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BY ART HOVEY / Lincoln Journal Star

Monday, Sep 24, 2007 - 11:05:11 am CDT

In the 1970s, when the irascible “Terrible Terry” Carpenter of Scottsbluff was a mover and shaker in the Legislature, the management of the Nebraska State Fair was told to determine the cost of moving the fair closer to Omaha.

Henry Brandt, in the middle of his 25-year tenure as fair manager at the time, never understood the rationale. But the 85-year-old retiree remembers the outcome.

“We put a cost figure together and it scared them to death,” Brandt said. “And they dropped it.”

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Nebraska State Fair Executive Director Barney Cosner shows off the master plan created for State Fair Park in 2000. (Eric Gregory)
Moving the state fair

Members of the 2015 Vision group — and a mayor’s task force — support moving the century-old Nebraska State Fair to 84th Street to make room for University of Nebraska-Lincoln expansion.

Estimated cost: About $78 million, according to the city. Supporters say real estate needs in 84th and Havelock areas could be handled by swapping land NU owns there for about 250 acres at State Fair Park. The 2015 Vision group said its growing membership might be willing to cover 10 percent of costs of new fair buildings.

Who benefits: Moving the fair would open area north and east of Devaney Sports Center for use by UNL and possibly by private developers. Disagreement runs deep about whether the fair would benefit.

Barriers: State Fair Board doesn’t want to move, but members endorsed a legislative study of a change in location to a nonspecific site.

State Fair Park belongs to the state, and the Legislature could override fair board opposition.

This is what state law says: “The state fair shall be held at or near the city of Lincoln in Lancaster County, under the direction and supervision of the State Board of Agriculture, upon the site and tract of land, selected, and now owned by the state for that purpose and known as the state fairgrounds.“

Looks like: Fair officials near Boise, Idaho, are pondering the possible sale of land prized by developers along the Boise River used for Western Idaho Fair.

Probability factor: Low, because of strong opposition from the Fair Board and a lack of money.

The future of the fair: What’s next?

The focus of attention for the future of State Fair Park will shift to the Legislature on Feb. 13.

That’s when the Agriculture Committee is scheduled to hold hearings on two bills offered by Lincoln Sen. Ron Raikes.

One would require the fair to file a new master plan before doing any major construction. The other calls on the university to detail its possible use of the same site and adjoining property.

“It’s just a good time to ask,” Raikes said, “given that this is public property and public money. What are the ways we could use that? And let’s have some sort of ranking, both in terms of feasibility and possibility — and priority.”

Even if one or both bills were adopted, Raikes said, they only produce more detailed information. The Legislature would have to take separate action if its members decided to move the fair.

Keith Olsen, president of the Nebraska Farm Bureau Federation, said the state’s largest farm organization opposes doing that without what he described as an adequate feasibility study.

But consider the door of the state’s largest farm group to be open at least a crack on this issue.

“We’re not comfortable in just saying it should stay where it’s at and that’s the only place they can have it,” Olsen said. “We’d be willing to see bona fide studies and we would consider various options if that would look best for the fair.”

Three decades later, a new generation of movers and shakers wants to move the fair several miles to the east. The 2015 Vision group has its eye on an area along 84th Street adjacent to the Lancaster Event Center.

Contrary to the century-old tradition of cows, carnivals and cotton candy, there’s a hard edge to the debate over turning the 251-acre fairgrounds into a technology showplace for the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

“We are instructed by statute to operate and manage the state fair at State Fair Park,” said fair board member Tam Allan of Lincoln, “and that’s what we intend to do.”

Allan recently cast one of 10 fair board votes in favor of keeping the fair where it is and foregoing a move expected to cost somebody $75 million or more.

Dick Campbell, a member of the Vision group, said he’s disappointed fair leadership isn’t open to further examining what is only a concept.

“What’s so worrying about taking a look at options? Why so fearful?” Campbell asked.

He acknowledged “a lot of history with the existing grounds, and I’m very conscious of that history and very aware of that history.”

“I guess my question, though — is there a better economic model and a better mousetrap that we can create by co-locating the facilities?”

He speaks of “a top-notch ag exposition center” and a chance “to create a celebration for agriculture” for the county and the state.

Allan doesn’t feel much like celebrating suggestions the fair board take on $40 million to $50 million in bond financing to cover much of the cost of moving.

“Being buried under that amount of debt isn’t going to make us a bigger or better fair,” he said.

“Putting that amount of debt on the fair would, in our opinion, kill the fair.”

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The case for possible co-location of the fair and Event Center wouldn’t even be in the cards without past pivotal decisions.

The Event Center is where it is now because the county fair and county horse enthusiasts left State Fair Park as a result of a 1990s deadlock.

It happened after state fair officials decided to let the Lincoln Stars and hockey fans occupy the Coliseum, a venue for horse shows, and after the state and county couldn’t agree on who would control a possible replacement building for horse events.

Matters might not have gotten this far either if Nebraska voters hadn’t bailed the fair out of approaching financial ruin in 2004.

Passage of Amendment 4 routed about $2 million per year in lottery proceeds to the fair. It also required the host community to provide a 10 percent match to each year’s lottery revenue.

Voters responded after the amendment’s promoters billed it as a way to repair and renovate deteriorating buildings and grounds.

These events, almost 10 years apart, color attitudes now about co-location.

Why should the fair be the one to move to re-establish what had become an unhappy relationship?

And how can the fair contradict the promise it gave voters to fix up the fairgrounds?

According to Allan, it can’t and it won’t.

“Amendment 4 was a referendum on the future of the state fair,” he said. “It was an overwhelming vote in favor of that. And we take that as an endorsement of what we’re trying to do at the historic fairgrounds.”

Campbell, however, came away with a different message when he and other members of the Mayor’s Event Center Task Force examined State Fair Park as the possible co-location site.

Up to that point, it seemed “a no-brainer” to him, as task force chairman, and to others that the fairgrounds would be the choice.

But he said the tour group found the infrastructure “in a very sad state of repairs. And it would need a tremendous amount of work.”

Furthermore, when task force members looked at the most recent master plan for the fairgrounds, they noticed the number of buildings targeted for demolition.

“If that master plan is viable,” Campbell said, “and they’re tearing everything down and building all new, should we be looking at if there’s a better way to do this — and what the fair should look like in 20 years?”

Barney Cosner, named fair manager last year, said Campbell is overstating demolition plans, although Cosner did not provide details.

“You don’t survive at a spot for 101 years without some solid basics here,” he said, “and I think the basics are here.”

But when decision time came in late 2006, the task force favored Event Center facilities that were only about five years old.

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Closely tied to recent fair history are other relevant questions.

How much is State Fair Park used between fairs?

How much is the Lancaster Event Center used five years after it opened?

Is moving the state fair an underhanded way of propping up an event center that has mostly dirt floors, a history of management problems and an annual dependence on local taxpayers of almost $800,000?

Back at State Fair Park, are such venerable but decaying buildings as the 90-year-old Industrial Arts Building and the 76-year-old 4-H Youth Complex functional enough to be worth air conditioning and other investments that could surpass $5 million each?

Cosner brushed aside questions about utilization.

He said the grounds logged 904 event days last year for horse-racing and other happenings before and after the fair.

An event day is four hours or longer when space is rented or otherwise occupied under the fair board’s control.

He cited Jan. 6, for example, when there were two basketball games at the Bob Devaney Sports Complex, a hockey match “and a huge Christmas party all at the same time.”

“And those kinds of things happen pretty frequently out here. And I don’t think the outside world pays enough attention to know how much of that stuff does go on.”

Cosner also pointed to a recent decision to retain a Des Moines, Iowa, consultant to do at least a preliminary study of repairs at the Industrial Arts Building and 4-H Youth Complex.

“Those are the two historical buildings,” he said, “part of the heartbeat, part of the center of State Fair Park.”

Meanwhile, Ron Snover, managing director at an event center targeted for a $15 million expansion, cited recent annual profits of about $100,000 per year there and made a similar case about utilization.

“It looks like we lost one show from last year,” Snover said, “but it looks like we’re gaining close to 20 new shows for this year, so we’re way up. We’re almost out of room.”

Among the new additions are a three-year contract to host the seven-state Interstate Rodeo Association, two more Lincoln proms and, for the first time, go-cart racing.

Back at State Fair Park, it could be argued basketball at Devaney and hockey at the Coliseum — now called the Ice Box — would go on with either a state fair or UNL presence.

But Campbell comes back to the point about plans for tearing down buildings at State Fair Park.

“That starts raising a question in my own mind. Is there a higher and better use for this ground?”

Reach Art Hovey at (402) 523-4949 or ahovey@alltel.net.


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Yes wrote on January 27, 2007 1:54 pm:
" Yes move the fair to 84th! "

No wrote on January 27, 2007 2:49 pm:
" No, leave the fair where it is! "

clint wrote on January 27, 2007 3:07 pm:
" why not centralize for it everyone instead moving the thing farther east. Who knows you might even get more peole from the other sections of the state to go. Instead of making it harder for people to get to. Do the math. "

Why Worry wrote on January 27, 2007 8:32 pm:
" Fahey has plans to annex it in his Masterplan for the future of Omaha, "

Reggie wrote on January 27, 2007 8:44 pm:
" So much talk by "leaders" who should know better than to advise on matters outside of their expertise. Professionals iike Mark Shapiro AND Brian Jenkins might have some advice for this strange ad hoc group. Getting outside professionals into the mix might be prudent and justified,. Ownership and operation of regional theme, amusement, and water parks in North America gives credibility to the Six Flags guys, more than we can say about the manipulators we sense in V-2015. "

Craig from Lincoln wrote on January 27, 2007 9:56 pm:
" Move the state fair to Grand Island and combine it with the Husker Harvest Days. Make it a REAL state fair like Iowa has always had. Nebraska started this way and pushed out Agriculture for the most part and now can't seem to figure out why they're losing money while Husker Harvest Days are booming. Here's your clue people. "

Brandon wrote on January 27, 2007 11:22 pm:
" It doesn't make sense to move the state fair away from the majority of the state's population. "

jk wrote on January 28, 2007 1:04 am:
" I'm sorry Reggie- but six flags isn't a good example. They just put up 6 parks (ironicly) for sale. And don't put too much stock in outside consultants or outside professionals anyway. Remember that at the end of the day, the advice they give, whether it is right or wrong, will still get paid. I think most of us would be willing to work(?) under those same parameters. These local leaders care enough to be put under the scrutiny from the citizens from now until the grave. "

Keep wrote on January 28, 2007 4:29 am:
" The fair where it is. Moving it would cost the state milions which we do not have either to the 84th st or Grand Island locations. My taxes are already too high. It is cheaper to pay for the repairs to the buildings and infrastructure upgrades. Dont't forget, the fair actually made money last year. With good leadership, it will continue to be profitable where it currently is. "

Susan wrote on January 28, 2007 8:58 am:
" Mortuary science has professionals guding clieints to the grave locally and across the states. Demographics shouldn't be ignore, and there is a limited, if not decling, trend in Nebraska. Cradle to grave locals have created the present situation, they lack credibility at many levels. Look at the present conditions to see the 2015 group carrying on the blood line and limitations of the past. "

Bernard wrote on January 28, 2007 9:40 am:
" Change can be good. And it doesn't always suggest failure as "jk" implies. GE may have a plastics unit/business for sale, Conagra might sell buildings it used to make tortillas or consolidate popcorn facilities, Pfizer might determine a packaging line in Lincoln is not in its vision; and we should know mutual fund managers tend to turn-sell positions much more frequently than Warren Buffett. Outside perspectives keep companies like Microsoft always looking for new ideas, Intel recruits engineers and other employees from around the globe...seeking the finest for growth...and they are paid for the wealth of experience and knowledge "outside the box". Isolationism is a choice. "

Nate wrote on January 28, 2007 10:34 am:
" I see allot of different visions here. Some are more like playing checkers than playing chess. Others might dive into World of Warcraft. The differences all have strategy, the playing field differs quite a bit. "

Bubba wrote on January 28, 2007 10:59 am:
" Are both sides looking at consumer or market driven data? It would seem there may be some pipe dreams or conclusions based on factors of personal motive for economic gain. Let the public be led by good intelligence and relevant facts, not distortions that may compromise integrity of heritage and tradition. "

Bean Farmer wrote on January 28, 2007 11:16 am:
" How many of those "Vision Guys" even enjoy the fair? How many of them are participating in Davos "07"? Has anyone proposed hosting a 2015 World Ag Fair in Lincoln? How will past and future be reconciled if leaders aren't seeking common initiatives? "

State Fair and Technology Park wrote on January 28, 2007 11:54 am:
" The university and the local civic leaders haven't come through on the promise of research and development happing at the Technology Park up in the Highlands. Why would anyone believe that it would happen at the state fair grounds? Why is it that the university has about the same number of students as when I attended in the early '80's, but they have all these extra buildings, dorms, and property? The tuition has gone up and professors do less teaching. I would like to see a report from the university on what has been developed in the existing structure that would justify the added investment. "

Former Lincolnite wrote on January 28, 2007 12:09 pm:
" Does anyone in Lincoln want to see the city better itself? The 2015 Vision group is trying to make Lincoln a place where young people will have opportunities. Expanding the research facilities at UNL is a way to do this. If the fair is moved it will make Lincoln a much better place to live and the fair would have a new modern location. Who would have an issue with that? Lincoln needs to stop listening to its closed minded citizens and take action! "

Fair and Substance wrote on January 28, 2007 12:12 pm:
" What is the vision of a fair and fairgrounds? Is it limited to two weeks a year or can it be a year round fair business? While the State Fair and County fairs have played an importnat part of the discussion, Fairs are as important as conventions, take the Dijon Internatiomal Food (and wine) Fair , the west coast or Wisconsin Renaissance Faires; The Ebony or fashion fair of Australia; or the many different fairgrounds throughout the Cowboy State, Wyoming. A broad range of fair opportunities exist and may make good sense to be an ally with a convention center...not separated by the long drive across the city...maybe even the Haymarket area could find a new look if year long menu of fairs were brought downtown access. annually. An auto fair, a technology fair, a North-South American fair, a game fair...... "

Pragmatist wrote on January 28, 2007 2:31 pm:
" The fair simply cannot sustain itself anymore. As a taxpayer, I'm tired of footing the bill for a product too few people want to attend. It is a waste of money, a huge waste of money. We Nebraskans did an monumentally stupid thing when Amendment 4 passed. We took 2 million away from EDUCATION and other worthwhile causes to pay for a fair no one wants to attend. The fairgrounds are a thing of the past, let it go. "

Steve wrote on January 28, 2007 2:56 pm:
" How about putting a new city arena and a privit convention center on the Fair Ground. Would be a way to bring activity to the grounds year round, Also since these would be none fair owned facilities they would/should have to pay the fair a lease on the ground used and therefore incresse revenue to the fair. "

bob wrote on January 28, 2007 4:29 pm:
" If you let UNL run more of the town, you will just become more of a college town. I would love to see Lincoln prosper, but this is not the solution. UNL can always build west, out by Haymarket Park, if they so choose. They do not have to have the state fair park. If Lincoln truly wants to take agriculture out of its limits, you will have to take the railroad terminals out also. Keep the state fair where it is and come up with REAL SOLUTUIONS that will benefit Lincoln. "

RW wrote on January 28, 2007 6:32 pm:
" Move the giant leech to 84th, let it die a slow death out there without taking up valuable property in the middle of the city that could be used year round in a profitable way. "

whatever wrote on January 28, 2007 8:22 pm:
" Pragmatist has a good point, we took 2 million away from education, perhaps we should take the 2 million back from the fair and educate people on how stupid and immoral lotteries are. Lotteries are STUPID and they are IMMORAL period end of discussion. On a lighter note, it will be fun to watch the "Battle of the Fairgrounds" this will not be an easy fight, nor will it be quick. Lincoln is a long way from moving the fair, getting an events center, enhancing UNL and "redeveloping" downtown. You folks in Lincoln should look at yourselves. You bicker, fight and point fingers. The Lincoln legislative delegation has alienated itself from most of the state, businesses are leaving in droves, your city leadership is non-existant, your infrastructure is decaying, sales tax revenue is declining while it increases in other areas of the state, your tax burden is high, property over valued, your city employees are overpaid.. The list goes on forever. The rest of the state is making some real strides in development like Omaha and even smaller cities like Columbus and Grand Island, yet Lincoln stagnates. I know you folks think you are the center of the universe as far as Nebraska goes, but you aren't anymore and haven't been for a long time. Omaha and the rest of the state will make Lincoln irrelevent soon. Wake up and get yourself together. You haven't a clue. "

Donnie wrote on January 28, 2007 9:20 pm:
" What a joke...The state fair area is a ugly ugly eye-sore. Im tired of parking in a hog barn when attending a husker game at the Devaney Center. State fair is a waste of tax-payer money. "

western nebraska wrote on February 1, 2007 4:36 pm:
" I agree with clint, has anyone every thought of moving the state fair further west. If you have to move it, put it in central nebraska so us from the western end of the state can have an easer chance to enjoy it or for that matter bring livestock to it. Our kids are usually at a huge disadvantage when you haul livestock 400 miles and to such a climate change. The state of nebraska reaches further than just west O street. "

Ken wrote on February 4, 2007 11:57 pm:
" Why don't we work with Iowa officials more to have a better state fair? "

Lincoln dweller wrote on February 5, 2007 11:47 pm:
" I agree move the State Fair to central Nebraska. Grand Island or Kearney would make a great host. Make an agreement with the University that for use of a portion of the land they will financially support the convention center that is in the cities vision. Oh yea, perhaps they can do something about the stink coming from Salt Creek in that same location. "

Jim wrote on February 12, 2007 7:22 pm:
" Once again UNL and the City of Lincoln want to do away with tradition and history. The excuse UNL gives for wanting to relocate State Fair Park is the silliest thing I have ever heard. It will take 70+ millon to move the State Fair, stop and think about that! Is it worth 70+ millon to tax payers in this state to give UNL this land and do away with the history and tradition of the State fair. Take a drive around UNL city campus and look at the neighborhoods that UNL claim are so full of tradition and vibrant, what crock! Granted there are a few families that have lived in the area for many years but most are rental houses in poor condition. If you aren't in favor of ripping down houses then take a short drive to the west of I-180 by Haymarket Park, WOW look at all that space with nothing on it! To think that UNL expansion to the west is stopped by I-180 is crazy. There is already a road under I-180 so another bridge and extending the road sure seems cheaper then 70+ millon to me. Take off the blinders for a minute, relocating the State Fair to 84th street is not the solution. If Lincoln and UNL have such a problem with the State Fair maybe it should be moved but not to 84th Street but maybe to Grand Island, Columbus, Kearney or Norfolk. I will gladly drive to a city that really wants the fair and the money my family and friends spend in lodging, meals and shopping while we attend the STATE FAIR. I will also be more then happy not to take my 3 children for walks through UNL city campus when were not coming to Lincoln for the State fair, then they won't have nearly the desire to attend UNL and I won't have to send their tuition money to UNL. Maybe UNL and V2015 should take off the blinders and look at the bigger picture. "

Rhonda wrote on February 12, 2007 11:00 pm:
" State Fair park is owned by the state not the city of Lincoln or UNL, the voters of Nebraska said loud and clear they wanted to provide for the fair. In my opinion moving the State fair would make it just another plain ordinary fair that you can find in any county across Nebraska. Listen to the voters from the entire state and leave the STATE FAIR alone, it belongs to the entire state not just Lincoln and sure as heck not UNL! Hey UNL can you say West Campus, have some vision like they did when East campus was established. When it comes to moving the fair don't just stop with the 84th street plan lets look at moving it to a place where they actually want it and will respect it, Grand Island or Kearney, I am sure they would like to have the 70 millon to rebuild it, plus the revenue that the fair creates in shopping and lodging dollars. Open your eyes Lincoln before we lose another good thing in this town for the sake of progress. "

steve wrote on February 21, 2007 12:52 am:
" Fact of the matter is, the Lancaster county fair used to use the facilities of the State Fair. That is until both boards couldn't get along. So Lancaster co. went and spent millions of Lincolns money to create a new complex. Both of these facilities should be in the same place and it should be state fair park. The Lancaster Board should be held accountable for the 50 million dollar waste of funds. "

J wrote on February 22, 2007 7:14 am:
" Move the fair...what a big mistake.. the fair is big business. The Event Center...gross revenue...let's see under $1,000,000.00.. net profit...$100,000.00. You might say the event center is busy...but with that little bit of revenue are they giving the place away?? Just look at their books...see who gets the deals...bet it has 4 legs..Lincoln wake up. "

Let it Go! wrote on February 27, 2007 11:51 am:
" It's my understanding that the Governor has vetoed this idea. What in the world is wrong with the 2015 committee? Apparently they are so arrogant that they feel they are above the law. Leave the fair alone. If the university really needs space, let them annex the land from 17th & Vine to 27th and vine! The Governor and the majority of people said a resounding "no!" Get a life. "

why a state fair wrote on March 17, 2007 1:26 am:
" for all the $ u can put into the state fair u could make a theme park,there is !!no!! tourists attractions here, if we had a large theme park between lincoln and omaha it would bring tons of jobs, tourists, it would bring in money,and it would be somethin to do during the summer with family and friends.....the park should also have ROLLER COASTER =] "

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