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Letters, 2/13: Caucus night was powerful

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Wednesday, Feb 13, 2008 - 12:08:33 am CST

It’s been a long time since I’ve really cared about American politics.

But Saturday night, I felt something different, something new and alive.

I attended the first-ever Nebraska Democratic caucus.

There I met neighbors, friends, strangers, talking in real-life terms about why they really believed in this candidate or that, talking about issues that impacted their lives and talking about an election they really thought mattered and upon which they thought they could have some sort of impact.

No person there that I met had any illusions of power or grandeur. We were mucking about in the smallest sty of the unwashed political process: the local caucus. But we Nebraskans had never had the chance at that. Whatever forces aligned to build the system we have, we had been excluded from that shoulder-to-shoulder tumult.

We, the people, overwhelmed the system Saturday night. No one in the local party, no one in government, no one anywhere predicted how we would turn out when it seemed we might actually be heard.

And we turned out. The caucus for my Near South neighborhood was at the Lincoln High School cafeteria. People kept coming, streaming in the old school doors, changing party affiliation just to be part of the process, part of something they could believe in.           

For me, it was magic. 

Roger German, Lincoln

Behaved like unruly toddlers

I went to our local caucus Saturday as an undecided voter and left as a disgruntled undecided voter.

I’ve done a lot of research regarding the two Democratic candidates. I like Hillary Clinton’s stand on some issues and Barack Obama’s stand on other issues. I was looking forward to spirited debates between the two camps to help swing my vote for one candidate or another.

Instead, I heard one man proclaim Obama was the better candidate because he wrote an excellent book. I think Edgar Allen Poe is a literary genius, but do I think he would’ve made a great president?  To quote the raven, “Nevermore.”

I heard one lady state that because of her wealth of experience, Clinton was the candidate that could beat John McCain. Seattle Slew had several years of experience in winning horse races. Do I think he’d make a great president? To quote Mr. Ed, “Nooo waaaaay, Wilbur.”

As I stated before, I was looking forward to a spirited debate of the issues from both sides. Instead, I felt like I’d stumbled upon a small, unruly day care where the caregivers had snuck out the back door. I witnessed name-calling, people trying to outshout each other and others heckling the speakers.

Did any of these behaviors help me resolve my concerns on the issues and pick a candidate? No, but I did have to stifle an urge to assign timeouts to the unruly tots and to think fondly back to the days when a Nebraska primary chose the candidates.

Cindy Wieger, Beatrice

Slanted against democracy

The Democratic caucuses held in Nebraska disenfranchised a majority of party members, produced a distorted result and alienated many registered Democrats. Instead of a regular primary election, where all party members could vote, people were forced to physically attend one meeting at a specific time and place, which many voters were unable to do. The results do not represent the true voting choices of the party members.

In almost every state that has held a caucus, Barack Obama has won. Most states with a primary election have gone to Hillary Clinton or been within a small margin, not the 2-1 margin of the Nebraska caucuses. The fewer Republican caucuses also have produced radically different results from primary elections.

This system is slanted to the extreme wings of each party, at the expense of true democracy.

Ed Forde, Lincoln

I-80 needs median barriers

 The death of beloved University of Nebraska-Lincoln Vice Chancellor Kent Hendrickson is the third recent fatal accident on Interstate 80 resulting from vehicles crossing the median and slamming into oncoming traffic.

It leads me to a repeated request for the state Roads Department to seriously consider installing barriers. We should follow the lead of Oklahoma and Texas, which have been putting up steel post and cable barriers along I-35 and I-45 on alternating left shoulders or down the middle of the median so there is continual protection. 

 As I-80 becomes three lanes each way, which guarantees more and faster traffic, the concrete barriers west out of Omaha for a few miles should be extended or post and cable barriers installed.

When you consider all the potential dangers speeding toward you involving drugs, alcohol, blowouts, heart attacks, icy roads, drivers falling sleep or distracted, or overcorrecting to miss an animal, it would be comforting — make that life-saving — to have some protection from oncoming traffic.

 Don Gill, Lincoln

An ineffective solution

As a fellow environmental historian, I feel compelled to respond to Francis Moul’s Local View (LJS, Feb. 2) that advocates outlawing internal combustion engines in Lincoln’s downtown. I find his proposal misguided and dangerous. His closing reference to Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World” — an iconic utopian vision of a future society “perfected” by government intervention at great, albeit unintended, expense — is apt.

Contrary to Moul’s assertions, horse-drawn carriages, as well as vinyl records, are still manufactured. While denying the existence of certain products, he has no problem basing his solution on as- yet-elusive technology. I am less optimistic for the chances of pollution-free sources of transportation. After all, even horses create emissions.

Furthermore, I do not understand why these devices, whatever their origin, need to be restricted to governmental buses and, presumably, state-sponsored taxi and delivery systems.

Convinced of the certainty of his opinions and willing to impose them through state power, Moul effectively recasts the impulses against which Huxley reacted into a “green, new world.”

I am sure that only the best intentions motivated Moul’s column. Regardless, the past is riddled with disasters instigated by noble yet ill-conceived remedies. Outlawing problems offers simple solutions but rarely results in effective change.

David Nesheim, Lincoln


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Oops, Ed wrote on February 13, 2008 7:32 am:
" The primaries last night would beg to differ with your statement above. "

Comman Sense wrote on February 13, 2008 7:50 am:
" Welcome to the world of "machine politics". Another proven exercise of how dare the people question the political machines ordained choices. The statement that the Nebraska Democrat Party was not "prepared" for the response and turnout almost proves the point. I am betting they were betting on voter apathy again, and the pre-agreed upon one would get the nod. Hillary was banking on a low apathetic turnout, Obama knew big numbers were a win. Do we wonder why Hillary is on campaign manager three? "

Sue F. wrote on February 13, 2008 8:32 am:
" Roger, my caucus experience was very similar to yours. It was exciting and I felt like we were all part of the process. For all the nay sayers, you still have the ability to vote absentee in the caucus and the turn out was a better percentage than a lot of primary elections. Quit whining and get involved. "

Josh wrote on February 13, 2008 9:03 am:
" The primaries last night beg to differ in the number of participants as well - look at how many people actually got to particiapte as opposed to the tiny showing here. Let the people have their say and go back to the primary. "

Laurie wrote on February 13, 2008 9:07 am:
" Re: interstate medians- In Oregon along much of I-5 they use blackberry bushes. The canes form sort of a net that catches wayward traffic. I don't know how well blackberry does in Nebraska (although the untended raspberry canes in my yard seem to do very well), but perhaps there is a similar plant material native to Nebraska that would substitute. Cheaper than concrete and more attractive too. I agree that the median needs something. "

what? wrote on February 13, 2008 9:13 am:
" How can you compare political experience to a horse's experience running races? That is the worst comparison I have ever heard. "

Sadly wrote on February 13, 2008 9:14 am:
" Sadly, Cindy, the Nebraska primaries NEVER chose a candidate, it was a neutered vote, a meaningless show. At least this process gave the state a say in the process and brought the candidates (well at least one) to our state. They never would have even considered stopping here before. Thanks to all the leaders who made this process happen. "

Zach wrote on February 13, 2008 9:22 am:
" I don't think it was the caucus as much as the timing the lead to the numbers that turned out. More people participate in the presidential primary because they are there to vote on local issues like school board, city council, unicameral candidates. They aren't as involved in who should be the president, but vote because it's on the ballot. It would have been interesting if we had kept the primary, but still had it on the early February date. My guess is turnout would been about the same. "

Farm Girl wrote on February 13, 2008 9:25 am:
" I know a number of the county & precint organizers. Most got twice the turn out they were expecting - including in the panhandle. BTW don't assume the "machine politics" favored Clinton. One of the NE State Dem's high mucky-mucks Vincent Powers made it very clear that Obama was his candidate. "

Wrong! wrote on February 13, 2008 9:42 am:
" Take a look at last nights primaries where Sen. Obama cleaned up. 2-1 margins. I imagine that you Ed, are out of the main stream and out of touch with what a majority of Democrats across this state and this country think. If you would like us to go back to a primary date where the Democratic Presidential race here in Nebraska has not mattered in decades, by all means, join your local county party and do so.

If people in Nebraska who identify themselves as Democrats don't understand what it takes to get Democrats elected and build this party, then they won't undestand the importance of the caucus!

Stop sitting in your nay-saying tower and come down to the ground level and help us out! "

CS wrote on February 13, 2008 10:16 am:
" What did you think a caucus was? If you wanted spirited debates and decorum you went to the wrong place. Caucuses are like family reunions where you are the new boyfriend or girlfriend. The family tries to convince you to take sides in the myriad of family issues because you are unconvinced who to side with, and they will be loud and unruly if they have to be. Are civics classes not taught anymore? Debates are debates, caucuses are a big rah rah party to convince others by any means possible. "

Need wrote on February 13, 2008 10:54 am:
" Where I live they have put posts and cables in the median. It has already proven itself. Its a low cost, low maintenance item. I doubt if nebraska has anything soon like it, because it will have to do a study to see if it works. Also its new enough that the state of nebraska will sit back for 20 years to see if its something they like. "

MarkyMark wrote on February 13, 2008 11:12 am:
" A caucus in my mind is Un-American as it doesn't count as a vote.... What this Country needs because of this long drawn out process is a national primary day in early February so that all the voting is done in one day. No more Caucuses which is a very inaccurate way to appoint a nominee. "

Max wrote on February 13, 2008 11:45 am:
" Ed Forde is absolutely right. I will not go to a caucuse
and have to go on their terms and be primed and persuaded
to go to one candidate vs another. Too many people can
be persuaded that really felt different in the beginning.
Therefore, their decisions are being questioned, swayed
and just another rah rah for a person or groups forceful
personal decisions. One person told me they had their
preference in a best candidate but "everybody was going
for this other candidate and they talked me into it."
What kind of freedom do you call that?????? And these
candidates know this will be the outcome!!!! A good
percent of the time people will SLIDE in the the bigger
crowd and say, "well thats what they said and everybody
was going that way." "

Jeff wrote on February 13, 2008 11:48 am:
" I enjoyed actually seeing that there are other democrats in my district (they aren't all republicans). AND, they are young and old, rich and poor, a very diverse and a good cross section of our country. It wasn't all that effective of a debate, but it was an enjoyable change. Around here you get the feeling drummed into you that democrats are "godless" liberals with fluctuating values and principals. Of course I knew I wasn't that way and that is all the usual neoconservative yak, but you see people around you drinking that koolaid, and this was a nice reminder that there are a lot of democrats around here, and they are "great Americans". It's a great time to be a democrat, because the ineffective 8 years of the administrative branch that we've endured is about to be turned over to us. "

Z4CH wrote on February 13, 2008 12:06 pm:
" I agree with Mr.German as well and I'd like to add the fact that voters are going to a caucus doesn't absolve them of the obligation to educate them self.
Fells good to know NE Dems had a affect on the national race.
"

Congrats! wrote on February 13, 2008 12:30 pm:
" Congratulations Cindy, you just found out how the democrats of today really behave. Watch closely and you will see it all over the nation. I would love to see the old democrat party return not this new socialism we see today. "

mom wrote on February 13, 2008 5:13 pm:
" I have to agree that the caucus was very enjoyable and really gave you a feeling of being involved and having an impact on our country's future. As a Democrat in this conservative state where the "elephant" is all too common, I joked that I actually felt like I was "coming out" with my political affiliation. It was great to meet with other similar-minded people and discuss the issues/candidates. People were giving careful thought to their choice and listened to other's opinions. It made a lot more sense than just marking a ballot. Ed's comment about people not being able to meet in one time and place is not accurate - there was a provision to express your preference as an absentee in the caucus process. I hope we get to experience the caucus again in the next presidential election. "

Cole wrote on February 13, 2008 5:48 pm:
" After the caucuses, LJS published a color-coded map of the levels of Obama support in Lincoln by geographic area. Can any fellow commenters explain the stark, dark blue or 'strong' areas in the area of 56th and O to Holdredge? It stood out and looked rather odd on the map as everything around it was very light. "

CS wrote on February 13, 2008 5:52 pm:
" Who's fault is that if they are so easily swayed? Good grief-lets blame the fact that everyone else did it, too? Isn't that what got Republicans elected again? If a voter has so little will power to do any research on candidates, watch the news, read the internet, MTV, whatever, and can be so easily swayed, id rather they didn't vote. "

Caucus Lover wrote on February 13, 2008 7:43 pm:
" Re: Congrats! If you think this Democratic party is more socialist than that of FDR or LBJ - you're just crazy. More likely you don't actually know what you're talking about.

I'll second that on Ed - last night's results were all primaries and all as big as Nebraska. That Clinton can't get herself organized enough to contest caucuses and doesn't have have the enthusiasm necessary to get her people out in caucuses isn't Obama's problem and has to make you wonder how she'll motivate American's as president. Obama is the better candidate running the better campaign and your comments are obvious sour grapes. "

Yikes wrote on February 13, 2008 9:17 pm:
" According to a National business letter, Obama is for
all the taxes he can get, Hillary is inbetween and
of course McCain is for not raising any taxes. Therefore,
Obama will spend big time, and Hillary will follow some
what close behind. Seems alot of Dems want they taxes
raised all they can and the gov to spend all they can!!! "

Amie wrote on February 14, 2008 7:55 am:
" Regarding Cindy Wieger's comment about Obama's book: The Audacity of Hope is about politics. It includes his views on the interpretation of the Constitution and how government should work and serve the citizenry. It is not fiction or poetry. Agreeing with the ideas in that book is a valid reason to support Obama as a candidate. Perhaps you should have read at least some portion of it up before you commented on it. "

Farm Girl wrote on February 14, 2008 9:26 am:
" W has run up some of the biggest deficits in history & SPENT the surplus that was supposed to pay down the debt. Anyone coming into office is going to have to spend money like crazy just to reduce our debt. "

spend??? wrote on February 14, 2008 1:34 pm:
" Spend to reduce debt. Isn't that kind of like drive more to reduce using gasoline? "

Grundle wrote on February 14, 2008 1:39 pm:
" How is the government spending money going to reduce the government's debt?! Basic math tells us that adding two negatives together gives you a bigger negative! Heck simple economics will tell a person that, if they owe $2000 in credit card debt, running out and spending more money is not going to decrease that debt. "