Heineman: I'll veto home-school testing bill
BY ARGENIS VILLA / Lincoln Journal Star
Gov. Dave Heineman opposes a bill in the Legislature that would require home-schooled students to take standardized tests, he told more than 600 home-schooled students and their parents at the Capitol Wednesday.
“If that bill comes across my desk, then I will veto it,” he said. “But I think if we all do our homework, then it won’t make it to my desk.”
Heineman spoke during the Nebraska Christian Home Educators Association annual Home Educators Legislative Day.
Other state officials who spoke included State Auditor Mike Foley and state Sens. Carol Hudkins of Malcolm, Tony Fulton of Lincoln and Phil Erdman of Bayard.
The event was held to teach home-schoolers about how legislation works. Home-schooling families also got to meet senators from their districts to talk about LB1141, a bill introduced by Sen. DiAnna Schimek of Lincoln that would require standardized testing of home-schooled students.
Schimek’s bill says children in all exempt schools must be evaluated annually using a nationally recognized standardized test or another assessment developed or approved by the state commissioner of education.
Instead of the annual test, a parent could offer all of these: a book of lesson plans or other written records of subjects and activities; a portfolio of the child’s work including a curriculum outline; copies of homework or class work and projects; and other tests taken by the student. The information would be reviewed and reported to the state by a certified educator.
The annual assessment would be conducted by the commissioner or a designee.
If the student has failed to make adequate progress, he or she would have to attend an accredited school at the beginning of the next school year.
Jeff Collins, 38, of Lincoln, attended the Legislative Day. He said he has eight children and home schools five of them with his wife, Julie, 40.
“I am very much opposed to the state regulating our teaching,” Collins said. “I think education is more than just standardized testing.”
Reach Argenis Villa at 473-7438 or avilla@journalstar.com.

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Herb wrote on February 6, 2008 1:20 pm:
Wow wrote on February 6, 2008 1:20 pm:
Grundle wrote on February 6, 2008 1:21 pm:
Mike wrote on February 6, 2008 1:24 pm:
BW wrote on February 6, 2008 1:33 pm:
with some common sense. Thank you sir, keep fightin' for
us little guys and I'll vote for you as President of the
U.S. This state will only survive when right becomes right
and wrong becomes wrong. With all the home-schooled kids,
the property taxes need to come down. More kids are
home-schooled and the schools think they need more money.
Doesn't add up on my calculator!!!!!!!! We're paying
higher & higher taxes to the schools for not doing the
job they were hired to do!!! Thats wrong!! "
Why not test? wrote on February 6, 2008 1:34 pm:
Sweet wrote on February 6, 2008 1:36 pm:
Child left behind wrote on February 6, 2008 2:22 pm:
cool wrote on February 6, 2008 2:30 pm:
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Perfect wrote on February 6, 2008 2:35 pm:
Matt wrote on February 6, 2008 2:58 pm:
Let big bro in wrote on February 6, 2008 2:59 pm:
For the last time wrote on February 6, 2008 3:22 pm:
Yes - the audacity of this senator to try and protect children. How dare she! "
What else to veto wrote on February 6, 2008 3:34 pm:
Small minded politics wrote on February 6, 2008 3:38 pm:
pandering wrote on February 6, 2008 3:45 pm:
Its interesting that the govenor will pander to a very vocal minority. Would this trick work for other things? Can we kill of any proposed bill by kicking and screaming and carrying on like a 2 year old in the candy isle who has just be told "No, you can't has a candy bar."? "
Subjectivity is ranpant! wrote on February 6, 2008 3:47 pm:
You'd think a crime was being committed or something illegal was happening.
It seems obvious that the public school system in in trouble and it's supporters are running out of money to further their agenda. It seems they will do almost anything to get control of more children and thus more funding. Seems it is all about control through numbers and dollars! Why not just admit the truth and stop the parental and child insults.
Some of the posted comments by those venting against home school freedoms are shameful and insulting, let alone subjective and biased.
There are many more unjust causes to fight and the Governor is right on this one.
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to Wow wrote on February 6, 2008 3:52 pm:
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Not going to college? wrote on February 6, 2008 4:00 pm:
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Home school wrote on February 6, 2008 4:22 pm:
Rushville Native wrote on February 6, 2008 4:32 pm:
JB wrote on February 6, 2008 4:34 pm:
homeschool mom wrote on February 6, 2008 4:37 pm:
Yvonne wrote on February 6, 2008 4:42 pm:
This would be no different than the state walking into Pious or Lincoln Christian, or Lincoln Lutheran and demanding that they submit to a test that the state selects, pay for the test and the administering of the test, and if any student fails to score at 50% or above they are forced to change schools. Is the same standard going to be adhered to in the public arena? Are all students that fail to score at 50% or above going to be forced to go somewhere else. Of course not, the public school establishment would never allow that to happen.
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Ernest wrote on February 6, 2008 5:33 pm:
Wake up and save the State. "
I'm still curious wrote on February 6, 2008 5:34 pm:
I don't get it wrote on February 6, 2008 5:41 pm:
Here's why it's pandering wrote on February 6, 2008 5:50 pm:
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NO FEAR OF TESTS wrote on February 6, 2008 6:40 pm:
Remember, we are considering a population of 5,600 home-schooled students. The NE Dept. of Education reports indicate that approximately FIVE TIMES that many students in Nebraska public schools may not be meeting minimum state standards. Our tax dollars are paying for these children to receive an education! Why not worry about them instead of a small slice of the small population in non-accredited schools (who receive no taxpayer subsidies)? "
Glad to be gone wrote on February 6, 2008 6:46 pm:
Oy vey wrote on February 6, 2008 7:05 pm:
Tikki wrote on February 6, 2008 7:15 pm:
Oh, and what about the public school students who can't even read or write that are passed on from grade to grade each year? Do we shut down thier public schools? If you want it all to be the same for everyone, then it better be just that. "
The Omega Man wrote on February 6, 2008 7:15 pm:
I WAS HOME SCHOOLED wrote on February 6, 2008 7:38 pm:
Lest we Forget wrote on February 6, 2008 8:25 pm:
Social Worker wrote on February 6, 2008 8:37 pm:
Zippy wrote on February 6, 2008 8:50 pm:
Daisha wrote on February 6, 2008 8:57 pm:
I work with 1 child, one on one going at the speed that is necessary. Sometimes we cover a weeks worth of info in a day if they are understanding it. The government schools are over loaded! How can you expect one teacher to properly educate 25 to 30 kids. When a child in government school is behind they keep getting behind unless the PARENT steps in. What happens to government school kids who fail the same test? Are they held back? Are they sent to another school? Are they are passed to the next grade so "no child (is) left behind"? That would make the stats look better then they receive the money.
Home schooling is a life style from behaving at the bank or dr. appt, basic manners, counting back change or just finding out the best buy for the money on applesauce. Everything is teaching! All the home schooled kids I know are at least a grade ahead if not 2, and graduate when they are 15 or 16. Yes, we do test. On our own (Iowa basic or sat 10) and we even provide high school transcripts to employers or colleges. UNL is on the top of the list for colleges that accept home schooled young adults. What is the percent of government school kids that go to college? home schooled kids? I have not met one family yet that has not had their child attend college. I would like to see the stats on that.
I work nights so that I am able to do this, it is a sacrifice for my family. I have a college degree but CHOOSE to raise my child. It would be easier to send him to school. SO, Why would I set my child up to fail?!?
And to the teacher who has to loan equipment to us... we pay taxes too! I pay her salary and for a school my child will never see! (but I do not ask for a break on my taxes)
This is a non-exictant problem and I am tried of defending my right as a parent! "
T Mac wrote on February 6, 2008 9:43 pm:
knowledge is power wrote on February 6, 2008 9:50 pm:
My issue is with the fact that if for some reason one of my children didn't do well they would then be required to go to an accredited school. What happens with the public schooled kids who don't pass? They are obviously in an accredited school and yet many of them aren't passing. Is there a promise from the government that all kids in public schools will pass??????
To the person who made a comment about a family being out during daytime hours shopping, it could've well been me and guess what while all of the public schools had a snow day today my kids did reading, math, history, science, language arts and typing lessons. Oh btw we also visited the library and attended chess club and Tae Kwon Do. Thank you all for being so concerned about my poor sheltered kids who aren't being parented by the state.
Not that I owe anyone an explanation but while most schools take a break during the summer I believe learning takes place daily so I do not take a summer break. The only time we don't do school is on vacation and yet I still require my kids to journal about their experience and we usually find some way to visit a famous landmark, museum, etc. You really should learn more about what's going on with those families before you jump to a conclusion. "
Rex wrote on February 6, 2008 10:15 pm:
my former state, but not in Nebraska!!!! Funny how I
graduated from Nebraska public school and when I moved to
another state, before I could go to college I had to
take alot of my 'NEBRASKA PUBLIC SCHOOL lessons OVER!!!!!
I'll NEVER forgive this state for that!!!! I wouldn't
send my kid to a Nebraska public school for all the money
in the world!!!! "
Heather wrote on February 6, 2008 10:16 pm:
WWTOD wrote on February 6, 2008 10:56 pm:
Schimek herself said she has "no evidence" to prove kids aren't getting a good education in home-school situations... she just has "heard some things from educators and others." Anyone suppose "others" include her husband, who is a lobbyist for the teachers's union? Hmmmm?
As others have state, this has nothing to do with being "concerned" about the children and their education. This is about money and power.
More power to Gov. Heineman for taking a stand, just like he did with the Class I schools. Just wait, private schools... you'll be next. "
Sarah wrote on February 6, 2008 11:24 pm:
Now if it was up to me I would certainly allow home schoolers to opt out of any testing by the state. But those parents would also lose the child tax credit. "
P. Robert wrote on February 6, 2008 11:43 pm:
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Heineman needs to leave this alone. "
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There is so much venom, prejudice, and poor information in these posts that it boggles the mind. "
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M wrote on February 7, 2008 9:04 am:
I was homeschooled from third grade until my junior year of high school. At that time, I attended the University of Minnesota, earning high school and college credits at the same time. Two months after I turned 21, I graduated with a B.S. in biochemistry and a minor in child psychology. I am in my last semester of law school at the University of Nebraska-College of Law.
I took education law through UNL’s education graduate program last summer. The majority of the other students were teachers who were earning their master's in education administration. Those people were the supposed to be the brightest of the brightest of Lincoln’s teachers. They made me thankful that I was homeschooled, and further bolstered my resolve to not send my own children to public school.
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D wrote on February 7, 2008 1:20 pm:
As for teaching preschoolers, I taught my daughter to read at the age of 3. She was an avid reader from the get go and has an unquenchable thirst for knowledge. When she began kindergarten, her public school teacher said they don't like to "push" kids. I guess since many of the other students were learning their colors in kindergarten, she saw my daughter as a child that was going to cause her to actually work.
I was very involved in the public school. I volunteered in the classroom, I was chairperson for the yearbook, and I went to all of my kids' field trips. I wish more parents would get involved in the public school, actually go to the classroom and see how the kids are being taught, volunteer to help the teacher with their many, many duties (they need it and they'll truly appreciate ALL your help), but beware... once your eyes are open to the truth, you might choose homeschooling your own children to ensure their education. I did and I LOVE it!
One more thing, thank you to all of the public school teachers for all of your efforts and energy. I'm not against public school, only against slack, bad teachers who use the classroom for their own agenda. I'm FOR giving raises to good teachers! If you public school folks want to rally around something, how about rally around your good teachers so you can KEEP them!
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Who's doing the complaining? wrote on February 7, 2008 1:40 pm:
I suggest, for a change, that you mind your own business and leave both parents and children who home school alone. We do not criticize how you live your lives and frankly don't care what you think about our choices. Many of you need a "real" education about what life is all about! And by the way, life is not about government or public entities ruling our lives.
Please pay closer attention to your own lives and leave those of us who strive for the best of our children alone. Let me remind you that in all of this, we are not telling you how to run your lives. And by the way...no matter how hard you try to say otherwise...you do not have the best interest of our children in mind. If you represent the public school interest and their striving for money, control and power, you only have it's agenda and your jobs in "your best interest". Enough of the bashing and insulting remarks. Your arguments are lacking.
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Rys wrote on February 7, 2008 1:54 pm:
My mother did not even graduate high school, and yet she