park, lets think REALLY BIG ! Come on, Lincoln! "

??? wrote on March 5, 2008 10:13 am:
" Who owns the land where the arena will be built? "

Pershing wrote on March 5, 2008 10:49 am:
" Pershing is already subsidized to the tune of $500k. The new arena (think replacement to Pershing) would be subsidized at $400k - $900k.

And as far as costing each average family $4000 that's probably nothing compared to what I've been paying for a 3 trillion dollar war. "

Marisol wrote on March 5, 2008 5:00 pm:
" How can anyone trust a consulting report from someplace called "Convention, Sports & Leisure"? Seems to me they are most likely hired by cities to produce rationales for building arenas, not to evaluate objectively whether a city like Lincoln can handle one. And the city of Lincoln is a mess. Look at the downtown area. Look at the declarations of blight left and right. Look at the fact that the Lied Center had to lay people off because *not enough people came to their events.* Look at the fact that not even a big event like the State Fair is doing well. Building arenas is not the solution to this city's fiscal problems. "

well.......... wrote on March 6, 2008 12:42 am:
" One thing for sure: Cooler heads will NOT prevail. Greedier ones WILL. Greed...America's downfall. "