Testing proposed for home schoolers
BY JoANNE YOUNG / Lincoln Journal Star
The Rev. Everett Sileven has long ago left the state.
His nonapproved school, operated in the late 1970s and early 1980s by Faith Baptist Church in Louisville, has long since closed and the church eventually was sold.
But Lincoln Sen. DiAnna Schimek hasn’t forgotten the turmoil caused when Sileven defied the state and refused to close his school, which did not have certified teachers. Sileven, the state and Cass County clashed for six years over the school, which was padlocked a couple of times, and Sileven was jailed.
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The 10 Nebraska counties with the greatest number of students exempted for home and church schools in 2006-07:
Douglas - 1,262
Lancaster - 904
Sarpy - 585
Cass - 183
Lincoln - 157
Washington - 141
Platte - 125
Seward - 123
Scotts Bluff - 114
Buffalo - 114
It was a firestorm clash of church and state, and Schimek has been reluctant to open — even a crack — the door that closed when the Legislature passed a law that allowed exemptions for home and church schools.
“It tore the state apart,” Schimek said. “It was extremely difficult in the Legislature. There was such a difference of opinion on whether home schools should be allowed or not.”
Still, the idea for a bill that would require those exempt schools to show their students’ academic progress simmered on the back burner of Schimek’s agenda.
Now, in her last year as a state senator, she’s ready to move it to the front, even with the threat that it might boil over.
“How do we know what’s happening in home schools?” she asked.
Nebraska’s constitution says the state must provide education to all children ages 5 to 21.
“To me, that says we have some responsibility to know children are being educated,” Schimek said.
The law crafted by the Legislature 25 years ago says the state Department of Education would have oversight of exempt schools, and senators expected it.
As it turns out, even if department officials are allowed to visit a school to determine if kids are learning, an attorney general’s opinion says it can’t do anything about it if they’re not, said Russ Inbody, state Education Department’s administrator of school finance and organizational services.
Nearly 3,000 Nebraska families opt to educate their children outside of approved schools.
Students who attend unapproved schools because of religious reasons, or because their parents want to direct their children’s education without interference, numbered 5,596 last school year. Ninety-one percent are in single-family schools and the remainder in multi-family schools.
Schimek has no statistics on how many of these kids may not be getting a good education. She’s had questions and heard concerns from educators and others across the state, but no one asked her to bring the bill (LB1141) forward.
“This is my doing because it’s been my concern,” she said.
She patterned the bill after a similar law in Iowa, but adapted it to fit Nebraska’s system.
The bill says children in all schools that are not accredited or approved by the state — those that are exempted — must be evaluated annually using a nationally recognized standardized test or another assessment developed or approved by the state commissioner of education.
Instead of the annual test, a parent could offer all of these: a book of lesson plans or other written records of subjects and activities; a portfolio of the child’s work including a curriculum outline, copies of homework or class work and projects; other tests taken by the student. The information would be reviewed and reported to the state by a certified educator.
Children who are at least 6 and attending a home school for the first time must be evaluated to obtain academic baseline information.
The annual assessment would be conducted by the commissioner or a designee. The parent of the student would have to reimburse the department for the test.
If the student has failed to make adequate progress, he or she would have to enroll in and attend an accredited school at the beginning of the next school year.
Before introducing the bill, Schimek said she sat down with some home-schooling parents whose names were given to her by Sen. Phil Erdman of Bayard.
“My impression was there was nothing in the bill they might want to accept,” she said. “Home schoolers do not want the state requiring any more of them than we’re currently doing.”
She knows some parents are absolutely devoted to their children and are doing a great job providing a good curriculum and enrichment.
“Some are exceptional. There’s no question about it,” she said.
She still wants — at the very least — a discussion.
“I’m not trying to close home schools,” she said. “I want a way to assure policymakers children are being properly educated.”
Deb Badeer, with the Nebraska Christian Home Educators Association, tried to think of something in the bill she could support. She couldn’t.
“I respect the senator,” she said of Schimek. “I like her as a person. But I cannot see any need for (the bill).”
Badeer, who is in her 22nd year of home schooling, said it’s her experience that these children do really well.
She especially takes exception to the idea that children who don’t show adequate achievement would be forced to go to a public school. What about public school students who don’t show adequate achievement, she asked. Should they be required to enroll in a home school?
Badeer said many home- school parents already have their kids take standardized achievement tests, sometimes within the family school and sometimes in a group.
If people have reported to Schimek they have seen students out in the community rather than at home learning or studying, it may be because home-schooled students have more flexibility than those at accredited schools.
“Home education is a lifestyle,” she said.
If children are truly not meeting requirements to learn, they are covered under the state’s truancy laws, she said.
Suzanne Gage, on the board of Heartland Homeschoolers, said her organization has about 200 members and reaches at least 400 families. They provide help and enrichment for families and children, including such activities as spelling bees and science fairs.
She met with Schimek recently to talk about the bill, and to emphasize that home-schooling parents are immensely committed in effort and time. Only occasionally is there some errant person not doing what he or she should be.
“I think she’s talking about a very, very small narrow population,” Gage said. “If there are parents neglecting their children, we’d like them to be found out. That’s just not the experience we’ve had.”
She and her husband have home schooled five sons.
“I embrace it. I love it. I’m passionate about it,” she said.
She said her curriculum is much richer than what might be reflected in a book of lesson plans. Home-school parents don’t teach to a test, or drill on how to take standardized tests, so she doesn’t know how they might do on annual standardized tests. Some kids — both in home and public schools — don’t test well, especially in high-pressure situations, she said.
An annual test would be a burden, she said.
Ron Zelt, who with his wife has home schooled four children — beginning in about 1991 — said his children have been tested for achievement with other home schoolers. Over the years they have taken different tests, such as the Iowa Test of Basic Skills or the Stanford Achievement Test.
Even so, he said, “I think a lot of folks would not enjoy the state increasing requirements on home schooling.”
Inbody said it’s true that the Education Department has no solid evidence home-schooled students are doing well.
“But in my personal opinion, the majority are doing a good job,” he said. “They’re trying to do the right thing.”
Reach JoAnne Young at 473-7228 or jyoung@journalstar.com.

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It should be noted that Sen. Schimek's husband is a lobbyist for the NSEA. "
Senator Schimek needs to keep her nose out of peoples business. You have heard the lie before and you will hear it again, "I am from the government and I am here to help." "
*Not home-educating parents, who would have to pay for baseline and annual tests.
*Not the population of home-schooled children, who would take tests under the burden of: "If I don't do well enough, I'll be pulled out of my school."
*Not home-educated children with learning disabilities, who may be forced into accredited schools unless state officials are satisfied with their parents' plans for remediation.
Might there be some home-schooled children with neglectful parents who will benefit from being placed in an accredited school? Perhaps, but not even Senator Schimek has been able to provide examples of such children.
Will public-schooled students be held to the same standards? Will they be tested annually at their parents' expense, and placed in other schools if they fail to progress? Such a requirement might benefit a much larger number of students in the state of Nebraska than LB1141. "
You must be kidding! There isn’t a program in placr for the Dept of Education to assure; measure; and monitor performance of children home schooled? That is neglecting the value of education and children. Maybe Dr. Christensen has been delinquent in due diligence. What have Raikes and the Education Committee been doing? Who is looking out for the children? Thank you DiAnna! "
The truth of this bill lies in this statement: "She's had questions and heard concerns from educators and others across the state.." Translation: "The Department of Ecuation and the teachers union (which are basically the same thing in Nebraska) wants me to do this, I owe them and they are calling in their favors before I'm term-limited out." Plain and simple.
As for the situation in Louisville, what a bunch of tripe. The senator is so worried about how that incident "ripped the state apart," yet she's introducing a bill that would encourage the same behavior by the state that caused that situation. Please.
This is just another step along the way of taking control from parents regarding their children's education. The union hated the Class I's because they produced high achievers, making others look bad, and they hate homeschoolers for the same reason.
Just give your kids to the government to raise, folks... and everything will be just fine.
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What Schimek and other government officials do not want to admit is that those in the homeschooling sector actually do better than their public school counterparts. If they were to admit this, then it would be extremely difficult to push for more money spent in public education and teacher salaries. Because these homeschooling and private schools have proven that they can do a better job than the state for a fraction of the cost. These homeschooling families and private schools are threatening the spend, spend, and spend more practices of public schools so Schimek and her buddies need to get rid of them. "
We (the state) have an obligation to provide an education to all our citizens. If parents choose an alternative to public school fine, but we (the state) need to make sure they are getting that education. In my opinion any responsible homeschool parent would have no problem meeting the requirements of this bill and should support it. After all - they say they are providing a better education, all the bill asks is that they prove it. "
ruled with the "iron fist" think they are so perfect???
My public school life was pure hell. I couldn't even get
into college in Nebraska. Thankfully moving out and
getting what I should have gotten in Nebr. I finally got
on the road to a college education. I have seen many
many home schooled children out rank public schooled
children. This is a really good example why these children
grow up and those that don't leave the state, are as rude
and know-it-alls' as you'll ever find across the U.S.
Look what Nebr. has in their government, its my way or
the highway. What an example!!! "
When I read terms used like: turmoil, tore the state apart, simmered on the back burner, and boil over this seems like a 'grudge' bill to me. Why would Sen. Schimek
drag what happened 25 years ago into the present? I would think that Sen. Schimek,in her last year, and the State of Nebraska have more pressing issues to address then vague accusations against home-schoolers.
We have home-schooled our children for the past eight years. No where in this article dose it state that a home-schooling parent must file a curriculum out-line and hours per day of schooling with the Nebraska Department Education yearly.
It also states in the article that "the parent of the student would have to reimburse the Department for the test". Why should I pay for a test that is free to public school children? I pay taxes too.
If Sen. Schimek plans on her bill being patterned after what Iowa does will this include the funding that the State of Iowa through the Department of Education gives back to each home-schooled family?
Has Sen. Schimek ever seen a home-schooling setting? I would guess not if she needed to ask another Senator for names of families who home-school.
Let's make sure we have all our "facts" straight before we attack an educational freedom granted to us over 25 years ago in Nebraska.
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No Child Left Behind does hold teachers and public schools accountable for children who do not show academic growth. Why should homeschooled students be treated any different? If you are teaching your child the way you say you are there should be no problem. The reality is that a large portion of homeschooled children are not given an adequate education. They learn only what their parents deem important, and often only to the highest education level of their parents. As a teacher I have seen numerous times where a homeschooled child entered public school far behind the other children in their grade. Educators are to be held accountable, and if these parents feel they can educate their child better than a certified teacher then they should be treated the same. "
These students are not learning anything but how to memorize the correct answer to the standard. I am sorry high school learning is a joke anymore. There is very little out of class homework. Heven forbid if they have to take it home to do it for the next day. The teachers have given up on that because if they do assign homework nobody does it. So how would that look if all the students failed. You know that would not happen.
I have really considered home schooling my own children. "
Americans are loosing more and more of the freedoms that were once given.
This bill isn't about testing, it is about CONTROL. Once the Government is given CONTROL, it has the authority to start controlling WHAT is taught. Do not be fooled into thinking that this bill for the betterment of the children, it is all about CONTROL. "
This same principle should extend naturally to the family's right to direct the education of the child. The state should need probable cause to enter a home for an inspection or to summon a child for testing. Registering a homeschool is not probable cause simply because someone knows someone who isn't responsible. Or are we going to condemn the entire institution of public education because I could tell you stories of what goes on in classrooms? "
something to do! CONTROL, you bet, that is what Lincoln
and Nebraska are all about, CONTROL!!!! Having lived in
other state, I now feel like I've moved to a Socialist
country!!!! And its not pleasant!!!! "
As a teacher, I have had home schooled students enter my elementary classroom. Some have been remarkable (dedicated parents) and others have been so far behind (not-so-dedicated parents). Good and bad and in-between - just like the other kids (and their parents).
Just say no (to expanded testing)! (and over-use of parenthetical writing) "
If you play an active role in your child's education it makes a difference. If your doing the teaching and challenging them to their fullest potential or if your an extension of the classroom during home work or various activities. As far as regulations of home school, maybe a lesson should be learned from no child left behind and give a great deal of thought before creating a monster. And remember sometimes less is more. "
How many public school teachers are really happy with all of the regulations that you have to follow? Do you really feel like you are able to teach what you would like to or is a great deal of your time spent "teaching to a test"? Is that really what you want to be doing, and are your students really "learning"?
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Second, there is NO national evidence home-schoolers on average do better (or worse) than public schoolers, because most home-school supporters refuse to endorse such standardized testing (witness the comments here to simply testing the home-schoolers, not tampering with the schooling itself). Last, AZ mandated standardized testing between public and charter schools when they allowed charter schools a decade ago. Last year, they determined charter schools, on average, do WORSE than public schools! Milwaukee, forced to allow vouchers a decade or so ago, required kids who use vouchers to attend parochial schools take the same tests as public school kids. Ten yrs of comparison later, there is no discernable difference in the quality of education between public and parochial school kids in Milwaukee. There appear to be no other true apples-to-apples comparisons of public to private/charter/homeschool educated kids, so how do we know they do better (except the propaganda of the supporters)? Lets find out! "
Homeschoolers are not afraid of testing, they are opposed to annual government-mandated evaluations tied to extreme penalties for individual children who perform poorly on even one exam.
How many teachers in the public schools would support such measures for their students? "
There has been several postings concerned with holding Homeschoolers accountable... but to who? and why?
Do Homeschoolers place a burden on the State? Do Homeschoolers ask for anything from the State, except to be left alone?
This bill is not about education -- there are plenty of issues within the Governmental Schools that need attention first. Government Teachers aren't even allowed to give zeros to students who don't do the work assigned, Government Teachers aren't allowed to hold students back to make sure that the student really understands the material.
This bill is about taking the Rights and Responsibilities away from Parents. One more brick removed from the foundation of freedom this country was created upon. "
To "Public School Teacher" below, hate to break it to you but parents are the first and primary educators of their children and in most cases we do an excellent job, in fact our children often out-test public school kids. According to your line of thinking, maybe we need to be certified before we have children...just think of the damage we can do before they hit preschool! Your certification does not make you a better teacher of OUR children. Your comments illustrate the underlying error in the thinking behind the education associations and some educators out there, you are not replacing us, you are not more qualified than us...you are there to assist us in the education of our children...when we choose to utilize your services. Don't forget they are OUR children, not the states. "
The reasons this bill is bad include:
-- The cost of the testing is borne by the families. These families already pay property taxes that go to support public schools their children don't attend. If the state insists on testing, pay for the testing from the property taxes these folks already pay.
-- It's a burden and intrusion on the home-schooling families.
-- It's not justified by data that suggest that home-schoolers are better educated (to the extent they perform better on standardized tests) than their public school counterparts.
The public school teachers who have posted comments here in support of this bill are basing their support on anecdotal evidence of questionable validity. Why not rely on testing scores that actually exist that show homeschooled children outperforming their public school counterparts? I've never met parents more dedicated to their children's education than those who homeschool. "
for election??????? I would bet nearly ALL of them would
FLUNK!! I can point out alot that SHOULD NOT be
voting and making laws for the peoples' lives!!!!!!! "
In closing, I believe that it is important to have an open mind when deciding about testing. As others have said, some children do not test well. Some children mature at different levels. Unless you are willing to take all factors into account, this will not work.
Please make sure it is fair and meaningful testing if the law passes. And make sure that you are testing public school students from all levels at the same time with the same tests. I don't think they will do any better...
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I am in no way qualified to teach a child, even though I excelled in school, graduated college with honors, and I'm a successful business person in Lincoln. I would never want to teach my children because it almost guarantees that they will not be smarter then I am. The only way they will become smarter is by learning on their own...which neither home schooling or public schooling have much to do with, it would be up to the child's passion for a subject.
Public schools have their problems, but they have advantages too. For children, AND PARENTS, who care about education, public schools are great. Most schools have very educated teachers, a few of mine were professors at UNL as well, who love teaching children. A child has many teachers to bounce ideas off of, instead of just one person who has a very narrow view on things. We also can't ignore the social growth that happens at a public school. When I was in high school and we started to see some home-schooled kids enroll for various reasons, their social skills were well below what was considered normal. They were either extremely shy because they had never been around so many kids, or they were just extremely immature for their age.
I'm not sure why parents who want to be so involved with their students learning are not OK with their student going to a public school. I would have my student go to a public school and then come home and be involved in what they learned that day. I'd help them with their homework. I'd probably even learn a thing or two from them.
Why are most home-school parents religious? I'm Christian but I have no desire to home school my student. Sure, there are things my child will learn that disagree with the Bible, but that's why as a parent I will be involved with my child's learning and I will tell them that this is what the Bible says, this is what some scientist says. Here is the reasoning behind both, now decide which one sounds right to you. It seems like a lot of these home school parents are just afraid of their children having thoughts of their own. Thinking outside the box, questioning the Bible (which the Bible even says you should question the Bible...you'll find out the Bible is pretty much dead on), and studying theories on their own seems like a fear that home school parents have. I'm not sure why. Anyone have any answers? "
Right now the parents of homeschoolers pay taxes to the state just like everyone else, and I'm guessing a portion of that money goes into the state's public education budget. So these parents are already paying money for a service which they are not using. If the state wants parents to be held accountable, that's fine, but I don't think the parents should have to pay the bill.
I also disagree with the idea that students who fail the tests would be removed from home-schooling and placed in an accredited school. If a students fails, it seems that a more appropriate response would be for a state official to then go into the home and investigate WHY that student failed. If the parents are found to be neglecting their children educationally, then the children should be placed in an accredited school. If they failed for another reason, such as a learning disability, test anxiety, etc... then let them stay in home school.
It seems to me the state would be opening themselves up to several lawsuits if they were to force students into public schools based on a test performances that can be influenced by a variety of factors unrelated to the parents' teaching quality. "
The bill does not address the issue of what happens to a public student who fails the standard tests.
The bill does not address why children that are going into the public system are not tested BEFORE they enter school -- which is something required for those desiring to use an alternative.
This bill does not cover why the tax-paying parents are required to pay for these tests.
This bill does not address the public-school bias of those chosen to oversee the system.
This bill does not address by what criteria the Commissioner is going to use to "grant" permission to those wishing to Homeschool. It would be completely feasible for the Commissioner to deny EVERYONE the right to Homeschool, just by what is written in this bill.
This bill does not stipulate differences in evaluation for children with special academic needs.
This bill makes it possible for the Department of Education to start dictating what is taught and how.
There is plenty wrong with this bill -- well beyond simple testing. "
Ask me. I can give you the name of a pre-teen who is supposed to be home-schooled but he and his mother are refusing to follow through with lessons. He watches TV and plays video games all day. This preteen has no interest in learning, in going to college, or even getting a job in a couple years. Very sad. Such a waste of a potentially productive person just out of pure laziness on the part of the "teacher" and this kid. "
I can also personally name some really crappy public schools here in Nebraska.
Why don't we improve our public schools academically and make them more attractive to home schoolers? Why can't we offer home schoolers some open campus type classes? I know chemistry is very difficult and expensive for home schoolers. We just give them one choice, take public school or leave it. They are tax payers too, lets find what works best to educate our kids.
Many of our parents choose to home school because they find their moral teachings are contradicted in public schools, what can we do to fix that? "
See, school is not the only place where socialization takes place. There are home-schooled kids on my kids' baseball and swimming teams. My kids have been involved in drama programs with many home-schooled kids. And my kids have been involved in instrumental music activities with loads of home-schooled kids.
One significant difference I see between the home-schooled kids I've come into contact with and the typical public school kids that I've seen swarm the convenience stores after school is that the home-schooled children are well-behaved and have good manners. I certainly wouldn't describe that as being socially inept. "
It seems to me that no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how much control the state/government has over our children's education; children will be shaped by the influence of their parents and by the lessons/ values they are taught at home.
How about a bill requiring parenting classes that parents have to pass before giving birth or adopting?? "
*WHY are/were parents pulling their kids out of public school and opting for either private or home education in the first place?
*Anybody mention that Senator Schimek's husband Herb is a lobbyist for the state teacher's union (NSEA)? How does this PREJUDICE her against anything other than state-sponsored schools?
*This is MORE than about simple testing. It goes MUCH DEEPER than that. MUCH DEEPER.
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More laws (especially badly written ones) are not needed.
Also, if the Nebraska DoE can't even come to grips on what standardized tests they should use for the Government schools ( to meet U.S. regulations on No Child Left Behind), then they should leave exempt schools alone. "
And as far as being socially inept, I know a lot of home schoolers and they get interaction with each other and more adult interaction than public or private school children. "
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As for the people that claim home schooled children are just sitting in front of the tv, have you thought about the fact that many, many people use the public school system as a free babysitter so mom can get back into the workforce? Why would my wife and I have made the financial sacrifices we did if we weren't serious about educating our children? It just wouldn't make sense.
Last but not least, my daughter just started college and is doing very well. She has surprised her instructors several times with her maturity and her dedication to her work. There was some trepidation on her part on entering a classroom environment for the first time, but after the first week she settled in and is very much enjoying the experience. I have no doubt my son will enjoy the same success in a few years when he enters college.
Diane, let it go. We don't need it, we don't want it, and we won't sit idly by and have it shoved down our throats. If any of you home schoolers out there aren't yet members of the hslda (home school legal defense association) you need to join. They will be part of the fight against this nonsense.
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*A 20 year old senior. He was a very smart student, but two years behind in school since his mother had frequently pulled him and his brother out of school to homeschool them, then taught them nothing. His brother was an 18 year old sophomore. Both did not want a GED because of the desire to attend selective colleges.
*A family with seven children who pulled six out to homeschool them. Both parents worked full time as did the 16 year old boy and the rest of the kids were home alone all day with a 13 year old girl in charge. The oldest child, an 18 year old senior still in school, attempted to teach the younger ones in his spare time.
*Two boys, a sophomore and senior, who came in after being homeschooled their entire lives. Neither could write a complete sentence. Their mother's answer to our concerns about that? "They always got A's in English with me."
*A 14 year old freshman boy who had been homeschooled all his life did not know how to hold a pencil correctly and could not print legibly or spell words larger than one syllable.
*A 16 year old junior girl pulled out of school in the middle of the year to homeschool. She did not do any curriculum; she spent her days working as her mother's receptionist for her real estate office (unpaid) or babysitting her younger half-siblings. The mother and step-father arranged a marriage for her when she was 18. I kid you not. A white middle class Christian family in Omaha nine years ago arranged their daughter's marriage through their small Fundamentalist church. "
So, what are they afraid of many of you ask? Well, for one thing, it's the cost. We have no idea how much this testing is going to cost but the bill passes that cost on to the parents even though these parents have undoubtedly paid property taxes that go to public schools they don't use. The thing of it is that it's an unnecessary imposition on the vast majority of homeschooling families who are doing well. This bill is like using a club to kill a gnat.
If the NSEA thinks it's so important basically for the public schools to test these homeschooled children -- if it's the government's responsibility to assure adequate progress -- then it seems to me that it's the government's responsibility to pay for it. The government ought not to be telling people to take a test the vast majority of them don't need and then tell them they have to pay for it. Especially when they've already paid taxes that go to education. That's just not right.
I don't know the average cost of educating a public school child for a year but let's assume it's in the order of $5,000-10,000 per year. If that's the case, then the 6,000 homeschooled kids in Nebraska are saving taxpayers $30-60 million per year in education costs. The least the government can do is foot the bill for this testing if it's so important. If the government is unwilling to pay the bill, then it tells me they don't really think it's all that necessary to do this testing. "
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Please stop implying that I am an idiot by questioning my ability to teach my own children! “Teacher training” doesn’t automatically translate that a student is actually learning! Especially if that “education” is simply no more than spewing a bunch of facts and “teaching” to a test. A real education will instill the love of learning in a child, and is constantly going on whether the child is sitting at a desk studying grammar and math, or going on a hike, or going to tour the East Campus Dairy Store. It also involves character development and being morally sound.
And let’s get this view of “socialization” right. To socialize is the act of being with other people for enjoyment. “Socialization” is being able to participate actively in a social group. Home educators do in fact leave the house and interact with other people in this community, and I can assure you my children have a good handle on both concepts.
This bill is more than just about testing. It is much more than that! Do you think we home school just to annoy you? This is a decision that is extremely personal, and one that we do not take lightly. Please respect our decision to do what we feel is best for our children with the least amount of government interference.
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And one more thing about home-schooling that the public school teachers posting on here haven't thought about. I had a niece who was being cyber-bullied so badly about her weight that my sister-in-law had to pull her out of public school and home-school her from her sophomore year on. Funny how you never hear about cyber-bullying (or any kind of bullying, really) among home-schoolers. "
To answer the question about whether Home Educators receive tax money-- the answer is NO. Home educators receive no federal or state funds and receive no tax exemptions. "
So, all of you posters who cited anecdotal examples of 18 year-old home-schooled kids who are behind when they enter public school need to understand this bill won't change that. Lazy home-schooling parents -- assuming for the sake of argument that they exist -- will still be permitted to fail to educate their 17 and 18 year-old children under this bill.
The tests also won't evaluate the socialization skills of home-schooled kids. So anyone worried about whether home-schooled kids are socially inept will have to continue to worry even if this bill is passed. Not that they should worry because I don't think those fears are well-founded. And, frankly, I'm not even sure why some posters even brought that up because it's not relevant to this bill. The bill doesn't address social eptness at all.
What bringing up the alleged social ineptness of homeschoolers does is reveal some prejudice of the posters who raised the concerns. And we can see that overt prejudice in a number of the posts on this story. For example, WCG tells us that "religious nuts are firmly behind the home schooling movement." JPF asserts that, "only half of these kids know anything more than their favorite bible quotes."
It's clear that there's some real hatred and intolerance towards religious people and it certainly makes one wonder what has motivated the legislature to consider this bill at this time. "
I realize that not all homeschool families are like this, but I do not believe that all should be punished because a few do not educate their children properly. If these drastic measures are instituted, many children might not even get a good education. Some children are homeschooled because they do NOT learn well in noisy group settings, and learn far more in the quiet of home. Some children, especially on western Nebraska, live too far away from a traditional school to actually attend without a three or four-hour commute. Others are incredibly smart and feel stifled by a public school environment. Others, like myself, are discriminated against because of gender and social status and left to fall into the cracks, not actually taught anything and made to somehow find their own way through school or homeschool.
I think that before such a bill is passed or even introduced, people need to try to understand what homeschooling really is, before our freedom is taken away. "
Please go to www.nheri.org, which is the National Home Education Research Institute. Here is the link for Facts on Homeschooling: http://www.nheri.org/content/view/174/62/
The information will rebut many of the uninformed statements (read "opinions") in the comments on this article.
Additionally, as a matter of fiscal conservatism please read this quote by the researcher: "Each home-educated student saves taxpayers an average of at least $7,100 every year."
- Brian D. Ray, Ph.D.
Let's look at what is really going on here: Follow the money.
Besides, if the bill was patterned after Iowa's law, there would have been additional options in it, with input from homeschool associations, etc.
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I'm so sickened by all of the comments about "all homeschool kids" being socially stunted. Or "all public school kids" being behind academically.
Is this really what we've come to? A bunch of freaky grown-ups, teaching our kids to generalize entire populations based upon stereotypes?
It's amazing how even here in "the land of the free", there is always going to be a group of people who feel entitled to judge and insult another.
As a parent to both public schooled kids and homeschooled kids (simultaneously), it makes me really sad for ALL of our kids, to know that there are so many bitter, angry adults spreading hate and stacking the deck against them before they're even off the playground. "
The treatment of the kids by the office staff, one staff member in particular, and the horrible things the my kids were learning from the other students. My 7 year old daughter came home and asked what oral sex is. She said a boy in her 1st grade class was talking about it.
We pulled our oldest son out of the high school here because of the number of offers of sex from girls he was getting. Not to mention the behavior he was learning from other boys. The high school here actually has a daycare for the children of students. Public school is no longer a safe place for kids and more and more parents are realizing this. Our kids will get a good education at home. They are learning all of the typical courses at their own pace and will be taught exactly what they will need to know to exist in the real world. Another great thing about homeschooling, we don't have to go over the whole lesson again in spanish, like public school. "