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Letters, 12/6: Idea for new State Fair

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Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 - 12:11:19 am CST

I’m 53, originally from Lincoln, and I’ve been to every State Fair since I can remember. Somebody needs to tell the State Fair board the emperor has no clothes because the State Fair is gone as we used to know it.

Most people my generation think it began declining 25 years ago. What goes on in Lincoln now is just a glorified county fair with a slightly bigger midway and some lesser showbiz acts and monster machines.

If you really want to have a state fair, combine Husker Harvest Days (near Grand Island the second week of September) with the county fairs of Adams, Hall or Buffalo counties book-ending one week on the weekends. Throw in some nearby concerts like Comstock has with some monster trucks or tractors and a rodeo in central Nebraska. There’s even car racing nearby in Doniphan and Hastings, and you’ll have everything the old fair used to have.

The University of Nebraska-Lincoln needs the State Fair site for the future, but there’s no reason to move the horse racing, since that was tried in Omaha, and the site isn’t as good as Ak-Sar-Ben used to be.

George Howard, Hastings

City employees give back

Last week, city employees were criticized for their lack of participation in the United Way campaign.  While I cannot speak for employees outside of the fire department, I will say that I am very proud of what fire employees give back to our community.

According to our United Way representative, 52 percent of our employees contributed to United Way for an increase of 3 percent this year.  While we are pleased to have more than half of our employees participate, fire employees are involved in many other charities, donating money, raising money and volunteering time.

For 2007, firefighters raised more than $14,000 for the Muscular Dystrophy Association (MDA).  This year, firefighters contributed more than $25,700 in cash and an unknown amount of in-kind donations to various charities in this community, including Big Brothers and Big Sisters, the Food Bank, Bubba’s Closet, sponsoring a midget football team, giving out Christmas food baskets to needy families, giving gifts to children who are in the hospital during Halloween, donating money and volunteer time for Boo at the Zoo, and spending countless hours volunteering their off-duty time for many different charities.

One such charity is the Salvation Army.  Every year, off-duty firefighters spend two days ringing bells to raise money for the Salvation Army.  Every year, we receive the trophy for the most money collected by any group. This year we will donate 271 hours ringing bells.

We typically do not believe that it is necessary to publicize our charitable activities.  We don’t do it for publicity; we do it because we care about Lincoln.  I believe that is true of other city employees.

Focusing in on one charity does not tell the whole story. Lincoln’s employees do give back. We should never criticize anyone for how much they give or what charity they give to; we should just be glad  people care enough to give.

Dave Engler, president, Lincoln Firefighters

Many served in Hastings

As an employee of the Hastings Regional Center, I am disturbed by how the facility has been portrayed lately in the media. I am concerned that the public is being led to believe that the entire facility is up and running and serving only one client.

That is simply not true. There is one program at HRC in which the client population has dropped to one. However, there are other programs running at HRC.

There is a chemical dependency program that consistently serves 40 youths, which is the maximum capacity for the facility as the regulations are written at the present time.

These youth range in age from 13 to 18 and come to HRC from Kearney Youth Rehabilitation and Treatment Center. Each is struggling with drug and/or alcohol addiction issues as well as having criminal records. They are under 24-hour supervision, undergoing treatment for their addictions, as well as having the opportunity to continue their education. The staff assigned to work with clients from both programs is shared between the two programs.

As a taxpayer, a citizen of the community and an employee of HRC, I feel it is important that accurate information be shared.

Kris Sorensen, Hastings teacher, Nebraska Youth Academy, Hastings Regional Center

Don’t lower drinking age

In response to Stacie Beins’ letter  (“Let’s lower drinking age,” LJS, Nov. 30), I would like to offer a contrasting view from an 18-year-old.

As a freshman at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, I have learned two things about drinking in my first semester of college: First, underage drinking is an issue; second, lowering the drinking age will not solve the problem.

The right to consume alcohol is not equivalent to the rights Beins attempted to compare it to — the right to vote, to join the armed forces, and to marry, among others.

Beins believes a lowered drinking age will result in less binge drinking, which is a frequent occurrence in Nebraska. Perhaps, if Beins is serious about her proposition, she should consider that lawmakers would be much more willing to lower the drinking age if binge drinking were curtailed. The latter should be the cause, the former the effect — not the other way around.

I wonder why drinking would be less commonplace if the drinking age were lowered. Surely, many (if not the majority) of today’s teens drink often enough that they have “become used to it.”

It is insulting to my intelligence to be told that lowering the drinking age would lower the frequency of underage drinking. Of course it would! But why lower it to the age of 18? Why not eliminate the established drinking age altogether? This would, in turn, eliminate illegal underage drinking.

Those are just some of the reasons why I believe the drinking age should not be lowered.

James D. Dawson, Lincoln


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Fair wrote on December 6, 2007 4:31 am:
" Sure, let's move the fair to Grand Island or Kearney. While we're moving it, let's move the football stadium and team there too. Both have become a joke of late. Moving the football stadium to the center of the state makes sense because more people from the western part will be able to attend. "

Jared wrote on December 6, 2007 6:43 am:
" As a 31 year old who has gone through the whole process, I have to say this: the 21 years of age drinking age experiment is pretty much a failure. It's time to try something different. Besides, an 18 year old can both vote and serve his country. We really ought to bring all three of these things into congruency. "

Do YOu wrote on December 6, 2007 7:30 am:
" really think lowering the drinking age would lower the frequency of underage drinking? Not on your life. All it will do, and as it did in the past, was increase the number of underage drinkers. 18 yr olds will buy for their 17, 16, 15 and younger friends. Where a 21 yr old would not. I wish people would forget about this notion. It has been tried in the past and was a total failure. Let's learn from the past and not repeat it. "

Macy wrote on December 6, 2007 7:41 am:
" James, you are wise beyond your years - your letter was concise and based on rational thought. I happen to agree with you - when I was your age, the drinking age was 18 and although 18-yr olds seemed more responsible back then, it didn't stop underage drinking! You have a bright future ahead of you! "

CW wrote on December 6, 2007 8:21 am:
" I agree that we do not need to lower the drinking age......in fact we should raise it to 25. This is the same number that the insurance industry uses to decrease your auto insurance when you are a good driver. Besides the human brain has not fully developed until 25. Just think of all of those brain cells that have been wasted. "

Edgar Pearlstein wrote on December 6, 2007 9:02 am:
" Ms. Eschliman seems to think that the only way to contribute to charity is through the United Way. She should get in the habit of thinking more deeply than the surface. As Mr. Engler points out, there are many other ways to contribute. As for myself, I don't give to the United Way, but I do give to many charities individually (some of which are in the U. W.). This is less convenient than writing one large check, but my money is distributed according to my own choices. "

DownHome wrote on December 6, 2007 10:41 am:
" For years I bought into the good that United Way can and does provide in a community. I led drives at my work place, I served as a loaned Executive, I served on the Advisory Board and finally as Chairman of a drive in a community where I resided. To this day, I believe United Way makes a difference...however, I no longer support the organization directly for three reasons: 1. I saw way too many organizations get heavy handed in their approach to giving-making a Fair Share donation almost a requirement of leadership, 2. It became more about 'hitting the goal' than it did about the actually needs of the community and 3. It began to appear to me that it was becoming an institutionalized 'feel good' approach to charity. If I gave to United Way then I was 'covered' I didn't have to think about, be concerned with or dig deep in my pocket for other worthwhile needs in the community. So I still believe United Way serves an important role....albeit after the fund raising is complete but I believe that putting the donor closer to the need provides a much better way to 'see' what the needs are and to answer them. "

Realist wrote on December 6, 2007 10:49 am:
" 18 year olds were NOT more responsible back when you were a kid Macy. Every generation believes that garbage, and it's just not true. "

Ignore age completely! wrote on December 6, 2007 10:58 am:
" Binge drinking is in no way related to the legal age of consent for drinking - the concept that age in any way affects this is ridiculous. Binge drinking is the artifact of societal/cultural issues, not a certain age. We could drop the drinking age altogether or raise it to 30...rates of binge drinking would remain constant unless we addressed the corresponding social pressures which cause an environment where binge drinking is encouraged. "

Leave drinking wrote on December 6, 2007 1:32 pm:
" age where it is, raise military service age to 21. Then, only let Veterans vote. "

Marky Mark wrote on December 6, 2007 3:35 pm:
" Binge drinking is directly related to a drinking age...the countries that have no age stipulation for drinking have virtually no binge drinking. "

Really wrote on December 6, 2007 3:42 pm:
" It doesn't much matter what the legal age is, and I suspect Stacie knows that. As a teen, I never felt there were any real impediments to my obtaining alcohol whenever I wanted it. I never once got carded in a bar until I actually WAS old enough to drink, and that's when legal age was 19. Go figure. "

New Ideas wrote on December 6, 2007 4:06 pm:
" Everyone who has posted on lowering the drinking age has some valid points. The one thing I think we all can agree on is the current system is not working. I also think anyone reading this should just be willing to look at this with an open mind. This is a problem in our society that needs a new approach. I encourage everyone to visit www.chooseresponsibility.org to see some of the new ideas that are being debated. I also challenge everyone to find out the facts of our current system. "

Ryan wrote on December 6, 2007 5:28 pm:
" It's so strange *ahem cough* that when something is taboo people seem to overindulge when they indulge... Maybe if it wasn't such a demonized behavior and we actually TAUGHT people how to drink responsibly it wouldn't be an issue. Maybe? SHOCK! "

whatever wrote on December 6, 2007 5:48 pm:
" Mr. Dawson, as an intelligent young college student could you please answer a few questions. Why is teenage drinking commonplace in Europe? Why is it not illegal in many European countries? Why do European students perform better than United States students by every measure? Why is healthcare universally provided? Why are longevity statistics better in many parts of Europe? Why is the standard of living better in many places in Europe than here in the United States? Is there a connection between these myriad facts? An answer more substantive than "Europe's culture is different" would be welcome. Legal drinking at the age of 18 simply isn't "the problem" it is presented to be. Irresponsible drinking is generally a symptom of "other problems". "

truth wrote on December 6, 2007 11:21 pm:
" i hope everyone knows that the states raised the drinking age in the 80's because they were not going to recieve funding from the federal government for highways and roads, so there was no real reason from the change. and yes it was 18 for a long time before that, except for prohibition, and did that work? and by the way, of COURSE drinking is not on the same level as voting and going to war, they are vastly MORE IMPORTANT and we can do both of those AT A YOUNGER AGE THAN WE CAN DRINK AT!!!!! "

SB-proof??? wrote on December 7, 2007 10:25 am:
" If you are going to give 18 year old the rights and privileges to act in society as a responsible adult, then you should give them all of the rights and responsibilities, instead of treating them like pre-adolescent adults with their rights picked and chosen. At 18 in this country an adult is granted the responsibility and rights to register for the draft, pay taxes, have a loan, marry, smoke, be tried in court, take legal drugs, have an abortion, drive a car, procreate, and overall act in a civilized society. Yet we do not give them the responsibility to join the rest of the ‘adults’ with an adult beverage? "

Thank you Dave Engler wrote on December 7, 2007 9:09 pm:
" Thank you Dave for bringing to light some of the good that the off duty employees of LFR do for Lincoln. It is a sad day when our own public officials make snide and offensive comments about holiday charity. Although it is sad that it had to be done, thank you Dave! "

another mother wrote on December 12, 2007 11:03 am:
" I dont know if anyone else has been to any county fairs lately, but i have moved around this state a lot over the past ten years. I have been to the State Fair and its far better than any other fair and is reasonably priced and far more to do there. I dont think it should be moved anywhere, and now that I am back in Lincoln, I cant wait to go this summer!! "