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Letters, 4/13: Employee had leadership

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Thursday, Apr 13, 2006 - 12:10:14 am CDT

How very disappointing that by demonstrating his leadership skills, Felix Rivas-Sanchez lost his job at King Kong restaurant. Rivas-Sanchez was working very hard on Monday for something much more important than keeping the burgers cooking for a few hours.

His address to the rally was powerful and well prepared. He quoted an American president, cited historic failures of border fences and spoke to the hearts of all in attendance.

It would seem that an employer would be thrilled that they have an employee with the obvious passion and leadership we saw from Rivas-Sanchez. Now it appears that some other lucky organization can hire this remarkable young man. As for King Kong, I won’t know if they will survive, as I will not stop there again.

Si Se Puede.

Dan Kunzman, Crete

Hagel wimps out

The United States Congress is in a two-week Easter break, ostensibly to return to their home districts, celebrate Easter with “home folks” and interact with their constituents about issues facing Congress, the currently most urgent of which is the problem of illegal immigration.

So what does Sen. Chuck Hagel do? He goes on a trip to Afghanistan, Pakistan and India. Nice wimp-out at taxpayer expense, Senator.

By the way, am I the only one who has noticed that Hagel has a link on his Web site stating “En Espanol”?  Just whose side is he on, anyway?

Gene Gausman, Milford

Health care a priority

I am thrilled that the Legislature overrode Gov. Dave Heineman’s veto of money for community health care clinics in Nebraska. Finally, resources for the poor are defended from the ever-present or threatened cuts by the government.

We are lucky to have two very busy and crucial community health care centers in Lincoln: Nebraska Urban Indian Medical Center (NUIMC) and People’s Health Center.

At NUIMC, we had more than 8,000 patient visits last year. This number represents a very diverse population, the vast majority of whom are uninsured or on Medicaid. We provide not only primary health care services but also transportation, interpreting services, comprehensive health education and social support.

Because we provide all these services at no cost to Native individuals, the threat of cuts to Urban Indian Health Services by the federal government would directly and adversely impact our ability to continue providing these services. Although we do not receive any of the appropriated money in question, I support the preservation of state and federal funding for community health clinics in Nebraska. Providing quality health care to all our citizens is and should be a top priority.

Patricia Spitzer, Adams

Ear piercing cruelty

I was walking through the mall the other day and heard a continuous stream of blood-curdling screams emitting from the mouth of a little girl about 50 feet ahead of me. I assumed it was another of those many children whose parents allow them to throw fits without consequences. I was wrong.

The little girl, who was approximately 3 or 4, was screaming loud and clear that she didn’t want her ears pierced, but that didn’t matter. The mother and the clerk at the earring outlet held her tightly like when you brand a cow and punctured her ear lobe anyway as she struggled to get away. The screams turned into muted sobs of relief until the little girl realized that the other ear was next, and the screams got even louder.

I was so mad that I could feel my blood pressure rise! Even if the little girl had agreed to this or even wanted to do this earlier, she is not old enough to make an informed decision like this one. And if she was all for it until it was time to do it, then for heaven’s sake, let her change her mind and go home without holes in her ears!

We, as a society, get all worked up when a parent slaps a child who has it coming, or when a teacher simply grabs a child at school who is out of control and becoming physical with the teacher, or when a teacher uses “red ink” to mark mistakes on papers; but somehow, we allow a clerk to shoot holes through a child’s ears even when that child is absolutely against it. We just walk on by as if nothing is happening?

The ironic thing is, if one of our soldiers did this to a terrorist to extract important information about upcoming terrorist attacks, he would be condemned by our liberal press to no end and would have to stand trial for it. Our society is mentally ill!

Brian L. Kamler, Lincoln

Thanks for funeral bill

I would just like to take this opportunity to thank and congratulate Gov. Dave Heineman on signing the bill to prohibit protesters from disrupting military and civilian funerals. Thanks to all responsible for your fast action.

Tom Harris, Lincoln

EPA standards hurt

Yet again, the Republican leadership and the Environmental Protection Agency leadership conspire to weaken our health and our safety. With blatant disregard, not to mention misrepresenting recommendations from their own scientists, the EPA recently proposed new air pollution standards that do not sufficiently protect public health. Particulate matter pollution is linked to heart disease, respiratory ailments, and premature death. The EPA needs to hear from you.

To make matters even worse, Rep. Paul Gillmor (R-Ohio) is proposing legislation that ensures that the EPA need do nothing about regulating persistent organic pollutants under the Stockholm Convention (to which the United States is a signatory). The exact words in this legislation are that the EPA may regulate only “to the extent necessary to protect human health and the environment in a manner that achieves a reasonable balance of social, environmental and economic costs and benefits.”

This not only poses an opportunity for years of litigation that favor the chemical companies, such as Monsanto, it is basically a license for widespread pollution. This legislation was basically written by the chemical industry and does not serve us nor our children in the years to come and again ignores (or misrepresents) the recommendations from EPA scientists.

Peter Dowben, Charles Bessey Professor of Physics, University of Nebraska-Lincoln


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Nate wrote on April 13, 2006 12:27 am:
" Brian Kamler, "great" letter. Keep drinking the Koolaid and listening to Rush. "

Allen T. wrote on April 13, 2006 12:27 am:
" Dan Kunzman: He skipped his shift and got fired. That's what happens when you don't show up for work. It was his choice and now he's whining about it....or is allowing others to whine for him. I will be going to King Kong more often now, since I know they don't allow political pressure to lower their standards. "

Rogr wrote on April 13, 2006 12:42 am:
" Gene, I haven't figured out what Hagel is up to except Hageling, get it. He doesn't seem to be much interested in anything but trying to run for Office. He needs to run away and stay away "

Lindsay wrote on April 13, 2006 7:07 am:
" Gene: The way I see it, if the internet had been around during your grandparents time there probably would have been a link "In German" or "In Czech". My grandfather didn't learn English until he went to school...his family spoke Czech at home. How soon we all forget! Anyways, last I checked Afghanistan, Pakistan and India aren't exactly hot vacation spots...sounds like our senator is taking a working vacation! "

John wrote on April 13, 2006 7:31 am:
" Hagel was "Wimping out" by visiting first hand to spots in the world that need our attention? If I could I would have my tax dollars used to fund americnas going on those kinds of trips abroad armed with diplomacy rather than rifles. I am hoping thatGausman's letter was simply an example of finely written parody... "

janie wrote on April 13, 2006 7:45 am:
" Way to exploit the unfortunate pain of a poor little girl to get your political point across, Mr. Kamler. Tell me, are you really concerned about her or did you just see it as an opportunity? "

Tom wrote on April 13, 2006 8:20 am:
" Well Dan, I do not think King Kong will have any worries about losing you as a customer. I have never eaten there but I will make sure I stop by and purchase something now. Mr. Rivas-Sanchez was given a straight forward choice. Work or we will find someone who is reliable enough to be there. He chose not to go to work knowing full well that he could lose his job if he did not go. He made an informed choice, now we have to listen to people whine about it? Besides, and this is an "IF" because I do not know if he is here legally or illegally. If he is here illegally what should have happened to him and any other illegal alien at that march was having the INS there to do their job and arrest and send the illegals back to where they belong. They would have been easy to spot; they were the ones caring the Mexican, Guatemalan, and various other flags, while chanting in a foreign language, showing just how much they want to be Americans! "

GMP wrote on April 13, 2006 9:05 am:
" I watched the rally from my office bldg. It was an awesome sight, history being played out before my eyes. Shame on any business who fired an employee for attending. It was a once in a life-time opportunity. Anyone who did attend should be proud of themselves. Any business who could not make arrangements for employees to be gone for that amount of time is not a company I would like to do business with. "

Josh wrote on April 13, 2006 9:10 am:
" Dan, I think you ought to try telling your boss you are going to miss work today to attend a protest and see how he/she reacts- on short notice without getting someone else to fill in for you (especially critical if you are in any kind of service industry where being short even one or two people is very serious). "

Laura wrote on April 13, 2006 9:46 am:
" Brian - I wish I had been at the mall witnessing what you saw. And I can't agree with you more...if one of our soldiers were to do that, oh my goodness. It's just really too bad, you see it everyday. SOME parents don't care about what's in the best interest of the children, they think more of themselves, and this needs to stop now. Amazing that this is evident just by someone having their kids' ears pierced. PARENTS -- WAKE UP! "

Sean wrote on April 13, 2006 9:59 am:
" While Kamler attempts to make a point about what can and can not be done to individuals in certain contexts he seems to forget one key point...he let it happen and didn't intervene. I'm certain that if he were truly mortified he would have done something at that time rather than write a passive-aggressive letter after the fact to people that were not even involved in the situation. Obviously, he gave his implied consent to that action by not stepping in to change the situation. I wasn't there Mr. Kamler to stop the situation - you were. YOU let it happen...WE did not. If we are truly to believe all of the scenarios you describe are on par with one another, you also imply that you are OK with slapping and grabbing children, becoming physical with teachers and torturing individuals. The diagnosis of mental illness seems to be misdirected... "

Jason wrote on April 13, 2006 10:33 am:
" Now going to King Kong to eat because they fired someone who attended a protest about immigration sounds like it borders on racism. I'm not calling anyone names. I'm just saying eat there or don't eat there because of the food not because they fired someone. I'm not eating there because that it is a little bit out of the way just to get a below average gyro. "

alw wrote on April 13, 2006 10:35 am:
" Why are some of you upset at Brian's letter? I think it's a very good point. Why would you pierce the ears of a screaming child? Clearly the child didn't want to have it done. I would have felt terrible if I had seen this, too. Maybe Mr. Kamler is trying to turn it into something political, I can't say for sure. However, it is still a good point-which is more than I can say for you Nate-your agument was weak at best. Keep drinking the kool-aid? What are you trying to imply exactly? Did you even think about the child in the letter, or did you just read the last paragraph? The main thing I got out of it is some parents just do not use common sense. Go out in public for one day and you can figure that out pretty easily. Point well made Mr. Kamler! "

Bill wrote on April 13, 2006 10:40 am:
" GMP, a "once in a lifetime opportunity"? I could swear I saw one of these "once in a lifetime opportunities" a couple of weeks ago. Some high school kids, protesting America's right to control our borders. Check your calender. There is another of these "once in a lifetime opportunities" scheduled for May 1st. Since it is politically correct to refer to Illegal Immigrants as "undocumented workers" can people now tell the police that they are an "undocumented" concealed weapon carrier, or an "undocumented" motor vehicle operator? How about drug dealers being called "undocumented" Pharmicists, and prostitutes being called "undocumented" massage therapists? Awesome, we can cut crime in half by excusing away violations of the law. "

Katie wrote on April 13, 2006 1:17 pm:
" Tom, that was quite possibly the most closed-minded thing I've read in a long time. Someone forgot to inform you that just because a person is proud of their heritage or speaks the language of their native country doesn't mean they are not in our country legally. Quite frankly, it's this diversity that makes our nation great. Heaven knows I wouldn't want everyone to be like YOU. "

CG wrote on April 13, 2006 2:14 pm:
" To all of you upset about a little girl getting her ears pierced, do you show the same compassion to all newborn little boys who get a "not fun procedure" of their own? "

Frank wrote on April 13, 2006 2:49 pm:
" Nate- Your ability to put down Brian was mesmerizing. Stay in school. Someday you actually might write a decent editorial. As for Mr. Kamler, you have no idea what was truly going on in that situation. Everyone reacts to a wailing child on instinct. You may have been appalled, but it really was none of your businesss unless the child was in imminent danger, which she wasn't. Ever seen a child cry when their blood is drawn? It's no different. As for the soldier analogy, I may agree with you, but drawing this comparison with situation was a little nebulous. "

Laura wrote on April 13, 2006 2:56 pm:
" CG - A 3-4 year old girl screaming and crying because she's scared to get her ears pierced is NOT the same as a MEDICAL procedure done on a newborn boy. Get a life, you know you didn't make a good point. "

A wrote on April 13, 2006 9:43 pm:
" CG, I think A LOT of people are completely ignorant of the fact that circumcision of newborn males is a "medicalized" form of genital mutilation. They think nothing of it because it is considered "normal" or "the right thing to do" in this country. If it is the right thing to do, then why does the American Academy of Pediatrics official statement say that there are not enough benefits to this procedure to recommemd it be performed routinely? What if the same thing was done to newborn girls? Would that be acceptable too? Maybe anyone who hasn't read up on the subject should look into it further. You will uncover some of the most disturbing information about this so-called "medical" procedure. These babies are not capable of giving their consent to be mutilated. Who is standing up for their rights? "

CG wrote on April 14, 2006 8:13 am:
" To A: Exactly my point. Who IS standing up for their rights? Thank goodness my son's doctor helped educate me and gave me cause to research it myself. I wish more people would do the same. "

peb wrote on April 14, 2006 8:25 am:
" Obviously Laura has not been in the room or even nearby when a tiny 2-3 day old baby boy is being circumcized. I worked on a OB unit in a hospital and could hear those baby boys. "

Lisa wrote on April 14, 2006 1:40 pm:
" Good for King Kong Restaurant!!! "

Ed wrote on April 16, 2006 12:57 am:
" Consider me as one who will not go to King Kong ever again. Accomodations can be made for those who would like to attend political protests. He was not asking to take the day off to golf (which I'm sure at least one other poster here probably has done). He was taking the time to participate in civil debate taking place on a key issue. I'm sure that if he were white and asking to go to a pro-life rally, many of you would be picketing King Kong and trying to block people from entering. Protest is a historically significant thing. So is sacrifice for your cause. The employee in this case sacrificed, thus showing true passion and dedication. He resigned his job so that he could attend, instead of just not showing up to work. He acted responsibly in relation to his employer. Unfortunately his employer couldn't show any compassion to him. He wasn't asking to politicize the workplace, only to join a well-organized protest (the largest I can remember ever in Lincoln). That's not a business I would want to work for or one that I will patronize in the future. Disrespect for employees is not acceptable in my book. "

Felix Rivas-Sanchez wrote on April 16, 2006 8:34 pm:
" For the record: I was not scheduled to work on the day of the rally. I left on my own terms in response to the blanket threat of anyone who attended would lose thier job. This country has not been one to submit to threats and I follow the theme. I don't believe in extreme measures of mass amnisty or military presence to solve the sisutaion of undocumented workers. I believe that with patience and communication a compromise can be resolved that will be beneficial to the progress for this country. There are many factors that play into the current state of the economy, from abuse of the welfare system to outsourcing jobs overseas (for cheaper wages). Could you imagine how many jobs would be open if big companies stayed here. What could our Senate and Congress do to address that issue? Undocumented workers were here during Reagan and Clinton's tenure when the majority of public thought the economy and job market was good. There is no quick fix and I think BOTH sides should realize this and only by working together can we a nation progress and continue to be a leader in the modern free world. Anyone that heard my speech would understand exactly where I stand. "

SF wrote on April 17, 2006 12:07 am:
" I applaude Rivas-Sanchez for what he did. Standing up for something he did. Taking pride in his heritage. What happened on 4-10 is much bigger than anyone of us. It was history in the making. Think about if this was happening to your family, or people of your nationality...how would react? Who cares if you goto King-Kong now more because Rivas-Sanchez isn't working there, not a big deal. He stood up for what he believed in, something that meant more than a paycheck. This country is made up of people of all nationalites, that speak multiple launguages and have many religions. That's what America what it is. We are in the 20th century now. Realize it. "

Allen T. wrote on April 17, 2006 2:14 pm:
" SF: This has nothing to do with nationality. Legal immigrants are welcome in this country, no matter where they come from. I'd gladly employ them, or work for them, regardless of their race, color, creed, you name it. The issue here is what to do about people, of numerous nationalities, that ignore the laws of this country. We have a word for such people. They are called criminals and their nationality doesn't ever need to come up. People in this country attempt to insert race into issues that have nothing to do with race so that they can appear to have the moral high ground. SF: Most of your comments are true, and happily so. This country is made up of many diverse cultures and the country is better for it. However, your comments do not address the crux of the situation. Nearly every country in the world has such a process, many of them much more restrictive than our own. No one is demanding that legal immigration end or that immigration be restricted further (or at least, no one that I want to associate with). However, something must be done to honor those that adhered to the law. There must be some consequence for those that do not adhere to the law. Seeing as we promote the concept of equal treatment under the law in this country, there must be equal treatment in this situation. Some immigrants have followed the law, and should be embraced for their culture and what it brings to our nation. Others have not followed the law, and we must not shy away from treating them as any other criminal simply because they happen to come from a different country and may be of a different nationality. Doing anything else makes us hypocrits. "

Jen wrote on April 17, 2006 3:41 pm:
" I must agree with Tom. Legal Americans must work, pay taxes and lead a law-abiding life while we have illegal immigrants wanting special priledges because they don't want to take the time or understand how to become legal citizens or speak our language. "

Gus wrote on April 18, 2006 8:28 pm:
" I'll support ILLEGAL persons working without being taxed, and receiving FREE health care, which is bankrupting Southern California's emergency rooms at TAXPAYERS' expense, as long as I get free health care, and my income is not taxed. If you would look into some facts, you would see what Mexico does to people who illegally cross into their borders....not pleasant at all. "

Bona wrote on April 18, 2006 10:24 pm:
" About the piercing comment: I completely desagree. The little girl was screeming I believe because she was scared. But it's something she will appreciate later. Cause I believe more than one person will agree with me that a women look better with earings than without. Would you skip a polio vaccine shot for your child because he doesn't want to have it? ....or because he's screaming? Do it and I bet you when he grows up, he will hate you for the rest of his life. "

Jeanette wrote on April 19, 2006 1:00 pm:
" Bona- get real! Any woman can choose to have her ears pierced. This child obviously did not have a choice. That's just wrong. To compare ear piercing to polio vaccines is totally funny. One is fluff, and the other saves lives. No comparison at all. Were you serious? "

Pat wrote on April 19, 2006 3:18 pm:
" Re: Ear Piercing - I'm wondering, Brian, if the mother of the child didn't have enough sense to stop the procedure - why wouldn't the clerk stop it? I totally agree with you, Brian - piercing should come at a time when the CHILD wants it - not MOMMY. "

Sabrina wrote on April 20, 2006 2:48 pm:
" About the piercing comment... seriously I read that in the paper and again on the website... WHO CARES? I got my ears pierced when I was little and I'm very thankful for my mom doing it for me. I'm sure I was screaming and bawling too! I think some of us just need to worry about our own lives and realize that sometimes parents do know what they are doing. When you see a kid in the supermarket screaming and crying because they don't want to go down a certain isle do you also say; "Oh my gosh, why is that mom doing that to her child?" Give me a break people we have worse problems in the United States then worrying about whether a mom should pierce her child's ear or not... "