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BY DON WALTON / Lincoln Journal Star

Friday, Aug 18, 2006 - 12:16:39 am CDT

In the tenth August of his Senate career, this is a time of reflection for Chuck Hagel. Decision time comes later, and it can wait.

Gliding above the green hills of northeastern Nebraska this week in a King Air bound from Norfolk to Sioux City, the shirtsleeved senator embraces the moment.

“Reconnecting without the day-to-day pressures of Washington and politics, listening to real people, not thinking about the future, reinvigorates me, re-enforces me.

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Sen. Chuck Hagel speaks in South Sioux City on Monday.(William Lauer)

“This is one of the best parts of the job. It fills me back up.”

Time out. Life is good.

On this gentle summer day, Hagel banters with students in Norfolk, sits around a table with community college educators talking about plans for the future, tours a beef processing plant that feeds the nation’s fast-food hamburger giants, answers questions over coffee and cookies at a bank in South Sioux City.

At the Northern Nebraska Area Health Education Center, Hagel is asked if he’d like something to drink.

“Maybe a glass of ethanol,” he says. After the laughter, he settles for coffee instead.

Interrupting a natural resources district huddle over documents and maps, he asks: “You guys know what you’re doing?”

At the Iowa-Nebraska State Bank, 21 residents gather in the community room at the end of the work day to greet Hagel.

“Anybody ask if you’re running for president today?” comes the first inquiry.

“Nobody cares,” Hagel says.

Not him. Not today.

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Sure, it’s hovering there.

But it can wait.

Sometime after this November’s national elections, Hagel will decide whether to seek the presidency in 2008.

Or be a candidate for a third term in the Senate.

Or steer a new course in either the private or public sector.

The reality is this: If his party does poorly in congressional elections this autumn, that’s a call for change and an opening for him in the Republican presidential derby.

Hagel wants to reshape — he might say restore — the Republican Party, take it back to international engagement and fiscal discipline.  Back to what he describes as its  moorings.

Back to Eisenhower and Reagan and the first George Bush. 

Even back to Abraham Lincoln, whose presidency demonstrated   the GOP was “once the party of tolerance and mutual respect.”

Today, Hagel argues for comprehensive immigration reform that welcomes newcomers and provides a pathway to earned legal status for millions now settled here illegally.

But the two-term senator has been most outspoken in parting from the Republican White House over Iraq. 

Hagel also has criticized U.S.  disengagement from working toward a two-state settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian dispute and warned about the isolating impact of the Bush administration’s unilateral instincts.

“If America is looking for change, my record is pretty clear about that,” Hagel says. 

If voters this November essentially endorse the status quo with their congressional votes, Hagel says, that delivers a different message.

“I may not fit.”

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Gas prices, drought, war.

Iraq, Lebanon, terrorists, the plot to blow up airliners over the Atlantic.

Nebraskans with questions on their minds.

Hagel with direct answers.

“There were no terrorists in Iraq until we got there.”

“War should never be held hostage to a political agenda. It shouldn’t be used as a partisan issue, a wedge issue, especially by those in my party who say Democrats don’t care about the security of our country.”

“I think the Patriot Act had gone too far (and needed to be amended) to balance constitutional liberties and security.”

South Sioux City Mayor Bill McLarty appreciates the candor.

“He’s up front,” McLarty says.  “He comes out here to find out where we are (on issues) and he’ll tell you want he thinks. 

“I’d rather have someone tell me what they think even if I disagree.”

Sometimes, McLarty says, he agrees with Hagel and sometimes he does not.

“Just like they don’t always agree with me,” he says, nodding toward his constituents across the room.

This trip seals Hagel’s enthusiastic support for a joint project between Northeast Community College in Norfolk and Wayne State College to launch a campus in South Sioux City on land donated by the city.

“It’s a terrific, terrific project,” Hagel says.

“I will support it in any way I can.”

One of the best parts of the job.

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Yes, Hagel acknowledges, his critiques of Bush administration policies in the Middle East probably are becoming increasingly blunt.

Does that reflect anger?

“I am very frustrated,” he answers, leaning forward in his seat to talk over the sound of the two engines rushing him toward the Sioux City airport.

“I see policies that clearly are not in the long-term interests of the country, policies that are damaging this country.

“We’re going to pay a price.”

Sure, Hagel says, “I’m not unaware that when I challenge the president, I’m politically outside the mainstream of my political party.  I have angered some people.

“Yes, it will have an effect on my future. I’m not bothered by it.”

It’s much more important to be true to himself, Hagel says.

“I don’t want to be sitting in a rocking chair someday having a regret I didn’t have the courage to step up when I could, even knowing full well it could end my political career.

“While I’m here, I’ll do anything I can to have the most impact, the most influence to change the country. This is the one time, the one place I can do it.”

If events were to demonstrate he may have been right all along in his warnings about Iraq and in his consistent call for balanced U.S. engagement to help broker an Israeli-Palestinian settlement, would  he get political credit for it?

“No American wants to have a politician say ‘I was right’ when American men and women have died,” Hagel responds.

“Let the American people decide who was right and who may have had the best judgment.”

Hagel is annoyed by those in his party who choose to use the war for partisan advantage.

That’s “cheap political rhetoric,” he says.

“At least as many Democrats have died in Iraq as Republicans.”

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No decision about 2008 has been made.

No trips to Iowa and New Hampshire, the opening rounds of a front-loaded presidential caucus and primary campaign, are on Hagel’s schedule. He was in Iowa only for a few minutes this day, long enough to cross the border from the airport to South Sioux City.

The latest report from Sandhills PAC, Hagel’s political arm, shows no spike in fundraising activity.

But Hagel acknowledges he has given “a lot of serious thought” to the fundraising challenge that confronts him if he decides he wants to enter the presidential sweepstakes.

Hagel figures $20 million is the price of admission. 

That’s the amount he believes is needed to remain viable through the early primaries and caucuses when the field of contenders will be significantly reduced and a small band of survivors will emerge.

If he can’t raise $20 million, he says, he wouldn’t enter the race. 

Hagel will make a number of appearances throughout the country in October after Congress recesses and goes home.  

He’ll remain visible.

And, no doubt, outspoken.

Among the three options he’s considering, which ranks third in his current thinking?

Nothing, Hagel says.  No order is forming.

Perhaps there may have been a revealing moment at the end of the day in South Sioux City. 

Maybe. 

Maybe not.

Here it is, as he answers a question at the bank: 

“When I first ran for the Senate, I said two terms might be enough. I don’t want politics to be the last job I have. Two years from now might be a good time to do that.”

Twelve weeks before this year’s congressional elections, Hagel is in no hurry to decide.

As presidential hopefuls pour into Iowa and New Hampshire, he’s sticking to his own timetable. 

He remains stuck far down the lists of most GOP presidential oddsmakers, largely because of the perception his buddy, Arizona Sen. John McCain, crowds him out as the more celebrated independent voice.

However, that perception ignores one big difference: McCain is a strong supporter of the war in Iraq.

“A lot of this is out of my control,” Hagel says.  “I’ll focus on what I can control, the kind of senator I can be. 

“Whatever’s going to happen will happen. It’ll all work out.”

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And now Iran.

“Some in this administration want some excuse to take military action,” Hagel says.

“That would be disastrous, catastrophic. It would enflame the Middle East in ways we can’t imagine today.”

The United States and Israel already are isolated in the region, Hagel says.

Two wars — in Iraq and Afghanistan — have strained the U.S. military, partly because of decisions made by “all these smart guys” who now talk about bombing Iran.

“The American force structure is broken,” Hagel says. “Everything’s breaking down. We’re chewing up our people.”

A war in Iran would require reinstitution of a military draft, Hagel says.

“I’m not sure you could get Congress today to approve a resolution” authorizing the president to go to war, he says.

“And if either house goes Democratic, no way.

“Congress certainly wouldn’t authorize unless there was very clear provocation,” Hagel says.

“We’re into two messes now, plus Lebanon.”

Democrats have been “weak, kind of like jello” in addressing these issues, Hagel says.

“The better option would be for the Republican Party to get back where it’s been, refocus the party to what it once was under Eisenhower, Reagan, Bush senior.”

The United States must regain credibility and trust in the Arab world, Hagel says, and focus on trying to help resolve the core issue, the Israeli-Palestinian dispute.

No doubt Iran has been fomenting violence, Hagel says.  But he has long argued the United States needs to engage Iran — and Syria — in direct talks, with Iranian plans to develop a nuclear capacity atop the agenda.

Bush administration spokesmen already are “ratcheting up charges” against Iran, he says, perhaps reaching for “an excuse to attack.”

“I hope this administration thinks through this very carefully.

“Who’s going to do the dying?”

Reach Don Walton at 473-7248 or at dwalton@journalstar.com.


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Rusty Rail wrote on August 18, 2006 5:44 am:
" Chuck Hagel is, like a lot of us, showing his frustration with the neo-cons. "Fiasco" by Thomas E. Ricks should be required reading. He very factually points out how this adminstration has gotten us into this mess by lying and inuendo. I hope that Chuck considers a run for the White House. "

Central Nebraska wrote on August 18, 2006 5:59 am:
" Was this an interview with Hagel or Bob Kerrey? Sounds more like Bob Kerrey all the time. And as far as restoring the Reagan years, whew!, that is a stretch! Reagan was for a strong military, and was always a spokesman for what is right with America. That's a far cry from what Hagel says in this interview. "

More Ex Republicans wrote on August 18, 2006 6:10 am:
" Once again, Hagel seems to be listening and processing information to restore democracy. That is refreshing. But loyalists to an arrogant party and misguided policy remain in the House, Fortenberry and Terry remain supporters of the fallen angels in the White House and Smith is a party extremist. Changing representatives in Congress is a step we owe our soldiers, those without health care and most of all those who believe in accountability when failure exists. Nebraska might have to change directions, but when you are given flawed information it should be considered a part of the journey in life...correct the course, move away from wrong. "

Kenneth H. Zike wrote on August 18, 2006 7:10 am:
" You finally got someting right. You do not fit. If I were you I would not put myself in the position of being embarrassed. Do not run for re election. We here in the Third District have been and will continue to do everything we can to convince the voters, we made a big mistake when we elected you. We can correct it in the next election. Some of us are surprised that seven out of ten people we talk to agree. You are a democrat who got elected as a Republican. You vote like a democrat, and constantly find fault with our President. You have failed to perform any of the important task we sent you to DC to accomplish. Your public comments regarding the Bush policy in Irag are designed to get your name in the media. Public name recognition for when you run for President. We can not stop you from running for office, we can be instrumental in making sure you dont get elected. If we have to go door to door in the District showing video clips and providing printed press releases to insure you never get the green light from the people, we will do exactly that. Your constant fault finding with President Bush and his policies are border line treason during war time. Waste your time and money if you wish. We have been and will continue to work against you. "

Kearney reader wrote on August 18, 2006 8:26 am:
" The headline,"Hagel awaits nation's mood" really says it all. A more appropriate headline might read "Hagel puts finger in air to see which way the wind of public opinion is blowing". America needs leaders who know how to lead and know how to make decisions. We already have enough wannabe politicians whose guiding principles are discovered by holding fingers in the wind and changing whenever the wind does. Those guiding principles will not win presidential elections. "

Jody wrote on August 18, 2006 8:30 am:
" It's sad that a thinking man, such as Hagel, stands almost no chance of becoming president in today's America. National politics is all about money and media-management, reducing issues to the lowest common denominator neatly packaged in simplistic sound-bites. Rove and the ex-Harvard cheerleader and draft-dodger Bush lead their followers in a chant of "War! War! War!" that drowns out any voices of reason. I suspect our Founding Fathers would be saddened to see what has become of their noble experiment. "

Once Bit, Twice OUT wrote on August 18, 2006 9:17 am:
" Whether or not you like Hagel, we need candidates to run! Look at the lii limited pool we have to select from! Third didtrict voters should be looking for fresh faces and new positions that are not more of the same old politics in Washington.,.It would be a surprise if the second district didn't remove their incumbent as the House continues to be puppets of Cheney and Rove. "

MM wrote on August 18, 2006 9:34 am:
" I don't consider myself a Republican nor a Democrat. I think Ronald Reagan was the greatest President ever. I didn't like Bill Clinton until I started listening to his speeches after he left office, and I have come to the conclusion that he was the smartest President ever. Listening to Chuck Hagel, I have the same senses that I have for Reagan and Clinton. Hagel looks at issues the way they need to be looked at. He is who he is first, not his party, and that is important. Most politicians today are more and more becoming 'salesmen' for their party, rather than leaders elected to lead. Chuck Hagel for President!! Now! Now! Now! "

Sean wrote on August 18, 2006 9:48 am:
" Sorry Chucky...don't waste our time. The Journal Star may feel it's necessary to kiss up to you to save your career but it's not going to make a bit of difference come election time. As for running for President. You'd only be embarassing yourself, although it would give the voters a laugh. "

Chris wrote on August 18, 2006 9:50 am:
" I'm sorry I balk at the notion that Hagel is "a thinking man". I disagree more with the recklessness of his statements than the actual positions. I don't think he has thought out a great deal of his positions. Case in point is his idea that we can negotiate with a lunatic regime like the one in Iran. "

fathead Neuman wrote on August 18, 2006 10:06 am:
" Bush has created more problems than he's solved. It's treason to stand with Bush and watch him undermine our constitution and start base-less wars. The invasion of Iraq was based on a lie created by the administration and our continued fighting there only makes it worse. Bush's foreign policy has destroyed US credibility around the world. Bush is our countries biggest traitor, and I'd like to see him tar and feathered! "

Vincent wrote on August 18, 2006 11:33 am:
" Immigration and farm subsidies are two critical areas from which to evaluate Hagel. Short term solutions may compound burdens on our nation; innovation and a lessor reliance on migrant workers and subsidies is important. Our nation must look ahead a couple of generations and not dwell on impulsive gambles or moods to set a long distance policy. Strategic policy uses tactics to sustain a vision, Hagel if looking only for oods is not the leader we need. "

James wrote on August 18, 2006 12:12 pm:
" I agree with Chris. I don't think Bush created a base-less war. If Nebraskans' would get their heads out of the coyatoe holes, they would find out the big cities are already fighting tremendous gang wars to the point that police are even riding with taxi cab drivers amoung other out of main ways of policing. Do you people really want the terriorist on our soil??? Hagel really doesn't know the scope of the problems in this country, let alone any other country. He's looking out for his personal "OPTIONS." "

Ryan wrote on August 18, 2006 12:45 pm:
" I would like to know what you suggest for the lunatic regieme in Iran??? Do you think we should bomb them or invade them??? I wonder what you thought about the Soviet Union in the early 80's. Could you imagine how terrible the cold war could have turned out if we didn't at least talk to our enemies??? Even if we think they are crazy we can't simply ignore them like our current President is doing. Hagel's ideas do show that he is a thinking man, until we work with Syria and Iran to try and find a solution to the Israel-Palestine problem we will never have peace. "

Hajaba wrote on August 18, 2006 1:18 pm:
" Bush as done next to nothing to fight domestic terrorists, gangs as James refers to them. Our borders are porous to drugs and immigrants, Bush has done next to nothing to change that. Bush is a next to nothing President who has shown us what an irrelevant politician in the White House can do. That is a dangerous and reckless Presidency voters cannot support and replacement of his pack or blind followers (such as Fortenberry, Smith and Terry) is critical. Our soldiers deserve better, they deserve stewardship and not be sacrificed capriciously. Israel is pulling out, we can too with strong tactical metrics. "

Chris wrote on August 18, 2006 3:43 pm:
" The assertion that the Bush administration is simply ignoring Iran is wrong. Through the international community they have laid out several conditions for Iran to be able to engage in direct negotiations with the U.S. One of those conditions that Iran cease enriching uranium, is crucial and we can't afford to budge on this point. Direct negotiations with duplicitous regimes proved our undoing when the Clinton administration niavely negotiated with North Korea. This resulted in putting the U.S. in the position to be blackmailed by North Korea. Comparing what Iran is to the Soviet Union is niave too. Reagan negotiated with the Soviet Union while harshly condemning what was at the time that time their crumbling system. And lets remember the Soviets were driven by necessity not by religious fanaticism as Iran is. We can't negotiate as Hagel would like with Iran, while Iran feels they are acting out the will of God and has Israel in its sights. Necessity once more has to force them to the bargaining table and that simply has not happened yet. And while China and Russia show indifference towards Iran's nuclear ambitions, this will not happen. Like it or not a hard line must be maintained. And it is my view that sanctions must imposed quite soon on Tehran. "

Dennis wrote on August 18, 2006 4:55 pm:
" Hagel is right - a military strike on Iran would be madness. The Iranian nuclear facilities are scattered all over the country and are located in civilian areas. Moreover, our intelligence doesn't know where all of the nuclear sites are located. As a result, most experts are of the opinion that a U.S. strike on Iran would be unlikely to take out Iran's nuclear facilities. Any bombing campaign aimed at taking out Iran's nuclear facilities would result in the deaths of thousand of civilians and inflame the Middle East. If the U.S. could successfully deter madmen like Stalin and Mao during the Cold War, they can deter the Iranian mullahs. "

Moody Man wrote on August 18, 2006 5:04 pm:
" My mood is rather sour, Senator Hagel. I can't stand your finger in the wind methodology when it comes to watching out for the security of this nation. You may as well just pick your nose with it, for all the good it does the United States of America. "

Lonnie Karre wrote on August 18, 2006 5:17 pm:
" I don't see how the Senator can make a statement that there were no terrorist in Iraq until the US arrived. It only takes an ounce of common sense to know that Syria, Iraq and Iran are infested and have been for years. Anyone who thinks there were no terroists there while Sadaam was in power is only kidding himself. Senator credits himself with being a straight forward speaker. When you discredit yourself in small areas also means that you are doing it in other areas as well. If this statement on terrorists is true than where does he get his information. He also credits President Bush for his policy in Iraq, but offers no alternate plan. Anyone can do that. "

Bozo wrote on August 18, 2006 5:36 pm:
" Mood swings and public opinion are wide and both Nelson and Hagel are far from meeting the needs of our nation (and inexperienced Ricketts and Fortenberry are even weaker). 10,000 troops on the border a realistic solution? That is a joke as baghdad is a confined area and insurgents rule...drug lords have little problem devising ways to traffick drugs and humans over a much broader area. Metrics and what Congress is suggesting is a total disconnect from reality. Get ready for the show, the clowns are putting their make up on! "

Kenneth H. Zike wrote on August 18, 2006 5:51 pm:
" Inflame the midddle east ??? Where have you been??. Have you watched the videos of the young people attending religious classes being taught in Iran that to kill non-believers, especially Americans, and die while killing them is a straight shot to paradise? Why can't people here understand those people do not want a truce, they do not want peace, they do not want to convert you to their way of thinking. They want to destroy you and everything built by non-believers. Iran and Syria do not want peace, they want time to develope the capablilty to incinerate our world. Why can't people understand we are in a fight for our very existence. Fight them now OVER THERE while they do not have the bomb, or fight them HERE after they have it and watch our cities go up in flames. They want us to destroy US. Why wont the American people accept the facts? The free world woundn't believe Hitler when he out- lined his plan for all to read in Mein Kamp. Now they wont believe a bunch of fanatics are determined to exterminate the "non-believers" on this planet. Their chant is taught to first-grade children "Death to America". What does that tell us? Every American citizen should be thaking god for President Bush, and giving him total support in our current war. Instead we have the politicians finding fault with everything he does. We were told by a tyrant that America would collapse from with in. If we continue on our current path, the religious nuts of Iran and Syria may get their wish. "A house divided can not stand". "

Central Nebraska wrote on August 18, 2006 6:34 pm:
" Dennis...who in the world is proposing a military strike against Iran? Name one person! "

Choice wrote on August 18, 2006 7:04 pm:
" America's future should always be on the mind of our members of Congress, just as a parent never loses sight of a childs future. Hagel should be bringing perceptions of citizens closer to policy. Such a transformation might employ a Jouse member, who has been mediocre as a Representative. Fortenberry as a policy writer for Hagel could be a better fit for this individual and the district...that is the vision voters could have. We need experienced people working in the same office, not promoting the same Bush support in Congress. "

whatever wrote on August 18, 2006 9:36 pm:
" Anyone who thinks for a moment that Iran will stop enriching uranium and will NOT produce a nuclear weapon just isn't living in the real world. Anyone that thinks diplomacy will do it, doesn't have a clue. One, there isn't much pressure the U.S. can put on Iran to stop them. They can simply stop oil production for a week or two and drive up prices and slow our economy down. Two, we won't strike them because, again because of the OIL CARD, a strike will jack prices right threw the roof. So too will sanctions. And what sanctions would we impose? An economic blockade? They can just turn the oil off for a few weeks and give us a taste of economic hardship. They probably wouldn't even need to do that, just imposing sanctions alone would probably spike oil prices and make their economy stronger. Really it boils down to this, if we want to eliminate the Iran nuclear threat then total war is really the only option, not something like Iraq, but a full blown reintroduction of the draft and a war fought WW II style, millions of men on the ground digging out the enemy. Then militarily occupy the country for a couple of generations and hunt down the fanatics like we did the Nazi's and the Japanese military culture and make sure Iran never rises again. Hagel is correct, an attack against Iran would be madness, but so is to allow Iran the bomb. These are interesting and dangerous times out there, do we as Americans have the courage and the stomach to face them? "

Jeff wrote on August 18, 2006 9:45 pm:
" Make no mistake about it. The only thing he's concerned about is himself! "

Drugs on Sale wrote on August 18, 2006 10:03 pm:
" Mood for a drug culture? The effective metric is absent as Congress keeps drug cartels prosperous when she ignores executive branch failures. The mood of the public should be anger as the war against terror and the war against drug imports fails...in the NYTimes, "The latest chapter in America’s long war on drugs — a six-year, $4.7 billion effort to slash Colombia’s coca crop — has left the price, quality and availability of cocaine on American streets virtually unchanged." Complacency is a partnership with Congress allowing,: "As much coca is cultivated today in Colombia as was grown at the start of the large-scale aerial fumigation effort in 2000, according to State Department figures. ¶Colombia, Peru and Bolivia, the leading sources of coca and cocaine, produce more than enough cocaine to satisfy world demand, and possibly as much as in the mid-1990’s, the United Nations says." This is under Hagel's watch. The watchful eyes of Fortenberry and Terry and Nelson are every bit as responsible. "