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Letters, 5/11: Don't eliminate snacks

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 12:10:51 am CDT

To the health-o-holics who want to remove snacks and pop from our schools: You can have my zebra cake when you pry it out of my cold, dead, pudgy hands.

I mean, really, do you know what kind of black market you’ll create if you cut the snack supply from the industry’s biggest (no pun intended) users?  I’ll be able to sell oatmeal cream pies for a buck apiece! Not that I would.

Next you’ll want to have snack-free buffer zones around schools:  no Swiss cake rolls within 500 hundred feet of any elementary!

Now granted, you healthier-than-thou decision makers have a marginally good point. Building mini-marts inside the new high schools probably wasn’t the best strategy for combating the teen health crisis. But there are better ways to solve this problem than a zero-tolerance snack policy. 

For example, let’s make health food more affordable and make junk food way more expensive.

Seriously, at lunch a student can decide between an itty-bitty cup of Jell-O with fruit for 75 cents or a great big Cosmic™ Brownie for a mere 25 cents. With math scores being as high as they are, kids are starting to figure out they can buy many more brownies than Jell-O for their 75 cents.

Now I don’t deny that schools make junk food way too available, and I don’t really think you intolerant anti-snackites are plotting the demise of the vending machine, but I’m certain the only good that will come from this lunacy is the profit margin for the gas-n-gulp right across the street.

Let’s set limits, not eliminate. And leave my Little Debbie snacks alone.

Cory Free, Lincoln

The good life?

I read your recent editorial, “Revaluation is necessary for fair taxes,” with great interest and a very different perspective.

A native Nebraskan of 40 years, I moved to Los Angeles in 1994. After 12 years in California, I have been researching the possibility of “cashing in” on the value of my property here in Los Angeles and moving back to Lincoln. Life in California has been very good to me, but it seemed this move would be good for my future financial security, and I was looking forward to enjoying the culture and beauty Lincoln has to offer. 

In comparing the cost of living between Los Angeles and Lincoln, I was prepared to build “Energy Star” to compensate for the additional heating and air conditioning costs I was accustomed to paying for in Nebraska. However, the reality that real estate taxes on my home would increase four times upon relocation to a home valued at half of what my home is valued in Los Angeles County has made me wonder whether I am making a good financial decision.

As it stands, even with paying cash for a new home in Lincoln, I can only improve my monthly cost of living by $350. Perhaps a small price to pay for a sunny California lifestyle that I’ve gathered many happy memories from living?

The people of California passed a law in 1977 called Proposition 13. Officially titled the “People’s Initiative to Limit Property Taxation,” the real estate tax on a parcel of property is limited to 1 percent of its assessed value at the time of purchase, until the property is resold. This “assessed value,” however, can only be increased by a maximum of 2 percent per year. 

I thought your readers might find this perspective as much of a wake-up call as it has been for me. Meanwhile, I’m still basking in the California sunshine contemplating the true definition of “the Good Life.”

Jan Morris, Toluca Lake, Calif.

Gas-price outcry useless

Over the years I have noticed some things about how the oil companies set gas prices. First of all, they can set them anywhere they want. They tend to be cute about this by raising prices so high that we all scream bloody murder, then they roll back a dime or more, so now it seems like a bargain.

Our senators and congressmen will rattle their collective sabers and shout, something must be done! Absolutely nothing will be accomplished. Meetings will be held, printed words will be generated by the barnful, statistics will show ungodly profits, and still nothing will be done!

Do not make the mistake of believing that Washington gives a hoot about it. Remember, it’s our fault. We’re addicts, you know. My advice to you is don’t worry about it. Nothing will change, and life’s too short to waste our worry cells on a hopeless cause.

Oh, by the way, expect a manufactured gas shortage this summer. You’ll be more than happy to pay 4 bucks a gallon; addicts always do!

Patrick Maloy, Lincoln

Release energy info

Now that President Bush has stated that “our addiction to oil is a matter of national security concerns,” maybe it would be a good time for the administration to release all of the information relating to Vice President Dick Cheney’s secretive Energy Task Force and its  National Energy Policy.

This certainly would demonstrate the administration’s commitment to the people of this country and show that the Bush/Cheney team did not give the energy industry undue influence over national policy.

Of course, with all the financial support the oil companies have given Republicans, I doubt we will ever see much of this secretive group’s policy information.

David Brockman, Beatrice

Conceal-carry law backed

The mayor has come out against the concealed weapon law. What about the other 200,000-plus residents of this fair city? I believe the majority would favor giving the victims of crime a chance to defend themselves.

The Legislature (that represents all of us) decided to come forward into the 21st century and voted for it. So why should the mayor oppose it? The idea that it would increase crime has been proved to be a fallacy.

Do I plan to start packing a gun? Hardly. But I would like to have the privilege if the need should ever arise.

Leonard Hovey, Lincoln

Punish the employers

The illegals in this country are working for employers, most at wages Americans cannot or will not work for. There is all this talk about punishing the illegals! We should have stricter punishment for employers that hire illegals.

We should also, considering our failing social system, be more concerned with taxing the wages they make, and making sure the employers pay them properly, than just pocket the money. This would give the country another tax base and help shore up a system that our leaders have been raping to death.

This is fact, not conjecture.

Dan Longley, Lincoln


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Vicky wrote on May 11, 2006 7:31 am:
" Jan, If you do decide to move to NE, I would recommend waiting a couple of years. While the housing market in Lincoln is already saturated, it is my guess that in a couple of years, when the baby boomers all start leaving, they will be practically giving their houses away in order to escape. You should get a pretty good deal. Of course, your savings will be eaten up quickly with your new-found sky rocketing tax burden. Lets, see... stay in CA with the ocean, deserts, forests and mountains, or come to NE and suffer our taxes? Sounds like a no-brainer to me! This is no longer "the good life". Hasn't been for some time. I pity the youngsters who will ever desire to become property owners in this town. Better start saving your pennies kids! "

Sean wrote on May 11, 2006 7:37 am:
" Regarding the notion that we should punish employers for the hiring of illegal immigrants: I think it is a fantastic idea. There are measures in place but those penalties should be strengthened until sufficient deterrence is present to actually affect action. This same logic has been used to great success with huge tax breaks for corporations and wealthy individuals (many business owners) that encourage those savings to be invested in their business promoting economic growth. Basic economics: If you want to encourage something, subsidize it (which these tax cuts basically are...); if you want to deter something tax/penalize it. "

Allen T. wrote on May 11, 2006 8:23 am:
" Jan Morris: Far be it from to say anything bad about a limitation on taxes. They are vile and despicable. Any limitation on them is great. However, I have heard that Proposition 13 makes it difficult to sell property in California, because the new owner will be faced with a surge in tax valuation. Do you find that to be the case where you are, or is it a property-by-property situation? "

Scott wrote on May 11, 2006 8:24 am:
" I have read many testimonials like Jan's from former Nebraskans or current Nebraskans who are contemplating a more to or away from the state and are swayed by taxes. Just as the current debate over energy prices comes down to a supply and demand issue (it really does), so do taxes. We are a very large infrastructure state with a very small population. If we want the taxes to go down, we have to decide which of our services we would like to have eliminated. California has no such problem as their population base is much larger. Don't get me wrong. I would like lower taxation as much as the next person, but to continue services at the current level and cut taxes would be like fighting a war that costs billions and cutting taxes...wait-bad example there-but you see what I mean. If you want to know why taxes go up, take a look at the cost of providing health insurance to state employees. Take a look at the current construction of roadways and schools ( all of which is necessary) and then consider our population. Just a thought. "

Jim J. wrote on May 11, 2006 9:27 am:
" To Jan, it is good to see you have done your homework before moving back here. The reason taxes are so high in NE is that folks just think this is normal, and we have absolutely no say in the matter, except when we cast our vote on various bond issues. Nebraskan's rarely have the gumption to say "no" to any of these. Folks in my age group who are near retirement age have put a different spin on our "vacations". For the last several years we have been scouting out different states to move to when we retire. Besides all the usual, Googling city stats, tax rates, property values, crime rates and all the usual stuff, we have started actually stopping at every diner we can find to chat awhile with the locals. This is the very best way to find out what a community is really like. Ask the people who live there what they think about their community. What we have found is that folks are pretty much the same everywhere one goes. I will say, as long as you stay away from the big cities, folks are kinder and gentler the further south you travel. "Southern hospitality" is alive and well. The information we have gathered over the years has helped us choose the town we will move to. What we found is that, cities and towns all over this great land offer far superior services for a tiny fraction of the cost. One begins to wonder what "they" are doing wrong here? The schools are often far superior, as are the police, fire and snow removal. Gasoline is cheaper in every state bordering ours. We have visited communities where the sidewalks and roads are actually maintained, and the public areas are immaculate. The community we have chosen in a neighboring state offers everything we now receive in Lincoln and more, at 1/10 the cost to their tax payers. To retire in Lincoln would be absolutely foolish! If I could have transfered out long ago, I would have. "

Chad wrote on May 11, 2006 10:04 am:
" If you don't like Lincoln vote to change it or head off to some place cheaper but please stop whining. Regarding immigrants,I have a little bit of first hand knowledge and hard working immigrants are not stealing anyones jobs they are earning a living. Too many lazy, subsidized, dare I say "white folk" who won't take these jobs as they require actual work. andiIf a fence keeps out meth and lazy immigrants put it up but don't send back those that contribute. "

Josh wrote on May 11, 2006 10:43 am:
" Scott, I would disagree with you regarding taxes being high because we are a big state with a small population. There is no way this is the case, because if you look north of the border to South Dakota you'll find a state almost equally as big as Nebraska (bigger, I believe), with an even smaller population, but yet has no state income tax, lower sales tax, and much lower property taxes in every area I know of. And from my years living up there, I haven't noticed any services that we have here that people up there are going without--- so I think there is absolutely no reason for property taxes here to be so high- in fact since we have a bigger population, I would say they should be even lower than they are in SD. "

Dan wrote on May 11, 2006 11:41 am:
" I believe that the residents of Lincoln should be allowed to carry a weapon, however do not conceal it. If you really want to protect yourself put your weapon out where we all can see it. If you're hiding it you could be attacked and it could be too late by the time you get your weapon out. If we could see who was carrying guns then we would know who the crazy people are, and we could choose to stay away from them. You want to feel safe. I guarantee you will be a lot safer with your gun out in plain sight than hidden away in your purse, or your pants. I wouldn't even want to talk to a person with a gun out let alone try to rob them or assault them. Show you true crazy colors let that gun hang out, show us who you are, so we can tell that you are someone to be respected and kept away from. "

Josh wrote on May 11, 2006 12:01 pm:
" "Far be it from to say anything bad about a limitation on taxes. They are vile and despicable." Ok, maybe this is a dumb question, but if taxes are so vile and despicable, maybe you should stop driving to work on that nice paved road or walking on that nice sidewalk, maybe you should start using an outhouse instead of a sewer, maybe you should stop sending your kids to public schools or using the library. As much as I dislike paying taxes, it is a necessary thing. If we continually cut taxes, how does anyone expect to pay for public services? "

Sue F. wrote on May 11, 2006 12:03 pm:
" Josh, it could be that South Dakota makes a little more than Nebraska does in tourism. I think Scott was on the mark. "

Meg wrote on May 11, 2006 12:52 pm:
" Scott and Josh - AMEN! I was born in Nebraska, but becuase of my dad's job, have moved around quite a bit. I came back to Nebraska for college and have stayed ever since. While I definately consider this state "home," I have come to realize just how isolated we are from the rest of the country. This is very evident in how much people complain about any kind of change, whether it be taxes, construction, new commercial zones and more. If we want to compete with other states for jobs, tourism, and overall quality of life, we have to pay for it. Roads don't build themselves, students can't learn without quality schools and teachers, and jobs don't invent themselves. Most Nebraskans want quality goods and services, but don't want to pay for them. "

Katie wrote on May 11, 2006 12:57 pm:
" Cory Free - It's not just the "health-o-holics" that support the idea of taking snack and soda vending machines out of schools. I have struggled with my weight for many years and by far would not consider myself to be any kind of health guru. However, when I think back to the kinds of foods I ate in high school, I'm not really surprised I'm where I am today. A bagel, a Twix bar, and a soda for lunch? Definitely not a balanced meal. Keeping school students - and everyone, for that matter - healthy should be EVERYONE'S concern. It's proven: people who are overweight have greater health problems and greater health problems mean high health insurance premiums for all of us. So, Cory, if you are so intent on eating your Zebra Cake, you can do it at home. It appears you should be paying more attention in health class anyway. "

Theresa wrote on May 11, 2006 1:10 pm:
" LOL! I enjoyed reading Cory's statements. But it's true, they should make health food cheaper and accessible, like in Japan. "

Jim wrote on May 11, 2006 1:15 pm:
" Dan - that is truely a great idea. But - I'm afraid the concealed carry supporters won't get behind it. These people are obviously already pretty insecure about how short their gun barrel is, they aren't going to want it seen in public. "

Lindsay wrote on May 11, 2006 1:42 pm:
" Josh - as Sue said, South Dakota has tourism...and gambling. The bad thing is, the state is heavily dependent upon the gaming industry to fund a lot of government projects. Maybe if we had some sort of gaming in Nebraska we would find some tax relief. "

Lynn wrote on May 11, 2006 1:54 pm:
" Meg, there is no excuse for our tax burden. Take a good look at the 42 states who have cheaper taxes than Nebraska's at http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/taxesbystate2005/index.html. Now tell us why our tax burden is so high again? Many of these other states have no oil, tourism, high populations, or anything else you folks state we lack, and is the reason for our taxes being the 8th highest in the nation. You people will be forced to endure this burden as long as you do not hold your city government and school distict accountable. It will only get worse. I pity those who purchase their new home, then can only find work as a greeter at WallyWorld, because you have forced all the decent jobs out of town with your high taxes. Ironic, isn't it? "

Michele wrote on May 11, 2006 2:39 pm:
" Too much junk food in schools = unhealthy/fat children = low self-esteem = doing poorly in school = become fat,low-productive adults. "

Gary wrote on May 11, 2006 2:41 pm:
" Dan, Jim is only partially correct, and not even mildly funny. The sentiment that people should carry their guns out in the open in Lincoln has been brought up time and time again...and there's always the same answer. Let's say I decide to pack a .45 ACP on my hip as a walk around town. Every passerby with an irrational fear of guns, people much like you and Jim, will immediately call up ol' Chief Casady, will hysterically claim there's some lunatic walking down O Street with a gun, and Casady's goons will immediately tackle me and probably hit me with a few nightsticks for even trying to exercise power over my own safety. I will be charged with disturbing the peace and be forced to pay a fine even though I've done nothing wrong. While your idea sounds good in theory, the simple fact is that your own gun-fearing notions would never allow such an idea to be feasible. "

I'm gone too wrote on May 11, 2006 2:53 pm:
" to Meg, I moved to Lincoln from Omaha in 1970. With apologies to our friends in Omaha, I couldn't stand it there. Too big, too much traffic, too much crime, too much noise, etc. What I loved about Lincoln was the fact that we weren't like the big cities. I found that very appealing, not a turn-off. Now according to our mayor and LIBA and the rest, they want us to become just like Omaha. It's time to move! There is nothing wrong with being a mid-sized city with a small-town feel. We've totally lost that. "Isolated from the rest of the country", Meg? I wish! "

Jeanette wrote on May 11, 2006 3:11 pm:
" Scott, services never need to be reduced or eliminated to decrease taxes. You sound just like our lovely mayor! Every time she gets in a pickle with her budget, the first thing she wants to cut are police and fire fighters. Nebraska seriously needs to cut the waste first and foremost. Can someone tell me why our mayor wants to tear down the main post office for a new arena, when we are over 100 million in the hole for streets? This is the sort of thinking which has put us in such a bind, tax-wise. Isn't there somewhere else your new arena can go? Also, I worked for LPS for 5 years. I have seen the waste there. It made me so sick I had to quit and find work in a private school. There are many places where the belts can be tightened with absolutely no effect on any of us, and this would produce a significant decrease in our taxes. "

wake up! wrote on May 11, 2006 4:06 pm:
" Meg, businesses won't come here because we are not business-friendly. Our taxes are too high! Hellooooooo "

Jim J. wrote on May 11, 2006 4:19 pm:
" OK Josh, please share- which cities in the USA lack paved roads or sidewalks, or sewers, or public schools? Dang, I've visited almost every state in this country, and have never seen such a city. We don't have anything that any "low tax" city lacks. And how many sidewalks has this city repaired since we voted to make it their job? Our streets and sidewalks are a disgrace. We should have more to show for the taxes we pay. "

Josh wrote on May 11, 2006 4:22 pm:
" Lindsay and Sue- yes, South Dakota has tourism and gambling, and that may make up for some of their tax revenue, but that doesn't explain the many other states with similar size, small population bases, and much lower property taxes. How about North Dakota? I have family there, as well, and they have an even smaller population base than South Dakota, and tourism is as nonexistant as it is here in Nebraska. There is absolutely no reason for property taxes to be as high as they are here, I just wish I knew where all of that money was being wasted, because we don't have anything above and beyond what any other states have. "

give me a break wrote on May 11, 2006 4:29 pm:
" Chad, we're leaving as fast as we can! Please be patient and tolerate our whining while we finish packing! "

fb wrote on May 11, 2006 5:09 pm:
" Aren't we a little paranoid Gary? Do you really think Casady's goons will actually tackle you and beat you with nightsticks just for carrying a gun on your hip? OK, they might if you pulled it out and waved it them and then they would be justified. I agree with Jim. Anyone thinks they have to carry a concealed gun are extremely insecure about more than how short their gun barrel is. "

Lee wrote on May 12, 2006 8:15 am:
" I am originally from Nebr., but moved to Kansas about 4 yrs ago. I find it amazing how all of you complain about taxes, immigrants taking jobs etc. First of all, I used to think that Ne. was the "tax me state", not anymore. Kansas is higher in taxes than NE., & it has a small population if not smaller. I pay about $100. to $150. more a year per vehicle to register it than I did in NE., & they are the same vehicles! Real Estate taxes are at 99% of the value. A home valued at $27,000 where I live is taxed at $949.00 a year! Now that is over taxing. As far as immigrants go, I work with a few. Why? because the job they are doing were originally held by fellow Kansans, but decided it was beneath them. Long hours, low pay, so the employer brought in migrant workers. They work twice as hard as the original employees-my hat goes off to them. Then lets talk wages. I work as a secretary for this employer. You know the drill, I do everything that management doesn't want to do. I get paid $5.50 per hour. Its not just this job that is paying low. Walmart in the largest town closest to me starts everyone out at minimum wage, so does McDonalds, & alot of other places. Heck, Mcdonalds in Lincoln start out paying at least 2.00 more per hour. But yet we pay higher taxes! Our median income where I live is $20,000!, but yet we pay higher taxes than in other county in Kansas. So think again about your taxes, you are far better off than we are. "

realist wrote on May 12, 2006 9:01 am:
" Meg, I will be anxious to hear how wonderful you think "change" is when it is YOUR job or YOUR business this mayor has pushed right out of town. Do come back and tell us! "

Yup wrote on May 12, 2006 10:31 am:
" Lee, the overall tax burden in Kansas is ranked 15th highest in the nation. Nebraska's is ranked 8th. They are both too high for what we get for our bucks. "

Mike C Peterson wrote on May 12, 2006 4:52 pm:
" Dan, I'm guessing that Gary's comments below don't impress upon you why open carry is not the best option. Since you clearly think he and others like him are insane for even suggesting firearms for defensive use, then you probably don't care if he gets harassed by police. So, here are some additional reasons. Please consider these, as they are responsible, sober conclusions drawn from research in the fields of criminology, sociology, and psychology: First, open carry invites machismo challenges from immature people. "Oh, you think you're bad?" is how those altercations usually start. Ask any police officer - open carry is a serious burden. Second, open carry invites theft. You are openly displaying a $200-$1000 object on your hip - an object which must be removed and left somewhere unattended while you enter a government building, school, etc. Concealment reduces the exposure to theft because it hides the valuable. Third, open carry frightens people more than concealed carry. To the uninitiated, the visual presence of a gun spikes adrenaline and initiates irrational fight-or-flight responses - much like a bee buzzing your head. If a gun is present, it only becomes unsettling to fellow citizens if it can be seen. Fourth, open carry makes it easy for criminals to identify armed and unarmed people. With concealed carry, everyone enjoys the benefits of only a handful of people having permits. Criminals have to change predatory patterns for everyone, and there's good evidence showing that this actually happens in other states. Fifth, in less-than-lethal physical altercations, such as fist fights, open carry makes it more difficult for a defender to prevent a bad person from taking a gun away from them. An aggressor can't try to grab what they don't know is there. Again, ask any cop - many carry two guns - one you can see, and one that you can't. Lastly, your uneducated guess about the speed with which someone can deploy a concealed defensive firearm is incorrect, and your purse example is an excellent illustration about why. A woman approaching her parked car in a darkened parking lot has the option of placing her hand on her gun while it is still in the purse. This avoids frightening people or drawing attention to it, but cuts in half the time it would take her to present a gun from an exposed holster, and also doesn’t let on that she has a gun in the first place. She can attempt to deescalate a confrontation or escape from it without compromising the speed of a lethal response, or exposing the capabilities of her last line of defense. But what do I know – I’m crazy, and you’ll want to stay away from me too. "