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BY MATTHEW HANSEN / Lincoln Journal Star

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2006 - 12:08:58 am CDT

Felix Rivas-Sanchez doesn’t think he had a choice.

Yes, he could have shown up Monday for his regular shift at King Kong restaurant.

He could have tried to forget the boss’s ultimatum to every Hispanic worker but him before Monday’s march to the Capitol:

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Marchers head to the state Capitol. (Jill Peitzmeier)

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But that would have been impossible, he says, just as it was impossible to miss the waving American, Mexican and Guatemalan flags and the chants of Si se puede! (“Yes we can!”) reverberating through  downtown.

No, no choice at all.

Monday morning, he weaved through Lincoln’s largest Hispanic protest ever, past people shaking signs that read, “We Are America’s Backbone” and “Pilgrim = Immigrant” and “Who’s Gonna Build Your Fence?”

He waved an American flag. He  led chants. He pumped his fist. He sweated  through his nice black suit.

And when it was his turn to speak, he clutched the microphone and told an estimated 4,000 protesters that a fence to keep out illegal immigrants would meet the same fate as did the Berlin Wall and the Great Wall of China.

“Walls … do … not … work!” he yelled, stringing out every syllable and sending the crowd into a particularly frenzied Si se puede!

The march from Cooper Park to the Capitol and then to the Federal Building was ostensibly to oppose stricter immigration laws — a wall across the U.S.-Mexican border, for example, or a plan to force some illegal immigrants out of the country.

A dozen speakers exhorted lawmakers to treat legal and illegal immigrants with compassion. They chided Sen. Ben Nelson and Gov. Dave Heineman for what they perceive as those politicians’ anti-immigrant stances.

They urged the crowd to boycott Lincoln businesses Monday, a boycott put to the test at rally’s end when an ice cream truck pulled up next to Cooper Park. Some protesters got in line only to shuffle away, sufficiently shamed, after other protesters yelled at them for supporting the local economy.

But it was the crowd’s size, and its passion, that speakers and marchers said would remain as immigration issues change.

That crowd clogged city streets, backed up downtown traffic and interrupted the normalcy of a Lincoln Monday for office workers who watched the march from the sidewalk.

“We will not go away,” said Miguel Carranza, a University of Nebraska-Lincoln sociology and ethnic studies professor. “We’re not leaving this city.”

Pascal, who asked his last name not be used, attended Monday’s rally because he wants an easier path to American citizenship.

The undocumented worker is employed at Farmland in Crete, where he operates a machine that skins cattle. That machine also will cut off his finger or hand if he’s not careful, he said.

“The size (of the crowd) will make people understand what we’re thinking,” he said through an interpreter.

“We need rights.”

Juana Martinez marched because she says she wants a better life for her children, a 6-year-old and a 5-month-old.

A better education. Better job. Health insurance.

She held a sign that said, “This is for you, Papa,” meant to signify the sacrifices of the Mexican, Guatemalan and Honduran parents who strive to improve their children’s lives.

Some people don’t seem to understand that, she said.

“We’re here to work.”

For Marty Ramirez, the protest marked a turning point for the area’s Hispanic population.

The longtime Lincoln resident and activist served as the march’s master of ceremonies.

The protest was easily the largest of its kind in the 33 years he’s lived in Lincoln, he said, a visual example of disparate immigrant groups coming together and flexing their newfound political muscle.

“We can no longer be an invisible minority,” Ramirez said.

Later: “We’ve been pushed and pushed. Now we’re saying, enough is enough.”

Felix Rivas-Sanchez, who says he resigned as King Kong’s manager over the weekend, thinks Monday’s march served an even larger purpose than politics.

Nick Triantafillou, the owner of King Kong, says Felix was fired for trying to convince Hispanic workers and Triantafillou’s 18-year-old son to attend Monday’s march.

Some of his Hispanic workers may have been replaced if they had attended the protest, he said.

“You don’t like to work, go demonstrate,” he said. “I gotta protect my business.”

Rivas-Sanchez hopes the march was one small step toward what he admits is an idealistic goal: He wants people to stop building walls and start tearing them down.

“This is bigger than me.

“It’s bigger than any paycheck.”

Reach Matthew Hansen at 473-7245 or mhansen@journalstar.com.


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Lori wrote on April 10, 2006 11:57 am:
" Since when does someone who illegally and criminally entered the United States have rights, what about the American's rights???? "

Lori wrote on April 10, 2006 12:00 pm:
" Oh I forgot we don't have any rights as Americans, because all the big wigs need to line their pockets by saying NO AMERICAN WANTS THIS JOB! This is so wrong, they should have to do it legally! "

TC wrote on April 10, 2006 12:45 pm:
" I am happy to see the hispanic community coming together for the good of their people. Regardless of the legality issue at hand, the fact that they are uniting is dynamic. The hispanic gang violence and hatred for opposing gangs in Lincoln is big -- I am hoping this will help some of those individuals come together for a proactive movement. "

Joe wrote on April 10, 2006 12:54 pm:
" Waving a Mexican flag protesting for your "rights" in this country just tells me you need to go home. Now. "

Alex wrote on April 10, 2006 12:56 pm:
" How can anyone possibly control immigriation, when the US can't even control it's own borders ! All this talk about guest workers is pointless if you can't control who's coming & going. What about the Broken borders & enforcement ? How about fixing them first ? Don't the people in Washington get it yet ? What's it going to take another 9/11 to wake them up ? "

Joe wrote on April 10, 2006 1:04 pm:
" Why do I see Mexican flags in this picture? I thought it was Lincoln, Nebraska, United States. "

Gerard Harbison wrote on April 10, 2006 1:09 pm:
" General John Pershing, who repelled the last invasion of the continental US from south of the border in 1915, must be turning over in his grave to see this march a few blocks from his old office at UNL. Incidentally, it seems that the instruction not to fly the flags of foreign countries wasn't heeded. "

Jessi wrote on April 10, 2006 1:11 pm:
" Can't wait to have all those illegals in line for welfare once they receive amnesty. This is a farce! "

David wrote on April 10, 2006 1:20 pm:
" We have a translation problem.. I think Si se puede means something more like "yes you can" in a formal sort of way.. wouldn't "yes we can" be Si podemos? And Lori.. it might be illegal, but not criminal. This is one reason why they are marching! Currently it is illegal civilly, not criminally. "

Pam wrote on April 10, 2006 1:20 pm:
" To bad immigration isn't around with handcuffs at all these rallies!! If you're illegal the only right you have in America is a free pass back to your own country! Come here legally great, have a fantastic life,but if you come here illegally get out!! You break a law to get here but then claim you are a law abiding person? Come here legally, and learn English and the laws of this country!! "

Brent Wickard wrote on April 10, 2006 1:40 pm:
" All the illegal immigrants should be deported. It would reward them to allow them to stay for any reason and encourage other illegal immigrants to do the same. Proponent for illegal immigration Carmela Sanchez do Jiminenz says that their voices are loud and message is strong, but the only thing she is saying is that committing a crime is okay. Why don't we just pardon all the murderers, rapists, child molesters, embezellers, and burglars while we are at it. I am sorry but those people are all stupid. "

Liz wrote on April 10, 2006 1:59 pm:
" I applaud the organizers of this rally and all attendees. What a beautiful day for a beautiful message! These people are not stupid--they are hard-working fighters who deserve a chance. I will do everything I can to lobby Washington to move on this issue and to offer comprehensive immigration reform for all those who certainly deserve it. "

CSanchez wrote on April 10, 2006 2:02 pm:
" Unfortunately, many people have failed to fully study the issues surrounding immigration -- both contemporary policy and the historical background. It is notable that some politicians, faced with charges of political corruption, a slowing US economy, and the intractable war in Iraq (and Afghanistan), are raising the specter of "border security." The current campaign against Latino immigrants, and by extension all US Latinos, has become political currency at the expense of a minority population. Let us recognize that no one is calling for a wall to be built across the Canadian/US border, even though one terrorist attempted to cross into the US from Canada in 2000. Further, none of the 911 bombers entered into the US illegally from Mexico. Anti-Latino rhetoric has the purpose and effect of rallying US citizens against a vulnerable population that contributes to the economic well being of all US citizens. Reflect on your own lifestyles: do you employ a nanny, a gardener, a home hospice worker to take care of your elders? Do you enjoy cheap agricultural products including beef and poultry? Who cleans your office building while you are at home? Are you prepared to have to pay higher prices for goods and services? Currently, immigration policy in the US has allowed for the creation of a 2 tiered society wherein working class poor people of all racial/ethnic backgrounds have to compete for jobs. Meanwhile, big businesses are able to exploit a continuously renewable pool of cheap labor that cannot rely on the benefits of US or international labor law. Do we need immigration reform? Yes, clearly we do. Is the solution the creation of a guest worker program or expelling all undocumented individuals -- I would argue no. Rather policy makers need to reexamine the nature of our economy, recognize the costs and benefits of immigrant workers, and forge humane policies that are coherent with the middle class lifestyles that so many US citizens want to continue to enjoy. The answer is not to fall into blind xenophobia and racism-- Dr. Carleen D. Sanchez Dept of Anthropology and Geography, Institute for Ethnic Studies University of Nebraska Lincoln "

Carrie wrote on April 10, 2006 2:22 pm:
" Regardless of how anyone feels about the issue at hand, it was a magnificent display of our rights and freedoms (our rights as legal citizens, that is). There are many places in this world where anyone daring to march in such a manner could be killed, along with their families. It made me thankful to be an American, to have true freedom to speak as I choose. I think the march can serve as a great civil lesson to our children, no matter where we stand on the actual issues. "

Ron wrote on April 10, 2006 2:37 pm:
" I don't have a problen with immigrants, it's the illegals that I have a problem with. Get legal, learn the Pledge of Allegience, the Star Spangled Banner, learn the english language at their expense, no 5 year tax break and, I can't remember which amendment is it that says if a woman gives birth in the USA, the family(?) can stay here. And why is it in some places, instructions in Spanish are posted on walls higher than in English? "

Lisa wrote on April 10, 2006 2:52 pm:
" INS is turning a blind eye...this is outrageous. Right now, I'm embarrassed - embarrassed that my country is failing its own people. At what point did breaking the law become OK, at what point did lawbreakers stop listening to citizens and start listening to those who disrespect our country, our laws for their own selfish gains! "

Shannon wrote on April 10, 2006 3:01 pm:
" I witnessed the march this morning, while I was at work. It was ironic how our police officers had to block traffic and be on scene for this march. Ironic because, these are people who have entered our country illegally, against the law and our police force is standing by watching them. Their called "illegal immigrants" for a reason. You want our respect, then do things right. There is a process to follow to make you legal citizens. Do as our ancestors did. Don't expect something for nothing. Learn what it's like to pay taxes then we'll talk about your rights. "

Zoe wrote on April 10, 2006 3:03 pm:
" I think we pay enough for our own health insurance and taxes. We don't need to pay for those people who pay no taxes. "

David wrote on April 10, 2006 3:09 pm:
" Once again, it is not a crime being here illegally. It is not intelligent to equate living and working in the United States to murder, rape, and child molestation. "Those people" as you so nicely put it are not stupid. However, it is easy to hate and label if you do not know anyone in the aforementioned "those people" label. "

jon wrote on April 10, 2006 3:13 pm:
" I can tell that few posters have actually been outside the sheltered life of their hometown of Lincoln.Thats is a shame.If you had a clue of how these people impact your very lives every day you'd think and probably would be speachless. But I see some would rather open their mouths and show their ignorance. "

R.G wrote on April 10, 2006 3:15 pm:
" Sometimes people born in the United Stated don't see and understand why we are here. Some of us are here because our parents brought us, not because we wanted to come here. I belive I'm an American, most of my life I have been here even though I was not born here. I'm now 22 years old and to show how greatful I am to be here I join the military and I am doing what many US born citizens are not doing, I am fighting for freedom, for United States freedom. I am willing to die for this coutry. Some people don't understand that we also try to help not to take away. And by the way Alex I joined because of what happened on 9/11 and I am doing something that you are probably are not. "

Susana and Jill wrote on April 10, 2006 3:20 pm:
" This nation was founded by immigrants and immigrants are still a vital part of our community. Legal or illegal they pay taxes and social security. Our society is enriched by their culture and by joining together and improving their lives all the community benefits. Today,a small piece of dignity was restored in human kind. "

Phil wrote on April 10, 2006 4:36 pm:
" Who will build our wall? Certainly NOT illegal workers. Get on the other side of the border, and we will build our own wall. Why are these people not Protesting in their own country, to force their OWN GOVERNMENTS to improve their standard of living, in THERE OWN COUNTRIES? This has really gotten out of whack! This is the epitome of the oblivious line-butters. They are line-butter-iners, and they are protesting for the right to butt in line without repercussions. "

Lisa wrote on April 10, 2006 4:36 pm:
" Legal immigrants should be respected - they have earned it. Immigrants who seek citizenship legally - by joining the military - respect - they are earning it. Our society is enriched by those immigrants. But those who do not wish to assimulate or become citizens of this nation, who send their $ back to Mexico, who take advantage of our emergency rooms and then DEMAND to be serviced....those are people who do not deserve any respect, any services...only shame. What is truly a shame is that there are thousands of immigrants waiting their turn to become citizens while those illegals who break the law to enter this country, are trying to be bumped to the head of the line! "

T.D. wrote on April 10, 2006 4:42 pm:
" Our nation was founded on "give us your tired, your poor, your hungry," in which I completely agree, but do it LEGALLY! Don't sneak in, lie to my face, expect me to pay for your privaleges, and then whine when you don't get even MORE! I do not go to other countries lie about my name, demand free health care and free food, for teachers to teach my children in my native language, as well as demand bilingual teachers, nurses, doctors, law enforcement, and all forms and bulletins provided to me in English. This would never happen in Mexico or any other country. Why do we allow this in America? We are naive. "

John near Lincoln wrote on April 10, 2006 4:42 pm:
" So we throw out the race card and we're all supposed to stay silent about illegal immigration. This is not about race - it is about what is right and what is wrong. What is legal and what is not. If you came here illegally from Ireland, Africa, Mexico, Russia - it doesn't matter. You are here illegally, pink - blue - purple - yellow - white skin! There is a process. Get it line or do like R.G. and make it right! Bless you R.G.! "

Bret wrote on April 10, 2006 4:55 pm:
" Makes me sick. How dare they! They are nothing more then commong criminals and should be treated that way. If they want to come live here they can come through the front door. If they want to live and work then get to the INS office today and sign up - pay the tax, pay your own medical bills, get a real valid d/l and get your car insurance. Quit making me foot the bill. You want that then do it the right way. Until then your nothing more then a criminal! "

Kristin wrote on April 10, 2006 4:58 pm:
" I can appreciate the feelings of the people coming to the United States when they say, "We just want to work...we just want a better life...we want education for our children...etc." The people born here and that immigrate here legally say the same things. They 'want' things, too. The inherent problem is that there are too many people competing for a finite amount of resources. When you have that situation, with so many people 'wanting' things, it opens the door for exploitation by businesses and others who provide these resources. They should be punished, and severely, for being allowed to take advantage of the situation - not be allowed to spin the truth about how "Americans shun these jobs, we need the workers." Time and again it has been shown that no one can actually live on the minimum wage jobs with no benefits that these companies want to hire people to do. New legislation is not needed. If we enforce the laws we have, punish the businesses for exploiting the situation, require businesses to pay a living wage and provide benefits to those they hire, the situation would remedy itself. Unfortunately, we Americans as citizens have stood complacently by as those we elect have and continue to make decisions that are not in the best interests of the majority. We can blame ourselves for this mess, for not holding the people we elect accountable and to continue to blame the poor for their situation. Unless we are willing to take action, we are going to continue to watch flags of other countries being waved in America by people chanting in foreign languages demanding the rights of Americans. "

Sylvia wrote on April 10, 2006 5:06 pm:
" I don't see what the problem is with all of these Nebraskans with European names. Nebraska LOVES Christians. Most of these people are Catholic? Right? It means more people to take a stand for all those aborted fetuses. Less Latinos get divorced, less Latinos are gay, the essence of "Nebraska Family Values". What would Jesus do? Indeed! He'd be glad to eat ham with all of us on Easter. We could all celebrate together the fact that if he'd come back to earth, he'd be an illegal immigrant, and we'd just execute him again anyway. "

J.B. wrote on April 10, 2006 5:13 pm:
" I wonder what the Native Americans think when people say things are ignorant as "send them back" and "go back to your country" "

Wm wrote on April 10, 2006 5:13 pm:
" Glad to see racism is alive and well in Nebraska. Just read some of these posts. I was proud to be an american today while being at the rally. Proud of the diversity. "

Steve wrote on April 10, 2006 5:46 pm:
" I really see little "racism", Wm. It appears that the majority of the posters (like me) believe it's fine if it's done legally. Fly the American flag, not another country's, learn the language, pay the taxes like everyone else. You're more than welcome to treasure your own heritage, but become an American, not a German/Mexican/African/Polish-American. "

Examine yourself wrote on April 10, 2006 5:47 pm:
" When I read the hateful comments below, I am ashamed to be an American. I wonder how many of you sit in church on Sunday and then spew this hateful venom on Monday. Check out J.B.'s comment. Unless you are part of the 1% of the population who is Native American, you are living on stolen land anyway. "

jw wrote on April 10, 2006 5:51 pm:
" I live in Dallas and witnessd the rallies here. Before the rallies Latinos were asking people to carry the American Flag instead of their home country. As far as I am concerned previous rallies showed their true colors in the fact they were carrying their home flags of Mexico, Honduras, Guatamala, etc. Please, this is not about becoming citizens, they are worried they will be deported, and not be able to send tax free dollars back to their home country. Furthermore, Parkland Hospital here in Dallas is the busiest hosital when it come to newborn births - why? Because Parkland being a hospital that accepts non-insured patients takes in all the illigal immigrants in which they have their babies and now their son or daughter is now an American Citizen. See where this is going? We have one of the higest drop-out rates int he nation, because their is not an emphasis on education with illegal immigrants here. They are concerned about making enough money ot send home, so their fmilies can either afford to live or pay someone to smuggle them across the boarder. When is this insanity going to end. "

J.B. wrote on April 10, 2006 6:44 pm:
" along with the "send them back" attitude....if I'm not mistaken didn't the southern part of this country once belong to Mexico, so many are already home. "

terry wrote on April 10, 2006 8:03 pm:
" Why not protest enforcing the laws they are already breaking they have nothing to lose. Passing new laws will not change anything they didn't follow the ones we already have. The laws we pass are only as good as we enforce them. Try sneeking into some of these countrys and see what happens. If there laws apply to us then why don't ours apply to them? "

Lorie wrote on April 10, 2006 8:46 pm:
" This is just another case of put legal Americans in jail and fine them but let the illegals' do any crime they please. Since laws are not obeyed I guess this country will save its citizens alot of money by closing the U S Govt and States offices and throw away the laws. America is paying the price for throwing God out of schools and silenceing the name of God in our state government and elsewhere. These people remind me of some other "folk" that want the good life served on a platter while the Americans worked their knuckles to the bone and obeyed the laws to make America a good place to live. These people are welcome if they obey the laws and enter as the laws are written. If I run a red light I dam well know I've broken a law and try to do better. Not obeying the laws makes any one a criminal, legal or illegal. Period. "

Native American wrote on April 11, 2006 12:49 am:
" J.B. I am Native American and I can tell you from one whose family has ALWAYS lived in this country...Come here LEGALLY...learn the language, assumulate into this country, don't lose your own culture, but don't shove it down my throat, fly the AMERICAN FLAG, and as for thinking that the U.S. Government commissioned the words "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses"...try to remember that was a gift of the French, not something that WE wanted. "

Don wrote on April 11, 2006 6:00 am:
" Illegal immigrants want to come here badly enough to endure all sorts of dangers and hardships and the first thing they do is tell America to stuff itself. That whole demonstration was to support violating the laws of the US. Legals are welcome. "

Tom wrote on April 11, 2006 8:06 am:
" Why hasn't anyone mentioned Farmland Foods in Crete? Says right in the article that this illegal immigrant works at Farmland Foods. Why is the INS not there fining Farmland Foods and sending these illegal back where they came from? We don’t need new laws; just enforce the ones we have. So INS where are you? You get a paycheck from my taxes, why don’t you earn it? "

THEY PAY TAXES! wrote on April 11, 2006 8:40 am:
" To the vast number of misinformed people: Do you really think illegal workers don't pay taxes? Truth is, most of them pay taxes, get a paycheck, and then support check-cashing businesses to cash that paycheck. Quit complaining about this "tax free dollars" nonsense. It is inaccurate. Do you really think large meatpacking plants all pay their workers under the table? "

Gary wrote on April 11, 2006 8:57 am:
" J.B., you're right, we're all immigrants of some sort, we should give this land back, you can be the first to go. Comments like yours are non-sense. I feel for the Native Americans because their country was stolen from them, but you and people like you need to stop blaming the rest of us for something that was done long ago. My great-great grandparents entered this country in the mid to late 1800's. They were Germans from Russia and came to this country LEGALLY. They made sure my great-grandmother grew up speaking English, but also taught her German to help keep her heritage. That's fine, keep your old ways, but learn our ways as well. It matters not if if immigrants have to jump through more hoops today than they used to, this country is filling up, so a few more hoops are necessary to keep this country from over-populating itself. Pulling the race card or calling people hateful is unproductive and immature, it is not hatred of immigrants, not hatred of Hispanics...it's not hatred at all. It's respect for our law and anger, not hatred, over the fact that a group of people consistently chooses to break our laws. "

Ericka wrote on April 11, 2006 9:03 am:
" Every immigrant group (including the Irish, Italians, Jewish, Africans, etc..) has had to fight for thier right to be in this country. They were all brought here for cheap labor and then when they began to do better than the ones who brought them here, they were oppressed and beaten down by those who felt threatened. All had to fight to gain the rights they deserved. Apparently the Latino fight is not yet over. As a Native American, I applaud the Latinos for thier courage to stand up in a state as closed minded as Nebraska. As a Native American I do find it extremely ignorant for people to be saying things such as "send them back". (See JB's Comment) Something needs to be done, but persecuting this group of people is not it, sad to see that it comes down to such childish comments. (See Brent Wickard's comment) "

marcel killsenemy wrote on April 11, 2006 10:55 am:
" I love it when people always refer to what their ancestors did come here legally, not expect something for nothing. Last time I checked they never had paper work for illegal immigrants from Europe, they showed up on a boat got their information taken down and was awarded citizenship. And no they didn’t expect anything for nothing; they stole, cheated, lied and took whatever they wanted. This was the country of many great nations that were cheated, raped and part of the greatest holocaust this world has ever known at the hands of the people that so many of you are so proud to call your ancestors. So what ever happened to learning the native language and culture? Isn’t that the true language and culture of the true Americans? yes im an illegal immigrant in a country that was stolen my my people. i wish that the poeple of nebraska would respect the rights and laws of the treaties that your ancestors had signed with my people. give us the lands that you stole and currently are residing on as illegal immigrants from the great Lakota Nation, learn our language and learn our culture. "

Legal Please wrote on April 11, 2006 10:55 am:
" I don't care who comes, as long as they do it legally. If I run a red light, speed, or in other ways break the law, I am responsible. Breaking the law has consequences. These need to be enforced. If you want to come here, do it the right way. Why does that make me racist? I have a friend working in China. This person married a Chinese citizen, they can't even come visit, because they are trying to get a legal visa. There is a 2 yr wait. I jokingly told them to fly Mexico and come across the border they would probably get here sooner. "

F.S. wrote on April 11, 2006 11:35 am:
" In think that none of this people posting comments like those have any culture or education. First of all I'm a proud Hispanic, I was brought to this country at the age of seven with out knowing where I was going. and I think many of us did not choose to be here, but now here an like I lived here all my life I think we deserve the same rights as Americans. My family came to the US in 1994 and applied for our legal resident paper and we just received them December 15,2005. The Goverment put many restrictions so many immigrants will never be able to recive their paper for this fact. We are not here to take anybody job because we take the jobs many American dont want to work on it. Also americans donot know what's the life in our countries so please dont make any comments if you haven't experience any of these. A junior at G.P.College "

Karen wrote on April 11, 2006 11:37 am:
" I really don't think having immigrants here is a problem. The problem is the illegal part. If they come here the legal way then they are welcomed. It is the ones who come here illegally and some of them do crime that is the problem. We are a nation with a mixture that makes us great. Please come here legally,learn the language, and be a productive part of our nation. "

Jay wrote on April 11, 2006 1:14 pm:
" I think the real issue with the immigrants is that our system is slow. Some immigrants may really be trying to become legal citizens but due to long processes within the system those trying to become legal have to pay the consequences as if they weren't trying at all until the process is over and they have all documentation. This law is a good idea, but the kinks were never worked out. "

Gary wrote on April 11, 2006 1:16 pm:
" I wish people, regardless of their nationality, would quit bringing up the whole, "Immigrants do jobs most Americans won't do!" argument. A lot of the reason Americans won't do those jobs is that they cannot receive a fair wage due to the fact that illegal immigrants are coming in and driving the pay of those jobs down because they're willing to do those jobs for very low pay. Illegal immigrants do take jobs away, because once they've basically lowered the bar for a given job's pay, employers will lay-off the "overpaid" legal citizens and hire the illegal citizens at a much lower pay rate. Do I feel sorry for those living in sub-standard conditions around the world? Yes, fate placed them in an unfavorable geographic location, it's not their fault, and if they want to improve their situation LEGALLY, that's fine. However, I do not feel the U.S. should play the role as the world-wide lifeboat...because eventually our little lifeboat will sink under the pressure of too many people...then we'll ALL be looking for a new place to go. "

Hank wrote on April 11, 2006 1:40 pm:
" When I read many of the comments here, I am both ashamed and alarmed by the inflexible attitudes of people. The 10-12 undocumented immigrants are here, and they are not going away. We can either make sure we intergrate these hard-working and decent people into our dynamic society, or we can become a stagnat, intolerant society. Yes, our culture changes when immigrants arrive, but that has always been the case. After marching with the 4,000 plus yesterday, I am convinced that our society will continue to grow and improve with new immigrants. The tolerance and approciation for our American way of life shown by yesterday's marchers will go a long way to offset the intolerance and bigotry displayed in many of the remarks posted here. "

Dr. Edwrd Zuber wrote on April 11, 2006 5:16 pm:
" America wants security and thousands of illegal immigrants believe they have the right to enter America, use our schools, health facilities, public uftilities and job opportunities just because they are illegals. Too bad, but I believe they should be given the same rights as they had under the constitution of the country they left, if they were illegal there. The Mexicans need to read the constitution of Mexico if they want the rights of immigrants, so be it, the Mexican Constitutional rights. People that hire illegals should bear the burden. "