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By BOB REEVES / Lincoln Journal Star

Saturday, Oct 13, 2007 - 12:40:41 am CDT

Everybody loves the story of the emperor’s new clothes. It’s about a small boy who has the courage to point out that the monarch in all his supposed finery is actually naked.

That may help explain the popularity of several recent books by atheists, attacking religion not only as unfounded but, in many cases, downright dangerous to the future of human society.

The biggest best-sellers are:  “The God Delusion” by Richard Dawkins, “The End of Faith” by Sam Harris and, most recently, “God is Not Great,” by Christopher Hitchens, which this week was nominated for a National Book Award.

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British essayist Christopher Hitchens speaks during a debate in New York in this Sept. 14, 2005 photo. (AP file)

Dawkins, a professor at Oxford University in England, spells out every possible proof of God’s existence and attempts to show none of them meet the tests of rational or empirical evidence. “If this book works as I intend, religious readers who open it will be atheists when they put it down,” he writes.

Harris, who has studied both philosophy and neuroscience, focuses on the evils that have been committed in the name of religion, especially the intolerance and violence that  spring from people’s belief that their religion is right and all others are wrong.  “If religious war is ever to become unthinkable for us …,” he writes, “it will be a matter of our having dispensed with the dogma of faith.”

Hitchens, a journalist and political commentator, is the most scathing in his assessment of religion, calling it “an enemy of science and inquiry … subsisting largely on lies and fears” and “the accomplice of ignorance and guilt as well as of slavery, genocide, racism and tyranny.”  The book’s subtitle is “How Religion Poisons Everything.”

Why have these books appeared in the first years of the 21st century, and why have they been so popular?

It doesn’t necessarily mean a widespread rise of atheism, according to several local atheists interviewed by the Journal Star.

Joseth Moore, a non-believer and member of Lincoln Secular Humanists, said he believes most Americans cling to religious faith — as evidenced by a recent Newsweek poll showing that 90 percent of Americans profess a belief in God. But many people distrust dogmatism and fundamentalism and are looking for alternatives, Moore said.  He also has a theory that “many religious believers buy these books to see what the enemies (of religion) are thinking.”

Vladimir Pozek is an immigrant from Bosnia who grew up in an atheist family and lived in socialist Yugoslavia, where religion was tolerated but not encouraged. He said he’s been amazed at the influence religion has on American society, especially on politics.  The recent rash of atheist books is more a reaction to the excesses of the Religious Right than a sign of a tilt away from  God in American society, he said.

Kate High doesn’t believe in God, but she often feels uncomfortable because of social pressures to be religious.  She feels the books by atheists are helping start a conversation about the negative aspects of religion and causing people to question some of their beliefs, particularly those that make them intolerant of others. “People need to turn off their TV and start practicing a little independent thinking,” she said.

Charles Stephen, a retired Unitarian minister who considers himself an “almost atheist,” said he was surprised and pleased by the recent popularity of books critical of religion.  “In a world surfeited with religion and religious terminology, much of which is overly sentimental and devoid of thought, it is refreshing to see serious attempts to question religion’s primacy,” he wrote in an e-mail response to a reporter’s questions.

Stephen reviewed Hitchens’ book in the Journal Star in August.  

“I saw him as an angry observer of the religious world,” reacting to the ignorance, intolerance and brutality spawned by religion, Stephen said. “It is very easy to find reasons to be angry, for religion has a sordid history: blasphemy trials, crusades, inquisitions, burning of heretics, denial of scientific truths — and not just in ancient times but in the present. That religion has also produced women and men who made the world better does not fully compensate for its long history of violence.”

Rita Lester, associate professor of religion at Nebraska Wesleyan University, led a discussion of Harris’ “The End of Faith” in a class on social justice this fall.  Harris raises legitimate questions about Christianity, Islam and other religions that  need to be confronted, both by believers and non-believers, she said.

Harris doesn’t take the politically correct position that all religions are equal, but points up elements in Islam that he believes lead to violence,  as evidenced by the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and also suicide bombers in Iraq. He also points out the inevitable conflict between the pursuit of scientific knowledge and a literal interpretation of the Bible.

Reading the book didn’t lead any students to reject their faith, but it did make them think more clearly and critically about what they believe and why, Lester said. 

She surmises that most of the people who buy Harris’ books and those by other popular atheists aren’t atheists themselves, but “liberal-minded Christians” who are stimulated by a critical look at religion and its role in the world.

But she also believes the number of non-believers may be increasing. The American Religious Identification Survey of 2001, a scientific poll of 50,000 U.S. adults, reported that 14 percent identified themselves as not following any organized religion, compared with  8 percent in 1990. 

The plethora of books by atheists represents a backlash against the “in-your-face religiosity” of vocal evangelicals and their influence on American society and politics, she said. “People are drawn to an author like Harris, who is brave enough to point out that it doesn’t have to be this way.”

Interest in atheism is increasing, said Miguel Picanco, a member of Lincoln Secular Humanists.  He was on a panel discussion entitled “Ask an Atheist” last spring at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.  The small room had a standing-room-only crowd of about 150.  When asked how many were atheist or agnostic, about 40 percent in the crowd raised their hands.

Picanco also led a recent discussion at the Unitarian Church of the PBS documentary film “A Brief History of Disbelief,” which traced the history of religious skepticism from ancient to modern times.  Attendance averaged between 25 and 50 for the three one-hour segments, shown over three evenings.  In discussions, many of those attending talked about the intolerance of atheists that they find in Lincoln and elsewhere.

Picanco doesn’t believe in God, but often prefers to identify himself as a secular humanist because it indicates a positive concern for the welfare of people rather than just a negative godlessness. 

Pozek is up front about being an atheist, but sometimes gets a negative reaction. He recalled being confronted by an evangelical Christian who told him that his concern for social justice is hollow and of less value than that of Christians, because he lacks a belief in God.  Both Pozek and the Christian opposed capital punishment, but when Pozek asked him to explain “why is my wish of abolishing the death penalty less worthy than yours, he had no answer.” 

Many religious people exhibit “a self-righteousness and arrogance and a refusal to even consider a different worldview than the one they have dogmatically adopted,” Pozek said.

He also worries about the influence of religion on politics, which he believes could lead to a theocracy, or at least the erosion of the separation of church and state. He quoted the author Sinclair Lewis, who many years ago said, “Fascism will come to America wrapped in a flag and wearing a cross.” That, Pozek said, is what scares him most.

“Generally I don’t wear my ideas on my cuff because they’re too upsetting to other people,” said High, who rejects religion largely because of its intolerance. She grew up in the small town of Albion, where she attended a United Methodist church, but her mother became a Hindu — which made her an oddity in the overwhelmingly Christian community. High said she came to realize that both Christianity and Hinduism could not be true, and eventually rejected both.

Now, as an adult, High said she could accept a “metaphorical or poetic” concept of God, but not a “nice guy in flowing robes in heaven.” She also rejects “the Sears Roebuck God, where you order rain or a new boat,” and expect God to deliver it.

Religion is so pervasive in American society, Pozek said, that even people who don’t believe in God wind up becoming Unitarians because they feel they should be part of a church. He also believes that many politicians present themselves as more religious than they actually are in order to get votes.

But Moore believes the influence of religion in politics may be waning, as shown by the 2006 Democratic victory in Congress and the more recent fall-off of some conservatives who feel they’ve been used by the Republican party.

“Although there are loud voices, political and religious, calling for us to label ourselves a Christian nation, I don’t think we are close to becoming a theocracy,” Stephen said.  The basic principles of religious freedom and secularism on which America was founded will prevail, he said, despite attempts by some conservative religious leaders to undermine them. 

“I think there is little danger in our overthrowing those principles, however sanctimonious the right wing of the Republican Party becomes,” he said.  “Furthermore, I think that if there were a danger in our becoming a theocracy, led by such ultra-conservative religious folks, that danger is fading fast, as its backers have worn out their welcome.”

Reach Bob Reeves at 473-7212 or breeves@journalstar.com.


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WCG wrote on October 13, 2007 7:46 am:
" Excellent article. However, it might give the wrong impression in one way. Perhaps some people reject religion because of its intolerance, but that's not the basic problem. I don't believe in gods or the supernatural because there's absolutely no evidence that they actually exist. Without evidence, 'faith' is just wishful thinking. It's very easy to believe what you want to believe, of course. But doesn't it seem suspicious that your belief depends so much on your birthplace, on your culture? If you'd been born in India, you'd most likely be a fervent Hindu. If you'd been born in ancient Greece, you'd be worshiping Zeus; in ancient Scandinavia, Thor. It's all superstition. None of them are supported by the evidence. In particular, the Christian Bible contradicts itself, contradicts what we've learned about the world in the past 2,000 years, and contradicts reason. But it's easy to ignore that stuff when you really WANT to believe, isn't it? God is just Santa Claus for adults. It's time to put away our childhood imaginary friends and face the future on our feet, as rational human beings. "

whatever wrote on October 13, 2007 7:51 am:
" Show me one religious war that tops the genocide and murder of Nazi Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Oh, and let's not forget Communist China and Imperial Japan. "

Bunch of crap! wrote on October 13, 2007 8:10 am:
" All this is doing is tearing away the normal moral values of yesterday. It is bastardizing everything into a socialist mentality helping destroy all values and norms of society. What is so wrong in believing in a God... "

Edgar Pearlstein wrote on October 13, 2007 8:38 am:
" It should be pointed out that atheism is not really an "ism"--not in the sense of Catholicism, socialism, capitalism, etc. Atheism is merely one non-belief, completely analogous to non-belief in Santa Claus. Being an atheist says nothing about one's other characteristics "

Nick_V wrote on October 13, 2007 9:04 am:
" To quote Doug Stanhope - "Here's something you never hear on the news - 'Today, 40 were killed when an atheist stronghold took heavy shelling from agnostic rebels to the South.'" I'm proud to be a Nebraska atheist! "

DP wrote on October 13, 2007 9:07 am:
" For some people it's difficult to believe when they can't relate it to the modern world. They need scientific proof that God exists otherwise it can't possibly be true. They pick apart the bible and say "this can't be true because ...". I think it's dangerous not to believe in God because I feel when you die you are going to spend eternity in heaven or hell and I don't think it's worth trying to be right and proove everyone wrong and end up living in hell for eternity. Besides I think if you believe in God and try to follow his lead you will live a happier life. In today's world if you believe in God people want to label you a right wing Christian nut job, which is crazy. You can believe in God and be a Republican, Democrat, farmer, business person, etc. All I know is for myself who didn't believe that much in him years ago to a guy who tries to pray more often and go to church, I have a better life. "

stignob wrote on October 13, 2007 9:07 am:
" Sad to think we're just a light switch, with no soul and no conscience. "

Culturedropout wrote on October 13, 2007 9:20 am:
" Generally, we lock up someone who claims that "voices in their head" are telling them what to do. Isn't this essentially what "believers" are saying - that a little voice no one else can hear is telling them what to do? I grew up in western Nebraska in a family that professed to believe in "God", but before I was even a teenager, I saw that their religion was more about avoiding making decisions and thinking for yourself than anything else. It taught irrational hatred of various groups of people, and served as a salve for any guilt the believers might feel for bad things they had done. I decided right then that I was going to take ownership and responsibility for my actions and my life, and that I didn't need any imaginary person in the sky to cover for me. In response to the person who says atheisim is, "tearing away the normal moral values," and "helping destroy all values and norms of society," I say this: "Norms" are established and adjusted _by_ society; when a majority of the people feels that a "norm" is outmoded, it is replaced with something else. That's what a "norm" is. It's not set in stone, and it shouldn't be controlled by the religious folks, even if they scream the loudest. As long as the religious folks continue to use their religion to make them feel superior to those with other beliefs, we'll continue to have war and hatred. Open your eyes and your heart, put down your dusty old rulebook, and join the human race. "

John wrote on October 13, 2007 9:27 am:
" Kudos to the LJS. You actually put an article on the religion page that has nothing to do with fairy tales and mythology. I'm impressed. "

Craig Southwell wrote on October 13, 2007 9:45 am:
" Only a fool would say there is no GOD. "

Jody P. wrote on October 13, 2007 9:49 am:
" If these atheist authors had written those same books in the old days, the authors would have been burned at the stakes. Today the books are best-sellers and the authors are safe from zealots with matches. All in all, sounds like progress. Also, to "whatever", try and name one atheist war. The Soviets were driven by communism, and the Germans by nazism. Not atheism. "

Bear wrote on October 13, 2007 10:07 am:
" There is no religion that will ever identify an individual human being. Only when we allow the religion to do so. That is where the problem lies. You can be a very good person and not be a member of a church, or group of the like. You can also be a not so good person and attend church, or the like, every Sunday. It comes down to the person. The individual human mind is far more powerfull than a belief, or want to belief, in something greater than ourselves. Some want to believe in a higher power and some do not, for whatever their reasons. To each their own. If you are content, happy with your beliefs, there is no reason to sway one way or the other. Just be a good person, it's way more fun. "

You mean wrote on October 13, 2007 10:14 am:
" The Hitler who had "God is with us" on his army's belt buckles, who said "I am and will always be a Catholic" and "I am doing the Lord's work"? That Hitler? Oh and since when did lack of a superstitious irrational belief preclude a conscience? "

Dan wrote on October 13, 2007 10:39 am:
" We are a bunch of animals. "

Whats wrong? wrote on October 13, 2007 10:43 am:
" The same thing that is wrong with believing in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, leprechauns, astrology or a Nebraska BCS appearance this year - it's a waste of time, an indication of a lack of reasoning ability, and a sign of being incapable of accepting reality. "

Jason wrote on October 13, 2007 10:49 am:
" Why is it that you have to believe in GOD to have a soul or to have morals or a conscience?? That kind of thinking is so pious and so naive and misguided. How dare you say that I don't have a conscience or a soul because I do not believe in your god. "

Mike wrote on October 13, 2007 10:56 am:
" I grew up in a strong Catholic family. I realized at an early age that I was gay. I tried to change, but eventually came to terms with the fact that my sexual orientation could not be changed. The message I consistently received from the religious right was that one cannot be gay AND Christian. When I recognized how wrong the religous right was on this issue, it made me question Christianity entirely in a way that I probably would not have otherwise. I began to see that my moral values (ironically, strongly influenced by the teachings os Jesus Christ) were incompatible with modern day Christianity. As a result, I am no longer a Christian. If the religious right keeps doing the same thing they are doing, they will turn more and more people away from God. Real Christians should be outraged that their religion has been hijacked. "

freebird wrote on October 13, 2007 11:39 am:
" The "religious right" and their infusion into the republican party have helped push me further toward atheism; and I am someone who attended a conservative christian school and church for most of my life. I can't stand the arrogant self rightousness that has taken over. What happened to helping the poor and vulnerable? Was that ever really the top priority of any church, or have the political issues that have taken over replaced it? I think organized religion has always been more of a means for social conformity than anything else. Most people are uncomfortable with people or ideas they see as being "different." Jesus, by the way, spent his ministry challenging the religious establishment of the day, and it made people mad then, too. "

whatever wrote on October 13, 2007 12:05 pm:
" The Nazi's systematically destroyed religion where they could and had they had enough time would have done so. Communism by it's very "nature" is atheism, religion was driven almost into exinction by the Soviets, it was an "atheist" state. Communist China, yeah it's still communist is an atheist state and sytematically destroys religion, see Tibet. Umm and what do we have going on in Burma, a ruthless dictatorship at war with peaceful religious people. Nope, the argument that "religion" has driven the deadliest and worst wars in the history of humanity is bogus, PERIOD. It's good to get these kinds of articles I encourage the publishing of them, but it's so intellectually lame. I don't want to live in a theocracy and find the "bible thumping" fundamentalists driving elements of this country to be a generally "unreligious" bunch of folks. But I'll take them over a bunch of atheists any day of the week. "

JD wrote on October 13, 2007 12:07 pm:
" 'Faith is higher than reason. Reason is useless.... unless you believe.' "

Soren wrote on October 13, 2007 1:49 pm:
" "Reason without faith is empty and faith without reason is blind" There is no evidence of anything without faith. Of course mysticism can be explained away within the scientific paradigm, but the scientific paradigm itself relies on several principles for which we have no real evidence (string theory anyone?). I'm a Christian because it makes sense, and through it everything else makes more sense. Plus, it's way more fun than anything Mr. Hitchens disbelieves. To blame religion for the world's problems is a completely backwards way of thinking. Of course religious sects cause problems because they are made up of sinful people and sinful people cause problems. Great article and interesting debate! "

beetX wrote on October 13, 2007 2:14 pm:
" I can't believe someone has already invoked Pascal's wager (belief in god as a insurance policy) as a reason to believe in god and referred to the National Socialists (Nazis) as an atheist regime. These are tired arguments mired in fallacies that are so obvious they should not need to be pointed out. As for the atrocities committed by Stalin et al - Stalin was an atheist but atheism even though it does away with the hateful dogma of religion does not necessarily make someone a good person, atheism is simply a lack of belief in god/s nothing more...Stalin was not a secular humanist. The atrocities committed by "atheist" regimes pales in comparison to the atrocities committed in the name of god - in the Spanish inquisition alone hundreds of millions were killed, not to mention the countless religious wars fought over the centuries. "

Edgar Pearlstein wrote on October 13, 2007 2:39 pm:
" There are several things wrong with DP's idea of believing in God(s) as an insurance policy: (1) You can not will yourself to believe sincerely. All you can do is go through the motions of believing. (2) Which god(s) should one accept? There are many that people have adopted, and believing in the wrong one might be worse than believing in none. Remember that the God of the Bible is explicitly jealous, and maybe some of the other gods are, too. (3) Maybe the god (if there is only one) does not like people always trying to suck up to him (it? her?), and “worshipping” will just piss him off. (4) In the sprit of just-in-case, we should believe in every astrologer, psychic,and fortune teller, etc., in case one of them is legit. And we should take precautions against voodoo curses, avoid bad luck brought on by black cats, knock on wood, and throw salt over the left shoulder. "

Matt wrote on October 13, 2007 3:09 pm:
" I love the rhetoric that comes from the religious side of the argument. "Only a fool would not believe in god" or "this is crap...it only tears away at our moral fiber". Okay, great! Now point out why people are fools for not believing in god and tell us why it tears away at our moral fiber. I know many atheist people and they are all very socially conscious individuals. Your responses literally have no more intellectual impact as saying, "your idea is stupid..therefor I'm right" Please, tell us why they're stupid!! I would also add that the Nazi genocide was very religiously related. Are you aware of the historical basis for the "Aryan nation", albeit ridiculous they believed they were the "destined and superior race" and the reason, a superstitious belief in a superior alien race, was no different than what is seen in religion. Plus, the Nazis targeted groups because of their religious beliefs. The motivations were very closely related to beliefs and/or religion. "

Jeff wrote on October 13, 2007 3:23 pm:
" When I read this, I just feel sadness. It seems so easy to just believe in nothing. If something can't be proven beyond a doubt to me, then it doesn't exist. What a nonsensical approach. Some bad things have been done in the name of religion, but people don't realize where our society would be without Christianity. It is interwined with everything that's good in our society. Christianity perservered through the early years of persecution, and it will survive these times. It's good contributions far outweigh the bad. And it will all come down to to you and your maker in the end. For some of you of course, there is nothing to look forward to. "

NE freethinker wrote on October 13, 2007 3:51 pm:
" I prefer the word non-theist to describe "atheists". It is really the dogma of religion that we dislike not the idea of a possible god. "

Re: Whatever wrote on October 13, 2007 4:03 pm:
" The Nazis if you forgot were doing it in the name of God, Hitler believed that he was very much a Christian. "

LC wrote on October 13, 2007 4:21 pm:
" Truth and faith are polar opposites. The more faith that is required to believe in something, the less substantial that something is. Truth NEVER needs faith to back itself. I agree with Sam Harris when he says that faith is just permission religious people give each other to continue believing when reason fails. If you want to believe in an invisible superbeing that can read your mind, fine. Please don't look at me with disdain if I say, "Prove it and I will join you." Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Religion provides none. "

Interesting wrote on October 13, 2007 4:23 pm:
" It's impossible to "go godless." We all worship something or someone whether that be something tangible like wealth, or intangible such as a philosophy. "

Miguel Picanco wrote on October 13, 2007 4:39 pm:
" Many thanks to Bob and the LJS for addressing the ideas of local nonbelievers. This is article is wonderfully done. For the record though, I do want to clear up and add a couple minor points: Brief History of Disbelief is a BBC documentary. The "Ask an Atheist" event was organized by Center for Inquiry on Campus - UNL. thanks! "

P. Robert wrote on October 13, 2007 4:48 pm:
" Pascal's Wager is a meaningless proposition. You either are a believer or your not. God knows your heart and he knows if your his disciple. A non believer quoting biblical passages and theology is like an American trying to decipher Chinese. You can't do it without the holy spirit. Every true Christian will read this and understand what I am saying, if you don't then you are not a believer. Religion is not the problem......sinful, selfish people trying to interpret God's word for their own benefit has always been the problem. "

Zorc wrote on October 13, 2007 4:51 pm:
" Why do people equate religion with faith, morals, or souls? If people spent less time condemning "nonbelievers" as immoral, hedonistic, passionless nihilists, and tried to understand that you can be spiritual, moral, and happy without a designated religion, maybe the rift between the two would diminish. Of course, this goes for atheists claiming that all religious people are unreasonable morons. You CAN be a rational, intelligent, reasonable person and still believe in god and belong to a religion. "

Cole wrote on October 13, 2007 7:17 pm:
" As Dawkins points out, the problem with any religion is that it teaches children that unquestioning faith is a virtue. There's a saying among Jesuit priests, "Give me a boy until he's seven years old and I'll show you the man." When a young person questions anything regarding his or her faith, it's quickly dismissed as Satan planting seeds of disbelief in the brain. That's the kind of thinking that is the problem. The 9/11 hijackers actually believed in the whole martyr thing with virgins in paradise. And religious schools all over the middle east continue to produce thousands with the same mindset. Christians and Jews can easily fall into the same trap (and have). How hard would it really be for a convincing man to twist the interpretation of the inerrant word of God in such a way to get his followers to commit nearly any action? Not very and it's scary. I actually heard Dr. D. James Kennedy trying convince his congregation that it was a sin not to vote because the Bible says, "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's." Anyone with any intellegence and who has read the story can realize that this verse addresses taxes and coinage. The act of voting has absolutely nothing to do with what Jesus was saying in this account. But some would argue that it does and you can quickly see how easy and dangerous it is to get people to do anything. The evidence is clear - the stories in the Pentatouche could not have happened. Let's move on. There are so many problems we could all solve together if we could just bring ourselves to give up this voodoo. "

hummmm...... wrote on October 13, 2007 8:57 pm:
" why are all atheist so angry? makes a girl go hummmmmm....... "

Duane Tiemann wrote on October 13, 2007 9:29 pm:
" >"I think it's dangerous not to believe in God because I feel ... " A telling confusion between the roles of thinking and feeling. Thinking is s more effective tool for assessing truth claims. The religious comments often seem to invoke "feeling" sorts of arguments. Watch for it. And those that attempt to deal in reason seem to just make a mess. This is more that just a sloppy choice of words. It appears to reflect a genuine difference in approach. "

Rupert wrote on October 13, 2007 9:39 pm:
" People have such a "hollywood" image of religion that they fail to understand the true teachings and actions of real believers. If you a "non thinking" religious person you have completely missed the point of most religions. If you label true followers of a faith as "non thinking" you have also missed the point. "

How can it be so? wrote on October 13, 2007 10:37 pm:
" How is it possible that I do not have a God? I absolutely believe there is a God. Every time I look at a magnificent sunset, or spend time on the beautiful prairie of home, the mountains, the oceans, etc...I am reminded of a loving and merciful God, creator of Heaven and Earth! I do not agree that reading a book by an Atheist author (would not waste my money) is going to change my beliefs. If anything it is going to make me search and grow deeper in my faith! I am continually growing as a better person because I try to live according the Lord. "As for me and my house we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15" "

James wrote on October 13, 2007 11:27 pm:
" If you don't want to believe in God, good luck to you. You may need it. "

Brew 96.1 wrote on October 13, 2007 11:55 pm:
" I'm completely open to well-reasoned and completely transparent arguments for or against religion. But it's been made quite clear to me by religious people that many religious people abandon any rationale reason for arguing in favor of simply just say "Believe it". Well, why not believe everything? Why put my trust in Christians? I have no reason, other than the accident of my birthplace, to latch onto christian illogic versus Moslem illogic or ancient Greek illogic. "

Peaceful wrote on October 14, 2007 12:48 am:
" No evidence for God? Consider life itself: even in our technologically advanced, information-overloaded age, life itself continues to defy any purely naturalistic explanations. And for those who pride themselves in being "rational" and suggest that they base their beliefs on scientific fact (in contrast to men and women of faith who believe in myth), then demonstrate for the rest of us, 1) How our physical universe came from nothing; 2) How non-living chemicals produced the first living cell; and 3) How Consciousness came from unconsciousness? Quite frankly, I don't have enough faith to be an atheists. But even with the "head" issues being answered for the skeptic, there is still the "heart" issue which may be the real issue. For those with a "heart" problem, don't let the bad examples or bad experiences with people/groups keep you from the only One who is perfect and who is Himself the source of life, love, meaning and joy. You may not believe in Him but He believes in you and loves you. "

HPG wrote on October 14, 2007 4:57 am:
" What a sad commentary on the state of man today. I will pray for your souls. May God bless and keep each and every one of you. "

Duane Tiemann wrote on October 14, 2007 5:06 am:
" "If you label true followers of a faith as "non thinking" you have also missed the point." The point? What point is it that was missed? Just look at the religious comments here to get a broad sense of the thoughtfulness of religious folk. -- or lack thereof. Almost all rely on emotional appeal, magnificent sunset, moral values, sad to think, I just feel sadness,If you don't want. Those that don't are just assertions. Only a fool, reason is useless, It's impossible to "go godless.", You can't do it without the holy spirit. Whatever and Soren being exceptions. That's not to say that some religious people don't attempt to think. But, based on the sample here, "non-thinking" is a fair characterization. "

I find it funny wrote on October 14, 2007 6:57 am:
" that "christisns" cannot accept religious beliefs contrary to their own. Christianity is the most intolerant of the religions alive today. "

WCG wrote on October 14, 2007 7:30 am:
" You know, usually I get depressed reading the morning news (you know what I mean), but these comments have been surprisingly uplifting and encouraging. Maybe Nebraskans ARE starting to give up fantasy and wishful thinking. It's not easy, of course, especially when you've been raised to think that some giant sky father is guiding your steps. But the real world is lovely, too. Science is absolutely amazing, and it has the added benefit of being demonstrably true. The religious have no logical argument, they just want to believe. Yeah, sure, your loving god is going to torture forever anyone who doesn't believe he exists. Right. Well, if you want to convince us, show us some evidence. No, not sunsets, I'm afraid. Yes, they are beautiful and inspiring, but... so what? We have learned that the sun is not god's chariot. Nothing supernatural there. In fact, everything we've learned in the past 2,000 years shows that there's no need for a god to explain these things. We don't know everything, of course (I hope there's always something new to discover), but everything we HAVE learned is perfectly natural, not supernatural. And there's absolutely no evidence that the supernatural actually exists outside of our own imaginations. "

Concerned wrote on October 14, 2007 8:21 am:
" Religions, as institutionalized worldviews, are (and have been through history) mechanisms in waiting to be exploited by worldly powers for palpable goals. So much so, that POLITICAL maxim of the Reformation epoch was "Cuius regio, illius religio", meaning "The one who holds the reign decides the religion of the population". In contemporary America, that maxim is being turned the other way 'round by Evangelicals, into "Cuius religio, illius regio". "

Tim wrote on October 14, 2007 3:00 pm:
" Let's see, Harris "focuses on the evils committed in the name of religion, especially intolerance and violence". This intolerance springs from the religious person's belief that his system is right and all others are wrong. Hitchens calls religion the "accomplice of slavery, genocide, racism & tyranny". Hmmm. Let's follow the logical outcome of athiestic resoning here. There is no God. Humans are products of a series of beneficial mutuations and random chance. Transcendant morals are an illusion, because there really is no "right" or "wrong". Based on the logical outcome of their belief system, how do they get off criticizing anyone (that includes Nazi Germany, Communist China & Russia) for perpetrating genocide, slavery or tyranny? If they are true to their beliefs, none of these things can correctly be labeled "wrong", so if they have any intellectual integrity, they should merely shut up about the "evils" of this or that religion (or government for that matter) and go back to their ivory towers. Since we're merely more evolved animals, why should be concerned when the strong kill the old or weak? Isn't that called "survival of the fittest"? Isn't that "mother evolution" performing her beautiful creative function? Based on their belief system, they cannot say that murder, rape, genocide or any other social phenomenon is "wrong" or "right". It is merely a reflection of the current state of naturalistic evolution. It blows my mind that guys like this, who are supposedly geniuses, can't see the GLARING philosophical, existential and logical inconsistencies with what they say they believe and then what they say & do. Answer the following multiple choice question: Who is the bigger hypocrite: (A) The man who believes in a God who has given absolute moral values and then attempts to live by them or (B) The man who believes there is no God and no absolute values, and then writes books and goes on lecture tours telling others they SHOULD and SHOULD'T do. BTW - regarding the "tyranny and violence" perpetrated by religious people who believe they are right and everyone else is wrong. Communism, which is a declared athiestic political system, probably committed more violence, oppression and tyranny than any other group in the 20th century. "

Mary Ann wrote on October 14, 2007 3:21 pm:
" Yesterday (Sat.) I just happened to sit down with the newspaper and just happened on this article. As a former "Catholic" and now PROUD atheist (freethinker), it was so refreshing to see this in one of Nebraska's newspapers. Thank you, JournalStar. If the "believers" would just take a moment, step back, and really LOOK AT and RESEARCH their religious beliefs, they (like me) would have no choice but to believe that it is ALL a myth. Research the HISTORY of Christianity and it will open your eyes. I've been there, so I know . . . and it was so liberating to finally see the TRUTH! Today, I am a proud, decent, and honest atheist and want everyone to know! "

T wrote on October 14, 2007 3:44 pm:
" You're right, science cannot confidently tell us how chemical compounds resulted in living cells or how human consciousness sprung to life. But neither does religion! The fact that science cannot explain something is not evidence that a higher power is responsible!! That general logical principle is learned in grade school. Science couldn't explain why the planets seemed to move in periodic patterns in the sky or tell us how our descendants tended to share our physical attributes until relatively recently. It wasn't until the discoveries of Galileo and Newtown that planetary motion was firmly understand, qualitatively and quantitatively, and it was until the discovery of DNA that mankind thoroughly understood why physical characteristics were passed from one generation to the next. Just because it can't be explained doesn't mean God is doing it!! I would simply like to see some sort of physical evidence that "god" exists! The only thing that is ever cited are thing from your "heart" or statements like, "when you look around, how can you say there isn't a god". My question is simply, "Based on actual physical evidence, how can you say that there is a god?" "

To T wrote on October 14, 2007 4:35 pm:
" Your Question: "Based on actual physical evidence, how can you say that there is a god?" I would like to respond that the fact that there is physical evidence of anything is evidence of God, but you would call that a fallacy. Without getting accused of being flippant I will say that there once was a physical man named Jesus, and he provided testamentary evidence that he was the Son of God. This Man went to His death claiming he was fulfilling an ancient covenant to save the world. Now, you can either dismiss this evidence as coming from the mouth of a crazy person or a devil, but you cannot deny the historical physical fact that He existed. This argument is better stated and more eloquently enunciated in C.S. Lewis's work "Mere Christianity." If any atheist or non-thiest promises to read that, I promise I'll read "God is not Great." Any takers? "

WWJD wrote on October 14, 2007 8:00 pm:
" It scares me to think that there are so many nonbelievers and atheists out there. I guess I'd rather be wrong and spend eternity in heaven. "

Bill wrote on October 15, 2007 7:03 am:
" Tim, do you really think that, before the Bible, people didn't know that murder and rape were wrong? And genocide is actually praised in the Bible - the killing of men, women, and children who are heretics. Not to mention the murder of suspected witches, the stoning of disobedient children, the keeping of slaves, etc. You don't get your moral code from the Bible - you decide what's right and wrong first, and then look in the Bible for something to justify your reasoning. Many atrocities across the ages were committed by people who knew their Bible very, very well. 'To T', there may or may not have been a historical Jesus. There's no good evidence either way. Certainly the gospels were written long after his death (and copied and modified by innumerable people before being collected in the Christian bible). They are no evidence at all. You are just believing what you want to believe. And if you look around the Earth today, you can find plenty of people who think they are God. Is that evidence that they really are? Belief is just superstition and clinging to ancient fairy tales, nothing more. It is high time we grew up. "

Concerned wrote on October 15, 2007 8:09 am:
" Just look around you and see the writing on the wall. ALL monotheistic religions are exclusive, intolerant, elbowing each other out of the market. You religious people cannot agree upon nature of that very same, single, god of yours let alone accept the people without god. I'm an atheist, reading the book "Jesus Today: A Spirituality of Radical Freedom", by Albert Nolan, a fourth generation South African and brilliant theologian. I'm not asking you to read Marx, or Richard Dawkins, I'm asking you to read the said book. "

Lindsay wrote on October 15, 2007 8:26 am:
" I have tried, but I just can't find it in my heart to believe. I don't know why people fear for the "nonbelievers." As long as people abide by the golden rule the other fluff doesn't matter too much. "

Born right the first time. wrote on October 15, 2007 8:36 am:
" A couple things: It is NOT easy to be a non-believer. It took me years of painful, fearful thought to realize that the religion of my youth was false. Even after I left christianity I still felt an indoctrinated fear of damnation for years until I realized how silly it was. And in a world so overwhelmingly religious is it even dangerous in some places to admit to being an atheist. Second: to everyone who has claimed that god loves me, I'm going to hell, etc.... prove it. Lastly: Faith is not a reason. Faith is, by definition the LACK of reason. If you had any REASON to believe something you would not need faith. Faith is literally admitting you have absolutely no reason to believe in something but you do it anyway. That doesn't sound very rational. "

Rys wrote on October 15, 2007 11:38 am:
" A very good article, I have been struggling with this very same issue for a few years now. I grew up in a chrsitian and church-going home. In fact, my father was a pastor. But lately, after doing some thinking on my own, I realize that it just doesn't fit. It doesn't make any sense. This is not an easy decision to make at all, and I don't do it lightly. It's heartbreaking to feel like your life has been a lie. I don't reject the idea of a supernatural being, but I understand that we have no way of knowing who that being is. There is no religion that has more evidence of being correct than the other. EVERY religion believes that they are the one true religion, which is impossible. They can't all be right. And I don't want to waste my one shot at life by trying to please someone who may or may not exist. I'm just hoping that if there is a God, they are loving and just and will rightly reward those who tried to use their lives to make the world a better place. "

t wrote on October 15, 2007 12:20 pm:
" Someone above posts "but you cannot deny the historical physical fact that He existed." What do you base your claim that Jesus' existance, or his life and death as described in the Gospels, is a "historical fact"? There are lots of accounts of lots of extraordinary things in lots of religions and sects, and they obviously don't all qualify as historical facts. If you are a Christian then by definition you must believe that all other religions are works of fiction, so obviously that begs us non-believers to ask how you know that the "historical fact" you cite was not ALSO a work of fiction? "

Michael Teply wrote on October 15, 2007 4:22 pm:
" Religion is one of the reasons I left Omaha and moved to California.Here in most parts of California religion is seen for what it really is. A nuisance at best and a hinderence at worst. I went to church 6 days a week at Assumption parish in Omaha. What a waste of time. "

Brian wrote on October 15, 2007 11:27 pm:
" Rys, I encourage you to check out the Lincoln Secular Humanists and spend some time with people who feel the same way as you. It may be beneficial and comforting and you may make some new friends. "

What? wrote on October 16, 2007 11:28 am:
" Why are we scared of having a religious country? We can see that our society and the world's was built thanks to religion. If we look to the Christian society during the post classical era, we can see that political order and a good economy was established thanks to religion and that it helped the society. We can't blame the mistakes that our country has been making on religion when clearly we are the ones to blame for. Also, presidential elections are not based on religion. So if we have had bad presidents that is because they make mistakes not because of religion. "

Earthen wrote on October 16, 2007 1:57 pm:
" I have faith in the spirit of good. I just don't need to put a name to it. I pray that it will help me be fair, kind and helpful to others, and in return I pray that it will guide me in life. I don't need to throw my money at dangerous gods. I don't want to associate with a group who hates or kills in the name of their God. I also don't need to be patted on the back by a church simply because I call my God by the same name as them, or because I'm willing to fork over some cash. Faith should be a natural human characteristic, but religion is learned. Unfortunately those who teach it never take the time to actually study it, and they just ramble the same crap their parents and grandparents rambled to them. "

Simple Logic wrote on October 16, 2007 3:57 pm:
" If Christian God exists: Christians receive eternal life. Nonchristians receive eternal death. If no God exists: Christians, atheists all equally dead. There are the gods of other religions to consider as well, as if they are correct there will be different destinies for nonbelievers. The point I am making here is that atheism has no benefit ultimately. If Christians are correct, God will make a new heaven and earth. If atheists are correct, either the universe will collapse back upon itself or it will continue to expand infinitly and eventually every star will consume itself and fade into a cold ball of matter. "

Ryan wrote on October 16, 2007 9:21 pm:
" Logic is trying to use Pascal's Wager. It's not a feasible reason to believe in a god, unfortunately. If one is going to weigh the consequences of belief in a god, one mus also weigh belief in all gods. So, do you believe in Zeus? If Zeus is the correct god then you are wasting your time believing in a false god (Yahweh) and will be punished for not believing in Zeus. So, we should believe in Zeus. And Yahweh. And all other gods that may be correct. But we can't. This is but one of the many problems with Pascal's Wager and it is certainly not a good reason to force belief in a god, and in reality, if this is the main reason one believes in a particular god then you have forced yourself to do so and it would not be a real belief. Oh well. That's what faith is for - the admission that we have absolutely no reason to believe something but we do it anyway. "

Wow wrote on October 17, 2007 11:20 am:
" It never occurred to me, ever, that I would hear people saying that my belief in God was some whimsical silly fantasy thing. Why are you so angry about my spirituality that you make these angry comments? I must say, it does irritate me when others who profess to be Christian make those comments like 'see you in hell', but please don't assume we're all like that. I'm quite tolerant, QUITE a FREE-THINKER, thank you, and to me, it seems that the whole concept of faith is reinforced when people try to dispel it. Yes, there's no scientific proof (though that can be debated) and it exists beyond reason.....um, that's the point. I just think life would be so boring without my belief in an higher power. I'd be lonely and often feeling like it's all on my shoulders, if I didn't have the faith that I do. It's a personal thing for all of us, to believe or not to believe. However, it seems most often when friends of mine explain to me why they choose no to believe, it's weak. God doesn't give you exactly what you want, and to turn YOUR back on HIM because of that is so silly and childish. I could easily go there--my life, when people get to know me, is full of unbelievable difficult stuff, and people often marvel aloud to me that I turned out the way that I did. I attribute that to my faith in God, which has been shakey at times, but there it is. Please, everyone, don't speak so hatefully. Believe or don't believe, but don't be so rude and gross about it. "

Edgar Pearlstein wrote on October 17, 2007 2:40 pm:
" We should all be good little boys and girls, just in case there really is a Santa Claus, "

To WOW: wrote on October 17, 2007 4:19 pm:
" I would feel ashamed for anyone who claims to be an atheist because 'god didn't give them what they wanted' so they turned their back on him(?). That's not a valid reason for any belief or lack of belief. They are foolish people for doing so. I refuse to believe (stopped beleiving) in god because I realized that I had no reason TO believe in a god. For the same reason I don't beleive in santa claus or the tooth fairy. But I certainly didn't stop beleiving in santa because I never got that wagon when I was five... "

I believe... wrote on October 17, 2007 5:22 pm:
" The "religious right" and their infusion into the Republican Party have helped push me further toward atheism; and I am someone who attended a conservative Christian school and church for most of my life. I believe you are confusing politics w/religion. Christianity is NOT a religion; it's a lifestyle, which real Christians should already know about. There are good and bad people in this world and it's up to the individual to decide which way they want to go. Just remember that there are consequences to your actions in all that you do. "

JPC wrote on October 17, 2007 6:17 pm:
" Here are my 2 cents on this...to much stock is being placed on the words "Christian" and "Religion". I in God, and that Jesus Christ died for my sins, but I don't call myself a "Christian", I am a follower of Christ. I really don't get all caught up in the dogma, or litergy that go along with what most people view as "Religion" Yes over the course of the world many wars and unrightous things have been done by man "in the name of God", but just because some have twisted the message,that doesn't mean that I am going to give up my belief. Jesus warns that "Don't let anyone mislead you,for many will come in my name, claiming,'I am the Messiah, the time has come'But don't believe them." So I don't know why people act soooo suprised when someone twists Christs teaching. And if someone doesn't believe in God, that is their choice, God still loves them, and it isn't our place to judge them. And not all people who follow Christ want to condem people of other beliefs, some of us want to have an open relationship with our fellow man, and leave the world better than we found it. I am glad that the LJS is finally writting some real articles for a change. It is about time that they write about other beliefs, and help people see that really we aren't that diffrent after all. "

TreeHugging DirtWorshiper wrote on October 17, 2007 8:42 pm:
" OK, here's a wacky crazy idea. How about we all just live and let live. Believers, go to your corner. Non-believers, you go to yours. And lets stop trying to convince each other to beleive or not to. Lets just let people think what they want to think, and believe what they want to believe. Let all play nice and stop attacking each other. You over there, you worship your god...You over there, you worship nothing...and I'll stay here and worship my goddess. In PEACE. "

whatever wrote on October 17, 2007 9:18 pm:
" Actually, most Christian denominations I'm familiar with teach that faith is a virtue. Questioning ones faith is a normal process for the "faithful". If a person hasn't gotten that out of whatever religious teaching they have had then they have certainly been short changed. I would further submit that those that felt they could not question their faith and still remain faithful to their religion have taken a "cowards way". It's easy to "quit", it's easy to "go along to get along", but it's hard to be faithful. Personally I would rather suffer financially and personally than to give up my pursuit of faith and truth, otherwise what is the purpose of living you merely exist and consume. "

Jody P. wrote on October 18, 2007 10:37 am:
" I thought I'd quote Albert Einstein's relevant views