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Letters, 9/22: Who do you trust?

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Friday, Sep 22, 2006 - 11:11:09 am CDT

Thank you for your recent editorial regarding the feasibility of broadband delivery via the electric company. You also point out that denying this valuable resource would be harmful to local economic health. 

However, the task force has indicated they intend to "protect" the consumers from this opportunity.

A recent news article quoted a Public Service commissioner, who interestingly is also a member of the task force, also plans to protect the public from this ready source of broadband.

The players in this little drama are, on the one hand, the hard-working suppliers of the electricity we have all come to depend on. They have earned our trust. On the other hand will be the Public Service Commission, best known to us as the agency who has very willingly approved all those additional charges on our local phone bill.

Decision time — who do you trust?

Richard Safarik, Lincoln

What about Harlan County Lake?

I fail to understand why Alma would sponsor a proposed ethanol plant when the location, six miles east of Alma, puts it the back yard of Republican City and Taylor Manor neighborhood. Smells to me like Alma wants to reap the economic benefit without the risk of political fallout. The two proposed locations are outside of Alma's voting district and downwind of town.

As a part-time Republican City resident (future full-time), I am very concerned the impact this will have to Harlan County Lake and the surrounding area.

Those of us that live in the prevailing winds have concerns of the odor and dust emanating from the plant, not to mention the increase in road traffic, plant lighting and the aesthetic ugliness a plant like this provides.

Of equal concern are the potential impacts to fishing, hunting and the area wildlife, as this is a large source of revenue stream for Alma, Republican City and area businesses. Wildlife and water quality make this area one of Nebraska's treasures. I know many families, fishermen, hunters and outdoorsman, both in-state and out-state, who regularly visit the lake area. Why spoil the view and serenity with stack towers bellowing smoke and odor?

I am not opposed to the idea of a plant and certainly welcome the economic growth an ethanol plant provides, but I strongly protest the proposed locations due to their proximity to Harlan County Lake, Taylor Manor, Republican City and the surrounding area which account for well over 300 homes and farms within two miles of the proposed locations.

If Alma is so inclined to sponsor a plant, I suggest they look in their own yard. Specifically many areas exist between Alma and Orleans with far less homes and farms. Here they will find suitable locations that provide easy access from two major highways as well as adequate rail facilities needed to support an ethanol plant.

Mike Andrews, Republican City

Ricketts family innovative

I am writing in response to Joan Bower’s recent letter “Ricketts no small-towner.” I’d just like to say that it seems a lot of people don’t have a few facts straight.

Pete Ricketts’ dad may have owned a company, but that company started out very small in 1971, and was struggling with typical small company issues in the late 1980s. However, the assembled management team came up with excellent solutions for very difficult problems, thus able to grow as a company and become what it is today. The Ricketts family had many innovative ideas and put them into practice, the end result being a large financial company.

Isn’t this the philosophy of what our country is based on? They built their company from the ground up and should be respected for it, not vilified.

Pete was in fact born in a small town called Nebraska City. His parents raised him with small-town values, such as hard-working, honesty, perseverance, being neighborly, having good character, ethicality and determination. Pete started working at the bottom of the “totem pole” just like everybody else. He had to work his way up, proving he was worthy of every promotion he got.

As an intelligent young adult, I just wish that candidates would state what they would like to change, why they would like to change it, and how they plan on changing it, along with their opinion. This way I would be able to make a well-informed decision and come up with an opinion of my own.

Nicole Hudson, Lincoln

Pot, meet kettle

Let me start by saying that I am not a political person.  However, I do watch television and I have to laugh every time I see a Pete Ricketts commercial saying that Ben Nelson is attacking and what a terrible thing to do.

I have to say “hmmm” to that one.  I do believe that the beginning of the Ricketts commercials came out condemning Nelson for everything under the sun.

Can dish it out but can't take it.  We need someone like that in office like we need ... well, you get the picture.

Renae Logan, Lincoln

Good choices = character

In response to Laura Holman’s letter on Sept. 13, I could not disagree more strongly with her claims. I practiced abstinence all through my teen years, and as a young adult, I am still a virgin. My siblings and many of my friends are also virgins.

The assertion that abstinence is “unreasonable and unrealistic” deeply offends me. Is she claiming that my generation is incapable of self-control and good decision-making? Is she saying that I cannot weigh the evidence and choose a life of chastity?

We need to be careful about the message we are sending to young people. I would never tell my younger brother that abstinence was an “unreasonable and unrealistic” goal for his life. Instead, I encourage him to make healthy choices and applaud his successes. Incidentally, those successes are real and they are consistent, in his life as well as mine and many others.

By the way, making good choices and reaping the benefits is how character is built. Strength is developed by resisting harmful behaviors, not by being relieved of the responsibility for bad decisions.

Karissa Vieth, Martell

Don't forget

To Mayor Coleen Seng:

When you are writing your memoirs, please don’t forget “The Smoking Bus.”

Gary M. Walker, Lincoln


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Zoomie wrote on September 22, 2006 1:11 am:
" I want to thank Pete Ricketts for being honest enough to endorse Democrat Jim Esch for Congress Wednesday on the Becka show, in Omaha! After telling people on Monday and Tuesday that we need to stop sending back the same politicians over and over if we really expect to see change in Washington, he was asked by a caller to Becka's show if that meant people should vote for Lee Terry's opponent. Ricketts noted he isn't running against Terry, and doesn't know anything about Terry's record (side item - hasn't Terry been Pete's Congressman for the last 6 or 8 years?), but told the caller if he wants to see change, he needs to replace the same old politicians, stop sending them back to Washington every election! By extension, logically, doesn't this mean he also supports Maxine Maul? So, if you're a Ricketts fan, take his advice and vote Democrat for House candidates!!! Glad to see him endorse Jim and Maxine! "

connie wrote on September 22, 2006 6:52 am:
" Karissa, I congratulate you on sticking to your personal convictions, but, if I remember Laura's letter correctly, she meant that expecting abstinence from EVERYONE before marriage was unrealistic. It is the right choice for many young people, but what about those who don't believe that sex outside of marriage is wrong, that it is a beautiful way to share love with someone, or those young people who don't feel marriage is right for them in these uncertain times, or those who have decided (and many do) that they don't want children at all, ever? Of course you can weigh the evidence and choose a life of chastity. Those who weigh the evidence and do not choose a life of chastity should be able to make this choice, and have the tools available to them to make that choice responsibly. There is nothing more deeply personal and private to any individual than their sexuality, except, perhaps, their sprituality. We can certainly hold our own opinions about what constitutes a good choice, but must draw the line on dictating those beliefs to others. When you are counseling your younger brother, share your beliefs, their reasons, and why you believe this would be the best path for him as well, THEN tell him that something so deeply personal should be very carefully considered, but, at the end of the day, is no one's business but his own! "

Tainted wrote on September 22, 2006 7:51 am:
" Infortunate is the appearance that the task force of the Public Service Commission did not have robust citizen representation and looked to be tainted by the voice of big business. That type of lost integrity is an insult to democracy and best interests of citizens. When this tpye of tinkering with power shows up, it is time to replace the members elected to represent the people. "

Terrance wrote on September 22, 2006 9:19 am:
" A couple of months ago I read a recent survey in a California paper, that 96.8% of those parents who preach abstinence did not them selves abstine. Why, because they were able to make their own free choices as we all should. We live in such a controlling world. Everyone wants to control the others behavior, but never want their behavior controlled. Go figure. "

Kelly wrote on September 22, 2006 9:20 am:
" So Ricketts started at the bottom? he was at the mail room for years? I highly doubt that. In fact, I think it's more likely that he got a cushy job with little responsibility and a nice title (and great bonuses of course). I know people in Nebraska City and none of them know Pete Ricketts - he went to Westside H.S. in Omaha for goodness sakes! He's as small town as Paris Hilton. "

Kurt wrote on September 22, 2006 9:23 am:
" In response to Renae's letter, the day after the primary election I both heard on the radio and saw on TV my first Nelson ad negatively targeting Pete Ricketts. About 3 weeks later I saw my first Rickett's add negatively targeting Nelson...in direct respone to Nelson's ad. So, if we're going to point fingers here, Nelson started this. I guess that in your opinion Ricketts has no right to defend himself against negative attacks. Side note, I'm as sick of this type of campaigning as anyone and would like it to stop, but both sides are guilty here, so tell the truth instead of slanting your opinion in your own negative attack against Ricketts. "

Jackson wrote on September 22, 2006 9:24 am:
" It is easy to remain a virgin if no one will have sex with you. That is true abstinence. "

Dale wrote on September 22, 2006 9:57 am:
" I don't recall Fortenberry ever reimbursing Lincoln after we were collectively FORCED TO PAY for HIS campaign when he brought Cheney here (traditionally, politicians get around that by at least having the politico give a non-partisan speech along the way, but Cheney was far too arrogant and cynical to be bothered). I'm sure it's an oversight and he'll be paying that bill any day now. But that raises another question in my mind. Ricketts is bringing Karl Rove here. Who's footing the bill for that? Has the LJS thought to ask anyone? I'd be very curious to hear, since he can't hide behind the facade of being a politician. "

cm wrote on September 22, 2006 10:09 am:
" why can't we have candidates talk about how great they are (for real) than how bad the other is. I already know how bad each are, i want to know why one's better not worse. it seems that's all voting is anymore the lesser of two evils. it'd be nice to get away from that. it's not how good a candidate will be it's which one will do the least damage (things we don't like). i understand not all decisions are easy and you can't make everybody happy all the time, but voting is not based on who's the best. the adds prove that. "

Mark M wrote on September 22, 2006 10:27 am:
" If we follow Pete's logic and quit sending the same people back to Washington, we would have a Democratic majority in both the House and the Senate. Let the impeachment begin! "

Josh2 wrote on September 22, 2006 10:29 am:
" If small-town Pete is bringing Karl Rove to Nebraska, that is just one more reason not to vote for him....... "

Barb wrote on September 22, 2006 10:38 am:
" Pete did not have to work his way up, the progressive climb was well orchestrated and engineered. Competence was not relevant in his career but should be examined close by voters who view excessive spending as an inefficient way to reach the hearts and minds of Nebraskans. A;;iance with "el diablo" in the White House and Karl Rove-Cheney associations further diminished credability. Citizens are fed up with the old regime who is determined to stay the course without a plan to win. Spending money, good dollar after bad, is a road to ruin. "

Eric wrote on September 22, 2006 10:47 am:
" Karissa, we're offended by people who continually force their views on others, just because they think they're right. "

to wrote on September 22, 2006 10:49 am:
" You are just wrong. The first negative ad was that awful "Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy are coming to steal your children ad". That was a Pete Ricketts' ad. What Nelson ad was negative before that? None. I remember him running ads on ethanol after the primary. How is that negative to Pete - is Pete opposed to ethanol? "

Me wrote on September 22, 2006 11:18 am:
" Not everybody will be responsible and remain virgins until they are married. So for those people, it's only right they should be educated to be safe. I also think it's funny that just because you're married it's ok to have sex. Married people have abortions too. "

peb wrote on September 22, 2006 12:10 pm:
" Karissa did not quote Laura Holman correctly. I've copied and pasted what Laura wrote: "Her call for abstinence is unreasonable and unrealistic." Notice, she said "HER CALL" . . . is unreasonable and unrealistic, not that abstinence is unreasonable and unrealistic. It's scary how things can be misinterpreted and it happens either when the reader does not have a good grasp of English grammar or is too caught up in proving their point. "

Zoomie wrote on September 22, 2006 12:14 pm:
" If the first ad you saw was a Nelson ad AFTER the primary, you've been living with your TV turned off for almost 9 months!!! Ricketts first negative ad, attacking Nelson, was run back in December 2005!!! I know, because the thing that turned me against him so strongly so quickly was that I enjoy that brief period between election TV ads, and Ricketts blew that away by starting to spend that $10 million of his daddy's money that he's spent (so far), running ads a full year before the election! And yes, as already mentioned, it tried to claim Nelson is some sort of Kennedy/Hillary liberal! So please, if as you say you want to point fingers at where it all started, look no further than ol' Pete! "

Whitney wrote on September 22, 2006 12:19 pm:
" 'healthy choices' is an operative phrase in your letter, karissa. certainly, one healthy choice for young people is abstinence. There is physical health, and mental health. It is not mentally healthy to view sex as something bad or 'dirty', nor as something to feel guilty about if you enjoy it, and it is as important to their future happiness that we not send young people the message that it is. As far as physical health goes, when I went to my ob-gyn (years ago) for a pre-marital check-up for birth control pills, my doctor discovered that I had a cervical erosion that required cautery. (unpleasant) He asked how long before the wedding, and when I asked why he wanted to know he replied, "because there's nothing that will help this heal faster than a good, healthy, sex life" I imagine that would've been true if I was unmarried as well. "

Huh? wrote on September 22, 2006 12:21 pm:
" because you saw a Nelson ad before you saw a Ricketts ad, that automatically means Nelson started the negativity? I saw the Nebraska State Capitol before I ever saw the Rocky Mountains - does that mean the capitol has been around longer? "

Don wrote on September 22, 2006 12:34 pm:
" Karissa wasn't forcing her views on anyone. She is stating her convictions. In one sense I would say others are trying to force their convictions on her just by laughing at her. I applaud her for standing strong in a society that promotes promiscuity. "

Confused wrote on September 22, 2006 12:35 pm:
" So the argument about only teaching abstinence is basically that if you KNOW about sex, you must have it? Do the parents who want ONLY abstinence taught to their children have that little faith in their own parenting skills and their children to think they will be unable to make the correct decision if they have ALL the facts? Facts they didn't get from their best friend? No one said your child has to have sex. Kudos to them if they don't... but they shouldn't be made to feel they've done something horrible if ONE time (or more, but who's counting?) they are overcome by the moment. If that happens, I want my child to at least know the facts about the decision they are making and that it's not black and white, good or bad. "

Regi wrote on September 22, 2006 12:50 pm:
" Karissa is NOT forcing her views on others but she IS right. I am working to instill the values of abstinence and waiting until marriage to my daughters - Karissa - it is encouraging to hear from someone that this can work. It takes strenght of character and strong values to NOT give in when wveryone else is. I admire Karissa and the increasing number of young people who are giving abstinence a chance. In my own case, if I had it to do over, I would have tried harder..... Thanks, Karissa! "

Kevin wrote on September 22, 2006 1:11 pm:
" In response to Nicole's letter, why does she always refer to the "Ricketts family" and not to Pete Ricketts? Is it because he had little to do with the companies growth and/or innovations? I highly doubt he was working there in the 70's or 80's when he was in school. I'm not impressed with his business background because i have seen no evidence he actually contributed to the company's success. "

Happy wrote on September 22, 2006 1:28 pm:
" Karissa must study her Bible. I applaud her. I'm a virgin and never married and you'd be surprised at the many many jealous people I have encountered thru life. Their lives have been sad, divoriced, you name it. I was engaged to be married until the other party decided to play the field with sex and ended up with a serious disease. The only problem of being single, you have to fight for your job, pay, and everything else in life. You go into a restruant and they always set you in a corner looking at a wall!! Marrieds with two salaries pay one property tax and everything else, but a single person with one salary has to pay the same price as the two salaried couple for everything. "

Luke wrote on September 22, 2006 2:33 pm:
" Karissa, interesting that you equate abstinence with "good decisionmaking" and regard sex as "harmful" behavior. I will say this - you have made the right decision. Your views are so philosophically unsound in regards to sex that you would be incapable of having it in a meaningful - and proper - way anyway. I would certainly not fault anyone for refraining from an activity that they did not understand. However, be mindful, there are those of us who DO understand and, as a result, have the benefit of one of the finest activities known to a human being. "

eddie wrote on September 22, 2006 3:08 pm:
" Sex outside of marriage is never a loving act unless you consider gambling with unwanted pregnancy, being a party to spreading veneral disease, or using another person as an object to be loving activities. Everyone can wait for marriage and society would be far better off if everyone did wait. There is no good reason for engaging in sexual intercourse before marriage, although there are probably as many bad reasons as there are people doing it. "

Eric wrote on September 22, 2006 3:11 pm:
" Yep, those of us who don't study your Christian bible just aren't committed to anything, we're just weak, we're just not as good as you. We should be looked down upon, because we're not like YOU. "

UNK wrote on September 22, 2006 3:17 pm:
" Third district voters have an opportunity to help change the Senate race in six years. It is not often young candidates such as Scott Kleeb provide inspiration for generations of voters. Hope for the third district as a source for grooming this candidate with House experience is vital for both the district and state. A rare background of rural foundations, exposure to militart bases, and academic credentials is a combination that can both empathize and lead. Our soldiers and farmers must have an independent voice to assure their lives and life as Nebraskans is neither wasted or exploited. Due diligence is the will we must summon. The third district has opportunity to help bring a Representative to Congress who is of and for the people. "

Josh wrote on September 22, 2006 4:09 pm:
" I am single and have yet to have to "fight for my job, pay, and everything else in life". And if I do not like where the waitstaff seats me, I just ask for another booth/table. "

Parent Too wrote on September 22, 2006 5:11 pm:
" Just because it was my choice not to practice abstinence prior to marriage doesn't mean that I can't teach my kids to practice abstinance! I had a child before I was married, however, I don't want any of my kids doing the same thing, because of the mental and emotional impact it had on me. My choices don't dictate what I teach my kids, and allow my kids to do the same things I did! I do, however, regret those actions (but don't regret my child!), as they caused considerable heartbreak for me, and left me with a distorted view of sex outside of marriage - that it's ok (which it is not). Abstinence goes beyond the physical, it is mental and emotional too and keeping all these intact makes for a much better, closer intimate sex life with your spouse. People, it's not all about just sex here, it is about how it affects you mentally and emotionally, not to mention how it affects physically (unwanted pregnancies, disease, etc.) "

Judy Cantrell wrote on September 22, 2006 5:41 pm:
" Shouldn't that be "Whom Do You Trust?" "

Dorothy wrote on September 22, 2006 6:06 pm:
" To start with, I'd like to say that I was a young woman in the early fifties, so I'm not some young, rebellious teen. With the exception of connie and whitney and a couple of others, I am VERY disturbed at this seemingly newly emergent prudish attitude toward sex. It's extremely unhealthy, mentally, to have an attitude that a sexual urge is something to be ashamed of, and can only be a loving act within the bounds of matrimony. "there is no good reason to engage in sexual intercourse before marriage", eddie? You must not be doing it right! I'm very sorry that some people have equated sex with something dirty and bad, that they'll never be able to enjoy it without guilt. I know you young people think we were all Doris Day back then, but nothing could be further from the truth, and while our parents STRONGLY promoted abstinence before marriage, (as did I, with my own children)they presented sex as something to REALLY, REALLY look forward to, not as something shameful. 6 month babies were really common, and were welcomed with love, a wink, and knowing smiles. Stop being so judgemental, your grandparents weren't! "

Voting wrote on September 22, 2006 9:41 pm:
" I'm voting. I'm certainly not happy about who we have as choices in the voting process, but I am voting. I also feel we should send a message to politicians in general. Stop wasting our time. Get busy and get to work. On to Karissa Vieth. Can we stop trying to force others to do as you would do? If you don't believe in it don't do it! simple Enough said! "

Roger wrote on September 22, 2006 11:12 pm:
" Ben Nelson is the one that needs to be elected "

Karissa wrote on September 23, 2006 12:32 am:
" Interesting that so many would think I emplied that I believe sex is bad, dirty, or harmful. Maybe I should have been more clear. Sex is awesome! There aren't many things I look forward to more than my wedding night ... and all the nights that follow. Fire is really, really good too. Or it can be really destructive. Depends on when and how it is used. The word abstinence is commonly used to mean abstinence outside of marriage. Having sex only with someone who has commited to lifelong marriage to you, to loving you unconditionally and never leaving you, is the most meaningful context I can think of. Parent Too has some good insight on this (Thanks!) Yes, sex is something to really look forward to. And I do! In the meantime, I don't want to risk my future on practicing sex in a harmful way. And, yes, it is harmful to have sex outside of marriage. It doesn't matter what you believe, if something is harmful it remains harmful. As far as forcing others to do as I would do, you won't find me outside your door monitoring your nightly activities. Everyone has the ability to make their own decisions. But, last I checked, important truths were something to be shared. Or why are we all writing these letters and comments? If we shouldn't share our beliefs, then we might as well quit wasting our time. "

D.S.B. wrote on September 23, 2006 11:22 am:
" Karissa, both of your letters are well thought out and well written, but you failed to address a couple of questions from the commentator's. What about those who don't wish to marry for personal reasons. Are you suggesting that they should live out their lives without ever knowing the joy of expressing themselves intimately? Seems kind of harsh. Also, i think it rather rigid to say that sex outside of marriage is practicing sex in a harmful way. That's a moral view, not a medical one. You are right in saying that we should share our beliefs. Her is mine: no magic transformation takes place at the issuance of a marriage license that turns sex into something glorious and beautiful, if, 24 hours before, between the same two people, it was wrong and dangerous. It is one thing, or it is the other. "

RK wrote on September 23, 2006 12:45 pm:
" Mr Safarik, I trust NON of them? "

JW wrote on September 23, 2006 12:56 pm:
" No Josh, you wouldn't have to fight for your pay etc, cause I'm assuming you are a male. It's the females who have to fight and the reason females make half what normally males do. I've been there, done that, seen that, know that. And the present female population probably doesn't know or ever heard of Doris Day. Bad example. Alot of mothers taught their daughters some years back that sex was dirty and a big secreat. As a kid on the farm I was never to know or see how any of the animals were born let alone conceived!!! When the vet came to castrate the hogs I was sent to the house!!! Anymore questions?? "

farmer/father wrote on September 23, 2006 1:57 pm:
" Come on JW, not a fair comparison. When my children were small they weren't exposed to births and castrations on our place, not because I wanted to teach them that sex was a dirty secret, but because both are sights of animals in pain, and all births do not end in a cute, live, baby animal. I didn't want them traumatized. When they were old enough to understand, I taught them that sex is a beautiful thing to share when you are old enough to be responsible to see that it doesn't have negative consequences for you or your partner. Because I farm, doesn't mean I have views from the dark ages. As far as dorothy goes, I think she may be MY mother! Sure sounds like her. "

DM wrote on September 23, 2006 7:06 pm:
" I'm sure this blog is getting worn, but I just had one thing to say to Karissa and everyone else I suppose. I think that when a person has sex is their choice, and they need to make the choice that is best for them. Karissa has this right just like the rest of us and obviously abstinence is the best choice for her. That does not mean that she is ignorant, or that she thinks sex is dirty or whatever. It might be a very realistic conviction for her. At the same time, If you make the choice to have sex before marriage, it should be an informed decision. I do not think that either choice is superior or harmful. Karissa should remember that unwanted pregnancies happen within marriages too. Also, your spouse can give you an STD. 75% of sexually active women will get a strain of HPV, not just unmarried ones. It seems like there is a lot more pressure for abstinance directed toward women in our society. I hope Karissa has made this choice for herself and not for her future husband. Personally i have sex a lot and i am not legally married. I am a lesbian. What do we do when we can't be married by law Karrissa? Should I let you know that my sex is a lot safer than heterosexual sex? Certainly no pregnancies. But if we can't get married, what are we expected to do? Join a convent? A little off the subject, but I always wondered that. "

abstinence only EDUCATION wrote on September 24, 2006 5:55 pm:
" I think Karissa's letter was in response about abstinence only education. That means not explaining how to prevent STDs and pregnancy. That means anything a young person learns about this subject, he or she has hopefully learned from parents, but if not, from friends, television, books, or magazines. This information is the information one has when he or she does get married and have sex for the first time. Imagine if you married someone who had sex one time before, but now had an STD because HE DIDN"T KNOW how to prevent it because he had never been taught? Imagine 22 year-old newly weds with pathetic jobs barely making rent getting pregnant because THEY DIDN"T KNOW how to prevent pregnancy? Imagine young people not seeking treatment and spreading disease on to others because THEY DIDN"T KNOW how they were spread and that they were putting others at risk? We can teach our children all the facts and at the same time promote abstinence. They are not alternatives, but rather two parts to the effective and responsible education of our future. "

NO wrote on September 25, 2006 9:00 pm:
" Some seem to think Karissa is imposing her beliefs. Imposing is what the terrorists do when they blow themselves up to kill all the infedels. As for abstinence, it comes down to Christian beliefs vs. secular or worldly views. If you hold the bible to be the Word of God, than yes, fornication is wrong. It says so clearly in the bible (see 1 Corinthians 6). Christians believe the bible to be the truth. That doesn't mean we think less of those who don't share that belief. It's like anything that you truly believe in - you are passionate about it and you want to share it with others. That, I believe, is what Karissa's letter is about. D.S.B., it does seem harsh in this world that if you don't marry you shouldn't have sex. That is biblical though. It says it is good to marry, but better to remain single to follow the Lord more closely. If, however, you can't control your desires, you should marry. "

bible student wrote on September 26, 2006 11:34 am:
" yeah, whatever, 'No'. The bible also says selling family members into slavery is cool, (Exodus 21:7) that anybody who works on the Sabbath should be put to death, (Exodus 35:2) as well as anyone planting different crops side by side, or wearing garments made from two different threads. I could go on, but you get my point. I REALLY don't think Karissa, or any modern Christian believes these things to still be true, do you? "

NO wrote on September 27, 2006 11:20 pm:
" You need to put things in context, otherwise if you just pick and choose verses here and there then you could find contradictions in many places in the bible. Read on in Exodus, specifically 31:17, where there is more instructions for the Sabbath. The Lord says keeping holy the sabbath is "a permanent sign of my covenant with (his people, the Israelites)." Yes, today we should not work on Sundays, but we won't die because of it. God is specifically instructing the Israelites, so putting them to death is their specific punishment for disobeying. "