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Wednesday, Oct 04, 2006 - 09:18:14 am CDT

I totally agree with Cristina A. Miller in regard to the downtown bike lanes (letter, Sept. 28).

On Sept. 20, a cyclist in the bike lane on 14th Street tried to turn left onto O Street. My daughter was in the left lane, and the cyclist hit her car. Thank God the cyclist was not seriously injured. She (the cyclist) received a ticket for an illegal turn. My daughter’s car received $2,700 worth of damage.

Because people are not required to carry liability insurance on bicycles, my daughter’s car insurance will have to pay for the damage, with my daughter having to pay the deductible.

Cyclists want all the rights on the city streets that cars have. Shouldn’t they have all the responsibilities as well — liability insurance and wheel tax?    

Teresa Dageforde, Lincoln

After-school traffic safety

What will it take for parents to think about children’s safety when picking up their children at school? I have continually observed cars double-parked, parked in no-parking zones and calling children out into the street during pick-up time at our Lincoln elementary school.  Does it require an accident leading to injury or even death to convince these parents that safety is more important than saving a few minutes of time?

I cringe when I see children running between moving cars, and I wonder what lessons we are teaching our kids outside of school. Is it really OK to ignore the rules when police are not around to enforce them? Double-parking is rude, selfish, dangerous and illegal. It blocks other cars that are stopped in pick-up lanes so they cannot move in and out properly and safely.

There are many alternatives to parking or stopping illegally. Park and walk to school, or have your child walk to your meeting spot. Arrive five minutes after the rush when it is not so congested. Explain the rules to your children, and follow them even if you are in a hurry to get somewhere else.

Saving a child’s life is worth so much more than saving a few minutes’ time. Please, let’s protect our children and teach them safety and to respect the law.

Carol Snow, Walton

Let’s fix ourselves first

It seems to me that each day while reading the opinion page, I read more and more negative thoughts and opinions.

The world is a very scary and  crazy place right now. I have my views on everything, just like everyone else. I get angry, sad, terrified and then angry again. It is amazing how these feelings can overcome us all and reflect on our day-to-day actions.

We have enough negativity right now. Why tear our society apart even more by bickering and fighting over such mundane things?

Why not work on your own self first before working on others? Why not realize that we all have individual faults? Why not accept them and work on them? Why not try and get along; make a change, a change for the good? Why not unite as people, and learn to love and respect one another’s differences?

“We must become the change we want to see.”  — Mahatma Gandhi

Jessica Bates, Lincoln

Vote no on Initiative 423

It is important that Initiative 423, which sets a ceiling on state expenditures, be defeated for the future of this state.

The power behind this initiative is apparently a group, led by a Howard Rich of New York (probably an appropriate name), which reportedly has spent millions of dollars supporting this initiative.

Since this measure would be in the constitution, it could not be changed without a constitutional amendment. Initiative 423 would cripple this state, as it did for Colorado, which has suspended it.

Who knows what the future responsibilities of our state will be, especially in view of the federal government transferring financial obligations to the states.

In addition, this provision would probably make it necessary for local property taxes and others to be increased.

Bill Blue, Lincoln


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Roger wrote on October 4, 2006 12:44 am:
" I agree with you Teresa, those bike lanes are just plain accidents waiting to happen, and your daughter's car is proof of that. Lucky no one was killed, next time it might not be the same. These lanes are poorly designed and really are quite dangerous. Whoever, and however, these were allowed is simply not out there much. These lanes create confusion and will cause more problems as time passes. Good Luck Lincoln, I hope no one gets killed on these. Tickets will not be received by dead people. "

 Luke wrote on October 4, 2006 2:53 am:
" Bill - What a beautiful sight indeed, a crippled state government! I've had enough of them. I'm voting "yes." "

 connie wrote on October 4, 2006 6:03 am:
" I know exactly what Carol is talking about, I've been picking up kids after school for twenty years. It IS scary to watch, but, perhaps because there are watchful parents driving the cars, I've never seen, or heard , of a child being hit. I HAVE heard of children being lost when their parents weren't waiting for them after school. I always arrive early and am often blocked in by double-parked moms. I just figure that getting their children immediately after school trumps manners for them. It should. It's those 'few' minutes waiting around for rides that are late when kids get into trouble, or fights, or take rides from random people, etc. Go ahead and block me in and get your children. I'll wait for you! "

 Amanda wrote on October 4, 2006 6:50 am:
" Initiative 423 is very bad idea. I still can't believe people are foolish enough to consider an amendment to our Nebraska Constitution supported by rich, outsiders who don't have a clue, and don't care about our state. Does it make any sense why they would funnel big $$$$$$$ into this effort? NO! Just because a guy in North Platte got suckered into it, doesn't mean the rest of us have to put up with this nonsense. If you are clear-thinking, you vote NO. "

 Lyle wrote on October 4, 2006 7:39 am:
" It would help the situation by orders of magnitudes if Lincoln drivers realized that TURN SIGNALS are not a SUGGESTION. Maybe if Officer Friendly turned 15 degrees while ticketing cyclists at 14th and "O", he might notice the steady stream of cars rounding the corner without signaling. (Now you can go back to gratuitously bashing cyclist.) "

 Sue F. wrote on October 4, 2006 7:39 am:
" Thank you Jessica for your beautiful letter. Hate and fear is destroying our country and our world. We must first over come our own hate and fear before we can change the world. "

 James wrote on October 4, 2006 8:06 am:
" Funny, the first letter complains about bicyclists, and the second letter complains about cars. Maybe if more people rode bicycles, not only would that reduce car congestion, but it would make drivers more aware of them. Yes, they must follow the rules, but, like drivers, most of them do. Can't kids walk or bike to school like we all used to "back in the day" (I'm under 30 and did that.) "

 Unknown wrote on October 4, 2006 8:09 am:
" tax and spend, tax and spend, tax and spend, get the message, and if the measure doesn't work on this one and locals raise and raise and raise, maybe we will need a law that caps their ability to tax and spend, tax and spend. I say live within the amounts you have and make do with that and quit dreaming these big ideas that you can not afford. Do essentials and stop, and if we don't have enough then something needs to go. But quit this tax and spend, tax and spend, how else will you balance. Someone is accepting the idea that we need more when in reality we do not. We have plenty and we will do just fine with what we have, we need to prioritize the areas and only keep that which is absolutely necessary. I say no more tax and spend. "

 RL wrote on October 4, 2006 8:15 am:
" A cyclist caused $2700 worth of damage to a car? I find that hard to believe. "

 Bill at work... wrote on October 4, 2006 8:16 am:
" Well said...Jessica Bates. Hit the nail right on the head! "

 Jason wrote on October 4, 2006 8:20 am:
" Teresa, thank you for bringing this issue up. I've had my car damaged by a lane-splitting cyclist who felt that because his bike could fit between lanes, he could travel between them. Obviously the poorly thought-out bike lane hasn't solved this issue. "

 CSS wrote on October 4, 2006 8:20 am:
" The bike lanes are no more accidents waiting to happen than are ANY car lanes in the entire city. That is, if it's a traffic lane, it's dangerous. I predict no fatalities anywhere near the bike lanes for 5 years. Mark it down. "

 Terry wrote on October 4, 2006 8:21 am:
" Right on Luke! The only problem with 423 is it doesn't go far enough! All it does is limit the amount of annual INCREASES in state spending (read: more wasting of my tax dollars). What needs to be done is CUT STATE SPENDING! "

 Bike Lanes? wrote on October 4, 2006 8:38 am:
" Best idea in downtown traffic since making "P" Street a two-way street. "

 Ron wrote on October 4, 2006 8:48 am:
" It's amazing how you're expected to "share the road" with a bicyclists, yet they ride like they own it. The City needs to crack down on cyclists on downtown sidewalks. I've nearly been hit twice in the last few weeks by careless riders on sidewalks. "

 Michael wrote on October 4, 2006 8:52 am:
" Teresa: If you daughter was invovled in a crash that involved another motorist, and that motorist had insufficient insurance, would you be calling for increased taxes and insurance premiums for all motorists? "

 Seriously! wrote on October 4, 2006 8:58 am:
" The question is: who was smoking what when they decided that bike lanes in the middle of the downtown streets was a good idea???!! A note on the 423 issue: property taxes will NOT stop being raised whether 423 passes or not! The state is not going to give up that 'cash cow' for anything, like they won't repeal the 1 cent gas tax they added in July because people weren't buying enough gas! Now that prices are lower, do you think they'll get rid of it? Of course not! That's just extra revenue for them. No matter what initiatives are passed, the city and state will find ways to choke 99 cents in taxes out of every 1 dollar we make, then give that good old guilt trip of 'don't you want better schools, roads, etc?' Learn to spend responsibily (right on Terry!) "

 Gary B wrote on October 4, 2006 9:00 am:
" I don't see anyone bashing the cyclists, merely complaining that cyclists, while using the same streets as cars, are not held to the same standard as cars, and as a result, motorists end up paying for the mistakes of cyclists. Riding a bike to work is simply impractical for some people, and the streets were built for cars, not bikes, as demonstrated by their wide lane width. "RL", it's definitely not that hard to believe, especially if the vehicle is relatively new...$2700 is nothing when you consider the prices that body shops like Tracy's charge. "

 Comm UnSense wrote on October 4, 2006 9:03 am:
" I don't know if Initiative 423 is the right answer, but at least its a start. LPS is draining our tax dollars and this amendment does not address that. I would sure like to see a list of administrative posts in LPS along with their salaries. Any business owner could cut costs at LPS without breaking a sweat. "

 L wrote on October 4, 2006 9:03 am:
" I wish the bike lanes were more off to the left hand side of the street. In their current position, they're confusing for motorists and dangerous for bicyclists. Not to be a rat, since I myself have used the bike lanes, but the other evening I saw one avid cyclist not even using the lanes, and another cyclists using the sidewalk! Perhaps these bike lanes need to be thoughtfully reconsidered. They're clearly not working as intended. "

 Ben wrote on October 4, 2006 9:06 am:
" What kind of car was your daughter driving, a Ferrari? "

 Scott wrote on October 4, 2006 9:15 am:
" Here's the thing about tax and spend. In order for a state and a nation to establish and maintain basic infrastructure, money is needed. What is the source of this money? Some form of taxation. Folks, we have to stop buying into bumper sticker slogans like tax and spend, cut and run and all of the other nonsense out there and realize that nothing is free. This includes roads, schools, law enforcement, fire safety, etc. Those of you who want to cut spending, please tell me where-do you want bad schools, deteriorating roads, even fewer social services and less public safety? Really? I gladly pay my taxes. I know where they go. When discussing 423, isn't it funny that over $800,000 of the money came from Howard Rich and his affiliated groups and less than $5000 came from in-state? This is a scam. "

 Judge Judy wrote on October 4, 2006 9:28 am:
" Well if your daughter wanted to she could take the cyclist to small claims court....or maybe even get on Judge Judy....guess no one thought of that. "

 Richard wrote on October 4, 2006 9:46 am:
" I don't think 423 is going to do anything but create problems for Nebraska. The real solution to the problem is electing legislators who will hold accountable the bureaucrats that actually spend our tax dollars. Maybe it is time to reward various agencies for efficiency rather than just increasing their allocations each year based on what they recieved the year previous. "

 Been there wrote on October 4, 2006 9:58 am:
" Teresa, if you read this your daughter can sue in small claims court for her deductable. A sure win since the bicyclist received a ticket. Just because the bicyclist doesn't have a drivers license or insurance does not mean they are not liable to your daughter for her expenses. In fact it is just the opposite, the bicyclist is liable for any damage they may cause through disregard of the rules of the road. It is well worth the filing fee and is so easy. Also, i agree that those who fail to use there turn signals when turning or changing lanes should be ticketed. But from what i see every day, most police never use their turn signals. In fact i am surprised when i see one actually use theirs. "

 BAH wrote on October 4, 2006 10:03 am:
" Right on, Scott! When are the citizens of Nebraska going to figure out what is really up with Initiative 423. This is not going to solve any problems with your taxes - it is going to make it worse. How many times do we need to hear from people in Colorado who lived through this and then repealed it? Anytime someone mentions taxes in this state, they are ready to jump on the cut taxes ship without thinking! THINK PEOPLE THINK! 423 is a bad plan. Richard and Scott are exactly right - you elect people to office that are fiscally minded. You are foolish if you think your taxes are going to go down. Your taxes and my taxes will go up if this initiative passes. Initiative 423 is NOT the answer! Must be really hilarious for Howard Rich to sit in his office and watch what his money can buy in Nebraska. How easy it must be to make decisions for citizens in a state where he doesn't live OR pay taxes? Disgusting! "

 Wheel Tax..... wrote on October 4, 2006 10:11 am:
" Why should a bike have to pay the wheel tax? Is it because they are on the street and have wheels? If that's the case then if you own a stroller and cross streets with it you should pay it. The reason bikes should not have to pay the wheel tax is because they don't do the damage to the streets that a car does. Look at the weight comparison....3500+ pounds to 200 or so pounds for bike and rider (probably an overestimation I know). So the weight alone puts much more stress on the street then someone riding a bike does. So maybe they should scale the wheel tax according to how much your vehicle weighs? This way those with the heavier vehicles can pay their fair share for doing more damage and those with lighter vehicles that don't do as much damage to the streets can pay less. Just to tax everything that has wheels that's on the street is not right. Because there is alot of things out there that have wheels and are on the street. They may only cross the street...but still they are on the street. "

 Barbara wrote on October 4, 2006 10:44 am:
" I cycle downtown, and lots of other places. I don't use the new bike lanes, because I think they segregate me from traffic (I *am* traffic on my bike) and confuse motorists. If I'm in the car lane, along with other traffic, it's easier for motorists to know what I'm going to do - and to behave accordingly; it's easier for me to turn right or left correctly and predictably. Bike lanes, no matter how they're designed (in the middle of the road or off to the right), do *not* automatically make cyclists safer. Predictable road behavior makes all traffic safer. Hint to motorists, if you wouldn't pass another car in your lane while going through an intersection, do NOT pass a bicycle in the same manner. "

 JT wrote on October 4, 2006 10:49 am:
" 423 is not a good idea, if it was Colorado wouldn't have had it suspended. To reduce government spending elect lawmakers who won't spend as much, or, better yet, get involved in government yourself. Maybe even volunteer at a school to help keep costs down. "

 Sean1 wrote on October 4, 2006 11:19 am:
" Thank you Jessica Bates aka Mary Sunshine. I'm more inclined to go with the saying "Life is pain. Anyone who tells you differently is selling something." "

 Lynn wrote on October 4, 2006 11:59 am:
" It is important that Nebraskan's vote for Amendment 423. We are 49th in the nation in economic growth largely because we are the 6th highest tax state. State spending has increased 228% in the past 20 years. We are 43rd in the nation in business tax climate. Only two states and the District of Columbia have a higher percentage of the population working for the government. Property taxes have went up 55% in the last 8 years. 160 thousand informed intelligent Nebraskan's signed the petition to put it on the ballot. A recent poll by national repected pollster Scott Rasmussen showed a 14% lead for Amendment 423, which says a lot about the fearmongering rhetoric of the opponents based on half truths and out right lies. As to the "horrors" of Colorado, I'll take them any day over the current situtaion in Nebraska. In the 8 years prior to passing their spending limit, Colorado ranked 43rd among the state in median family income growth. In 2005 it ranked 7th, Colorado was 33rd in job growth prior to passing their spending limit, they are 6th since it was passed. They went from 43 in economic growth per capita to 7th in 2005. Their Gross state product grew at a annual rate of 4.9%, the second highest in the nation. They currently are 10th in theh nation in per capita GSP. While at the same state spending was still allowed to increase by 75%. If you want to remain bottom 10 in economic growth then vote no, if you want to go to top 10 like Colorado did, vot yes on Amendment 423. "

 JMK wrote on October 4, 2006 12:00 pm:
" I tire quickly listening to the age old guilt trip of we need to provide protection, etc. It seems to me that most of the people claiming we need to pay high taxes to provide services has never been out of their own house. In other cities, states, (Colo and MO to name a few)they provide excelent schools and more than adiquate police protection (compare our crime rate to some of theirs before you open up and disagree) and they have half the property tax bill we have. It is time to reclaim our money. "

 GMP wrote on October 4, 2006 12:18 pm:
" Teresa, if the cyclist was ticked, they are responsible for the damage to the car. Either small claims court, or maybe even their home owners or renters insurance would pay for it. Or, if a minor, their parents would be responsible. I would at least follow up on this. I do not like the bike lane either. But I really have no solution to the problem, except to make bicyles share the lanes with the cars, in line, and make everyone responsible for others safety. This will never happen, most people only care about themselves. "

 BAH wrote on October 4, 2006 12:29 pm:
" Colorado went to the top AFTER it repealed its errant amendment! We need to learn from Colorado's mistake and their smart sense to repeal the damage done! As for the people who signed the petition - we weren't informed, we were approached by people wanting us to sign, we signed because we should put it to the people. Now that the REAL information is out there....we know the truth. Vote no on 423 - it wasn't good for Colorado - isn't good for Nebraska! "

 Dan wrote on October 4, 2006 1:25 pm:
" Looks like the marketers for 423 are out again. "

 Jim wrote on October 4, 2006 2:10 pm:
" 423 will certainly mean higher taxes for us. so if you really like paying out more of your money, then please do vote for 423. I like more money in MY pocket so I will vote againt it and I will urge everyone who thinks for them selves to do likewise "

 Mike Pratt wrote on October 4, 2006 3:06 pm:
" Mr Blue's assertion that Colorado was damaged by their TABOR initiative is off base. In February '06 Colorado Governor Owens re-endorded Colorado's spending growth delimiter in the Phoenix newspaper. So who know more about Colorado; the Governor or the Nebraska AARP? Better yet, who have a vested-financial interest in seeing Nebraska's state spending grow unimpeded? Come on Mr. Blue - TABOR in Colorado was a success and their Governor says so. "

 Mike wrote on October 4, 2006 3:19 pm:
" The opponents of this same type of initiative in 1998, the then initiative 413, tried to scare the people of Nebraska into believing that passage would raise property taxes so they urged everyone to "Vote No." It didn't pass and guess what...Property Taxes went up 55% anyway since then. Now they're trying to say the same thing...AGAIN??? Sorry, that dog don't hunt. I am voting for Initiative 423. Thank you. "

 RL wrote on October 4, 2006 4:16 pm:
" Really strange. People from Colo. tell me just the opposite of Mr. Blue's comment. If more property taxes are raised, I have two choices, go live in the slums and maybe I'll be lucky to get a stray bullett, or move back to the state I came from where taxes are half Nebraskas. In fact that state is working to do away with property tax. Its quite evident certain Nebraskans don't believe in building the state & Lincoln and the only easy way for their beautiful city & to keep it small for THEIR enjoyment is to tax everybody to death. There are alot of people come retirement day that will say, "I couldn't save, I could barely make ends meet. I was talking to a company in another state and asked when they were going to open an office in Nebraska since they have one in every other state in the U.S. He just laughed at me and said "with those taxes??" So if I want to go to one of their offices, I have to go to Kansas City, DesMoines or Denver. "

 Anonymous wrote on October 4, 2006 4:42 pm:
" Does anybody else find it hard to believe Ms. Dageforde's claim about $2,700 worth of damage to her daughter's car? Normally I wouldn't think twice about it, but after last weekend, that number sticks in my mind. A deer running out of a ditch and me hitting it at 65 mph also resulted in $2,700 worth of damage to my car. That would be for a new hood, front fender, headlight, and windshield. That biker must have been MOVING to cause that much damage!!! "

 No to 423 wrote on October 4, 2006 4:43 pm:
" Mike, the state does not set property taxes. Property taxes are set and levied by school districts, cities, counties and other political sub divisions like airport authorities and Natural Resource Districts. The state does not get 1 cent out of that. When state spending for schools, roads, etc. decrease like it would under I 423, property taxes will have to be raised to make up the difference to maintain the necessities. And that dog does hunt! Colorado AARP has also said that TABOR is bad for Colorado and I would believe them over the Colorado governor because the governor has a political stake in TABOR and AARP does not. Gas tax rate is set twice a year and if gas tax revenue is up and exceeds what is budgeted for roads it will go down. Despite what you think, it has gone down many times, and yes, in recent times. "

 JC wrote on October 4, 2006 5:26 pm:
" Jim... if you prefer to keep money in your pocket, you'd vote FOR 423. As another writer said, the Jobs Program that is Nebraska government managed to scare people with the threat of higher taxes if they passed 413 in 1998 and 413 failed. Guess what? TAXES WENT UP 55% anyway. 423 will FORCE state government to eliminate the waste (and there's plenty of it). "

 Bill wrote on October 4, 2006 5:41 pm:
" Nothing will get done with the bicyclist until one of them is killed. Anytime of day, any day Monday-Friday, you can sit at 14/R [the north end of the bike lane] and watch bicyclist after bicyclist ride through the stop sign. This has been reported to the police and University police. I have yet to see any of their 'selective' enforcement. "

 Jeff wrote on October 4, 2006 7:32 pm:
" Comm UnSense wants to see a list of LPS administrative positions and salaries? You really think cutting there would make a difference??? If you looked closely at the LPS budget you'd notice that admin salaries are a very small fraction of the budget. The bulk of the LPS budget is teacher salaries since there are several thousand teachers and many fewer administrators. It's always amazing to see how many "experts" on state and local spending come out in the editorials, yet they never run for office. Put your money where your mouth is and do something besides complain. Make a difference!!! "

 It will get worse wrote on October 4, 2006 8:45 pm:
" I will not vote for 423 it will make a bad situation worse. That said, I do agree that state spending better get in line with a smaller budget as the Federal Government groans under the gross weight of the projected 549 BILLION dollars we will spend on Iraq. In addition there must be some hidden money somewhere since we are also planning on spending 700 MILLION on a Fence. I still wonder where all this money is coming from? You and me? "

 Anne wrote on October 4, 2006 10:15 pm:
" I have had nothing but frustration when it comes to bicyclists riding one the road while I am driving. On one occassion, when I was driving along Superior, a bicyclist who was riding on the trail darted off of the trail and onto the road, almost colliding with the car in front of mine. That car stopped quickly to avoid hitting the bicyclist, and if I hadn't stopped very quickly also, I would have ran into the back of the car in front of mine. On another occassion, I encountered a bicyclist riding in the middle of a road with only one lane going each way. Of course, he was going pretty slow (relative to the speed of a car) and it was pretty hard to get around him. Overall, in the 1.5 years I have lived here, I have noticed that the bicyclists in Lincoln are very aggressive. It really doesn't make much sense given the fact that bicyclists have little protection when they collide with cars. "

 al wrote on October 5, 2006 10:16 am:
" Hey Teresa, your daughter should file a small claims suit against the bicyclist to get her money. Even the filing cost can be put against the cyclist whenthe judge orders them to pay you. Maybethe cyclist is a student whose parents have the moeny and will pay you off. Good luck! "

 Mike wrote on October 5, 2006 10:38 am:
" The Bottom line is those people who were against the initiative when it was first on the ballot in 1998, claimed taxes were going to go up if it passed. It was their "Main Point" to make people not vote for it. The fact is: that was their claim, it didn't pass, taxes still went up. What then was the point of them making such a deal about taxes going up if it were to pass if the property taxes would not be effected? They are making the same "scare claims" today over initiative 423. What you're telling me is that there is no merit to what those who are opposing Initiative 423 are "warning us about; taxes going up". I am merely a citizen, who is concerned about the well being of the state of our state for my children in the future. Thus, it has behooved me to do proper diligence on the matter. Everything I've read and seen leads me to think 423 IS a good thing, so I am going to vote YES for it. I respect your take and you're well written, but I am not convinced what you and others who are opposed to this Initiative 423 are saying is really fact. Many of the things you claim happend to Colorado, negatively, don't align with the actual documents and facts from the state government of Colorado itself. Calling in to question the Governor basing it on an alleged political stake doesn't make sense. It's not true and it's irrelevant. "

 Todd wrote on October 6, 2006 2:43 pm:
" Okay, this is for all of you who want to compare Colorado and Nebraska. Here is a common sense lesson. How many millions of people came to Nebraska to go snow skiing and spending approx. $150 a day? NONE How many millions of people gambled in the casinos in Nebraska? NONE How many millions of people attended a major professional sports venue in Nebraska? NONE. Now mulitply the millions of people by the number of dollars taxed and you could see why they have a good tax system. When you decide to vote for 423, ask yourself what government service do you want to go without? Ask yourself if you want your roads maintained or police to come to your accident. 423 passes and gas skies up to $3.50/gal, how are these entities going to cover the additional costs? Everyone would love to not pay taxes, but when the state does not have a taxable base, the people have to pay. Remember the casinos were voted down. Imagine if the state would have levied a 45% tax on the casinos gross profits. We would not have any taxes. "

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