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By MARK MAHONEY / Lincoln Journal Star

Saturday, Jan 27, 2007 - 05:53:00 pm CST

Michael Morris is a sergeant in the Army Reserves.

If he is called to serve in Iraq, he says, he will not go.

“I would refuse the order probably,” Morris said after a Saturday morning anti-war rally at the state Capitol.

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Lincoln residents Justin Kemerling (left) and Michael Baker listen to one of several speeches delivered on the north steps of the Capitol during Saturday's rally organized by the Nebraska Coalition for Peace to protest the war in Iraq. (Gwyneth Roberts)

He was among several hundred people who protested the war in conjunction with a national procession in Washington, D.C.

“I did swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against our enemies, both foreign and domestic,” said Morris, who is from Nebraska City. “... and I would obey the orders of the president of the United States of America.

“But what happens when supporting the Constitution and supporting the president come into a state of contradiction?”

Morris, 23, said he wanted to go to Iraq when the war started, but he changed his point of view this fall when he heard horror stories from his two brothers who were there.

“Some of the things they had to do just were controversial enough for me to start to question what are the reasons we’re over there,” Morris said. “My conscience won’t allow me to fight in that type of a situation for something that is unjustified.”

Protesters braved a cold, blustery morning, playing drums and waving signs with such slogans as  “Bring our troops home.” 

“This war is a mistake,” said Sen. Bill Avery of Lincoln. “Everybody seems to know that but President Bush.”

As a politician, Avery said, he offers no opinion on the war in Iraq, but 32 years as a political science professor at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln helped develop his point of view on international conflicts.

The Bush administration, he said, didn’t use proper foreign policy to deal with Iraq. It did not follow rule-based foreign policy. It did not form international coalitions and it did not listen to other nations’ opinions.

“I believe this war came about because of reckless and very careless disregard for time-tested rules of behavior that have guided American foreign policy for more than 60 years,” Avery said. 

Megan Jackson, 24, of Bassett, said she believes peace, not war, is the answer to problems in Iraq.

“I’m here to facilitate this conversation of peace, to get people to think about peace and not only about ending this war,” she said.

Bishop Ann Sherer of the Nebraska United Methodist Conference said her religion does not approve of war as foreign policy except to prevent genocide, the suppression of human rights and international aggression.

“We insist that the first moral duty of all nations is to resolve by peaceful means every dispute that arises between and among them,” Sherer said.

The crowd stretched for three blocks as it marched from the Capitol to the federal building and on to UNL’s city campus.

“I think we have to make a showing of numbers to get people to pay attention,” said protester Bill Munn of Lincoln, whose brother fought in Vietnam.

“To me, from the beginning, I’ve equated it with the Vietnam thing, because I thought it was totally wrong and we had no business doing it the way we did,” said Munn, 67.

Melissa Illian, who works with the Coalition for Peace and carried a sign saying, “End the war before there are more,” said she thought turnout for the rally was good because of recent political developments in the Iraq war.

“It’s just amazing,” she said. “I think now is the most critical time for people, and they realize that.”

Of all the speakers, Morris drew the most applause.

Morris, who serves with the Second Battalion, 377th Regiment, Second Brigade, 95th Division of the Army Reserves, said he has written a letter to his superiors about his stance on the war.

“They have a duty to inform me of the consequences,” Morris said. “It’s nothing against them. They’re some of the best leaders that I’ve directly been in contact with.

“The soldiers have nothing to do with it. It’s more the position and why were over there in the first place.”

Reach the Journal Star City Desk at 473-7306 or citydesk@journalstar.com


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Trisha wrote on January 27, 2007 6:28 pm:
" probably if you oppose the war, you shouldn't be in the military. "

 what? wrote on January 27, 2007 6:38 pm:
" I would think that disobeying orders could cause him to be discharged with honor. My father hated being a Marine, but he served his time regardless of his feelings and was discharged with honors. Doesn't it make sense that if you didn't want the job, you shouldn't take the job. I understand that this action in Iraq is not what any of us want, but not all of us decided to join the Army.. Seems that he should serve his country as he agreed to do. This country has spent a lot of money training him and probably providing his education. "

 AWOL wrote on January 27, 2007 7:02 pm:
" If he doesn't go and he is ordered to then through him in jail for being AWOL. "

 xusmc wrote on January 27, 2007 7:27 pm:
" last time i checked the military dont give you the option of which orders they will obey, the so called soldier said he changed his mind after talking to his brothers, i wonder if being afraid has something with him changing his mind "

 ConstitutionLover wrote on January 27, 2007 7:46 pm:
" Thanks to all those with the courage to oppose the president's tragic plan to escalate an already-misguided war. Senator Hagel, keep holding Congress' feet to the fire on this issue! "

 Chimpeach wrote on January 27, 2007 8:01 pm:
" Power to the people! What a difference one election makes ... "

 Tim wrote on January 27, 2007 8:08 pm:
" People who enlist cannot quit like a commissioned officer can. The military is like a prison. "

 darren smith wrote on January 27, 2007 8:12 pm:
" He wants to go to iraq, and then he doesn't? He is a coward, plain and simple. He should be discharged, or better yet deployed to iraq and then imprisoned for refusing to go. If am sure he hasn't refused any of the army reserve paychecks or tuition assistance he has gotten since this war began. He is probably just a spoiled kid who is scared now and is trying to find a way out. And by the way, he did enlist in the military. Was he not smart enough to understand that he could be deployed anywhere at any time? You don't get to change the rules in the middle of the game little boy. Myself and thousands of my brothers who were sent to vietnam did not have that option to enlist or not, and yet we carried out our duties because we swore an oath (albeit a forced one) to do just that. Thank you to those soldiers, who unlike Michael Morris, have the honor and integrity to follow through on the promises that they have made. May you all return home safely. "

 Sylvia wrote on January 27, 2007 8:17 pm:
" Thanks for braving the cold to march. I was with you in spirit! I wish we had leaders who knew what it was like to serve abroad, and ones who knew how to use diplomacy and execute war plans, and not just keep extending and extending and extending our service men and women so thin. "

 gerald wrote on January 27, 2007 8:21 pm:
" Although I retired from the military and wanted to retaliate for 911 and I thin afghanistan was the place to go, I never was in favor of Iraq. A lot of other retired military people I talk to think the same. However, if I was in Sgt Morris place I believe I would obey the orders but voice my opinion up the chain of command. Even during vietnam they sometimes called it conscientious objector and served in a non-combat situation. I don't think he realizes the consequence of the refusal. Otherwise I think the american public was hoodwinked into this fiasco. "

 CS wrote on January 27, 2007 8:22 pm:
" Actually, you can refuse an order. It falls on you to prove that it is unlawful, however, and very few of those ever slide. He will probably be tried under the UCMJ and discharged Dishonorably or Other Than Honorable. Its not so simple to say "if you don't want that job, don't sign up." There are many military members serving around the world that aren't in Iraq and thus are not put into a conflict of interest. "

 Nichole wrote on January 27, 2007 8:24 pm:
" I attended the protest, and I have to say, I am certainly glad I did. And I agree, with Trisha-if you oppose the war, you probably shouldn't be in the military. However, selective service skews that option for a lot of citizens. And I disagree with the terms of this agreement. Thus being said, yes I completely oppose the war. And yes, I completely support those who are in the military. I just don't think that this indirect genocide that the Bush administration has so forcefully deemed okay should really be okay. I believe that war is never an answer to anything. It's messy, expensive and only muddles issues up even more. "

 you weren't drafted wrote on January 27, 2007 8:25 pm:
" I write to you as an active duty service member. Many of you do not realize that this young man is already subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. His actions today are reckless and he will have to deal with the consequences. Anyone who urged him on did so selfishly without thought to the fact that he may be destroying his military life. I can assure you that people who handle their affairs in this manner will find no comfort with their peers. Many members of the Armed Services do not agree with the way politicians have handled this war regardless of their party affiliation. Many of the same people that voted in favor of military action now bemoan it. If you think they were lied to then you are oblivious to the fact that information does not come down a stovepipe and these members of Congress new full well what the President was doing. Politicians are merely a reflection of the public they serve- oblivious, uneducated or just plain apathetic until it affects them. If you’re looking to blame someone you need only look in the mirror. As far as I am concerned (and many of my peers agree) all of America is responsible for its current state. However we will continue to serve (99.9% of us) because that is what we VOLUNTEERED to do. "

 Dave wrote on January 27, 2007 8:26 pm:
" Gee most of the guys I was with in Vietnam really did'nt want to go,but we went,and so should you Sgt Morris! "

 Erik wrote on January 27, 2007 8:38 pm:
" A lot of people don't realize that if we get out of Iraq, the insurgents will have more momentum and strike another attack on America. You people make Jane Fonda look good. "

 Make a decision wrote on January 27, 2007 8:45 pm:
" Ooops. I guess joining the military was a mistake. I don't want to do what I agreed to do now...what a punk. "

 ILOVENE wrote on January 27, 2007 8:50 pm:
" Senator Hagel...I am so proud to call myself a Nebraskan...Thank you for speaking out about the war. You have my support and that of my family. We admire you greatly! "

 Go Army wrote on January 27, 2007 9:09 pm:
" 'you weren't drafted' is one wise soldier. Hooaah! Notice how everyone against Pres. Bush never offers an alternative. A bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks. Guess what, if the U.S. does not help the Iraqis I know that the Iranians and Syrians would be glad to take our place. Where would that put us then? Hagel is just positioning himself for a run in 2008. Not to mentioned what has he ever done for Nebraska? I know that I'm not voting for him again either for President or Senator. "

 Ben Thar wrote on January 27, 2007 9:12 pm:
" Once you inlist and swear the oath, you do not have a choice plain and simple! I served and sure as hell did not like some of the orders I was given, but I promiced to carry out the lawfull oders of my superiors and did so. A man's word is his bond, an oath is an oath, plain and simple. All inlisties know that striaght away, those that waffle claim they are following their concience. Bull, they don't have the guts to follow through on their promices, plain and simple. Do your time for being an objecter in jail as a man and don't complain, be a man. Otherwise get out there and do the job you took an oath to do, anything else shows your fellow troops you are what you have proven to be, a bloody coward! A hero is a man who does what he is ordered to do even when he is so scared he shakes in his boots, a coward is a fellow who recants his oath and says the mission is against his beliefs. Gutless, there is no other word for it, you embarass all of the vetern's who died, were wounded, and fought even though scared beyond belief, to live up to the oath they gave their country. Anything else is an abomination. If your word or oath is no good stay away from the rest of us vets, we don't want to be near people like you! "

 Nozzleman wrote on January 27, 2007 9:13 pm:
" If this young man does what he says then he could be tried for desertion. Hope he rotes in prison. I have had a son in law in Iraq and I have had a nephew in Iraq. So far the son in law is fine but the newphew paid a price for serving his country. Jokers like this should rote in prison he is a slap in the face to the over 3000 servicemen and women who have died in iraq and the almost 3000 who died on 9-11. Come on people wake up. "

 mjp wrote on January 27, 2007 9:19 pm:
" It's amazing how black and white people's comments have been. Give this man some slack. All he did was articulate the inner turmoil that he is feeling. He did not commit to any decision yet - just pointed out the moral dilemma he feels he is placed in. This is a feeling that most people who serve have and we owe it to them to at least listen. How easily we all judge. "

 Roger Stiefel wrote on January 27, 2007 9:33 pm:
" Kudos to 'you weren't drafted', and thanks for serving. Soldiers and Citizens alike have been second guessing the politicians as well as the military commanders since the days of the Old Testament. However, We as Citizens have an unconditional duty to support the Soldiers in harms way in every way possible, and the Soldiers in the field have a duty to Obey their commanders immediately and without question. The life of the Soldier is that of a cog in a wheel in a giant Machine. Many times only the Commanders can see the bigger picture and you must do what you are told even when you do not understand it fully. We citizens are depending upon our soldiers to take the fight to the enemy wherever they may be and defeat them so as to prevent them from further harming civilians here in America. If Sgt Morris refuses his duty then he should be Dishonorably discharged. The safety and security of the United States is far too important to waste time arguing with turn-coats in the military. The Military needs to get rid of these types as quickly as possible so as not to be distracted with the task at hand... Slowing down and eventually defeating the enemies of Liberty. "

 proud army wife wrote on January 27, 2007 9:42 pm:
" My husband is an active duty soldier who is currently in Iraq at this moment. He loves his job and fully supports what he is doing. As a spouse, it is my job to give him 110% support. I am proud of what he does. He volunteered to join the military. I just wish people would quit speaking for the military families and soldiers. This punk who doesn't want to serve should be disholorably discharged and soom. I guarantee that I don't want him next to my husband over there watching his back!! "

 Why wrote on January 27, 2007 9:46 pm:
" Why sign up for the reserves if you weren't prepared to defend our country?!?! Idiot. "

 Duh... wrote on January 27, 2007 10:05 pm:
" Damn Liberals... "

 dont forget wrote on January 27, 2007 10:08 pm:
" Senator Hagel votes with President Bush most of the time. He too is partly responsible....Let your soldiers fight to win or bring them home. P.S.- we just now got the go ahead to kill Iranians acting in a military manner. Thats politics in action... "

 Rev. Murry Jay Johnston wrote on January 27, 2007 10:31 pm:
" From what you wrote about Bishop Sherer's comments it sounds like we had good enough reason to go into Iraq. There was genocide. There was suppression of human rights. And there was a history of international agression and the threat of more. Now we are there justly, we need to finish the job. Didn't we learn anything about finishing the job and leaving something better behind from our failure in this regarding Viet Nam. We should also have learned that you cannot condemn the "invaders" and still say we support the troops. After all, they are the ones who went it, stayed in, and are continuing the mission. Let's really support the troops. Give them a chance to succeed without condemnation and political games. Not all United Methodists agree with the Council of Bishops. And our Book of Discipline allows for disagreement on this issue. Whatever we do and say must be done and said with everyone in mind...and in this case I think that the Iraqi people are the ones who are not represented by those who marched today. Neither are the troops who are bringing home stories of wonderful progress and good and kind acts for the Iraqi people who are appreciative of our help. "

 dlb wrote on January 27, 2007 10:32 pm:
" Trisha, he never said he was opposed to go to war, just the illegal conflict we are in today. It is unfortunate, but he will be court martialed and the whole thing will be swept away. As far as 'stopping the fighting in Iraq will bring the battle to America', wow, what an absurde statement. If I am going to have a battle with someone, why would I want to go to their strong hold with a handful of friends (ie the US military) against 1000's and 1000's of times as many of their friends (ie Iraq/Iran/Syria, etc.) Wake up. Let's go back after the people who were really behind 9/11 and are really the ones staging now to attack the US. It isn't the Suni's or Shite's in Iraq. "

 bill w wrote on January 27, 2007 10:41 pm:
" This kid should have a choice of where to serve. Iraq or the stockade at Fort Leavenworth. "

 Billy Bob wrote on January 27, 2007 11:09 pm:
" Go way NORTH , Mr. Morris I'm sure Canada will welcome you with open arms. "

 Gary Evans wrote on January 27, 2007 11:36 pm:
" To Michael Morris: Turn in your stripes. Your attitude is a discrace to those of us who have, do, and will honor the oath that we voluntarily raised our hand and took when we dawned this uniform. How can you tell the world that you are a SGT in the reserves, an appointed troop leader and then say crap like what is printed here. As a soldier, let me make clear that the OPINION stated here is not the view of the entire soldier community. An overwheming majority of us take a lot of pride in our contributions to keeping this nation great. Without this element of defense, the freedom of choice and to speak (even when being an idiot) will be lost. Again, SGT Morris, turn in your stripes. You have no business wearing them. Your words, which the value of is already in question, will put you in Leavenworth as a deserter. Enjoy the choices you have made and the freedom you have to make them. "

 Jr wrote on January 27, 2007 11:50 pm:
" When you are in the military, you have lost your right to think. If they tell you to go to Iraq, you go to Iraq. If your orders are to drop the bomb on a million people, you drop the bomb on a million people. If they say kill babies, you kill babies. The responsibility for deciding what is moral and what is not moral is not a soldier's duty, and for that, the responsibility does not fall on his shoulders for the outcome of that decision. A soldier is neither good nor evil, he is merely of weapon of those that make the decisions. "

 Hollis wrote on January 27, 2007 11:52 pm:
" What a bunch of idiots we have here. In Vietnam they had soldiers who served AND were opposed to the war. By registering as conscientious objectors they were not sent into combat. But if memory serves me correct that status is no longer available. Gee, wonder why that is? As for you fine upstanding citizens criticizing this soldier I would be willing to bet your attitude would change if you or your children were in his shoes. "

 Impeach Avery wrote on January 28, 2007 12:15 am:
" when he came to my doorstep, he said he was pro-war and all for Bush. He is a liar! "

 whatever wrote on January 28, 2007 12:29 am:
" Don't worry about the Iraqi's, it's Iran we need to worry about. If the protests are as widespread as it seems and the crowds are large, well the next step will be ?????? Folks, we aren't leaving Iraq. So here is what we have, a President who refuses to leave Iraq, and a congress that has little power to stop him. We have a civil war in Iraq and an enemy in Iran just biding it's time while it builds up it's military. And in the background Russia and China(i.e. Walmart) watching to see what develops. This is really getting very interesting. By the way, Vietnam was never a threat to our national security and they were always willing to negotiate with us. Iran is a threat to our national security and they have nothing they wish to negotiate with us. And don't buy that crap that the young Iranians are pro-western. "

 Bill wrote on January 28, 2007 12:42 am:
" Considering the military history of his family I cannot believe that they are allowing him to do this. Charge him with AWOL and lock him up in leavenworth. "

 get real wrote on January 28, 2007 12:43 am:
" There is nothing unpatriotic about questioning this war - actually I think it is unpatriotic NOT to question a leader who has been and continues to be reckless with our liberties and freedoms that our brave soldiers have defended in past conflicts. I support our troops who are in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world 100%; at the same time I abhor the mess Bush has created and am thankful for the Congressmen/women, soldiers and civilians who are doing what they can to stop the needless loss of life. Our forefathers challenged misguided leadership and as Americans we must do the same thing. "

 unknown? wrote on January 28, 2007 1:30 am:
" Damn liberals? I am a liberal and I am in Iraq. I am totally against the war. Most of us over here don't want to be here. What is the alternative? I guess letting the terrorist run the world. That ain't gonna happen. Not with us. I don't like violence and war. However this is the job I chose to do. I understand it is my duty and I will stand by and protect and serve along with my other fellow soldiers and marines. This started from 9/11 and are we getting anywhere, I don't think so. We need to have the Iraqi people government pull their weight otherwise we will be here forever. The support for us is great we thank everyone for the prayers and support. I just want a plan. I want the Iraqis to take their country and protect it themselves from terrorist and to get rid of the bad guys. They need our help and they will need it for a while. I believe that now is not the time to pick sides, pro-war and anti-war. We need to push our leadership for them to push the Iraqis and Afghanis to take hold of their countries and protect and keep terrorist out. It must come to an end eventually, right.? "

 WTF wrote on January 28, 2007 3:04 am:
" This damm coward needs out now. The military is for the strong and brave men and women. If his brothers are painting a grusome picture maybe they know he his a coward and don't want the family name to be embarrased. I was out of the military for 14yrs and seen enough on TV and the news and I resigned back up to be here now and I'm glad I did. I can proudly go home and say "Hey I was there and did my part for the FREEDOM I have in the country we live in". We don't want cowards here because just like the proud army wife states they will eventually cause harm to their commrades. They will never have a 360 security and will probably pee their pants on the first Kaboom they (HE) will hear. I'm just so proud being a male and seeing the women here not only stand proudly behind a .50 cal or carry a 240 or SAW on their person. My GOD these are women that suck it up to be proud and stand proud. Calling such as he a wuss isn't even proper. Chicken poop isn't even proper cause when you are fired upon like I and many others here and our vetrans have been gets you scared. But you know what...you suck it up and focus 110% cause not only do your comrades count on you but your family, friends, friends family and the community you are from count on you to go there and fight and come home safe and sound. If you don't come home you have sacrificed your ultimate sacrifice and that is one thing that should've been placed in your narrow little head. So please do your commrades, family,friends, your friends families, and your community and get out now. Go ahead and get that Dishonorable Discharge. Its your life that will suck once that is on your record. Nobody wants a coward so getting a job, loan or anything in life will be of great difficulty and so be it for being a coward. I'm proud for your brothers over here and I'm proud for the women and men that have givin me freedom (vetrans) through out my lifetime and I'm proud to repay with my service here in Iraq SO OTHERS MAY LIVE with the freedom we live for. "

 Big Ed wrote on January 28, 2007 4:14 am:
" Anyone here ever think they could say to their boss, "Yeah, I take a paycheck from you every month, and you're paying for my school, and YES, you also are paying for my IRA, but there's no way I'm going to do what you pay me for because I object to it." This fool signed the dotted line and took an oath. This is tantamount to treason, and I think we should enforce this. Treason is punnishable by death, and if the US government actually went through with this, you wouldn't see too many more of these "conscientious objectors". "

 Court Marshal! wrote on January 28, 2007 4:22 am:
" This criminal should be arrested and tried. After serving a lengthy sentence, he should be dishonorably discharged and kicked out of the Military. The fact that he is theatening to do this should be crime enough. Get him out of my beloved army. "

 SGT. John Morris (one of the brothers) wrote on January 28, 2007 8:14 am:
" You are ALL missing the point. Period. You make unjust accusations when, in reality, you have no grasp of the what the situation really is. How many of YOU are soldiers? Not spouses, not friends, not families... ACTUAL soldiers? I believe that rules out most of you. How many of you have served in Iraq? Not Vietman, not in the Army... ACTUALLY in Iraq? Now, how many are left? Maybe one or two... if that. So, quit commenting like you have any more of a clue what's REALLY going on in Iraq. You don't! Second, IF you have ever been in the military, you know that you have sworn not just to obey the military orders of your superiors... BUT uphold the constitution of the United States. You are SWORN to do BOTH! So, if there's a conflict between the two... which one takes precedence? Wasn't our military established to secure and protect the rights laid out in the Constitution? Why did we establish a military and fight the Revolutionary War? To secure the "inalienable" rights that had been stripped from us? If you can't see the necessity of a solider to uphold the Constitution OVER the orders of his/her superiors, then you might as well just join the terrorists, because you're as detrimental to American peace and way of life as they are! You MUST uphold the constitution FIRST... then obey the orders of your superiors. Period. So, when YOU as an individual soldier, believe the orders of your superiors are violating that Constitution... what do you do? Let me tell you about the options, because I know them all too well... 1) You OBEY. You feel that what you're doing is wrong, but you do it anyway, because you fear the repercussions. You fear the ridicule, you fear the consequences, you fear what your government and your "people" will do to you. 2) You STAND! You stand for what you believe, despite the repercussions. You face your fear and you do what you know is right. Which takes more courage? I know, because I chose #1... and my brother chose #2. Daily, I have people who thank me for what I've done... who say I'm a "hero". When nothing could be farther from the truth. I'm the coward. My brother is the hero. He is the one standing for what he believes in. He is the one standing for YOUR peace. So, by all means, question his actions... question the way he goes about it... question his tactics... that's what a free, democratic society is all about... But, don't you EVER question his courage or his honesty! Maybe, if you questioned the actions of your president as much as you question the actions of my brother, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. SGT John Morris "

 Hjalmer wrote on January 28, 2007 8:39 am:
" This is just a current example of the folly of youth. Why do you suppose any military chooses to recruit young men? Because we are inclined to make foolish, reckless, decisions. It's all about bluster and bravery. Recruiters can talk a 19 year olds into lots of things a 26 year old would reject. That being said, he's probably going to pay a big price for signing that enlistment contract and changing his mind. By the way, a dishonorable discharge beats being dead. Though it won't help him much, his oath to "support and defend the Constituion against all enemies foreign and domestic" is not a blanket pledge to support the President's decisions. Certainly, the military will take a very narrow view of that. Often, doing the morally right thing means paying a price for your convictions. As the truth of this war continues to come out, we'll see more of this. You better get used to it. "

 militarymom wrote on January 28, 2007 8:52 am:
" Hey Big Ed - would you do a job not in your job description when you were hired? Us military job is to defend our own constitution. Should we be expected to defend everyone's and is so where does that end. Big Ed - how about you go to Iraq. AND WTF - There are MANY other ways to stand strong and proud without holding a weapon to do so. Many a coward stand behind a weapon. So careful what you say. "

 WCG wrote on January 28, 2007 8:57 am:
" Whew! Listen to some of these comments! Nothing like getting a little worked up, huh? The fact is, a soldier can - and must - disobey unlawful orders. "Following orders" is no excuse for committing a crime (ask the Nazis at the Nuremburg trials). However, it's also true that soldiers give up some rights that are guaranteed to us civilians. If you join the military, you have little or no control over what happens to you. You may be sent to fight an unjust war, your life may be thrown away by an incompetent leader, you may well be a pawn for some moron's political gain. Those are the facts of military life! You must understand what that means before you sign up. Unfortunately, we can't have a military where every soldier decides for himself where and when to fight. I understand this man's dilemma, and I'm not one who will automatically call him a coward. That's SO easy to say if you're not faced with the same situation. We used to talk about these kinds of things during the Vietnam War - what IS the real duty of an American soldier? Well, we civilians must protest against the Iraq War, but equally, a soldier must - except in very rare circumstances - follow orders. You may not have realized what that really meant when you joined up, because it's not the sort of thing recruiters dwell on. But it's true. And, unfortunately, it's necessary. Speak as you will, but when the time comes, obey the order, please. Don't ruin your life in a misguided attempt to correct America's mistakes. You'll have time for that when you finally become a civilian again. "

 John Morris wrote on January 28, 2007 9:12 am:
" I thought I would add some perspective to this discussion. Here's the actual letter this soldier sent to his command. It details exactly why he did what he did! Here's the link: www.one-luv.com/letter_to_command.htm "

 joe vocht wrote on January 28, 2007 9:37 am:
" Erik, Like so many misinformed people you think the insurgents had something to do with 9-11. They , for the most part are people, like yourself, who are tired of seeing their country demolished for control of their oil...seeing their families destroyed in the process is what drives them to fight back. We would do the same if some group tried to overpower us , kill us,control us etc... when we did nothing to deserve it!! Try thinking before you say things that make no sense! "

 Impeach Bill Avery wrote on January 28, 2007 10:05 am:
" He used to use his professor's chair as a soapbox for leftist liberal causes at UNL. He taught my class that Ronald Reagan had nothing to do with the end of the cold war. And now I see he is using his soapbox again. "

 WCG is wrong wrote on January 28, 2007 10:06 am:
" WCG, didn't this guy VOLUNTEER? I think VOLUNTEERING to do be a solider implies that he WILL do his job, not decide that he doesn't like it. Also you spin very well. Compare what our troops are doing in Iraq to what the Nazis did, when you say a soldier must disobey unlawful orders. An example of an unlawful order our troops are obeying in Iraq is? Also, how is it an unjust war? Didn't nearly everyone in Congress authorize this action? Didn't everyone, including former President Clinton agree that Iraq had WMD's? Don't we all agree that Saddam had used gas to kill millions of his own people? Your attitude is typical of many now. Complain, but offer no new alternatives. However, your comment about this soldier being a pawn for some moron's political gain is a good point. Who is doing the most political grandstanding right now? Democrats. Jane Fonda, Hillary Rodham, John Kerrey, and the rest. BinLaden is right, America is showing it doesn't have the guts to finish this out. We need to remain strong. If the Jane Fonda's of the world had their way, we wouldn't last long. "

 Proud army wife wrote on January 28, 2007 10:08 am:
" I just wanted to bring the attention to everyone that after 9/11 congress and everyone overwhelmingly voted for the war. Sure, there was bad intelligence. But the point is we are there. Does anyone realize what would happen to even more innocent children, not to mention the cost of taking all of our equipment, the soldiers themselves, and just up and leave? What kind of message would that send to other countries?? Just something to think about. And I have to say that I do feel bad for the Morris brother. I hope you realize that what you are doing is your job. And people will still consider you a hero no matter what you think. I just hope you find some peace either way! I wish the media could focus a little more on the good things going on over there. The schools, the hospitals, the people who thank our loved ones for being there. I am not saying it is a bed of roses. I am scared everyday that someone will be knocking on my door to tell me I am a single mother now to four beautiful children. But I would take great comfort and pride in knowing that my husband wants to be there!! And really, if he didn't I don't know what I would think! Just being honest. I just don't think we can blame this mess on one individual person!! "

 miliarysupporter wrote on January 28, 2007 10:43 am:
" I thank God every day for the Americans that are bravely and unselfishly serving our country. They may not be happy to be where they are but they do it! I am very proud to know many veterans of all era's - they do not deserve the shame this boy casts over their legacy. "

 Consequences wrote on January 28, 2007 11:14 am:
" This young man made a serious mistake in judgement. Public statements and promotion of personal agendas will not bode you well when other young men/women have to look up to your for leadership. (same for others in your family coming to your defense). There is a time and place to express your views - this was not the time nor the place. What a shame. "

 Phil wrote on January 28, 2007 12:11 pm:
" These protests and the people who have expressed their opinions seem to live in an alternate universe. Senator Avery... what were you watching on television, in the years that led up to this? Did you not follow the innumerable resolutions from international lip flappers in the UN? Did you not recognize the threats of consequences made time and time again... only to be followed by Saddam thumbing his nose? The UN never follows through. The word of the international community means absolutely nothing. And for the Methodist Bishop. The church condones war only for genocide, human rights violations, and international aggression? The extermination of the Kurds, the torture and rape of Iraqi citizens, and Saddam's constant threat of overrunning his neighbors (Kuwait) seem to satisfy all three of your conditions. Do you have scales over your eyes? Dear God in heaven, what do you make of these people? I am truely mystified, saddened, and utterly depressed by these demonstrations of ignorance. "

 Leave him alone wrote on January 28, 2007 12:27 pm:
" Good for you MMichael! Maybe there's hope for humankind yet. Fight war, not wars! "

 well wrote on January 28, 2007 1:19 pm:
" There is so much disdain of Bush, and Bush many can't see things clearly. But this disdain has been earned. Bush can't articulate what our goal in Iraq is. He can't articulate his plan, if he has one. He claims we are in danger of terrorist attacks, yet he has done nothing to control the Mexican border. He and his Repbulican traitors in Congress for the past 6 years have engaged and endorsed corrupt activity under the guise of conservatism. Bush is incompetent and lacks the skills necessary for President. The Republican Party is corrupt and betrays the American people on a daily basis. This is part of the reason Bush lacks support. When the day comes that the Republican Party is destroyed and new party that believes in freedom, fairness and America emerges, then America can hold it's head high. Until then, we must relentlessly drive the Republican Party into the ground. "

 Aaron wrote on January 28, 2007 1:19 pm:
" Phil, AMEN! I know we didn't find any WMD's, yet. They most likely got moved to Syeria before the liberation. For some reason, these protesters aren't talking about all the mass graves that have been found in iraq, or the rape and torture rooms that have been eliminated. Don't get me wrong, I want our troops to come home as much as anyone. However, if we were to leave now, then Iran would run Iraq into the ground, then Kuwait, then onto the rest of the middle east. Then we might as well learn to speak aribic and give up pork. "

 Joe wrote on January 28, 2007 1:23 pm:
" ARe you telling us that insurgents are justified in their actions? Do you really think they care about families? And furthermore, how do you know how the insurgents feel. Do you know some of them? Do you run a fortune teller parlor in our basement? "

 A DEDICATED SOLDIER wrote on January 28, 2007 1:36 pm:
" MR. JOHN MORRIS, I am a soldier. Mother of 4 children. My husband is also a soldier of 20 years. What your brother did is dishonoring the soldiers, Army, and our government. He should be punished justly. He took an oath, of allegiance and reguardless of what he thinks now, there is no excuse for what he did. This whole situation makes me sick. It is left to the civilians to PUBLICALLY oppose. It is a soldiers job to follow orders and protect and serve our people and government. I firmly believe that this person should be stripped of his uniform from which a real soldier takes pride in wearing. He should also pay back ever dime invested in him thru the United States Army. To include healthcare and training. Last but not least "since he decided he makes his own choices now" he should recieve a dishonorable discharge and go about his civilian life! I would never want him beside me in war anyway! SFC Ross "

 TP wrote on January 28, 2007 1:54 pm:
" Sounds to me like too much college education put this guy on too high of a pedestool. Guess he sould have thought about some possibilities before he signed up. Yeah its nice to have the pay check if all you have to do to toss sand bags or direct traffic etc. Lots of things I didn't like about how management did things at my work but I buttoned my lip and did what I was told to do. When the interstates were pure ice I could have gotten killed too, but I was told to be at work. Things look bad but we don't know the whole story in D.C. Everybody blames Bush but how many congressmen and senators really dug into the situation before they voted for the war??? If you would have studied Bush when he was governor you would have seen how cockey and determined he was. Its always nice to bark after the fact when you don't like things. "

 Semper Fi-USMC 0300 wrote on January 28, 2007 2:04 pm:
" If he refuses an order he should be court martialed.He does not get to choose anymore.He signed the contract...He wasn't forced to.I love how people who have never worn a uniform or served in Iraq are more knowledgeble than those who are there.Those of you who haven't served your right to free speech is given not earned. "

 Where's the War? wrote on January 28, 2007 3:06 pm:
" To the Morris brothers: I read the letter and I can't imagine what it was like to see children be killed, to have orders to kill them and also to see them with guns killing. Unfortunately in war, you can't separate the women and children so you only fight the terrorists. Children grow up to be adults and get killed as adults also. Sounds senseless. If you get discharged, be a voice for all those children we as Americans kill daily through abortions. Watch a video on how abortions on done and take a stand for those who deserve the same rights you want to protect for yourself. "

 mother wrote on January 28, 2007 3:26 pm:
" i can see ur point but my son is over there i hated but im proud of him yes i hope this will end soon so all the soilders can come home to there familys but im am proud of all the soilders "

 steve s wrote on January 28, 2007 3:45 pm:
" I hope he enjoys life behind bars. my son has proudly served in the Army and is over in Iraq for the 3rd time. All those that are protesting are going to be asking why the goverment did not do more when the fighting starts on our own soil. "

 Choices wrote on January 28, 2007 4:28 pm:
" We choose to sign up and if all goes well, we will choose to take the benifits that come from serving and then we will choose to get out and walk around proud. But if something goes wrong, we will run like a coward and have our brother write letters in support of our cowardly ways. Shame, shame, shame - Bad choices! "

 Embarassed Methodist wrote on January 28, 2007 4:45 pm:
" And Bishop Sherer wonders why our denomination is in such severe decline? Because the leadership has taken in with the far-left antiwar movement! The United Methodist Church used to represent true Christian values, like standing up for and defending the oppressed, not what these protestors stand for. "No greater love hath a man than to lay down his life for another". That's what our soldiers are doing: defending the lives of countless Iraqi's who were oppressed. Hopefully our denomination will see more clearly after this incident when choosing new leadership. Until then, we will continue to decline. I am embarassed today to attend a United Methodist Church. "

 Jes wrote on January 28, 2007 5:10 pm:
" This kid needs to be dishonorable discharged. If you aren't willing to do what our country expects you to do then it should be a dishonorable discharge that i hope haunts him for the rest of his life. People like him are pathetic. My brother has been to Iraq twice and he says he would never even think twice about going again. He'd be dressed and ready to go because thats what his country needs him to do at the time. "

 Avery is a liar wrote on January 28, 2007 5:15 pm:
" I have had class with him and he is the utmost leftist professor I have ever come across. I agree with the other student who said he tried to indoctrinate his class. His word means absolutely nothing to me. He lied about his bipartisanship while running for the senate and always tried to justify Clinton's lying to the nation by pointing out lies by Bush. "

 nitemare wrote on January 28, 2007 5:41 pm:
" He kew this was a possibility when he enlisted. Toughen up kid. Do the job you signed up to do. Don't be a quitter. There are too many of these kids out there now days that think they are entitled to everything. Automatically. They don't beleive things are earned. Like respect. Keep mine, and do what you're told to do! "

 nitemare wrote on January 28, 2007 5:49 pm:
" Michael Morris... Jope the vets don't find out your name and hunt you down! You should have kept your mouth shut. Your opinion is yours, and you are entitled to it. Just not right now. If you get orders, then that's what you must do. Or run scared the rest of your life. Be a man. Do what you said you would do. Or yourt word will be no good wherever you go in life. This will follow you forever if you back out now. Cowboy up!!! "

 Douglas Novak wrote on January 28, 2007 6:13 pm:
" The conflict in Iraq could possibly be over by now if not for the support given the opposition by those who don't believe in defending ourselves or confronting evil. Ignorance needs no leader and for that Chuck Hagel is highly qualified. He IS running for President and he does have a strategy. Get in front of a crowd and pretent to be the leader. I am ashamed others think he represents Nebraska and Nebraskans. I expect he should run for President because a second term as a NE Senator is doubtful. "

 Wake Up! wrote on January 28, 2007 7:03 pm:
" Don't you get it! Bush is violating the Law of War. A law that supersedes all orders given by superior officers. Soldiers are REQUIRED to refuse ANY order that violates the law of war. It's really that simple! Wake up! Haven't you read the letter this kid sent to his command? It's all there! He posted it earlier... www.one-luv.com/letter_to_command.htm Read it and wake up! "

 Proud American wrote on January 28, 2007 7:47 pm:
" All I can say is you need to watch the HBO series "The Band of Brothers" I can not be in your shoes, nor, could I judge someone I don't know. But GOD BLESS you in your decision. And I am a proud METHODIST. In war, if your scared say your scared. I would be very scared, and I am still trying to understand, the underlined meaning of all this loss of life we have created. My heart goes out to you along with my blessings. An oath is supposed to be something you believe in, if that belief is no longer there it might be time to change somethings. "

 florida reader wrote on January 28, 2007 8:37 pm:
" whilei disagree with bush's actions and the disgrasce he is bringing our country, i steadfastly support the troops. If this young man refuses to do what he signed up to do, full well knowing of the consequences of enlisting, then he disgraces all the men and women who have died over in iraq, whether just casuse or not. I am a vet and while i disagree with the Presidents policy, I steadfastly and wholeheartedly support the troops. Except for cowardly grandstanders like this fellow. "

 RED/BLONDIE wrote on January 28, 2007 10:01 pm:
" I believe that Pres Bush made a huge mistake as all men in his position do, but be a true man and admit it and bring our YOUNG men and women home. This is genocide on the home front. Our people are being killed by a man that is hungry for attention and greedy for control. BRING OUR PEOPLE HOME. We cannot fix what they are fighting for now and have been for the last 1000 years. I am sick of the bloodshed. Why aren't his daughters enlisted and fighting? BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN HIS CAUSE!!!! This is a war against all humankind not just against us. We aren't even fighting for the right cause! I don't think he even has a cause. I don't feel we live in a democratic country anymore! This is just the beginning of communism in a crude sick form! Wake up President Bush, are you proud of the fact that you are responsible for the many deaths on foreign soil? You need to own up to your mistake, take responsibility for it! With you in office we are not FREE! "

 Jiminy Cricket wrote on January 29, 2007 12:44 am:
" Just because you made a bad decision in the first place does not mean that you can just stop and quit midway. You've already commited, and leaving a job unfinished is not the American way. History will decide whether you were right or wrong, but now is not the time to have second thoughts. Deal with the consequences of your actions AFTER you fulfill your commitments. "

 Hjalmer wrote on January 29, 2007 6:30 am:
" If he's really lost faith in the cause and believes it's an illegal order, take the courts martial. Go for the dishonorable discharge and get on with his life, move out of Nebraska and no one will know or care. Ten years from now, he'll be able to say he stood up for his principles and paid the price. Today, this issue must completely overshadow his life. Twenty years from now, he'll be asking himself why he expended so much energy worrying about this. I'm reminded of the old 60's saying, "What if they gave a war and nobody came?" "

 Heather wrote on January 29, 2007 8:22 am:
" He is a true American Hero! Thank you for standing up in what you believe in. I wish you the best of luck. "

 SPC~H wrote on January 29, 2007 8:40 am:
" I am a SOLDIER and I am in IRAQ! Am I someone that you may want to listen to SGT MORRIS! IF and WHEN you are given a direct order from anyone be it a FOUR STAR GENERAL and it is unlawful and does not follow the Laws of War you can DISOBEY IT!! Where did you go to training!! They may try and give you the dreadful Article 15 but when it goes to military courts, YOU will be the one that can stand and say I WAS CORRECT! We enlisted, Not Drafted! When you raise you hand and you say that Oathe for your State and Country. There is not a place in the Oathe that states that you can change your mind. If he does not want to come over here and see what a difference the USA is making then let him be a Consciences Objector and back out.I dont want him to be by my side and have to protect me when I am in need. I do believe however that if you do back out then you should have to pay back all the extra money you made minus the drill check itself. Let those of us who are MAN/WOMAN enough to stick by our country use those benefits!! "

 wht? wrote on January 29, 2007 9:06 am:
" Are you a soldier or not! My brother is in Iraq and i couldn't be more proud of him. He is SERVING his country and is loyal to the Army whether he even agrees with this war. He has a job to do, period. Press on brave soldiers! the soldiers in Iraq do not like to hear about the rally's back home that are clearly not supporting their efforts, how tragic for our soldiers! "

 Fine by me wrote on January 29, 2007 9:50 am:
" Hey, I understand if you are afraid to serve in Iraq. It is fine that you don't want to go....but stop cashing your checks from the US government if you are not going to do the work. "

 Military Family wrote on January 29, 2007 10:04 am:
" Sgt. John Morris...how dare you diss the veterans and military families by saying we don't have a right to an opinion. Your war experience isn't any more significant than those who servied in conflicts before you and you are ignorant if you think the families aren't involved in this war in a very significant way. How self-centered you are to think you are the only one who "really knows" what the military experience is all about. "

 Marky Mark wrote on January 29, 2007 11:04 am:
" It is indeed a conflict between President & the Constitution of the United States. Im sorry, but the Constitution is much more important than George W Bush. Mr Bush has spit on the Constitution, the Military, and the US Taxpayer. "

 USMC 4421 wrote on January 29, 2007 11:25 am: