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Letters,2/18 : New laws for drunk drivers

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Monday, Feb 18, 2008 - 12:28:58 am CST

We can’t make new laws whenever a tragedy happens in our society, but I do support this one. With drunken driving accidents estimated to kill someone every 32 minutes, and injure someone every 2 minutes, this is an obvious problem.

Making it mandatory for drivers who have been convicted of DUI to have an ignition interlock system in their car will not only keep them off the roads drunk but also keep us safe and help them with recovery if they have a drinking problem. If they are drunk, they won’t be going anywhere in their car, so if they are drunk all the time, they will have to find other means of transportation, which can become very inconvenient.

Some people may ask, “What about people who haven’t been convicted of DUI but still drive drunk?” If we are stopping people from driving drunk who already have one offense, that’s one drunk person off the road. It’s a lot better than having thousands of people who have DUIs still driving along with the thousands who don’t have DUIs.

I believe that if we make it mandatory for the accused to have this device installed in their car and pay for the installation, we will see a drop in the number of drunken driving accidents. No problem is solved right away.

Other people may think we should just resort to a public transportation system like in big cities such as New York. No way is Lincoln big enough to have any kind of public transportation system other than busing. Drunken driving is a problem that needs to be dealt with directly, not something we need to find a way around.

Nick Layton, Lincoln

Candidate not a true patriot

I would like to know how anyone could possibly cast a vote in favor of someone who is running for the office of the president of the United States, aka the commander in chief of the Armed Forces, who, on national television, refused to place his right hand over his heart during the playing of the National Anthem.

He also does not wear a flag pin, as do the other candidates.

Any true American patriot would not vote for him.

Roger Kopf, Nebraska City

Service comes with funding

Your Feb. 11 editorial addressing the need to review the snow-plowing process in Lincoln has some disturbing suggestions. You repeat the suggestion that Parks and Recreation equipment could be considered to clean some public streets. Every year, we hear the same comment that trails are cleared before some streets.

It is the responsibility of the city to make these commuter/recreation trails as safe as possible for children to get to school, disabled to get to local facilities, commuters to get to work, and certainly for people to get out and get some safe, healthy exercise. I cannot imagine asking the Parks Department to load up this equipment and use their already depleted budget to clean streets. Those of us who live on cul-de-sac-type streets do have some responsibility to make them usable. The Parks and Recreation Department’s budget  has been reduced by the City Council for years, and the agency should not have to take on this responsibility.

The only way we can maintain the level of service we expect for our city streets is to support a city budget that would allow for that. The more heavily populated areas need to be cleared before the outlying areas. 

Considering the number of snow and/or ice events we have had this year, I think Wayne Teten and his crew have done a good job.  While we can make suggestions as to how this should be done, we need to understand the number of miles and equipment, which is the responsibility of the Public Works Department. They are the appropriate administrative department to make this decision.

Elaine Hammer, Lincoln

Good ideas for P.E. classes

The author did a wonderful job on the recent article, “P.E. classes evolve to meet needs.” Physical education teachers are starting to change their teaching to accommodate all children. Teachers are trying to make the classes more fun so students do not feel like they are exercising. It’s about time something was done about overweight children in America.

Music is now being listened to while exercising in gym class. This is a wonderful idea. Everybody likes music, and, when listening to music that you like, it can make time seem like it’s flying.

Plus, students receive stickers at the end of each day for sweating the most. Psychologists have found that being rewarded directly after a task shows better results.

P.E. teachers are starting to teach classes so the children are doing individual exercises instead of team sports. They are teaching them workout skills they can use when they are older.

This is exactly what America needs to counteract obesity in children.

Alysia Harvey, Murdock

Look at Housing First options

My brother lives in an apartment building just south of the Capitol. My brother is an ex-felon and an alcoholic. Sometimes (not recently) visitors to his apartment get rowdy, and the police are called.

My brother is just the kind of person “we” do not want in “our” city — not! My brother is exceptionally thoughtful and generous, willing to help a neighbor or a stranger with any task, someone who often gives the shirt off his back or his last bit of food to anyone in need.

Many cities in North America, including our neighbors Minneapolis and Denver, have realized that the only solution to homelessness is homes, and they have versions of “Housing First,” a program that attempts to stabilize people in trouble with society in homes of their own, where they have security and the kind of faith in the future that allows them to deal with problems of addiction, lack of skills and other issues that make them undesirable in the eyes of other people. My family is lucky in that we are able to help out our brother with a personal form of “housing first.”

I am disappointed that in all the stories and responses to your features on my brother’s neighborhood, no one has mentioned anything like “Housing First” or the importance of a home of one’s own for anyone trying to rehabilitate himself or herself. My brother’s carpet may be a little frowsy and his Formica a little chipped, but his home is crucial to his giving back to our community. 

Instead of gentrifying his neighborhood, let’s make it the focus of our own “Housing First” program and make our city a better place for everyone to live — not just for those people who have never been plagued with dysfunctionality.

Frances W. Kaye, Lincoln

70th, O intersection dangers

70th and O is the most dangerous intersection.

Almost daily, I walk to either Hy-Vee, ShopKo, IGA or the Wells Fargo Bank.

When I cross the intersection of 70th and O on the south side going from east to west, I am facing the cars making right turns off of O onto 70th. I can see them easily. I always push the walk signal and start across when it says walk. I would say that maybe one of 30 cars making that right turn will yield to me as a pedestrian in the crosswalk. 

 When I am walking west to east and have the walk blinking, these cars force me to lose the walk signal, because I am forced to yield to them as they make their right turns.

I have gotten very good at dodging the negligent drivers but was not so lucky on Dec. 16. I was walking west to east but this time was hampered by the deep snow on the sidewalks. And the 3-foot snow bank to get onto the crosswalk was my downfall; I concentrated so hard on coming down safely that I failed to see the speeding car making the right turn.

This time I lived, but I have two cracked ribs and a broken right ankle from getting hit by that car.

I am scared to death of crossing that intersection again on either side after I have healed and can walk again.

Betty Christen, Lincoln


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Well... wrote on February 18, 2008 4:37 am:
" At least Roger didn't make the false claim that Obama is a Muslim...you can't imagine out often I read that false claim in blogs. Addressing his other "unpatriotic" claims, I know many people sir who do not put their hands over their heart during the National Anthem, heck I don't always do it myself. I love my country, enough to call out people representing it who are in the wrong. Who are you to judge that me, Barack, and whoever else doesn't wear a flag pin or place their hand over their heart isn't any more of a patriot then you? Criticize Barack on his voting record, but don't not vote for him simply because of where he didn't place his hand one time and which clothes accessories he doesn't wear. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll have to go run out an by my yellow magnet, flag, and CD of patriotic American songs...so I can be a "true" patriot... "

Eric wrote on February 18, 2008 5:59 am:
" RE: New laws for drunk drivers: I'm all for the ignition interlock system, I actually wish the fines were big enough to to bankrupt people and the city would take complete possesion of the vehicle on the first offense. If you make the punishment extremely severe, less people will do it. One problem in Lincoln: Where are the Cabs!!! Every other city of Lincolns size has Cabs everywhere to take people home. Lincoln has 4 cabs at night on Friday and Saturday. There should be just as many cabs as police cars on O street every Friday and Saturday night. I happen to know that cabs services trying to make inroads into Lincoln have been met with opposition from the city council... Hmm wonder why that is? "

whatever wrote on February 18, 2008 6:31 am:
" If one were to watch the Super Bowl earlier this month one would have noticed that NO ONE put their hand over their heart during the National Anthem. It is sad that so many Americans are not familiar with the Flag Code of the United States of America. It is also sad that so many of this countries athletes are unpatriotic. I would submit that watching any sporting event where the athletes do not display proper respect to the Flag of the United States of America is an unpatriotic act and those sporting events should be boycotted as well as any business that sponsers said events. "

Oh Roger wrote on February 18, 2008 6:58 am:
" You might want to look elsewhere for your news, other than Fox News. Yes, there was a now infamous picture of Barack Obama with his hand not over his heart during the national anthem, but when other news outlets looked for it- they found numberous instances of other "patriots" - your buddy George Bush included - who didn't have their hand over their hearts either. Not to mention plenty of instances where Obama did have his hand over his heart during the national anthem. And frankly he's right about the pin. There are plenty of other politicians who wear one, and then trample all over our constitution, and dont' really understand what it is to be an American. It's meaningless to so many who put it on - they're just doing it to be liked, and obviously it's working on you. My vote can't be bought with a pin and a photo op - apparently yours can. "

Hank wrote on February 18, 2008 7:06 am:
" Yes, Mr. Kopf, let's judge politicians by the way they wrap themselves in the flag. Do you want them to carry pictures of their mothers and and eat apply pie too? Thankfully, we have a candidate who inspires rather than one who uses nationalism to distract us from the real issues, such as how it is that our country got bamboozled into going into a deadly war about oil and empire. Oh yes, Remember, those who lied to us and took us into war continually use the flag as a distraction. Wise up, Mr. Kopf. It is the tyrants whoi want us to focus only on the flag. True citizens know better. "

Edgar Pearlstein wrote on February 18, 2008 7:21 am:
" Mr. Kopf seems to equate patriotism with merely symbolic things like displaying a flag on one's clothing and putting one's hand on the chest during the national anthem. SUBSTANTIVE patriotism, in contrast with SYMBOLIC patriotism, means actually doing something. There are various civic duties, for example: honesty about tax returns, accepting jury duty when called, serving in or contributing to volunteer organizations, using our intelligence when voting. A substantive patriot will show respect to those people, both military and civilian, who sacrificed in order that we may get and keep our liberties. We can best honor our heroes not only by parades and speeches, but also by resolutely holding on to and exercising the liberties they fought for. And a patriot should not be cowed into silence by political and social pressures, even if those pressures are claimed to be in the name of "national security." "

David wrote on February 18, 2008 7:38 am:
" Roger, it's unpatriotic to not wear a lapel pin? I thought love your country was expressed by your actions, not what you wear. I'm glad then that we have a patriotic president who turned a surplus into a deficit, is eroding our civil rights, started an unjust war, and silences scientific thought. At least he wears a lapel pin of the flag though, that makes it all better.

Betty, this is a problem at every intersection. Many people don't remember that pedestrians have the right of way when they are given the walk symbol. Hopefully you have a speedy recovery. "

Cindy wrote on February 18, 2008 7:44 am:
" I agree that the laws for drunk driving should be stiffer for everyone caught. Unfortunately, people have already found ways to get around the ignition locks but I am all for anything that at least slows them down or keeps even one person alive. "

bubba wrote on February 18, 2008 8:37 am:
" First to Roger.. You place your right hand over your heart when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, not singing our National Anthem. Second, why should people buy flag lapels, or "I support the troops" magnetic slogans when they are all made in China. If you support the troops, do everything you can to bring them home, like with your vote. And one other item, please turn the channel Roger. Fixed Noise is warping your sense of judgement.

Nick's statement "I believe that if we make it mandatory for the accused to have this device installed" is very troubling. I thought we were innocent until proven guilty. These devices will not stop people from driving while intoxicated. They only serve to increase the profits of the executives that own the companies where these devices are made. If you want to make a real impact, why not just call for the prohibition of alcohol all together? Oh, I know, because your Nascar races would cease to exist without the $$ sponsor money. "

Brice Sullivan wrote on February 18, 2008 8:50 am:
" Roger, you're either not entirely forthcoming, or you simply don't know the facts, I won't guess which. Obama did not "refuse" to place his hand over his heart during the anthem, he clapsed his hands in respect as he listened to the singer playing a very "original" version of the song. Why don't you complain about all the images and film of him placing his hand over his heart? Also, he and the other candidates were facing away from the flag at the time, none of them should have had their hands over their hearts as they were facing the wrong direction. And when did a lapel pin demonstrate your level of allegiance to this country? He stopped wearing his because of this very issue. Most people who do wear them do it for the wrong reasons. "

Sue F. wrote on February 18, 2008 8:52 am:
" Roger, your definition of a patriot is sorely lacking. I would rather have a President that respects the constitution and does not wear a flag pin than one who hides behind the flag when destroying our civil rights.
"I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag." Rep. Craig Washington (D)

"

Big Chief wrote on February 18, 2008 9:01 am:
" Roger I will probably not vote for Barrack Obama but if I decide not to it will not be because he does not place his hand over his heart or refuses to wear a flag pin. I don't agree with very many of his policies and I would not vote for him for that reason. As far as character and integrity Mr. Obama seems to have them. Those are two traits that are important and seem to be lacking in many of the other candidates in both the GOP and Democrats. "

ALW wrote on February 18, 2008 9:16 am:
" My fiance's ex-wife got her 2nd DUI with her kids in the car. They dropped the child neglect charge so she would plead guilty to a lesser offense. She was supposed to get an ignition lock OR have a suspended license for 90 days. She did neither. Oh and when I called her probation officer to report her for driving on a suspended license, he did nothing about it except to tell her that someone saw her driving. Her mother's solution to this was that they switch cars so that she could drive whenever she wanted and not be recognized. This is the caliber of people who get DUI's they don't care about anyone else or anything else except getting drunk. Even if you took their license away forever they'd continue to drive. Some people get one DUI and learn their lesson, some do not. I sincerely hope she doesn't kill anyone as she is still a drunk and drives herself home from the bars on a regular basis. "

Poll wrote on February 18, 2008 9:27 am:
" I just did a quick, informal poll of 17 people in my office with an age range of 22-59. 1 person said they put their hand on their heart during the National Anthem. ONE PERSON
I certainly don't put my hand on my heart during the National Anthem and served 10 years in the Army. "

truth wrote on February 18, 2008 9:30 am:
" any TRUE patriot will vote for the candidate that will best serve this great nation. any true patriot would not be concerned with such arbitrary symbols as a flag pin. a true patriot would raise a valid argument against a candidate and not resort to some petty form of right wing attacks. "

Tammy wrote on February 18, 2008 9:46 am:
" I don't always put my hand on my heart during the National Anthem. My husband is a former Marine, and he stands at some sort of attention or parade rest during the National Anthem...his hand is not on his heart. "

whatever wrote on February 18, 2008 9:52 am:
" Most places I go when the national anthem is sung you place your hand on your heart, that's what people do. It's interesting how so many of us are ignorant of our customs and practices. Here's something to ponder from www.usflag.com regarding the playing of the national anthem from the Flag Code of the United States of America. Conduct during playing: "During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. When the flag is not displayed, those present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed there." Maybe my baby boomer generation is unique or the public schools I attended in Nebraska were unique, but this is what I was taught in grade school. "

Luke wrote on February 18, 2008 10:00 am:
" I wouldn't put my hand over my heart for ANY socialist country - the U.S. or otherwise. "

Matt P. wrote on February 18, 2008 10:09 am:
" Nick, we could also do away with due process entirely and require everyone to have ignition locks. I'm all for stiffer penalties for convicted drunk drivers, however a line must be drawn between convicted and accused. "

MarkyMark wrote on February 18, 2008 10:21 am:
" The letter written by Roger is getting trashed in this blog and rightfully so. If there is one thing Americans are tired of is this insistance on "Symbolism over Substance". I've got a hunch that this is not the real reason that Roger would not vote for Barack. Maybe he is supporting Hillary? hmmm "

Nate wrote on February 18, 2008 10:24 am:
" According to the Lincoln Police Dept. accident report, Betty, you violated a "DON'T WALK" signal. Why are you complaining? "

another mother wrote on February 18, 2008 10:46 am:
" I would love to comment on most of these letters but one that really got to me was the steriod one. Good point, guess what? In this country we want our athletes to be Super Stars, we want them stronger than the other team, the other olympians and what not. I dont care if they choose to destroy their bodies (in the long run) by doing performance enhancement drugs. Who cares. We are in a war, a recession, and an all around bad 7 years right now. I dont care if Roger Clemens did it, I dont care!! Leave them alone, its not that important in this day and age. Is it bad for you, sure it is, but dont we push them to do this? Just like we push actresses to be sickly skinny for the good parts, and the actors to be super hunks to stay on top of the game. Same difference IMO. "

Sylvia wrote on February 18, 2008 10:57 am:
" During the National Anthem, I take off my hat if I am wearing one. I hold both of my hands behind my back. Before the government wanted to illegally bug my calls, I used to sing along with the classic words, not singing "RED" any louder than any other part of the song, like some big RED buffoons do.

Now I just sing, "bug my phone, tap our calls, bug my phone, tap our calls, fourth amendment, fourth amendment, bug my phone, tap our calls." "

To Nate wrote on February 18, 2008 11:17 am:
" Last I checked ALL vehicles need to yield to pedestrians, no that doesn't give them the right to cross the street when they whenever they want but drivers are to yield to them. Don't be so cold hearted, Betty got seriously hurt!! "

Z4CH wrote on February 18, 2008 11:26 am:
" the Flag Code of the United States of America is a legal document and said "SHOULD stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart." If it was required than it would say just that...REQUIRED.

People like Roger Kopf just don't understand how important our right to vote is if they judge a candidate on if they where a flag pin made in China or not. "

KP wrote on February 18, 2008 11:44 am:
" Luke's got it right! Our country has lost so many freedoms its sad! And our country is headed down a path
that is really scary, and even some city's and state are
about as socialist as it gets!! I would think some one
wanting to lead this country would have in their heart and minds the importance showing their patriotism by
age old symbols of love and respect for our country!!
Then again, this could be an indication that the job
of leadership of the people is ONLY in THEIR OWN best
and financial INTEREST!!!!! If they are elected for
President, then that shows forgieners and immigrants that
they don't need to honor the U.S. We have gotten to the
point the Presidency is for the power, money, pension,
health insurance, security guards. Good grief, look
how lucky Hillary is, doing all this campaigning with
Security guards at her heals while the taxpayers are
paying for it. Ain't life grand when you can snooker
the people, while they try to figure out how to give the
middle class & poor $300.00 or $600.00 dollars. Whoopy!
Be sure you spend it at the gas pump so the oil companies
can make billions more!!! "

E Jr wrote on February 18, 2008 12:42 pm:
" My guess is that Roger Kopf is being sarcastic. Of course, a flag lapel pin doesn't make a person a patriot or make a person more qualified to be President. Very funny, Roger! "

rac wrote on February 18, 2008 12:51 pm:
" Francis, I think the behavior you're engaging with your brother is known as "enabling". Is what you should have done to help him is put him through in-patient treatment, then helped him with an apartment away from his "friends" and that neighborhood, where those traits you described are common-place. "

Alcohol related wrote on February 18, 2008 1:32 pm:
" I won’t argue that drunk driving is a big problem. I will argue that your cited statistic “drunken driving accidents estimated to kill someone every 32 minutes” is erroneous. There are statistics available which indicate that “alcohol-related” accidents kill someone in the United States every 32 minutes.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) defines a fatal crash as “alcohol-related” or alcohol-involved if either a driver or a non-motorist (usually a pedestrian) had a measurable or estimated blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.01 grams per deciliter (g/dl) or above. NHTSA defines a nonfatal crash as alcohol-related or alcohol-involved if police indicate on the police accident report that there is evidence of alcohol present. The code does not necessarily mean that a driver or nonoccupant was tested for alcohol.

In other words, if a driver or other involved person can be found or “estimated” to be at 1/8th of the level to be legally intoxicated (.08), or if an empty beer can is found at the scene, an accident is deemed to be an alcohol related crash, regardless of fault. Seems somewhat misleading, doesn’t it?
"

cw wrote on February 18, 2008 1:40 pm:
" Makes me proud to see the canidates wearing a MADE IN CHINA USA flag pin. "

Tougher Drunk Driving Penalties wrote on February 18, 2008 3:58 pm:
" I agree that there needs to be harsher penalties for those convicted of driving drunk. Unfortunately, I do not think the interlock system is the solution. People who drink and drive already have no respect for the law and will continue to break said laws even after they have been caught, convicted, and "punished". What's the solution, then? I'm not sure, but I know that as long as we glamourize drinking and getting drunk and showcase "celebrities" and their antics, it's not going to get any better. "

What wrote on February 18, 2008 4:29 pm:
" makes you think a terrorist wouldn't wear a flag lapel pin? Just because someone is wearing one, doesn't make that person a patriot.

A true patriot will speak up against the government when that individual feels the government is wrong and not follow blindly like some want. "

Don wrote on February 18, 2008 9:13 pm:
" I think after the third DWI offence their car should be impounded and destroyed. "

Nate wrote on February 18, 2008 9:57 pm:
" I'm not cold-hearted, I just want people to accept responsibility for their actions.

NE §60-6,124: '(2) No pedestrian shall start to cross the roadway in the direction of a DONT WALK indication...'

NE §60-6,152: '(1) A pedestrian shall obey the instructions of any traffic control device specifically applicable to pedestrians unless otherwise directed by a peace officer. (2) Pedestrians shall be subject to traffic and pedestrian-control signals as provided in the Nebraska Rules of the Road.'

NE §60-6,153: '(2) No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is impossible for the driver to stop.' "

Here is a suggestion for Lincoln wrote on February 19, 2008 10:40 am:
" and having safe rides instead of driving drunk. Let another cab company here! There are two, and when you call one it goes to the other, so obviously it is just one company. There is a monopoly and it is pathetic. It is next to impossible to get cabs here. Hire more cabs on the weekends and problem solved. The rates are insane and I have been denied service because I lived too far from downtown, the driver didn't want to take me home because he wouldn't be able to get another fare. Thanks Linocln! "

I have a theory for Lincoln. wrote on February 19, 2008 10:51 am:
" There are possibly 5 cabs at the MOST here in Lincoln. All people know it is impossible to get a cab. All the cabs are under one company name. The city council is against letting another cab company into Lincoln (just like most other businesses) and I wonder why that is? Because this city makes a killing on DUI and DWI tickets. Every city I have been to the size of Lincoln always has plenty of cabs so the people can go out have a responsible time and do the same getting home. "

That Guy wrote on February 19, 2008 11:49 am:
" One option for drunk driving is a zero-tolerance policy, similar to the one used in Germany.

If you are EVER caught with a BAC level above the legally allowable amount (.08, let's say), then you lose your license FOREVER. NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

If there is no excuse for ever driving drunk (which there isn't), then we should punish people in a similar fashion - they never get to drive again. And, it'd be good for the environment! "

drunk drivers R dumb wrote on February 19, 2008 3:07 pm:
" I think it's naive to assume that the number of cabs available is the cause for so many drunk drivers. It's not just late night drives home from the bars that constitute so many of the DUI stops. I think it would be essential if people changed their attitude about drunk driving. I hear people say they did it, do it, and the attitude seems to be more about 'not getting caught' and 'not being THAT drunk'. The reality is, any consumption causes impairment. We need to stop letting people that we know are impaired, drive. So what if they get mad. Let them stomp off into the night angry. Serves them right. "