" Yes move the fair to 84th! "

" No, leave the fair where it is! "

" why not centralize for it everyone instead moving the thing farther east. Who knows you might even get more peole from the other sections of the state to go. Instead of making it harder for people to get to. Do the math. "

" Fahey has plans to annex it in his Masterplan for the future of Omaha, "

" So much talk by "leaders" who should know better than to advise on matters outside of their expertise. Professionals iike Mark Shapiro AND Brian Jenkins might have some advice for this strange ad hoc group. Getting outside professionals into the mix might be prudent and justified,. Ownership and operation of regional theme, amusement, and water parks in North America gives credibility to the Six Flags guys, more than we can say about the manipulators we sense in V-2015. "

" Move the state fair to Grand Island and combine it with the Husker Harvest Days. Make it a REAL state fair like Iowa has always had. Nebraska started this way and pushed out Agriculture for the most part and now can't seem to figure out why they're losing money while Husker Harvest Days are booming. Here's your clue people. "

" It doesn't make sense to move the state fair away from the majority of the state's population. "

" I'm sorry Reggie- but six flags isn't a good example. They just put up 6 parks (ironicly) for sale. And don't put too much stock in outside consultants or outside professionals anyway. Remember that at the end of the day, the advice they give, whether it is right or wrong, will still get paid. I think most of us would be willing to work(?) under those same parameters. These local leaders care enough to be put under the scrutiny from the citizens from now until the grave. "

" The fair where it is. Moving it would cost the state milions which we do not have either to the 84th st or Grand Island locations. My taxes are already too high. It is cheaper to pay for the repairs to the buildings and infrastructure upgrades. Dont't forget, the fair actually made money last year. With good leadership, it will continue to be profitable where it currently is. "

" Mortuary science has professionals guding clieints to the grave locally and across the states. Demographics shouldn't be ignore, and there is a limited, if not decling, trend in Nebraska. Cradle to grave locals have created the present situation, they lack credibility at many levels. Look at the present conditions to see the 2015 group carrying on the blood line and limitations of the past. "

" Change can be good. And it doesn't always suggest failure as "jk" implies. GE may have a plastics unit/business for sale, Conagra might sell buildings it used to make tortillas or consolidate popcorn facilities, Pfizer might determine a packaging line in Lincoln is not in its vision; and we should know mutual fund managers tend to turn-sell positions much more frequently than Warren Buffett. Outside perspectives keep companies like Microsoft always looking for new ideas, Intel recruits engineers and other employees from around the globe...seeking the finest for growth...and they are paid for the wealth of experience and knowledge "outside the box". Isolationism is a choice. "

" I see allot of different visions here. Some are more like playing checkers than playing chess. Others might dive into World of Warcraft. The differences all have strategy, the playing field differs quite a bit. "

" Are both sides looking at consumer or market driven data? It would seem there may be some pipe dreams or conclusions based on factors of personal motive for economic gain. Let the public be led by good intelligence and relevant facts, not distortions that may compromise integrity of heritage and tradition. "

" How many of those "Vision Guys" even enjoy the fair? How many of them are participating in Davos "07"? Has anyone proposed hosting a 2015 World Ag Fair in Lincoln? How will past and future be reconciled if leaders aren't seeking common initiatives? "

" The university and the local civic leaders haven't come through on the promise of research and development happing at the Technology Park up in the Highlands. Why would anyone believe that it would happen at the state fair grounds? Why is it that the university has about the same number of students as when I attended in the early '80's, but they have all these extra buildings, dorms, and property? The tuition has gone up and professors do less teaching. I would like to see a report from the university on what has been developed in the existing structure that would justify the added investment. "

" Does anyone in Lincoln want to see the city better itself? The 2015 Vision group is trying to make Lincoln a place where young people will have opportunities. Expanding the research facilities at UNL is a way to do this. If the fair is moved it will make Lincoln a much better place to live and the fair would have a new modern location. Who would have an issue with that? Lincoln needs to stop listening to its closed minded citizens and take action! "

" What is the vision of a fair and fairgrounds? Is it limited to two weeks a year or can it be a year round fair business? While the State Fair and County fairs have played an importnat part of the discussion, Fairs are as important as conventions, take the Dijon Internatiomal Food (and wine) Fair , the west coast or Wisconsin Renaissance Faires; The Ebony or fashion fair of Australia; or the many different fairgrounds throughout the Cowboy State, Wyoming. A broad range of fair opportunities exist and may make good sense to be an ally with a convention center...not separated by the long drive across the city...maybe even the Haymarket area could find a new look if year long menu of fairs were brought downtown access. annually. An auto fair, a technology fair, a North-South American fair, a game fair...... "

" The fair simply cannot sustain itself anymore. As a taxpayer, I'm tired of footing the bill for a product too few people want to attend. It is a waste of money, a huge waste of money. We Nebraskans did an monumentally stupid thing when Amendment 4 passed. We took 2 million away from EDUCATION and other worthwhile causes to pay for a fair no one wants to attend. The fairgrounds are a thing of the past, let it go. "

" How about putting a new city arena and a privit convention center on the Fair Ground. Would be a way to bring activity to the grounds year round, Also since these would be none fair owned facilities they would/should have to pay the fair a lease on the ground used and therefore incresse revenue to the fair. "

" If you let UNL run more of the town, you will just become more of a college town. I would love to see Lincoln prosper, but this is not the solution. UNL can always build west, out by Haymarket Park, if they so choose. They do not have to have the state fair park. If Lincoln truly wants to take agriculture out of its limits, you will have to take the railroad terminals out also. Keep the state fair where it is and come up with REAL SOLUTUIONS that will benefit Lincoln. "

" Move the giant leech to 84th, let it die a slow death out there without taking up valuable property in the middle of the city that could be used year round in a profitable way. "

" Pragmatist has a good point, we took 2 million away from education, perhaps we should take the 2 million back from the fair and educate people on how stupid and immoral lotteries are. Lotteries are STUPID and they are IMMORAL period end of discussion. On a lighter note, it will be fun to watch the "Battle of the Fairgrounds" this will not be an easy fight, nor will it be quick. Lincoln is a long way from moving the fair, getting an events center, enhancing UNL and "redeveloping" downtown. You folks in Lincoln should look at yourselves. You bicker, fight and point fingers. The Lincoln legislative delegation has alienated itself from most of the state, businesses are leaving in droves, your city leadership is non-existant, your infrastructure is decaying, sales tax revenue is declining while it increases in other areas of the state, your tax burden is high, property over valued, your city employees are overpaid.. The list goes on forever. The rest of the state is making some real strides in development like Omaha and even smaller cities like Columbus and Grand Island, yet Lincoln stagnates. I know you folks think you are the center of the universe as far as Nebraska goes, but you aren't anymore and haven't been for a long time. Omaha and the rest of the state will make Lincoln irrelevent soon. Wake up and get yourself together. You haven't a clue. "

" What a joke...The state fair area is a ugly ugly eye-sore. Im tired of parking in a hog barn when attending a husker game at the Devaney Center. State fair is a waste of tax-payer money. "

" I agree with clint, has anyone every thought of moving the state fair further west. If you have to move it, put it in central nebraska so us from the western end of the state can have an easer chance to enjoy it or for that matter bring livestock to it. Our kids are usually at a huge disadvantage when you haul livestock 400 miles and to such a climate change. The state of nebraska reaches further than just west O street. "

" Why don't we work with Iowa officials more to have a better state fair? "

" I agree move the State Fair to central Nebraska. Grand Island or Kearney would make a great host. Make an agreement with the University that for use of a portion of the land they will financially support the convention center that is in the cities vision. Oh yea, perhaps they can do something about the stink coming from Salt Creek in that same location. "

" Once again UNL and the City of Lincoln want to do away with tradition and history. The excuse UNL gives for wanting to relocate State Fair Park is the silliest thing I have ever heard. It will take 70+ millon to move the State Fair, stop and think about that! Is it worth 70+ millon to tax payers in this state to give UNL this land and do away with the history and tradition of the State fair. Take a drive around UNL city campus and look at the neighborhoods that UNL claim are so full of tradition and vibrant, what crock! Granted there are a few families that have lived in the area for many years but most are rental houses in poor condition. If you aren't in favor of ripping down houses then take a short drive to the west of I-180 by Haymarket Park, WOW look at all that space with nothing on it! To think that UNL expansion to the west is stopped by I-180 is crazy. There is already a road under I-180 so another bridge and extending the road sure seems cheaper then 70+ millon to me. Take off the blinders for a minute, relocating the State Fair to 84th street is not the solution. If Lincoln and UNL have such a problem with the State Fair maybe it should be moved but not to 84th Street but maybe to Grand Island, Columbus, Kearney or Norfolk. I will gladly drive to a city that really wants the fair and the money my family and friends spend in lodging, meals and shopping while we attend the STATE FAIR. I will also be more then happy not to take my 3 children for walks through UNL city campus when were not coming to Lincoln for the State fair, then they won't have nearly the desire to attend UNL and I won't have to send their tuition money to UNL. Maybe UNL and V2015 should take off the blinders and look at the bigger picture. "

" State Fair park is owned by the state not the city of Lincoln or UNL, the voters of Nebraska said loud and clear they wanted to provide for the fair. In my opinion moving the State fair would make it just another plain ordinary fair that you can find in any county across Nebraska. Listen to the voters from the entire state and leave the STATE FAIR alone, it belongs to the entire state not just Lincoln and sure as heck not UNL! Hey UNL can you say West Campus, have some vision like they did when East campus was established. When it comes to moving the fair don't just stop with the 84th street plan lets look at moving it to a place where they actually want it and will respect it, Grand Island or Kearney, I am sure they would like to have the 70 millon to rebuild it, plus the revenue that the fair creates in shopping and lodging dollars. Open your eyes Lincoln before we lose another good thing in this town for the sake of progress. "

" Fact of the matter is, the Lancaster county fair used to use the facilities of the State Fair. That is until both boards couldn't get along. So Lancaster co. went and spent millions of Lincolns money to create a new complex. Both of these facilities should be in the same place and it should be state fair park. The Lancaster Board should be held accountable for the 50 million dollar waste of funds. "

" Move the fair...what a big mistake.. the fair is big business. The Event Center...gross revenue...let's see under $1,000,000.00.. net profit...$100,000.00. You might say the event center is busy...but with that little bit of revenue are they giving the place away?? Just look at their books...see who gets the deals...bet it has 4 legs..Lincoln wake up. "

" It's my understanding that the Governor has vetoed this idea. What in the world is wrong with the 2015 committee? Apparently they are so arrogant that they feel they are above the law. Leave the fair alone. If the university really needs space, let them annex the land from 17th & Vine to 27th and vine! The Governor and the majority of people said a resounding "no!" Get a life. "

" for all the $ u can put into the state fair u could make a theme park,there is !!no!! tourists attractions here, if we had a large theme park between lincoln and omaha it would bring tons of jobs, tourists, it would bring in money,and it would be somethin to do during the summer with family and friends.....the park should also have ROLLER COASTER =] "