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By NANCY HICKS / Lincoln Journal Star

Monday, Feb 12, 2007 - 06:25:22 pm CST

Supporters of a bill that would allow Nebraska residents to get a driving privilege card even if they are illegal residents, said the issue is public safety, not immigration.

But opponents, including several legal immigrants, believe the issue is immigration and laws should be followed.

Ivonne Jones, a legal immigrant from Brazil, said she can understand the desire to come here for opportunities and a better life, but “sneaking across the border is wrong.”

“It’s unfair for those who have waited for years to come into the country and have to go through the process,” to then give illegal immigrants the “gift” of the driving card, she said.

Senators are committing an “act of treason” if they pass a bill that lets residents get a type of driver’s license without using a Social Security card, said Susan Smith, an opponent of the bill.

It is an attempt to subvert the federal immigration act, Smith told senators on the Legislature’s Transportation and Telecommunications Committee during a three-hour hearing Monday.

“No one made it easier for me,” said Margit Payne of Valparaiso, another first-generation immigrant from Germany, who said she had to learn English before she could get a driver’s license or get a decent job.

“They already have done wrong,” she said. “They already came under the fence or over the fence,” while she waited her time to get into the country. “Why don’t they have to go by the same rules as all the other nations,” she asked.

But supporters downplayed immigration, which they said is a federal issue.

The Nebraska issue is public safety, said Sen. Ray Aguilar of Grand Island, sponsor of LB266.

People who want a driving privilege card will be required to pass the driver’s test and are more likely to insure their vehicle, he said. And he asked senators to sort through the emotion and deal with the “daily reality of residents of our state.”

An illegal immigrant who now lives in Omaha said he came to this country 13 years ago “to make a better life for my family.” People who need driver’s licenses are working, are going to church and they want to be part of the solution, said Luis Ortiz Rosales.

Because he can’t get a driver’s licenses, he also can’t get insurance for his car, he told senators.

When asked why he didn’t become a citizen, Rosales said, “There is no way I can do that. It’s no choice for me.”

Many undocumented immigrants who got driver’s licenses before the law changed in 2003 requiring Social Security cards, are coming up for license renewals, said Omaha insurance agent John Barrientos.

“We have people who want to follow the law. Yes, they broke the law to come here. There are people without documents. If there wasn’t, we wouldn’t have many people working in the packing houses,” he said.

And until the country changes its immigration law and allows people to immigrate here legally without paying tens of thousands of dollars, we are always going to have this problem, Barrientos said.

Aguilar has said he doesn’t expect the measure to gain passage but he wants the issue to be discussed.

Reach Nancy Hicks at 473-7250 or nhicks@journalstar.com.


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ET wrote on February 12, 2007 7:04 pm:
" Public Safety? That is true. These people being here illegally is a public safety issue. Yes, that is correct. Now, let's quit sneaking AMNESTY in through the back door, and solve the problem, instead of finding ways to keep making more wrongs to ......make more wrongs. I can't believe the hypocrisy...saying that these people broke laws, but now want to follow them? WOW, we can sure rationalize away anything, can't we? "

Sopa de Dia wrote on February 12, 2007 7:18 pm:
" Assimilate the illegal, promote breaking of the rule of law....what is the problem in amnesty for criminals? "

Comm UnSense wrote on February 12, 2007 7:45 pm:
" I hope GI is happy with Mr. Aguilar. They can have him. Hopefully some common sense will prevail and we won't give away the farm to the illegal aliens. An illegal alien testifies before a room full of law makers, and there are no consequences? He should have been on the next thing smokin' heading south. "

Lloyd Gowin wrote on February 12, 2007 8:04 pm:
" Rape is a crime.Robbery is a crime.Murder of bank workers is a crime. Unlawful entry into the country is a crime. Why do illegal entrants need a driver's license. They need to approach the border and go back where they came from. And have a permanent ban against their return. Who's side is the Senator on? The laws in Mexico would not deal out that kind of crime nor it's the permissiveness. Senators need to obey the law. They are not paid or elected to office to subvert the law. The Senator should be the first to say "Ship him out" "

bill wrote on February 12, 2007 8:08 pm:
" instead of offering them a driving card, why not pass a law that makes it illegal to buy a car without a drivers license. this would help deter drivers with suspended or revoked licenses. if they can't buy the car - they don't have to worry about insurance. if someone buys them a car, they should be charged right along with the illegal immigrant. BOTTOM LINE: they are here illegally! They want to drive, they want rights, then do it LEGALLY! If they can't afford to come here, then get a sponsor. "

Joe wrote on February 12, 2007 8:42 pm:
" This is just ridiculous BS! Yeah so they pay for insurance for a month to get their plates then drop it, if I or anybody else gets in an accident with one of these illegals who doesn't have insurance then Mr. Aguilar and the other supporters should be held totally financially responsible for any medical bills and any bills to fix or replace the vehicle, allow that to happen and then see how much of a good idea they think it is then! "

One Out In The Third wrote on February 12, 2007 8:58 pm:
" There are already laws in place in Nebraska that allow foreign nationals that are here LEGALLY to drive and insure their vehicles LEGALLY in our state. What does Senator Aguilar not understand about the words "ILLEGAL" and "alien?" Senator...If you want a discussion...do it on your own time...there are many more important issues facing the LEGAL citizens of Nebraska that require the attention of you and the Unicameral...a couple being the reduction of taxes and state spending. "

Why wrote on February 12, 2007 9:52 pm:
" And why can't Rosales become a citizen? Just because he said he can't, we should take that as an answer? What if this law passes, he says he can't get insurance "it's no choice for me". Do we accept that as an answer too and let him get away with that? "

TeeCee wrote on February 12, 2007 10:07 pm:
" This is a HUGE slap in the face to those who have worked so very hard to become legal citizens in our country...those who respect and love our country and would fight for it. Also - I feel that the Senator's job is to protect us...not aid felons. I think they should all be fined that are in support of this law for aiding known criminals. "

SL wrote on February 12, 2007 10:31 pm:
" "Are more likely to insure their vehicle", I hope so, but who pays if they are not insured? "We have people who want to follow the law. Yes, they broke the law to come here. There are people without documents. If there wasn’t, we wouldn’t have many people working in the packing houses” and who pays to extradite them if they are illegal and caught working without the proper papers? "

Bah wrote on February 13, 2007 7:55 am:
" "If we didn't have illegals in packing houses, we wouldn't have people working there" - that's baloney. Ask my neighbors and friends who work in one of those plants! Wages were higher before the influx of cheap, illegal labor. Bring in the legal immigrants - send home those that are breaking the law. "

Julie wrote on February 13, 2007 8:04 am:
" I love all the comments and I agree with all of them. They are illegal. Don't change a law to suit them. Keep it legal...always. I pay taxes and and I work 40 hours a weeks. If these illegals are here working, how do they pay taxes with no social. We have people defending them with our tax dollars. Illegals go home. and do it the right way . Fill out the papers and come back to our great country. "

Idea wrote on February 13, 2007 10:09 am:
" So we give them the driving cards...if they get pulled over and the cop finds out they are illegal, can the cop then detain them for violating federal law? The reason it takes so long for the legal immigrants to get their applications processed is because we have to waste so much money on enforcement and detainment. I have no sympathy for those here illegally when we have thousands wanting to do it right that cannot get in. "

BarbV wrote on February 13, 2007 11:06 am:
" What is to prevent a person who has lost his/her driver's license for some reason to apply under a fake name for another license - saying they don't have a SS#. There are about 50,000 Irish illegal aliens and a large number from Eastern Europe, so it is not just hispanics. BTW did you guys know that India [ranks 12th in Gross National Product] has completed a 3000km fence at one border and is constructing a longer fence on the other border? This "developing" country takes the integrity of their borders more seriously than "the most powerful nation in the world". Not only do they spend $$ on the fence, but it is a VERY serious fence -- double row, topped with razor wire and land mines in between. "

Of Irish Heritage wrote on February 13, 2007 12:43 pm:
" There may be 50,000 irish illegals and hundreds of thousands from other nations, but nothing can compare to the millions and millions coming across our southern borders. At least the Irish had enough sense to NOT stand in the streets with the flags of their nation and make racists comments and put down the United States like those from Mexico and Latin America did last May. Didn't see any Irish illegals demanding their rights "

sam wrote on February 13, 2007 1:16 pm:
" let's make the nebraska state language spanish and just invite all of the us illegals to come and be legal to take money as well from those of us who have to work pay taxes and into soc. sec. which they also get as well as giving them unemployment benefits viva illegals take over "

Justice for all wrote on February 13, 2007 5:04 pm:
" "I guess we can all see were Aguilar loyalties lying. Wants to take away business owners right on how to run his business, and give right to people that shouldn't be here in the first place. Real American of you Ray." "

Joe wrote on February 13, 2007 11:50 pm:
" A bunch of false moralists, all of us are related to some sort of immigrants, legal or not. Actually part of America is land that once were part of another country. It's not because your ancestors entered US legally that they are better than those illegals. There are thousands of "illegals" that entered in US through the borders legally, staying here longer than supposed and becoming illegals after that, just because they got DL legally doesn't mean they are better than the others. "

Joe wrote on February 14, 2007 12:02 am:
" Just talking about breaking the law. How many of you guys drunk while underage? Smoke while underage, not to mention the ones that use drugs... ops you broke the law... WHat should we do with you guys??? "

atreides wrote on February 14, 2007 1:46 pm:
" Ivone did you know how hard is to get a Visa and get here legaly? You must understand, some people don't have the luck you have to come here legaly. "

Filipe Augusto wrote on February 24, 2007 2:46 pm:
" They must go home, they are breaking the rule of law. US is not a charity foundation. "

IBMMuseum wrote on August 23, 2007 10:18 am:
" Ok, current Nebraska law says if no Social Security card, then no driver's license... My wife has legally been admitted to the United States (yes, we waited years) under a visa that does not provide work authorization (and thus no Social Security number)... She is here legally... We did it the "right" way... She has never broken a U.S. law... She can't get a driver's license if we lived in Nebraska?... How does that make sense to punish those that follow the laws?... "

Mongo wrote on August 23, 2007 11:08 am:
" I need to understand something. Why every time there is a hint of some legislation remotely favorable to illegal immigrants there is a ball of bile in comments? With what moral authority are we immediately compared with rapist, murderers, etc? If Nebraska wants to give its undocumented population a chance to drive legally, I say good for them. They are driving anyway, only uninsured and in fear. Your logic is flawed. Any piece of legislation whatsoever that does not mean kick us out is amnesty? That is intellectually dishonest.
We can not get a sponsor. Under current law, it is impossible to regularize your situation nce you are out of status. No matter who is willing to "sponsor" you.
An undocumented person is not a felon.
I am sorry but I do not believe your sudden concern for the people waiting in line to immigrate to the US legally. And how does preventing the undocumented people of Nebraska to drive with insurance helps future legal immigrants?
You say Hispanics are not the only thing in your mind, but take ideas from India war zones to put land mines in the border? Please, get serious.
Undocumented workers do pay social security, but unlike you, they can never collect anything.
People, stop hating for a second and think. "

Charity wrote on August 27, 2007 12:11 pm:
" I have to agree with IBMMuseum ! and Mongo.. I think everyone should have a license and insurance..I would hate to be in an accident with someone that couldnt get insurance (because of not having a license) ..I guess Im going to keep paying extra just to have uninsured motorist insurance because the state wont let some people get a license to get insurance..I think it would be great if everyone could get insurance.. "