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Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 - 12:19:45 am CDT

Last week, a flag was stolen from the front of my house. I don’t think the person who stole my flag has any idea how much it means to me, nor how much I really would love to have it back.

I carried it with me while in Bosnia trying to help the people there return to as much normalcy as possible after a terrible war. That flag was in my guntruck while my team of men and I found and marked landmines and unexploded munitions. I had it with me while on foot patrols, documenting war crimes. That flag accompanied me on missions to search for war criminals.

The flag that was stolen from my home was what reminded me of the reasons why I had left my family and home, and the freedom I wanted to help these people have.

When I left for Iraq, I took that flag with me. I was gone for 16 months, and every day of those 16 months that flag was with me, on every mission. It has been blown up, shot at, and seen things that I wouldn’t wish on anyone.

If I can’t have my flag back, please take as much care of it as it has of me.

Albert K. Beute, Lincoln, Staff Sergeant, U.S. Army, Cavalry

Lost money returned

Last Saturday, I lost some money at a volleyball tournament at Norris.  The money was not nearly as important as the bank account information in the envelope.

This week, I received a notice from my bank that a lady had returned the envelope and the money to my bank for redeposit.

I would love to thank you personally. Your kindness and honesty are very much appreciated and heartwarming. Thank you.

Kelly Hedlund, Lincoln

Review poorly written

I’m a friend of Jonis Agee, whose novel, “The River Wife,” your paper gave such irresponsible treatment Sept. 23. I mention this up front by way of full disclosure.

I’m not here to defend Jonis’ book, which, as it’s going into its second printing, needs no defense. Instead, I’m writing to seek a defense of your own for printing such lazy criticism.

Nina Murray does in her review the exact sort of thing I give my students low grades for doing: reacting to a text without thoughtfully responding to it. Jonis’ book is called “overwrought” and “overblown” without Murray ever arguing where and how. She labels the novel as melodrama without providing any example of inappropriate effect, much less a discussion of what problems the use of melodrama might bring to a novel.

In short, Murray makes a ton of arguments without ever bothering to back any of them up with textual evidence. This is, to be clear, the first thing students learn how to do in a freshman composition class.

I’m ashamed to say that Murray and I have master’s degrees from the same institution, that our program seems to have produced such a sloppy scholar. But that the Journal Star sees such criticism fit to print should make you feel far more ashamed. Reviews without analysis help no one, neither the writers of novels nor those seeking which to read.

Either find a way to devote more space in your paper to the careful development of an argument, or try harder to find reviewers who can actually do their jobs.

David C. Madden, Lincoln

Talk about immoral

This letter is in response to all the rather homophobic letters the Journal Star has printed of late.

In almost all of them, I noticed a single theme. The writer claimed that homosexuality was immoral, because the Bible said so.

Let’s all be clear what immoral means. Injuring someone is immoral, because it affects someone else negatively, and intrudes upon their basic rights. Killing someone is immoral, because it affects someone else (quite) negatively. So are extortion, rape, assault and copyright infringement.

Being gay, whether it is a choice or not, is not immoral. Neither is having gay sex. That hurts no one, that infringes upon no one’s rights.

Your religion is something else entirely. If you believe that you shouldn’t work on Sundays, fine, don’t go to work on Sunday. Don’t label all Sunday workers immoral. If you believe you should never curse, fine. Don’t label anyone who does immoral. If you believe you need to go to church on Easter, fine. Don’t label those who stay home immoral.

If you believe homosexuality is a sin, fine. Don’t be homosexual. I could care less.

But you have absolutely no right to push your religious beliefs on others. They are not hurting you. Don’t force them to be exactly like you. To do so would be … immoral.

Jahan Claes, Lincoln

Children need care

President Bush’s statement that Congress and the Democrats are playing politics with our children as they reauthorize the State Children’s Health Insurance Program is extraordinarily ironic and misguided.  It is the president who is playing politics with our children.

The administration’s proposal for the reauthorization of SCHIP is wholly inadequate.  The funding is so paltry that there is a serious risk more Nebraska children would become uninsured and the 34,000 other Nebraska children who are currently uninsured would be completely left behind.

In contrast, the widely bipartisan bill approved by Congress would present Nebraska with an opportunity to offer essential health care to more low-income children.

Contrary to the president’s understanding, Congress’ SCHIP bill would not provide coverage for children in the middle class, but rather, would provide coverage to children who are already uninsured, 85 percent of whom have incomes that are lower than the current SCHIP eligibility guidelines.

SCHIP is a proven, effective, and bipartisan program that provides the state with the means to offer much needed health care to its low-income children.  Congress’ SCHIP bill would allow the state to offer health care to even more eligible children.  This opportunity is available to us now.

Our children are waiting for the health care they need.  Why is the president making them wait?

Jennifer A. Carter, Lincoln, Director, Health Care Access Program, Nebraska Appleseed Center for Law in the Public Interest

Poor health care here

On Wednesday, President Bush made statements indicating that he would veto a bill sponsoring the State Children’s Health Insurance Program or SCHIP because the spending was too great.  Congress asked for $35 billion to bring insurance to more than 4 million more children over the next five years than are currently eligible.

In almost the same breath, he asked Congress for another $190 billion to further fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As the old adage goes, if you are not outraged, then you aren’t paying attention.

SCHIP was established in the 1990s to help those just above the poverty line afford health insurance for their children.  With bankruptcies at all-time highs, and with many of those being caused by illness and lack of insurance, it seems that good policy would seek to cover everybody, beyond just children. 

The lack of health coverage in this country is astonishing! Republicans love to talk about the free market, but they ignore the fact that money that could be spent on larger houses, nicer cars and better education is often spent on overpriced health insurance, not to mention those pulling the economy down by declaring bankruptcy.

Nebraskans make on average around $34,000 a year. According to USA Today, the average family health care policy for a family hovers around $10,000 a year; you do the math.  With the amount of money we have spent on the “war,” we could have offered free universal health insurance to every man, woman and child in the United States with money left over.

What is freedom? Is it cynically spending billions on a foreign war, or is it providing for each other, as a community, the promise of health care?

Tyler R. White, Lincoln


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What if I think wrote on September 30, 2007 12:46 am:
" What if I think that someone shouldn't have kids if they can't handle the expense of them, including health care? And stop imagining that the government could provide free universal anything. Nothing is free, and anytime the government is involved, it will always cost more. "

nitemare wrote on September 30, 2007 4:36 am:
" Kelly Hedlund, you are so lucky! 3 weeks ago, I had the contents, (change, lighter, cigarettes, etc.) stolen from my car in the Home Depot parking lot. This wasn't so bad, I could deal with this. But, like you, I had just come from the bank, and had new account information and a sheet of starter checks stolen as well! What a mess this creates, having to go close and open accounts. I am glad you got your stuff back, my "visitor" wasn't near as polite! "

Dave wrote on September 30, 2007 6:43 am:
" Thank you Sgt.Beute for your service to our country,God willing the person that stole your flag will read this and return it to the person that served his country so honorable. "

Hank wrote on September 30, 2007 6:43 am:
" Nitemare, was your car lcked at the time of the thieft? So many leave thier cars unlocked, items just waiting for someone to take them. I'm not pointing fingers at you Nite but leaving ones car unlocked is in a way contributing to the crime. A big bag of thorns to those that leave thier cars running while going into a place for "just a minuit". Your ride gets stolen and someone ends up piling it into a family of four in a high speed chase. At the very least, we have to pay the police, public defender, judge, and legal system to prosicute the offender. Insurance payments go up for all due to this act of irrisponsibility also, think about it. "

Rick wrote on September 30, 2007 7:46 am:
" To "what if I think" comments. It makes me think of a book written by Charles Dickens, where a character states, "are there no work houses" and " decrease the surplus population" "

Jeff wrote on September 30, 2007 7:56 am:
" Jahan - The Christian message is straight and clear - we are not the final judge of one another - that is God's job - but there is a description in the bible of sins - a lot of Christians believe that is pretty well described and not for us to be changing or second guessing God's word. We are to love the sinner, since we are all sinners. We won't change our beliefs based on your definition of immoral. We will vote on issues based on our beliefs. That's how our system works. Labeling Christians with this view as homophobic and hate-filled is a strategy - but it might just be immoral. "

Constitution Check wrote on September 30, 2007 8:15 am:
" Please show me in the US Constitution, you all remmember that document I hope, where I the average American citizen is responsible for the health and welfare of others who by thier choice maintain less than healthy lifestyles, and or lack of responsibility in the number of children they bear. Also need to see where the Federal Government has the right to the "free" labor and benifit from a private industry, as the Government tries to Federalize 1/5th of our economy. The lefts chant of "Government off my body" in thier freedom of "choice" arguement is pretty mute when they now want the government to be responsible for thier body based on a lifestyle "choice". Don't be overweight, don't smoke, no risky sexual practice, better lifestyle and health "choice", have children as you can afford them in a responsible manner, etc...now there is a medical benifit plan that costs next to nothing. .61 cent tax on cigarettes for S-Chip based on a diminishing return (the stop smoking craze now in vogue), if in the lefts utopian world everyone stops smoking based on bans simular to Lincolns, where will the .61 tax per pack come from. I got it a .61 cent tax on each coffee house Starbucks type cup off coffee, More of the left types can afford the "coffee" tax, than poor Joe Sixpack who happens to have one vice on his "poor" income. Think about it, another tax on the poor, $634 per year tax on a "poor" smoker based on one carton per week per year, I thought the rich needed to be taxed more? So we can accomplish that with the "coffehouse" tax or everyone will need to start smoking to continue the payments on the S-Chip program, difficult choice. BTW I do not smoke, and lead a healthy lifestyle so how do I get guilted into paying for S-Chip or any for lack of better term "socialized" medical system? to pay for your poor "choices" in life. Oh, I know, I get to pay for it by Governmental decree, in violation of the US Constitution. Individual Freedoms vs Governmental Dependance I liked that reference on the new political spectrum. "

Liz wrote on September 30, 2007 8:50 am:
" To Kelly, There are people that do the right thing, that don't take advantage of someone else. I hope the person that returned your money sees this article. To nitemare, What were those things doing in your car in the first place? I will never understand why people leave their purses in their car, nor why sensitive information is left in a car. You don't mention if your doors were locked or not, but really, does it matter? Why not just leave $100 lying on the seat? I grew up in a very small town (ppl 800) and I NEVER left my purse in the car, NEVER left anything in the car that I didn't want taken. I see people leave computers in the car. People need to take better care of their belongings and shoulder some of the responsibility if they don't and things get stolen. "

I do think.... wrote on September 30, 2007 8:52 am:
" That families sitting right at or below the poverty line should reconsider having kids, or, reconsider their extracirricular activities if they can't even afford to take care of themselves! This argument gets old! My husband and I do very well financially, however, we don't have kids of our own. We are saving for retirement and other things that might come our way. We couldn't afford a kid right now, and we know that! Use your brains people! When poor people have kids, it's really the kids that suffer. "

Darren wrote on September 30, 2007 10:28 am:
" In regards to homophobia. We are in a country that has the freedom of religion not freedom from religion. How can it be immoral to reach out to someone in love for what they are doing is hurting them and the community they live in. You are in a state of denying the truth and accepting the lies. When I correct my children I hurt their pride that dose not make my correction immoral. I think you should know more about the truth. To hate evil is not immoral. To call bad good and good bad is immoral. "

CS wrote on September 30, 2007 10:47 am:
" Its easy to wag the finger of righteous superiority at poor people from your financially comfortable perch, but there are just as many or more middle class families that can't afford health insurance either unless it has a deductible that makes it almost useless. The arguments that "maybe you shouldn't have had kids" are reactionary and useless. Maybe Ill come by your hospital room sometime when you are hurt or sick and say "well, maybe you shouldn't been driving a car, or maybe you shouldn't have gotten cancer". Since the median income for NE is 34,000, does that mean that the 'median' population for the state just shouldn't have kids either? Wow, thats that kinds of condescending argument that I would expect from a CF coupld, many of whom are so selfish that i'm glad they have decided not to breed. People having children are not the problem-the poverty line isn't hit until after you have kids. A comfortable married couple only has to have a child to be below the poverty line according to the government's arbitrarily set income line much like the insurance companies and drug companies arbitrarily set their rates. Its a moving target set by an extreme minority of people that affects everyone.Anyone with a brain knows that universal care would not be 'free' so stop latching onto someone's bad choice of words to prop up your argument. If you want to save forever for the mythical magical number that you think is enough before you have children, thats fine, but I hope that you don't have fertility treatments and other extreme forms of care to conceive and I know that you will, of course, return the child tax credit and any other tax incentives that you may receive , since you are so financially comfortable. It only fair since I don't want to help pay for your treatments or tax incentives either. I'm more than happy to pay for a program that supports everyone, just not a program that segregates based on ability to pay and provides disparate levels of care based on socio-economic status. "

Zoomie wrote on September 30, 2007 11:11 am:
" So if people who shouldn't have kids do...punish the kids! Yeah! That's a GREAT solution to the problem! Congratulations, people on the right, you've returned the Dickensian levels of UNCHRISTIAN non-care for innocent children, and again made my case for me that there are no "pro-life" only "anti-abortion", because yet again you've demonstrated you could care less about those fetus' once they become actual children! "

Zoomie wrote on September 30, 2007 11:20 am:
" Oh, and why shouldn't I be allowed to support Congress in spending $7 billion per year to help keep innocent American kids alive (and note that the US Gov't admits 18,000 people per year die for lack of health insurance), but we're supposed to spend $200 billion per year on Iraqis who could care less that we're even there? Who can't do even the simplest acts to create their own free country? And Jeff, problem is the selective behavior of Christians on those sins. The same list that includes homosexuality also condemns things like wearing certain cloth, mixing meat and dairy, bans pork, etc., but Christians have no problem ignoring those bans! And since our secular Constitution guarantees equal rights to ALL citizens (not just Christians), when you deny them equal rights because they're homosexual, yes, I'd call that immoral! A Congressional Research Service (non-partisan branch of Congress) study 4-5 yrs ago found more than 5,000 ways in which gays are denied equal legal rights with heterosexuals. So this is not just disapproving of their behavior, its literally denying them equal rights! "

t wrote on September 30, 2007 2:24 pm:
" Yes - we don't adhere to all of the Old Testament laws - which were changed with the teachings of Jesus - but we do adhere to new Testament teachings which do refer to this issue. And they should have equal rights. The problem is - the demand seems to be focusing on getting Christian Churchs to change - to change their beliefs.... and I do mean demand - as in let us get married in your church, and be your pastors and bishops - or we will label you as homophobics. That is going to meet resistance. "

Get a GRIP! wrote on September 30, 2007 2:24 pm:
" The homosexual community constantly, unrelentingly, unceasingly pushes their IMmoriality onto the world, and there is name calling, hatred, intolerance and violence directed at those who don't fall into lock-step with their agenda. If you don't want Christian morality shoved onto you, then YOU be the first to get the homosexual community to stop shoving their IMMORALITY onto Christians and others who hold to the fact that homosexuality is immoral! "

laurie wrote on September 30, 2007 2:32 pm:
" Albert K. Beute, thanks for keeping us safe. I do hope you get that flag back. A lot of people do not understand the importance of the flag to soldiers and their families. We do fly a flag 24/7. It is great to see them waving in the breeze. "

Comman-Sense wrote on September 30, 2007 4:50 pm:
" The costs of health care is steadily going up because of the excesses in the American lifestyle. John Edwards did not get rich as a trial lawyer/ambulance chaser for nothing. Between poor "choices" americans make in thier health, trial lawyer abuse, and abuses by the illegal population no wonder the insurance companies, and medical profession needs to raise rates. You smoke and get lung disease, over eat and become obese and have heart problems, you drink and get liver problems or drive and are involved in a serious auto accident and get severely injured, engage in sexual activities risking STD's/AIDS, how did these issues now become MY problem to solve and to ensure you get treatment. I checked we are all born with a terminal disease, and if the choices you make in life shorten that life even further that is YOUR personal financial problem to solve based on your personal behavior. With the low cost of and availibility of birth control, again a behavior issue on responsibility, YOUR excesses and or ignorance should not be MY problem. Rationed health care does NOT work, ask the Canadian woman who had to come into Montana to have the multiple birth, since all the available in her area neo-natal care facilities in the wonderfull Canadian Health Care system were unavailable. Check out the new UK availability of drugs for childbirth, rationed, and new policy of natural birth to save costs. Suffer the Children is not an excuse, if the parents can not afford the required care because of thier financial priorities, maybe a government child care facility, and parental sterilization to limit their financial problem should be offered up in the new socialist era of Governmental Dependance, you want the government to be responsible. The lefts demand of "choice" in abortion based on the suffering of the child based on potential parental financial concern should now include those adults where medical costs for thier care in in excess of their potential contribution to society as they age and we now "abort" thier lives too. The TAX moneypit that many on the left beleive has no bottom, toss in another rock, you can hear it hit the bottom now...................... "

Ripper wrote on September 30, 2007 4:57 pm:
" First off Albert, my humble thanks for serving this country-I did the same in Vietnam and had a son die in Desert Storm-the flag I carried in Vietnam was with him when he died-it is the most treasured item in my world. Second, Zoomie, you automatically assume that anybody against SCHIP is from the right, again you quote stuff without supporting documentation-your opinion on most issues here has become pedantic at best and almost totally without merit. Apparently you are satisfied to spout opinion and venom without merit or support. You don't help the cause you simple run it into the ground. "

Smoker wrote on September 30, 2007 5:17 pm:
" Jennifer, as a Lincoln resident you should be the first in line to repeal the non-smoking in public areas in order to increase the consumption of cigarettes in order to pay for this SCHIP progam. The Democrats put, yes a .61 cent tax per pack on cigarettes to pay for this program, so people if you support SCHIP repeal Lincoln smoking ordinances and resume smoking to pay for this all important program. And we wonder on the 11% approval rate of the current congress, a TAX on a decreed diminishing asset (tobacco consumption), REAL geniuses at work. I do like the "Starbucks TAX" on all you yuppie coffehouse types, if you can afford a $4.00 cup of coffee you can afford another .61 cents also, great idea Constitution Check............ "

CS wrote on September 30, 2007 6:44 pm:
" Jesus never said anything about not following the old laws, merely that they weren't the only laws to follow any more. More selective biblical reading again. "

Jahan Claes wrote on September 30, 2007 7:16 pm:
" Homosexuals in no way push their beliefs on others. You want them to be straight. They're not asking you to be gay. Which one is being unreasonable? And how does it hurt you in any way? "

Jahan Claes wrote on September 30, 2007 7:27 pm:
" And I have one more question: If you want gay marraige illegal (remember, the government should have nothing to do with your religion) then it must be immoral. WHY is gayness immoral? "

to tyler... wrote on September 30, 2007 8:38 pm:
" Right on....the richest country in the free world and we have to go to bed each night worrying that we can pay that months premium. What an absolute joke! Do everything right...work full time......be an outstanding citizen.....no police records..vote every election....and I have to worry like the dickens about my health insurance. It is making me ashamed of how this country handles this difficult situation for it's citizens. This will be my hot button when election time comes. I'll get sick just worrying about this. 836.00 per month.....2 people...no children....and have never been in the hospital. What's wrong with this picture? Now I'm running from Blue Cross & Blue shield to a less expensive insurance, but have to do blood and urine before I can relax. Probably have something stress related that I don't even realize I have. Health Care is a major hot button for this Lincolnite! Do something about this someone!!!!!!!!! "

Jim wrote on September 30, 2007 10:29 pm:
" The East and West coasts delt with the homo issue 30 years ago folks and it just now seems to be raising its ugly head here. Why not just take a lesson on where it will end up by saying to ourselves what they have done i.e. "who gives a fat crap?" "

Question- wrote on September 30, 2007 10:39 pm:
" If this new Hillary Care health plan is the godsend that many here feel, will the political and social elites in Washington and Hollywood also be required by law to have the mandated insurance card and actually forced into the plan as thier only health care option, or is it another two tiered system and another us vs them attack on the middle class in order to ensure dependance. Fixing the problem would be a lot easier if like one here stated actual responsibility for your own personal health was your first health care priority. How do we pay for this potential governmental program fiasco, look how well the government handled Social Security, and the VA Medical System. I will feel a whole lot better on the actual application of this plan if I turn around and Hillary is also standing in line waiting for her ration of health care, but we all know better on that one......Also as an added note, if public schooling is such a success, why again are the political and social elite children in private schools, and not sharing the fine public education of the masses? "

Don wrote on September 30, 2007 10:56 pm:
" On what basis are you claiming that homosexuality and having gay sex is not immoral? Why should Christians believe what you say? They have their basis for why they believe what they do. Why don't you state what your basis is for saying what you do? Also, how have Christians forced their beliefs on you? How have their beliefs affected your lifestyle, whatever that is. Don't read what they have to say if you don't like it. Don't condemn them for expressing their opinions and then say it is cramming it down your throat. If that is true, then how are you any different? "

B wrote on September 30, 2007 11:03 pm:
" This is a homophobic & prejudice town, and it just keeps getting worse. As far as insurance goes.......we have insurance & jobs AND STILL can't afford adequate health care. I can't imagine how poverty level people are getting by. I wish the homophobes would just shut up. Your argument isn't very 'godly' and surely your pal Jesus wouldn't agree with your statements & actions. Remember, WWJD? The actions of these phobes reflect on the whole Christian community & drag down the good Christians. enuf already@! "

RE: Kelly wrote on September 30, 2007 11:28 pm:
" Why does everyone think the money was in her car? Don't act like it's her fault. It could've fallen out of her purse. She never mentioned anything about a car. "

heartbroken wrote on October 1, 2007 10:22 am:
" I sympathize with Sgt. Beute; I've never felt so violated as when my flag was stolen off my front porch. I had just moved into a new home in late August, and mounted a flagpole on the porch railing, to proudly fly my colors on my first home. Two weeks later the terrorists struck the Twin Towers. Three days later I came home from work to find the flag pole broken in the flower bed, and the flag stolen. As a life-long Nebraskan, and former U.S. Naval Officer, living in a military neighborhood near Offutt, the pain is still raw so many years later. "

Health Care wrote on October 1, 2007 11:00 am:
" You can't leave healthcare up to the free market system - those who want to maxmize profits don't care how much your premiums are. They are trying to think, develop, and market new technologies and drugs that will make them money. It may or may not be a medical advance, they don't care, as long as it makes money. It might be another drug for erectile dysfunction or gastric reflux disease - those make money. Finding a cure for parkinsons - ummmm not so much. They will take a product with very minor advantages over older products - and through mass advertisement to the consumers - will charge ridiculous amounts of money - whatever the market will bear. And we feed into it by demanding (as our right) to have the latest and greatest healthcare available. You can't have it both ways. In the meantime - people go uninsured - or walk into the Emergency dept. of the local non-profit community hospital with problems that should/ could have been minimized or prevented if they had proper healthcare coverage. Some controls are necessary. First - let the government negotiate drug prices directly w/ companies - and then promote those mediations that are the best value. Stop direct to consumer advertisement for prescription drugs. They are spending millions that should go into research and development. Everyone should have basic coverage which includes a primary care physician. Those who demand non-formulary medications or unlimited visits to specialists can pay extra. The amount of money we pay for medications is subsidizing the low amounts that other countries are paying. We can do better. You can't make fun of HilliaryCare and John Edwards - and in the same breath criticize healthcare costs. They are trying to do something about it. "

P. Robert wrote on October 1, 2007 12:20 pm:
" Jahan, The problem is that homosexuals are trying to force the rest of us to accept their behavior as normal. I am for two consenting adults doing whatever they want to each other but don't try to get me to sanction their relationship. It is not in the best interest of the human race to put that relationship on the same level as one that furthers are species. Please don't go to the what about hetero's that can't have kids card, that is such a straw man argument. I don't care what the bible says about this topic, science can supply all the reasons why homosexual activity is not good for any species. It's not rocket science people, just take a look at our bodies, sex has a distinct purpose and its not to just pleasure yourselves. It feels good so we will keep doing it and propogate the species. "

Whoa, whoa, whoa..... wrote on October 1, 2007 2:04 pm:
" Back off of the "poor" parents that are supposedly making their children suffer, because they happen to be below the poverty line. My mother was married at one point in time, and when I was 4, they divorced. My father did nothing to support his two children, and my mother struggled to raise two young children on her own at minimum wage. Yes, there were times when we were below the poverty line, and yes, my mom did need assistance. 1) she was FAR from lazy. She worked her butt off to provide the necessities for us. 2) My mom didn't have children when she couldn't "afford" us. That happened after the divorce. And most importantly, 3) we may not have always had the best of things, we waited in line a few times for Thanksgiving dinners, and we moved alot due to evictions, but my brother and I NEVER suffered. My mother showered us with love and affection and emotional support. She was at EVERY football game, EVERY choir concert, EVERY track meet, EVERY school play. Those of you who have never been in that situation can just sit back and criticize and patronize, but let's get one thing straight: money and wealth does NOT make you a good parent. My ex's father is a very well-respected anesthesiologist and grew up with everything except love. He became a drug addict. He also died this year at the age of 30. So don't sit on your soapboxes and look down your trifling noses at poor parents. Look at how you treat your own family before juding others. "

I have a question wrote on October 1, 2007 2:23 pm:
" In all seriousness, I would like to know where in the bible it explains WHY being homosexual is a sin. If anyone can give me a logical, rational explanation for that, I'll change my mind. In the meantime, you people go on and continue worshipping a vengeful, discriminating god. My God is loving and accepting. And he's gay. "

To Claes: wrote on October 1, 2007 3:24 pm:
" Homosexuals are constantly pushing their agenda on others. I have no problems with them trying to get equal rights for employment, health care, etc., but when they try to go for marriage and those of us who do not believe that is right vote against it, we are immediately considered to be hateful and bigotted. How is that fair? Just because Christians have their own beliefs why should we constantly be blamed for everything. I do not hate homosexuals, nor do I try to change them, however, I will not change my beliefs just because they say homosexually is ok. "

Dave wrote on October 1, 2007 6:18 pm:
" The same people that steal American flags are the same ones that steal flowers from the cemetery or your Christmas decorations. No Class! "

Zoomie wrote on October 1, 2007 10:25 pm:
" Question - yeah, lets look at SS! 75yrs old and going strong! Do NOTHING, and its set to run until AT LEAST 2042 with no problems (and it will almost certainly last lots longer with no changes)! Yeah, I'll take programs like that any day! VA Medical? When run by COMPETENT people, it was named best medical system in the US 3yrs running! Better than ANY privately run healthcare system! Cost? We are ALREADY spending MORE on healthcare than ANY OTHER COUNTRY in the world and NOT covering 48 million people (vs most other nations doing it for 50%-80% less while covering 100% of people, including even tourists!!!). Simply use a single-payer system and you cut out the 30-50% admin costs in our current system (thats hundreds of billions of dollars annually). And PLEASE stop trotting out the Canadian system (even if 95% of Canadians perfer their system to ours)! Best option would be to copy the non-socialist French system, rated BEST in the world (as well as one of the most cost-effective, while still giving you FULL choice to go anywhere, see any doctor, any time you like)! And lets not forget - we have waits for medical care in the US, and we have rationing (try getting medical care if you don't have insurance)! So its a phoney argument to claim others have waits/rationing, while pretending we don't! "

Zoomie wrote on October 1, 2007 10:35 pm:
" P - you want science? OK. Homosexuality predates Christianity by at least 2,000 years that we know of (and likely was around far longer). It is NORMAL behavior within any animal species (almost 500 different species have been documented with homosexual behavior). And t - where do you get this stuff that gays want to force churches to let them marry? No one is asking for that,and they can't! Let me point out divorce has been legal in the US for decades, but no one can force the Catholic Church to allow divorces (unless the Church themselves allow it)! So where does this garbage come from that gays will force churches to perform gay marriages? Marriage is first a LEGAL ceremony, not religious (you can marry without benefit of a churce or minister, but you cannot legally marry people without license/approval of state gov't first, even if you are a minister). So when gays demand the right to marry (which is denying them equal rights, on thousands of different ways per the CRS report), they are NOT requiring you to allow them to marry in your church! That is a canard pushed by the Christian Right in an attempt to frighten the flock (what an accurate term!). "

Zoomie wrote on October 1, 2007 10:39 pm:
" Ripper - who is the pedantic one? The one who cites facts and statistics, which can easily be checked (assuming you have basic Google competence)? Or the one who throws insults but doesn't present any dissenting facts of their own? And all I can tell you is - welcome to the United States, where people still (dispite Bush) have a right of free speech! Don't like our system? Move elsewhere! "

You Know What . . . wrote on October 2, 2007 12:30 am:
" "Homosexuals constantly pushing their agenda on us," is such a old tired statement. And you know what, heterosexuals constantly push their agenda at homosexuals. Heterosexuals push their agenda at us by showing off their new engagement rings, having their spouses' pictures on their desks at work, talking about their spouses at social events, by holding hands or kissing goodbye when one drops the other off at work. "

Jen wrote on October 2, 2007 7:52 am:
" If you think money makes you a good parent, just take a look at Britney Spears (who just lost custody of her children, mind you). She can sure afford children, but I bet her kids are suffering more than a lot of poor kids. Money doesn't replace good parenting, folks. "

P. Robert wrote on October 2, 2007 1:10 pm:
" Zoomie....see the part where I said "throw out the bible". I don't know why you would say anything about Christianity, I didn't. Yes, there is a percentage of every species that has a prediliction to commit homosexual acts but without hetero sex, those species would disappear. "

Josh wrote on October 2, 2007 2:33 pm:
" Wow, some people just don't get it. First of all, anybody who sits there and claims Canada's health care system is so bad, there are long lines, etc. is just spouting off propaganda against that type of system they have heard here- because I know people in Canada, they have never heard of or seen this. When they need medical care, they get equal quality care in much the same timeframe as we do here- no lines, no long waits. And it's free. I make decent money and have a great health insurance plan, but I'd gladly pay higher taxes for a free universal health care system- it's far, far better for a country to spend money on keeping its citizens taken care of than to waste it on blowing 3rd world nations off the map in war. We are the laughing stock of the world- trust me, I have travelled to several other countries in several parts of the world, and it is a fact. We are the richest by far, but we don't care about our citizens, we'd rather dominate the world and rule the world by fear than actually do something to take care of our people. "

Immoral? Think about it! wrote on October 3, 2007 4:56 pm:
" Jahan, bravo for making sense! To all the people that claim that Christians do not impose their beliefs on others...honestly, how can you say that? How can you ignore the fact that missionaries exist? For hundreds, if not thousands of years, Christians have been imposing their views on others and converting them into believing the same beliefs. America is a free country right? We have the freedom of religion which means that we can follow any set of beliefs we want to. If a person is homosexual, it does not mean that they are immoral. The person has a different set of moral standards than you do. That's it. The issue of whether something is moral or not should not be decided by anyone else but the individual. I recently read an article ("Too Controversial for Bookshelves" at www.time.com") about the ten most banned books, and two of them were children's books banned because they talked about the issue of homosexuality. One is called "King and King" and the other "And Tango Makes Three" are about a prince that falls in love with another prince and their marriage that follows, and the other about two male penguins who adopted an abandoned egg (true story). People have a tendency to ban or avoid things that they are inherently intimidated by, or things that are different than the "norm." Some people are scared of change, and I think its these kind of people who say that being homosexual is immoral. I'd like to thank Jahan once again for trying to open some eyes. "