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Deena Winter: Pistol-packer tries to make point to City Council

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Tuesday, Jun 27, 2006 - 11:43:31 pm CDT

Tim Tyrrell Sr. went to the City Council meeting on Monday with a loaded 40-caliber Glock handgun on his hip.

And that’s perfectly legal.

Until now, council members haven’t been concerned enough about their safety to ban anything other than cell phones from the council chambers.

Even though plenty of angry citizens march down to city hall on a regular basis, there are no metal detectors at the door; no signs asking people to leave their guns at home.

Tyrrell was trying to make a point about the concealed weapons ban on the council agenda: Even if Mayor Coleen Seng’s proposed ban were to pass, nothing would prevent people from carrying around unconcealed weapons. (He did not testify at the meeting; the council won’t have a public hearing on Seng’s proposal until July 31.)

Tyrrell is a disabled veteran and firearms instructor who writes a blog called “From the Heartland.” He has debated the gun rights issue with Lincoln Police Chief Tom Casady, and even called Casady before Monday’s meeting to let him know he’d be packing heat.

Casady supports the mayor’s proposal to exempt Lincoln from recently passed state legislation that will allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons beginning in January. Tyrrell believes Seng’s ban would do nothing to prevent criminals from carrying guns.

“Anybody who wants to can go to a gun shop, buy a firearm, a box of ammunition and a holster without knowing anything about what they’re doing, strap it on and walk down the streets of Lincoln and be perfectly legal,” Tyrrell said.

The new state conceal-carry law will put people through their paces — a background check and training — in order to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon, he said.

“The people that the mayor is worried about are already carrying and they’re not gonna stop,” he said.

As it is, no city ordinance or council rule bans weapons from pistols to bayonets in the council chambers.

Years ago, one particularly colorful “regular” council meeting attendee often wore a single-action Colt revolver on his hip, Casady said, and eventually took to bringing all manner of weapons to the meetings, including a wooden club called a shillelagh.

“(That) worried me because he could be rather volatile at times,” Casady said.

While Casady believes Tyrrell is a law-abiding citizen, he doesn’t think it’s a good idea for people to go around displaying a pistol on their belt and doesn’t think weapons should be allowed into meetings of governing bodies. But if people are going to bring guns to council meetings, he said, “I’d rather have it out where I can see it.”

The Public Building Commission — which maintains city and county government buildings — considered banning weapons, but decided to wait to see what happened with Seng’s proposed ordinance.

State law will ban concealed weapons in some public buildings come January, but nothing in state law or Seng’s ordinance would stop people from bringing an unconcealed weapon into city hall, according to City Attorney Dana Roper.

Cotton statements

If Dick McMichael was trying to get the mayor’s attention by wearing a gray polo shirt with the words “IMPEACH MAYOR SENG” emblazoned on the back to a City Council meeting last month, he succeeded.

He was invited to meet with the mayor earlier this month and spent “well over an hour” to tell her what he thought of her proposal to ban concealed weapons in Lincoln.

McMichael said the meeting was cordial, but, “for some reason, I don’t think she likes me.”

His feelings apparently haven’t changed much either. He recently wore a new yellow T-shirt that says “IMPEACH MAYOR SENG” on the front.

Sounds like a lot of money

City Councilman Jon Camp wasn’t too impressed with the extra $250,000 that the mayor proposes to devote to economic development projects in her new budget.

The money would come out of the city’s “land acquisition fund,” a pool of money that ebbs and flows as the city buys and sells property.

During the council’s public hearing Monday on whether the city should help Hy-Vee Inc. build a new grocery store near 50th and O streets to revitalize the area, Camp noted that the deal calls for about $477,000 in land acquisition funds.

“That’s twice what the mayor proposed in her budget,” he said.

Quote of the week

“And after the grilling he took today, he’s probably happy to go.”

— Councilman Dan Marvin, on Assistant City Attorney Joel Pedersen’s last council meeting Monday, during which Councilman Camp aggressively questioned him about the Hy-Vee deal. Pedersen is leaving to go to work for the University of Nebraska.

Reach Deena Winter at 473-2642 or dwinter@journalstar.com.


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bob wrote on June 28, 2006 8:51 am:
" Why is it that criminals carrying guns seems not to bother officialdom and soccer moms one bit, but the very thought that a law abiding citizen might do so seems to throw them into a tizzy? "

Hemet wrote on June 28, 2006 9:37 am:
" Why is it that in an age of terrorism an idiot is allowed to carry a loaded hand gun into any official government sponsored meeting. This city council group deserves to be impeached for letting such a thing occur. In any civilized government building there should be security checks for any kind of weapon. Had I been in that meeting I would have mad a citizens arrest. "

Seriously wrote on June 28, 2006 9:42 am:
" OK - and having this law is going to change how the criminals act? I seriously doubt it - they'll carry whatever wherever regardless of what laws get passed. "

longwatch wrote on June 28, 2006 10:51 am:
" I fail to see how law abiding gun owners who choose to carry a weapon to protect themselves are "idiots" and "nasty, evil rednecks". I carry a pistol daily, know many others who do as well, and those pejorative terms are uncalled for as I see it. "

Kelly wrote on June 28, 2006 11:12 am:
" It states several times there is no law preventing a person from carrying a weapon into a city council meeting. "

Bob 2 wrote on June 28, 2006 11:51 am:
" Doesn't Camp know by this time how underhanded the mayor is? The price tags are always twice her proposals!! McMichael has the right idea of the tee shirt that says IMPEACH MAY SENG. As I understand she was on the council before mayor. Couldn't people see how underhanded she was before they voted her to mayor???? Sometimes I wonder about Nebraska people. And to clean house the whole city council deserves to be impeached, just watch them on TV, you'll fall asleep in 2 seconds except when they agree with the mayor to raise property taxes, that will wake you up for sure!! "

Stan Oswald wrote on June 28, 2006 6:52 pm:
" Tim Tyrrell walking into a city council meeting with a loaded pistol on his hip shows us the kind of people we're dealing with here. People like this shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons concealed or otherwise. I fully support Mayor Seng and chief Casady on this issue and encourage other sensible people to do the same. "

Tim wrote on June 28, 2006 7:43 pm:
" Hmmm.... there are now 48 out of 50 states that allow legal CCW. What is it about Lincoln that makes legal CCW a danger? Are the citizens of Lincoln just a handgun away from becoming homicidial maniacs? If the risks of legal CCW truly outweighed the benefits, CCW would be on the decline nationwide. "

CS wrote on June 28, 2006 7:50 pm:
" What sort of people would that be, Stan? People that follow the law? He broke no laws and has the right to carry listed in the Constitution of the United States. He's the last person I would be worried about. "

Son wrote on June 28, 2006 8:46 pm:
" I can't believe how ignorant some people can be I hope you clowns that have your head up your neither reigon get some brains one day (sooner than later). Why is it that 96% of all the other states can get along with CCW but Nebraska can't. How are we any different than them, and to jump all over a law abiding citizen for doing what the laws says he can. What is so bad about open carry that you clowns dont like. What is so scary about an honest law abiding citizen carring a firearm. Is it because you dont like the fact that he is not going to be a easy victom. If Cassidy doesnt think your everyday law abiding citizens should carry than neither should his officers, How are they any different. At least with CCW you know the person will be trained and pass a back ground check how hard is that to comprehend. Gang bangers carry concelled all the time. Why are you clowns not trying to stop them. Passing CCW doesnt mean that they get too it means that we honest law abiding citizens get to. Sorry that you dont believe in guns that is not our fault but wouldnt it make you feel better that if one day you find yourselves in trouble without means of communacating to the police that A gun carring CCW citizen is there to save your but. I would like to be able to make it home each night safely to a family that loves me very much. It would be fine if we all had a police officer to follow each one of us around but we dont so whats our next best option. "

Lew wrote on June 28, 2006 9:34 pm:
" Hemet, so a law-abiding veteran, who also happens to be a firearms instructor, is an idiot and a terrorist because...why? I'd trust him more than the average police officer any day. Think about it. "

ifeelsafe wrote on June 28, 2006 9:36 pm:
" I am so glad that i live in a city that looks out for its citizens. All of the other cities that have ccw have shootings all the time , the law abiding people shoot at people all the time,just like the wild west. When was the last time there was a shooting in lincoln? When was the last time a law abiding citizen was shot by a criminal? I can't think of any time in the last 20 years that has happened? If we let the "criminals" carry guns and dont let "law abiding citizens" carry guns then everything will be like it is now, living in harmony while respecting other people and the way they live. "

CS wrote on June 28, 2006 10:27 pm:
" ifeelsafe: I call BS. Cite statistics. My observations are made from personal experience carrying a weapon in other states and countries and dealing with the laws a regulations that go with it. Show us what cities and states have had this 'wild west' turn out? "

SFC Stu wrote on June 28, 2006 10:40 pm:
" Criminals carry weapons whenever and wherever they want. They don't follow the law, that's why they are criminals. The Mayor and Police Chief don't trust the law abiding citizens that pay their salaries. If the Mayor and Police Chief don't trust the citizens, why should the citizens trust them? It's a proven fact that in the other 47 states that have concealed carry, people that legally carry concealed, only shoot to protect themselves. Everyone has the right to defend themselves. I carry concealed in 35 states and hope that I never have to use my firearm to take a life. Being a senior citizen, I'm not a fighter anymore. If someone tries to rob or carjack me, I won't gurantee their safety. Concealed carry works in other large cities, it will work in this one too. "